Re: PC-cillin and TB!
Hello P.Johnson, Friday, November 5, 2004, 12:03:59 AM, you wrote: I'm getting a new computer and want to get the best firewall and virus protection I can, and have been looking at Trend Micro PC-cillin Internet Security. Do you have a reason to look at this specific product? As for Antivirus Software - the Kaspersky Labs Antivirus has repeatedly won quite some tests, its the AV solution I'd go for if I already wouldn't use another product (which uses the Kasperky AV engine *g*). AFAIK there's a Kaspersky AV plugin available for TheBat - this has a couple of advantages: you don't need to use a local proxy or POP scanner, you can exclude TB's mail dir from the filesystem realtime protection (and thus won't have the AV program possibly lock out TB from its own database, and it will increase the speed of TB as well). that sort of thing. Firewall - well, the best firewall is air. The air thats between the plug and the socket when you pull the cable of your internet connection. :) OK, joking aside... the personal firewall that runs on the very same machine it should protect is subject to lengthy discussions for a while. However, I do see a benefit from using this kind of software, so here's my two cents: There's two ways to look at a firewall - #1 control whats going *IN* to your computer, and #2 control what wants to go *OUT* from your computer (which programs want to phone home, that sort of thing). #1 is the real security issue, and the built-in firewall of Win XP (SP2) is good enough for that, period. #2 is a privacy issue - and you'll need a separate product for that. There's a couple of freeware personal firewall solutions, and I would use one of them (Tiny Personal Firewall, Sygate, Outpost...). HTH -- Best regards, Alexandermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Total Commander
Hello z5worg, Friday, November 5, 2004, 12:23:31 AM, you wrote: But I still cannot open the System Volume Information folder. Have you open that folder and copied any files from that folder? Do not fiddle around with that folder, please. It contains your system restore points and other stuff. It is not accessible to any user. Please, mate, leave it alone. The fact that you can't access it, either from TC or Win Explorer, is not a fault. If you ever need that folder (I did once, on the machine of one of our customers) you'll be more than happy to find everything in there protected from mangling by all-too-curious end users. -- Best regards, Alexandermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Message attachments incomplete or missing bytes??
Roelof, Hallo Jason, On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 15:47:50 -0800GMT (5-11-2004, 0:47 +0100, where I live), you wrote: JG Hello, I'm new to the group. Welcome. JG I've been using The Bat! 3.0 for a few months and have been JG experiencing problems with file attachments on incoming emails. Though I won't promise that it cures your problem (I'm not into IMAP myself), did you try to upgrade to TB 3.0.1.33 that's the latest release and it had some serious bugfixes on the IMAP part too. I see this too, especially with zip files. If I move the message to another folder, it will download the full attachment and make it available. But in the inbox, it often will not. -- Gleason Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Reply Filtering
All of the Outgoing Mail filters will be the similar, so 1. Inside TheBat!, create and troubleshoot an Outgoing Mail filter for one of the folders. 2. Copy the Outgoing Mail filter and paste and re-paste it into a word processor document once for each of the remaining folders. 3. Systematically use the word processor to Change the names of the pasted filters. Change the folder names in each copied filter. 4. Copy the whole word processor document and paste it into TheBat!'s Outgoing Mail filters. Certainly this is a pain, but certainly it can be done. Perhaps it can be done in the time it takes to complain about having to do it. |grin| So If I have 100+ folders I have to create 100+ filters. This seems to be a rather longwinded approach and will make my outgoing filters really difficult to manage. ALso every time I add a folder I have to add another filter - very cumbersome. If only we could use a variable to define the destination folder I would only need one filter! Thanks for the suggestions. I'm not sure I want to spend the time creating all the filters at the moment :( -- PJ Using TB! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply Filtering
Hello Paul, Friday, November 5, 2004, 11:36:24 AM, you wrote: This seems to be a rather longwinded approach and will make my outgoing filters really difficult to manage. ALso every time I add a folder I have to add another filter - very cumbersome. Why do you want to store the replies with the original mails, Paul? Do you want to track all conversation from/to certain person(s) and/or adress book group(s)? If yes, you can do that with a Virtual Folder (I have a couple of them for exactly that purpose). Its only a matter of how and if you organize your contacts into adress book groups and works like a charm. For example, I track all correspondence with a certain AB group in a single VF with two filter conditions: AB group [xyz] contains sender OR AB group [xyz] contains first recipient If you set the VF to show its content threaded by References, its close-to perfect for tracking conversations. :-) -- Best regards, Alexandermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Total Commander
