Backup/Restore for suspected corrupt account
Hello TBUDLers, Not so long ago (as I remember it) there was a discussion about recovering a corrupted mail account by means of renames and restores but I cannot, for the life of me, locate it in the archives. I have an account (my oldest one) which had been playing up on compresses and the like so not so long ago I 'fixed' it. At which point about 3/4 of the mail in it disappeared! I still have old backups around that pre-date that occurrence so would like to attempt to reconstruct the account from that, plus the stuff that remains from (and of course that which is newer than) the disaster. I'm still not convinced the account is in perfect order, so a create from scratch would be ideal. I've just done a full backup of the account as it stands tonight. Can someone either point me to the right spot in the archives or suggest the best sequence of steps? BTW, am using 2.1 and the old backup will be an earlier version (I don't know which, but suspect 2.0 or better). -- Cheers, Allister Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fwd: Bayesit 0.5.3 released.
Dear Marten, MG OK - so I download that (three times) and it won't unzip. Did the same an hour ago, no problem. It's a rar archive. Don't know what you're using. In my case Total Commander did the job. Unless you're really experiencing some type of data corruption when downloading, you might want to try WinRAR (http://www.rarlab.com/) - they have a trial version that might do the job. -- Regards Johnny Skaaning _ Using The Bat! 2.10.01 on Windows XP Service Pack 1 and BayesIt! 0.5.3 Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Fwd: Bayesit 0.5.3 released.
On Tuesday, April 20, 2004 at 9:59:18 AM, you wrote: Dear Marten, MG OK - so I download that (three times) and it won't unzip. Did the same an hour ago, no problem. It's a rar archive. Don't know what you're using. In my case Total Commander did the job. Unless you're really experiencing some type of data corruption when downloading, you might want to try WinRAR (http://www.rarlab.com/) - they have a trial version that might do the job. OK - but why I hasve to download a megabyte file and install it to unzip a 140k file beats me!! Crazy! Anyway - how does the BIT v5 know what's junk and what isn't? It doesn't have the training routine anymore? Is it all done by 'highlight messages' and 'mark as junk' or 'mark as NOT junk'. ?? moan Oh for some understanding that there are people out here who just want to use things and get on with work - rather than spend a morning faffing about !!! /moan Marten Gallagher -- Annery Kiln Web Design Delivering Information Effectively www.annerykiln.co.uk Web Design and Site Management Web Hosting and Print Design This e-mail is intended solely for the addressee and is strictly confidential. If you are not the addressee, please do not read, print, re-transmit, store or act in reliance on it or any attachments. Instead please e-mail it back to the sender and delete the message from your computer. The system used to send this message is permanently checking for viruses and malicious scripts. However, email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error free and annerykiln.co.uk accepts no liability for changes made to this e-mail (and any attachments) after it was sent or for viruses arising as a result of this e-mail transmission. Any unauthorised reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication of this e-mail message is strictly prohibited. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fwd: Bayesit 0.5.3 released.
Hi Marten, on Tue, 20 Apr 2004 11:29:23 +0100GMT, you wrote: MG OK - but why I hasve to download a megabyte file and install it to MG unzip a 140k file beats me!! Crazy! What did you download? The bayesit052.rar I have is only ~130kB... I'll have to check out the new one. -- Cheers Peter Nobody can hurt me without my permission. Mohandas Gandhi Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: All Email maked as Junk...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 MR I have now trained the plug-in and it (for now) seems to be MR cooperating better. Here's what I did: MR - Went to each folder (Received messages( and marked all the messages MR as NOT Junk. MR - Closed out the program MR - Opened it back up. MR I don't know if all that is required. Hopefully this will help someone MR else having this problem. That appears to have worked for me. Thanks for that. - -- Stuart Using The Bat! v2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Aided by BayesIt! 0.5 PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com Give me ambiguity or give me something else. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 Comment: Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com; iQA/AwUBQITCQNttnLhkydF1EQJkEwCgon4o8BfUYhsXq0bthxcYbpOSyy4AoNYB /ko4f9ItTQJTOO7tTBfFslJu =dd3t -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Fwd: Bayesit 0.5.3 released.
Hello all, Tuesday, April 20, 2004, Marten Gallagher wrote: OK - but why I hasve to download a megabyte file and install it to unzip a 140k file beats me!! Crazy! UnRAR has 138kB only :-) Anyway - how does the BIT v5 know what's junk and what isn't? It doesn't have the training routine anymore? Is it all done by 'highlight messages' and 'mark as junk' or 'mark as NOT junk'. yes, here is an athor's description: RIT asked to exclude internal learning mechanizm - because it can't hold The Bat! folders correctly anyway (because .tbb is not oficially documented and may be changed at any time, also because it can't hold SecureBat's bases). Stefan suppose to use mass mark as... action for training - and now it is the only way to train the filter (however, you can just ignore any training and only mark incoming spam as spam - the rest will be assumed as non-spam and will be trained automatically. I found that even without any training filter begins to work fine in about 2-3 days after installation (when receiving about 100 letters per day)). -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 2.10.01 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 AMD ThunderBird 1,2 GHz, 512 MB RAM Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Strange preview pane behavior
Hi all, Upgraded to 2.10 the other day and have noticed some different behaviour while scrolling through long messages in the preview pane. I can move the mouse over the folders pane, message list pane or preview pane without the necessity of physically selecting any of the panes. The focus for scrolling works perfectly. There's no need to select the window by clicking it, selecting a message or a folder prior to scrolling. That's the same as the previous version. Here is where the behaviour has changed. In all other versions (at least the ones I've had), I could scroll through a long message without having it physically selected (i.e. clicking inside of it first). If I came across a link I wanted to open or some text I wanted to select, I just pointed and clicked. Worked great. That doesn't work anymore. I can still scroll without physically selecting the message. But if I attempt to click a link or select some text, the message in that window moves back up to the beginning of the message and text is selected from the point where I tried to click in the message back up to the bottom line that's now displayed in the preview pane. For example, if 10 lines display at a time in the preview pane and I scroll down a few screens and then try to click on a link that is on line 40, the message scrolls itself back up so the first 10 lines are displayed again and the lines from 10 to 40 are selected. If I physically select the preview pane by clicking inside of it prior to scrolling, I can then select text or click a link as normal. Is anyone else experiencing this? Am I missing some setting somewhere that changed when I upgraded? -- Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange preview pane behavior
At 7:17 AM on 4/20/2004, Terry typed ... T That doesn't work anymore. I can still scroll without physically T selecting the message. But if I attempt to click a link or select some T text, the message in that window moves back up to the beginning of the snip T Is anyone else experiencing this? Am I missing some setting somewhere T that changed when I upgraded? I'm not seeing that behavior, but I'm seeing something that's probably related. When I select a message, scroll down (either in the preview pain or with the message open in its own windows), switch to another program, and then return to TB, the message is back at the beginning. This is particularly annoying when I'm updating a website (15-20 changes) based on information in a long message. The solution is to copy the message and paste it in to UltraEdit, but this is an needless extra step. -- Bill Blinn - Technology Editor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - 4/20/2004 at 7:21 AM Technology Editor, Newsradio 610 WTVN, Columbus, Ohio Using The Bat! v2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Random thought: Cats: Great for earmuffs, tiny throw rugs, and slippers. This line was left blank intentionally, but now these words are in it. Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange preview pane behavior
Hi Terry, [Selecting text / clicking links in the preview pane when it hasn't been selected previously] T Is anyone else experiencing this? Am I missing some setting somewhere T that changed when I upgraded? I can't help you. But I can say that I can't confirm your observation. To make sure I understood you right: Without selecting the preview pane I scrolled a long message down to previously hidden lines (with the mouse scroll wheel). I then attempted to select a couple of lines of text. I also tried clicking a link down there and repeated this experiment on several long messages that were too long to display in their entirity in the preview pane. The result is not what you describe, but rather what you'd expect: the text gets selected / link followed without any movement of the cursor position in the preview pane. -- Regards Johnny Skaaning _ Using The Bat! 2.10.01 on Windows XP Service Pack 1 and BayesIt! 0.5.3 Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange preview pane behavior