Thursday, November 04, 2004, MAU [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . The WinXP in Windows Explorer is already set to Show hidden files and folders and Hide protected operating system files is also unchecked. But I still cannot open the System Volume Information folder. Have you open that folder and copied any files from that folder? If not, would you try and let me know? I am simply trying to use TC to make a full backup copy of my C: drive (a new installation of WinXP); so that if I need to reinstall a clean copy of WinXP, I can simply do a copy from this backup and it would be mostly all configured. To be able to open, or view or copy the System Volume Information you would need to change the the access permissions because, as I think I told you in my previous message, it is only accessible to the system. In particular for System Restore. On the other hand, even if you could do so, backing up the System Volume Information would serve you no purpose because if you are going to install XP again, it will create/configure a new System Volume Information for each volume (drive or partition). Thanks for the info. Does that mean that I can have a clean reinstall of WinXP by copying back from the backup copy described above -- without the System Volume Informaiton files? So does the OS create/configure a new System Volume Informaiton ONLY IF I reinstall from the WinXP installation CD? Anyway, if you are curious and what to see what's inside, take a look at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;309531 or http://www.theeldergeek.com/system_volume_information_folder1.htm or search Google for more links. Thanks for the links. -- JM Using The Bat! 1.62r Under Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Disabling local delivery
At some point I set TB to allow local delivery of email. I.e: an email sent to another account in TB would just loop locally rather than go away and come back. I want to set it back but can't find the bit anywhere in the menus. Any ideas anyone? -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 with POPFile 0.22.1 on Windows XP 5.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Disabling local delivery
Hello admin, On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 at 11:42:59 +, (which is 05.11.2004 at 13:42:59 +2000 where I live), you wrote: aacu At some point I set TB to allow local delivery of email. I.e: an email aacu sent to another account in TB would just loop locally rather than go aacu away and come back. aacu I want to set it back but can't find the bit anywhere in the menus. aacu Any ideas anyone? Options | Network Administration Ah - of course - thanks -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 with POPFile 0.22.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Total Commander
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Fri, 5 Nov 2004, @ @ at 09:19:21 +0100, when Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Hello z5worg, Friday, November 5, 2004, 12:23:31 AM, you wrote: But I still cannot open the System Volume Information folder. Have you open that folder and copied any files from that folder? Do not fiddle around with that folder, please. |It contains your system restore points and other stuff. It is not acces|sible to any user. Please, mate, leave it alone. The fact that you| can't access it, either from TC or Win Explorer, is not a fault.| If you ever need that folder (I did once, on the machine of one of ou|r customers) you'll be more than happy to find everything in there pro|tected from mangling by all-too-curious end users. | | \-- Why not? (: It's a way for learning something. We always can make something foolish, but if we are wise, we'll learn something useful from our foolishness. Hiding things cannot help us in any way if we are not able to learn. In first weeks of my dealing with computers, I once deleted entire Windows directory (What's that? It's too big. I need more space.). And it was foolish of course. But, in the same time it was WISE. Why? Because already at THAT time the seed of insight that it is a BLOATED OS has been sprout in my first steps in learning about computers. Later, this seed came to the fruit called Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium, and ever after it was the spring of JOY. We cannot protect people just by protecting them all the time. Sometimes we have to leave them alone, and allow them to do what they want. The most important part is, though, in providing them with enough informations, about what they could expect from what they are doing, and our mission is perfectly accomplished. (-: Such informations are already delivered to z5worg, but I didn't see that anyone told him *how to do what he want*. So, please? (-: Are we gentlemen or what? Do we expect five bucks for information. (-; - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast --- __@ -- _-\,_ --- (_)/ (_) [Earth LOG: 65 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OS: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) 9.1 UMSDOS Linux; and, for TB sometimes Libranet (Linux) 2.8.1, via Cross Over Office -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBi3RX9q62QPd3XuIRAqg9AJ9XOGpm4rtbogPxCqnYGIufwv31EQCfWymG FUVekBGYeXmREmQO8P5J+8s= =6yhi -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PC-cillin and TB!