Hi Bill, BBTE I'm not seeing that behavior, but I'm seeing something that's probably BBTE related. When I select a message, scroll down (either in the preview BBTE pain or with the message open in its own windows), switch to BBTE another program, and then return to TB, the message is back at the BBTE beginning. I am sorry for not being more helpful here, but for what it's worth: I can't reproduce that behaviour either. What about the software you use to control mouse / keyboard ? [ie. the driver]. Or what about the software for your graphics card ? I've noticed that the Nvidia drivers have some options that assert some control over windows .. that's what I use. Didn't cause problems though. Just guessing. -- Regards Johnny Skaaning _ Using The Bat! 2.10.01 on Windows XP Service Pack 1 and BayesIt! 0.5.3 Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Strange preview pane behavior
At 7:43 AM on 4/20/2004, Johnny Skåning typed ... J I am sorry for not being more helpful here, but for what it's worth: I J can't reproduce that behaviour either. What about the software you use J to control mouse / keyboard ? [ie. the driver]. Or what about the J software for your graphics card ? I've noticed that the Nvidia drivers J have some options that assert some control over windows .. that's what J I use. Didn't cause problems though. Just guessing. That's possible. RITLabs made some changes to the way it interprets codes from the Logitech MX500 to correct another problem a few weeks ago. There may still be some lingering incompatibility. Nothing has changed here (either video or mouse driver) since 2.10 was released. -- Bill Blinn - Technology Editor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - 4/20/2004 at 7:53 AM Technology Editor, Newsradio 610 WTVN, Columbus, Ohio Using The Bat! v2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Random thought: The weather is here, wish you were beautiful. This line was left blank intentionally, but now these words are in it. Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange preview pane behavior
Hello Terry, Tuesday, April 20, 2004, 7:17:00 AM, you wrote: T I can still scroll without physically T selecting the message. But if I attempt to click a link or select some T text, the message in that window moves back up to the beginning of the T message snip T Is anyone else experiencing this? Am I missing some setting somewhere T that changed when I upgraded? Yes! I thought somehow a template was messed up, but had no time to look at it. I'm using a Logitech trackball on a Toshiba Satellite laptop if that helps. -- Regards, Maggie mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Strange preview pane behavior
Terry, Tuesday, April 20, 2004, 7:17:00 AM, you wrote: T Hi all, T Upgraded to 2.10 the other day and have noticed some different T behaviour while scrolling through long messages in the preview pane. T I can move the mouse over the folders pane, message list pane or T preview pane without the necessity of physically selecting any of the T panes. The focus for scrolling works perfectly. There's no need to T select the window by clicking it, selecting a message or a folder T prior to scrolling. T That's the same as the previous version. Here is where the behaviour T has changed. T In all other versions (at least the ones I've had), I could scroll T through a long message without having it physically selected (i.e. T clicking inside of it first). If I came across a link I wanted to open T or some text I wanted to select, I just pointed and clicked. Worked T great. T That doesn't work anymore. I can still scroll without physically T selecting the message. But if I attempt to click a link or select some T text, the message in that window moves back up to the beginning of the T message and text is selected from the point where I tried to click in T the message back up to the bottom line that's now displayed in the T preview pane. For example, if 10 lines display at a time in the T preview pane and I scroll down a few screens and then try to click on T a link that is on line 40, the message scrolls itself back up so the T first 10 lines are displayed again and the lines from 10 to 40 are T selected. T If I physically select the preview pane by clicking inside of it prior T to scrolling, I can then select text or click a link as normal. T Is anyone else experiencing this? Am I missing some setting somewhere T that changed when I upgraded? Confirmed here as well. The previous behavior was great. Hopefully the developers will fix this so we are all happy again g. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.10.01 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange preview pane behavior
Hi On 20 April 2004 at 12:17 Terry said: Upgraded to 2.10 the other day and have noticed some different behaviour while scrolling through long messages in the preview pane. snip if I attempt to click a link or select some text, the message in that window moves back up to the beginning of the message and text is selected from the point where I tried to click in the message back up to the bottom line that's now displayed in the preview pane. I'm having the same problem (I also have an MX500) I have found that it only occurs the first time that I click within the preview pane. After that everything works as it should. When I change to a different message in the same folder (or a different one) the problem happens again the first time I click somewhere in the preview. -- Adam C Using The Bat! v2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
BayesIt is having a laugh...
Hi I've re0installed BayesIt 503 and it is immediately sending all TBUDL mail to the Junk folder. Is someone laughing somewhere there at the back. Help - I am now spending the afternoon retrieving weanted mail from the Junk folder - until TB 2.10.1 and BIT 5 everything went swimmingly, Junk was never wrong. Now it's worse than useless. Help help - I'm trying to earn a living here - not faff around with obscure rar files and with programmes that seem to make wild asumptions without me being able to control it - if I wanted that I'd use Outlook Express Marten Gallagher -- Annery Kiln Web Design Delivering Information Effectively www.annerykiln.co.uk Web Design and Site Management Web Hosting and Print Design This e-mail is intended solely for the addressee and is strictly confidential. If you are not the addressee, please do not read, print, re-transmit, store or act in reliance on it or any attachments. Instead please e-mail it back to the sender and delete the message from your computer. The system used to send this message is permanently checking for viruses and malicious scripts. However, email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error free and annerykiln.co.uk accepts no liability for changes made to this e-mail (and any attachments) after it was sent or for viruses arising as a result of this e-mail transmission. Any unauthorised reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication of this e-mail message is strictly prohibited. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
BayesIt is having a laugh...
Hi I've re0installed BayesIt 503 and it is immediately sending all TBUDL mail to the Junk folder. Is someone laughing somewhere there at the back. Help - I am now spending the afternoon retrieving weanted mail from the Junk folder - until TB 2.10.1 and BIT 5 everything went swimmingly, Junk was never wrong. Now it's worse than useless. Help help - I'm trying to earn a living here - not faff around with obscure rar files and with programmes that seem to make wild asumptions without me being able to control it - if I wanted that I'd use Outlook Express Marten Gallagher -- Annery Kiln Web Design Delivering Information Effectively www.annerykiln.co.uk Web Design and Site Management Web Hosting and Print Design This e-mail is intended solely for the addressee and is strictly confidential. If you are not the addressee, please do not read, print, re-transmit, store or act in reliance on it or any attachments. Instead please e-mail it back to the sender and delete the message from your computer. The system used to send this message is permanently checking for viruses and malicious scripts. However, email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error free and annerykiln.co.uk accepts no liability for changes made to this e-mail (and any attachments) after it was sent or for viruses arising as a result of this e-mail transmission. Any unauthorised reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication of this e-mail message is strictly prohibited. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayesIt is having a laugh...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 MG Help - I am now spending the afternoon retrieving weanted mail from MG the Junk folder - until TB 2.10.1 and BIT 5 everything went MG swimmingly, Junk was never wrong. Now it's worse than useless. Did you try Michael Rudnick's suggestion ... ,- [ ] | I have now trained the plug-in and it (for now) seems to be | cooperating better. Here's what I did: - Went to each folder (Received | messages( and marked all the messages as NOT Junk. - Closed out the | program - Opened it back up. `- This worked for me. Make sure you stop and restart TB! after doing the 'training'. - -- Stuart Using The Bat! v2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Aided by BayesIt! 0.5.3 PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com The most important thing in the programming language is the name. A language will not succeed without a good name. I have recently invented a very good name and now I am looking for a suitable language. (DE Knuth) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 Comment: Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com; iQA/AwUBQIUf3dttnLhkydF1EQICGwCgqy75bPUnkBBO0MFiYMRBuX7E9S8AnjPG hy4NvnRewKaRKcmiSWWzaQpi =/JIq -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Bayesit 0.5.2 Rules grey How to train?
Hello Marek, Monday, April 19, 2004, 5:24:55 PM, you wrote: MM via options Mark as Junk and Mark as not Junk in Specials menu. Since we have to use this now for all the training ... is there a way to make these two functions more accessible ... like by assigning a key to each? -- Best regards, MikeDmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000 Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: BayesIt is having a laugh...
On Tuesday, April 20, 2004 at 2:04:11 PM, you wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 MG Help - I am now spending the afternoon retrieving weanted mail from MG the Junk folder - until TB 2.10.1 and BIT 5 everything went MG swimmingly, Junk was never wrong. Now it's worse than useless. Did you try Michael Rudnick's suggestion ... ,- [ ] | I have now trained the plug-in and it (for now) seems to be | cooperating better. Here's what I did: - Went to each folder (Received | messages( and marked all the messages as NOT Junk. - Closed out the | program - Opened it back up. `- This worked for me. Make sure you stop and restart TB! after doing the 'training'. Yep - twice! Marten Gallagher -- Annery Kiln Web Design Delivering Information Effectively www.annerykiln.co.uk Web Design and Site Management Web Hosting and Print Design This e-mail is intended solely for the addressee and is strictly confidential. If you are not the addressee, please do not read, print, re-transmit, store or act in reliance on it or any attachments. Instead please e-mail it back to the sender and delete the message from your computer. The system used to send this message is permanently checking for viruses and malicious scripts. However, email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error free and annerykiln.co.uk accepts no liability for changes made to this e-mail (and any attachments) after it was sent or for viruses arising as a result of this e-mail transmission. Any unauthorised reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication of this e-mail message is strictly prohibited. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Bayesit 0.5.2 Rules grey How to train?