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 4 Nov 2004, @ @ at 17:03:59 -0600, when P.Johnson wrote: Hello, I'm getting a new computer and want to get the best firewall and virus protection I can, and have been looking at Trend Micro PC-cillin Internet Security. I am wondering if any TB! users have tried this suite; and more generally, if there has to be specific compatibility between email programs and virus software. On the Trend site, under System Requirements, email, The Bat! is not listed. I asked whether PC-cillin would scan my TB! mail, and got this reply: We have no answer to this question for now but you may try using your software but please enable the webmail scan feature. If you experience any problems, please do not hesitate to write us. Hope this helps. Hmmm. Yah. You simply could try some AV which is not at all specifically tied/dedicated to e-mail traffic; simply an engine which will treat ALL sorts of activities in the same way, controlling *everything* what happens to your machine - *including* mail traffic (without any need for a dedicated plug-in). One of such ones is AntiVir (Personal Edition, which is free) I use often, and it (the Guard part of it) will react on ANY occurrence which involves a suspicious file/action. It is *very light* in spending resources whilst it monitors machine. And although I have pretty tight selective download filters, here and there AntiVir is catching some infected file, and asks me for action I'd prefer (renaming, deleting, denying/allowing access etc.). It does that very fast, so you can proceed download of other messages of that account, on the fly. It will react even if just a single *component* used for building a viruses, trojans etc. is found in a file, warning you about possible hazard such file can cause. (The example is when a program for revealing passwords is shown in a file manager; such program is NOT a virus/trojan, but has some components used for building them. Another example are shareware programs having components for phoning home, etc.) There are plenty of good AV programs, so is not very grateful to say which one is best, but basically those which are able to function independently, that is to treat all files/occurrences equally, using no special plug-in (which requires some sort of integration with a particular application, which, further, might be a cause of possible complications), are most reliable. - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast :flagmica: [Earth LOG: 65 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OS: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) 9.1 UMSDOS Linux; and, for TB sometimes Libranet (Linux) 2.8.1, via Cross Over Office -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBi33K9q62QPd3XuIRAvOlAJ9wyZXts8/6EV6MmKMLPQSihTq1CQCgiNOJ QuWZ1sQnaijGpiK5nx3rMgA= =Kc4Q -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Total Commander
Hello Group On Friday, November 5, 2004, 6:06:15 AM, z5worg wrote: The WinXP in Windows Explorer is already set to Show hidden files and folders and Hide protected operating system files is also unchecked. But I still cannot open the System Volume Information folder. Have you open that folder and copied any files from that folder? If not, would you try and let me know? I am simply trying to use TC to make a full backup copy of my C: drive (a new installation of WinXP); so that if I need to reinstall a clean copy of WinXP, I can simply do a copy from this backup and it would be mostly all configured. [snipped] zzc Thanks for the info. Does that mean that I can have a clean zzc reinstall of WinXP by copying back from the backup copy described zzc above -- without the System Volume Informaiton files? So does the OS zzc create/configure a new System Volume Informaiton ONLY IF I reinstall zzc from the WinXP installation CD? [snipped] I doubt that you can make a backup that you can just copy back in the way you suggest and expect it to work. If nothing else the registry changes all the time and, even if you can copy it (it is always open or in use) it won't be up to date because it will be a snapshot. You'll also need an OS already installed to run TC. The best thing to achieve what you want would be Norton Ghost or Symantec Drive Image. With those tools you take a complete sector by sector copy of the drive and the tool will copy it back sector by sector, it's a good way of keeping a clean install to hand. You need to 'activate' XP before you do this or re-instating it after the days of grace expire will leave you looking at a screen which basically says 'no entry' until you have activated by telephone. On the subject of the dreaded System Volume Information directory - if you have more than one logical drive and want to do a complete clean re-install from CD/DVD then turn off system recovery on all drives before you do the re-install - XP will then empty those folders. If you don't do this then SysVolInfo on all drives apart from C: will be full of useless junk and, as you have discovered, you can't get in the directory to empty it! I realised this part way through an install once, the drives were FAT32 so I could see them after booting from my rescue CD and it took 90 minutes with DelTree to clean them out, I've never done it since :-) -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PC-cillin and TB!