On Tuesday, April 20, 2004 at 2:13:52 PM, you wrote: Hello Marek, Monday, April 19, 2004, 5:24:55 PM, you wrote: MM via options Mark as Junk and Mark as not Junk in Specials menu. Since we have to use this now for all the training ... is there a way to make these two functions more accessible ... like by assigning a key to each? You can by using the standard keyboard shortcut additions dialogue thingy. Marten Gallagher -- Annery Kiln Web Design Delivering Information Effectively www.annerykiln.co.uk Web Design and Site Management Web Hosting and Print Design This e-mail is intended solely for the addressee and is strictly confidential. If you are not the addressee, please do not read, print, re-transmit, store or act in reliance on it or any attachments. Instead please e-mail it back to the sender and delete the message from your computer. The system used to send this message is permanently checking for viruses and malicious scripts. However, email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error free and annerykiln.co.uk accepts no liability for changes made to this e-mail (and any attachments) after it was sent or for viruses arising as a result of this e-mail transmission. Any unauthorised reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication of this e-mail message is strictly prohibited. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fwd: Bayesit 0.5.3 released.
Peter Meyns [EMAIL PROTECTED] @ 20-Apr-2004 6:40:07 AM Fwd: Bayesit 0.5.3 released. mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OK - but why I hasve to download a megabyte file and install it to unzip a 140k file beats me!! Crazy! What did you download? The bayesit052.rar I have is only ~130kB... I'll have to check out the new one. He's talking about the program to decompress the RAR file, probably WinRAR, not Bayesit. -- Chris - Nun mi Esperanton lernas. Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Spotted in a toilet in a London office block: TOILET OUT OF ORDER. PLEASE USE FLOOR BELOW. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fwd: Bayesit 0.5.3 released.
Marten Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED] @ 20-Apr-2004 6:29:23 AM Fwd: Bayesit 0.5.3 released. mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OK - but why I hasve to download a megabyte file and install it to unzip a 140k file beats me!! Crazy! Not really... How big is you unzip program? WinZip is about 2.3 megabytes; Windows XP (with its built-in ZIP capabilities) is, on average, 1.5 gigabytes. Also, you are technically not un-zipping, but rather un-raring. -- Chris - Nun mi Esperanton lernas. Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Spotted in a toilet in a London office block: TOILET OUT OF ORDER. PLEASE USE FLOOR BELOW. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
VF and marking mail as read
Hello, I created a Virtual Folder whose properties in the Filter Tab are to (a) auto refresh, (b) use fast search and (c) show unread messages. When I select a message in the VF and press Ctrl+M to mark it as read, one or two other messages are also marked as read in the VF. The other irrelevant messages that are marked as read are not the same every time this happens. -- Best regards, Costas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: BayesIt is having a laugh...
Tuesday, April 20, 2004, 6:04:11 PM, you wrote: SH Did you try Michael Rudnick's suggestion ... SH ,- [ ] SH | I have now trained the plug-in and it (for now) seems to be SH | cooperating better. Here's what I did: - Went to each folder (Received SH | messages( and marked all the messages as NOT Junk. - Closed out the SH | program - Opened it back up. SH `- I was having the same problem after upgrading to TB!v2.10 with v.0.5 of BayesIt. I tried fiddling with various settings, all to no avail, and finally went back to v.0.4, which I of course had to retrain. But when 0.5.3 came out I downloaded and installed it today (after deleting v.0.4). I seem to have lucked out. After installing it, I checked the settings under preferences|plugins|anti-spam|information; it showed over 750 letters in the spam frequency dictionary, so it must have transferred that over from the previous version when it installed. It also retained my average score setting (currently 2). The first time I downloaded messages afterwards it caught 9/11 and didn't have a single false positive. I don't know what I may have done differently this time, because I did nothing but unzip it and install it using TB! preference menu. Whatever it may have been, I ain't gonna touch anything, and hope it eventually catches closer to 95% or better. Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Bayesit 0.5.2 Rules grey How to train?
Hello Marten, Tuesday, April 20, 2004, 8:27:21 AM, you wrote: MG On Tuesday, April 20, 2004 at 2:13:52 PM, you wrote: Hello Marek, Monday, April 19, 2004, 5:24:55 PM, you wrote: MM via options Mark as Junk and Mark as not Junk in Specials menu. Since we have to use this now for all the training ... is there a way to make these two functions more accessible ... like by assigning a key to each? MG You can by using the standard keyboard shortcut additions dialogue MG thingy. OK ... the only shortcut thingie I can find is the one in the Options/preferences for Hot Keys. That doesn't seem to be the right one. No help trying to use the Help/Find command either. So where does one look for this dialog thingie? -- Best regards, MikeDmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000 Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[5]: Bayesit 0.5.2 Rules grey How to train?
On Tuesday, April 20, 2004 at 5:01:53 PM, you wrote: OK ... the only shortcut thingie I can find is the one in the Options/preferences for Hot Keys. That doesn't seem to be the right one. No help trying to use the Help/Find command either. So where does one look for this dialog thingie? ViewEdit ShortCut KeysSpecials Why it is under the View Menu I do NOT know but then Marten Gallagher -- Annery Kiln Web Design Delivering Information Effectively www.annerykiln.co.uk Web Design and Site Management Web Hosting and Print Design This e-mail is intended solely for the addressee and is strictly confidential. If you are not the addressee, please do not read, print, re-transmit, store or act in reliance on it or any attachments. Instead please e-mail it back to the sender and delete the message from your computer. The system used to send this message is permanently checking for viruses and malicious scripts. However, email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error free and annerykiln.co.uk accepts no liability for changes made to this e-mail (and any attachments) after it was sent or for viruses arising as a result of this e-mail transmission. Any unauthorised reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication of this e-mail message is strictly prohibited. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[6]: Bayesit 0.5.2 Rules grey How to train?
Hello Marten, Tuesday, April 20, 2004, 11:16:06 AM, you wrote: MG Why it is under the View Menu I do NOT know but then sound of hand smacking forehead Doh! Umm ... thanks. Don't know why I didn't see it there originally. Probably 'cuz I didn't expect to see it there I guess :-/ -- Best regards, MikeDmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000 Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
List of Addresses into AB
This question was answered some time ago, but I can find the answer neither in my own databases nor in the archives. How can one move a list of e-mail addresses into the AB? I have several last names in one column of 1-2-3 spreadsheet, first names in another column, and e-mail addresses in another column. I'd like to make them all individual entries in one contact group. -- JN Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: List of Addresses into AB
Hello Joseph, Tuesday, April 20, 2004, 6:56:53 PM, you wrote: JN This question was answered some time ago, but I can find the answer JN neither in my own databases nor in the archives. JN How can one move a list of e-mail addresses into the AB? I have JN several last names in one column of 1-2-3 spreadsheet, first names in JN another column, and e-mail addresses in another column. I'd like to JN make them all individual entries in one contact group. Look up under the subject line Excel T'was me that started it -- Best regards, Neilmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: List of Addresses into AB
On Tuesday, April 20, 2004 at 6:56:53 PM, you wrote: This question was answered some time ago, but I can find the answer neither in my own databases nor in the archives. How can one move a list of e-mail addresses into the AB? I have several last names in one column of 1-2-3 spreadsheet, first names in another column, and e-mail addresses in another column. I'd like to make them all individual entries in one contact group. OK: 1 Delete all other columns from spreadsheet - retaining first name column, last name column and email address column. 2 Place the columns in this order: first name, last name, email address. 4 Add a column between the first name and the last name columns with the same set of obscure characters in every cell - say 8fvw 5 Export as a CSV file. If you have the option to export with quotes around the cell contents then do so. 6 Open CSV file in a text editor. 7 Add a first line, if the export didn't do so, that says: name,email 8 Find and replace the following: ,8fvw, with a space character - I can't illustrate that here. 9 So now you should have a file that looks like this: name,address John Bloggs,[EMAIL PROTECTED] Another Name,[EMAIL PROTECTED] etc etc. 10 Save this file. 11 Open TB Address Book. 12 Right click on the address collection and create a new folder, give it a name and a handle. Should now have a blank group list. 12a Keep it open and go to FileImportFrom comma-seaprated (plain text) 14 Import it and you get the options as to what to translate the two fields of each record to - name to name and email to email I guess. 15 Hit OK and it should happen. Alternatively send me the exported spreadsheet (CSV preferably) an I'll do all that for you and all you have to do is the import bit! Marten Gallagher -- Annery Kiln Web Design Delivering Information Effectively www.annerykiln.co.uk Web Design and Site Management Web Hosting and Print Design This e-mail is intended solely for the addressee and is strictly confidential. If you are not the addressee, please do not read, print, re-transmit, store or act in reliance on it or any attachments. Instead please e-mail it back to the sender and delete the message from your computer. The system used to send this message is permanently checking for viruses and malicious scripts. However, email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error free and annerykiln.co.uk accepts no liability for changes made to this e-mail (and any attachments) after it was sent or for viruses arising as a result of this e-mail transmission. Any unauthorised reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication of this e-mail message is strictly prohibited. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Strange preview pane behavior
Hello Johnny, Tuesday, April 20, 2004, 6:37:42 AM, you wrote: T Is anyone else experiencing this? Am I missing some setting somewhere T that changed when I upgraded? JS I can't help you. But I can say that I can't confirm your observation. JS To make sure I understood you right: Without selecting the preview JS pane I scrolled a long message down to previously hidden lines (with JS the mouse scroll wheel). I then attempted to select a couple of lines of JS text. I also tried clicking a link down there and repeated this JS experiment on several long messages that were too long to display in JS their entirity in the preview pane. JS The result is not what you describe I am experiencing the same behavior as described, that it flipping to the top of the message. I am using a PP monoitor, on an intel(R)82865G graphics controller, with microsoft driver 5.1.2001.0, and a labtec mouse with microsoft mouse driver 5.1.2600.0 -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.10.01 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Backup script
Hi Bat Users, I remember seeing a .bat file which would make a complete backup of all the TB! mail files plus the registry entries. I can not find it in the archive. Can some one please post it here or mail it to me directly, please. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- I'm hitting the woods just great. But I'm having a terrible time getting out of them. Using The Bat! v2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Strange preview pane behavior
Thanks to everyone who answered. I'm glad it wasn't just me losing my mind. :) I'd be happy to file a bug report *however* the Ritlabs site hates me. I've tried numerous times to log in for several days now and I can't get anywhere. Maybe someone else will have better luck than I am having. -- Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backup script
Hello Gerard! On Tuesday, April 20, 2004, 3:02 PM, you wrote: G I remember seeing a .bat file which would make a complete backup of all the TB! G mail files plus the registry entries. G I can not find it in the archive. Can some one please post it here or mail G it to me directly, please. Are you subscribed to tbot? Marck posted his there recently in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bayesit 0.5.2 Rules grey How to train?
Marten Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED] @ 20-Apr-2004 12:16:06 PM Bayesit 0.5.2 Rules grey How to train? mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] View Edit ShortCut Keys Specials Why it is under the View Menu I do NOT know but then It really should be under the Options menu... When you show menus like that, but two spaces in front of the first word. Otherwise The Bat! interprets it as a quote. -- Chris - Nun mi Esperanton lernas. Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Science is true. Don't be misled by facts. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Sorting sub-folders alphabetically?
I am just introducing my wife to The Bat! - generally successfully... One wish she has is to keep sub-folders in alphabetical order. I know how to reorder them by drag and drop, or by keyboard shortcuts to move them one at a time, but ideally she would like to be able to create a new sub-folder and have it appear magically in the right alphabetical place in the list. Is there a way to do this? -- thanks, Tim Using The Bat! v2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sorting sub-folders alphabetically?
Tim Sharrock [EMAIL PROTECTED] @ 20-Apr-2004 6:15:38 PM Sorting sub-folders alphabetically? mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] One wish she has is to keep sub-folders in alphabetical order. I know how to reorder them by drag and drop, or by keyboard shortcuts to move them one at a time, but ideally she would like to be able to create a new sub-folder and have it appear magically in the right alphabetical place in the list. Is there a way to do this? I don't know if there is a way to do this automatically, but if she were to click on the name column, and then click OK in the dialog box, the folders would be sorted alphabetically. -- Chris - Nun mi Esperanton lernas. Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 The sooner you fall behind, the more time you have to catch up. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sorting sub-folders alphabetically?
Tuesday, April 20, 2004, 11:30:07 PM, Chris wrote: Tim Sharrock ideally she would like to be able to create a new sub-folder and have it appear magically in the right alphabetical place in the list. Is there a way to do this? I don't know if there is a way to do this automatically, but if she were to click on the name column, and then click OK in the dialog box, the folders would be sorted alphabetically. Great - I never thought to try clicking those headers - I did not expect a tree-view like thing to have them! (and this time I will be careful not to lose the ' ' after the sig-separator... Thanks Tim -- Using The Bat! v2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayesIt is having a laugh...
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 13:53:31 +0100, Marten Gallagher wrote: I've re0installed BayesIt 503 and it is immediately sending all TBUDL mail to the Junk folder. Is someone laughing somewhere there at the back. Just 1 simple advice: give SpamPal a try. http://www.spampal.org Arjan -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayesIt is having a laugh...
Hi Arjan, On Wed, 21 Apr 2004, at 01:35:26 [GMT+0200] (which was 9:35:26 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: Just 1 simple advice: give SpamPal a try. http://www.spampal.org and don't forget to turn of Bayesit at the same time. After some training SpamPal catches about 99.99% of all my spam. -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 PCMCIA = People Can't Memorize Computer Industry Acronyms Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Slow connection to 127.0.0.1 - Bug?
Hi Bat! Fans, Ever since 2.10 has been released, my SMTP sending connection to 127.0.0.1 has taken about 30 seconds for the first post; all others seem quicker after that. (I use my own SMTP server called at 127.0.0.1). This problem was not in any other early versions, even going back to the days of 1.5 etc. Is this a bug? Regards, -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a case, Hmmm. Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayesIt is having a laugh...
Hi Ian, On Wed, 21 Apr 2004, at 10:46:59 [GMT+1000] (which was 10:46:59 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: This has happened to another message on this list as well. The Spam Assassin details are X-PacNet-AU-MailScanner-SpamCheck: spam, SpamAssassin (score=5.092, required 4, AWL -0.00, BAYES_00 -4.90, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET 3.50, RCVD_IN_DSBL 1.00, RCVD_IN_NJABL 1.00, RCVD_IN_NJABL_PROXY 0.50, RCVD_IN_SORBS 1.00, RCVD_IN_SORBS_HTTP 1.10, RCVD_IN_SORBS_MISC 0.69, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SOCKS 1.20) X-PacNet-AU-MailScanner-SpamScore: s Just white list in SpamAssassin? Can that be done? -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Windows Error #F99 - CPU too tired to continue... Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayesIt is having a laugh...
Hi Ian, On Wed, 21 Apr 2004, at 10:53:49 [GMT+1000] (which was 10:53:49 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: This is now even stranger. I quoted the text of the message that was flagged as spam, so I would have expected this message to be flagged as spam as well. After all it had the the contents of the previous message yet it came through OK. SpamAssassin bug? We have it running at work (comes with MDaemon) and I find I also have to run SpamPal on my pc (on a network) to get all the spam, but rarely get false hits (Ham?). -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Been there, done that, got the T-shirt. Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Slow connection to 127.0.0.1 - Bug?
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Original message text=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Tuesday, April 20, 2004, 7:43:55 PM, you wrote: Hi Bat! Fans, Ever since 2.10 has been released, my SMTP sending connection to 127.0.0.1 has taken about 30 seconds for the first post; all others seem quicker after that. I use Popfile for spam filtering, and to get to it you go thru 127.0.0.1 and I am running into the same problem. There seems to be a big lag when I 1st open The Bat and then after a while, it seems like email accounts are unavailable after about 20 minutes of having The Bat open... I am still looking at The Bat incase there is a setting I can adjust... -- Scott Windows 2000 The Bat 2.04.7 Popfile Spam Filter http://popfile.sourceforge.net/ Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
V.2.10.00 and V2.10.01
G'day TBUDL Members, Can anyone advise what differences there are between the two versions. 2.10.00 is 3186KB (previously available) while 2.10.01 is 3838KB (now available) but there is no mention on the RITLABs site (that I can find) to explain the difference. -- Bob Mo®®is Wednesday, 21 April 2004 Using The Bat! v2.10 on Windows 98 4.10 Build B Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