Hello WilWilWil! On Thursday, November 04, 2004, 6:15 PM, you wrote, in part: W I had the same problem when testing KAV personal Pro 5 with TB3 ! W TB3 froze because KAV blocked some TB databases files. It was very W annoying. That why I 've chosen AVG 7. Now viruses are great W managed and moved to quarantine without perturbation. There's been a thread on tbbeta about the incompatibility of Kaspersky versions 5.xx with TB! versions 3.xx. This was in early to mid-October, 2004. Kaspersky and TB! are no longer compatible--the plug-in to TB! will not be further developed to make it compatible, according to this thread, in which some of the RitLabs programmers partcipated. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.0.2.4 Rush on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Reply Filtering
Alexander, You asked: Why do you want to store the replies with the original mails, Paul? Do you want to track all conversation from/to certain person(s) and/or adress book group(s)? I want to keep e-mail to/from each client and supplier in individual folders as otherwise the volumes in each folder become difficult to manage. Virtual folders would have the same effort required for each grouping just like filters. I was just talking to a client who said that in outlook the default is to file the reply with the original message unless a filter overrides this. This seems like an ideal solution. With the volumes of mail I am managing this is tempting... -- PJ Using TB! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply Filtering
ON Friday, November 5, 2004, 12:29:05 AM, you wrote: RO Anybody added it to the wishlist yet? Hi Roelof, I didn't. I have been to busy and have not done this before so it will probably take half a day to figure this out. Can I ask you to do this? I promise to buy you a bear if you are in Haarlem anytime ;-) -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- A golf course is the epitome of all that is purely transitory in the universe, a space not to dwell in, but to get over as quickly as possible. Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: PC-cillin and TB!
Hello, Mary. Kaspersky and TB! are no longer compatible As I heard TheBat can work with KAV 4,5 - 5 (Personal) via new plug-in klav 4.0.1.19 http://www.thebatworld.de/modules/download/index.php?op=viewlinkdetailslid=44ttitle=Kaspersky_Pro_AV_Plugin_4.0.1.19_%28KAV_4.x%2F5.x%29 http://www.batboard.net/index.php?showtopic=2516st=0 -- Best regards, Ivan Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Total Commander
Hello z5worg, Thanks for the info. Does that mean that I can have a clean reinstall of WinXP by copying back from the backup copy described above -- without the System Volume Informaiton files? So does the OS create/configure a new System Volume Informaiton ONLY IF I reinstall from the WinXP installation CD? I think Jeff Gaines has explained the issue much better than I would have been able too. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.4 Rush Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Total Commander
Hello Mica, but I didn't see that anyone told him *how to do what he want*. In my mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] last night I wrote: ,- [ ] | Anyway, if you are curious and what to see what's inside, take a look at: | |http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;309531 | | or | |http://www.theeldergeek.com/system_volume_information_folder1.htm | | or search Google for more links. `- Isn't that enough? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.4 Rush Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Anti-Virus Programs that work with TB! [was Re: PC-cillin and TB!]
Hello Ivan! On Friday, November 05, 2004, 8:35 AM, you wrote: MB Kaspersky and TB! are no longer compatible I As I heard TheBat can work with KAV 4,5 - 5 (Personal) I via new plug-in klav 4.0.1.19 I http://www.thebatworld.de/modules/download/index.php?op=viewlinkdetailslid=44ttitle=Kaspersky_Pro_AV_Plugin_4.0.1.19_%28KAV_4.x%2F5.x%29 I http://www.batboard.net/index.php?showtopic=2516st=0 Is it not still in the testing phase? (Second URL). One work-around told on tbbeta was to install the KAV 4.xx plug-in on TB! v. 2.xx and then upgrade to TB! v. 3.xx, in which case the KAV 4.xx plug-in is conserved. Seems like a lot of trouble, when AVG is still a viable (with a free option) alternative, and when F-Secure 2005 works perfectly with TB! with no plug-in. (I'm using F-Secure--but I have no interest in the company beyond being a customer. :) ) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.0.2.4 Rush on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: PC-cillin and TB!
Hello Leo, On Thursday, November 4, 2004, 10:11 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm getting a new computer and want to get the best firewall and virus protection I can, and have been looking at Trend Micro PC-cillin Internet Security. I am wondering if any TB! users have tried this suite; and more generally, if there has to be specific compatibility between email programs and virus software. LL I have a Trend Micro Office Suite mandatory at work, including the laptop LL which runs The Bat (1.x) for my private mail. I receive a lot of spam, and LL some of it is virus-infected. The problem is, that when the Bat stores LL this virus attachment on disk, the OfficeScan pops up saying it's a virus. LL For some reason TheBat cannot continue operation (I guess because LL OfficeScan takes over the file for quarantine or smth), and the message is LL not deleted on the server. This means that every 5 minutes (my polling LL period) I get this message and have to delete the e-mail manually on the LL server. So TB mail is scanned; but Trend then is alerted to the virus which TB has isolated. Not good. I wonder if there would be any difference in the Home edition, and with TB v3.x. Thanks for the information! -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: PC-cillin and TB!
Hello WilWilWil, On Thursday, November 4, 2004, 10:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LL ...The problem is, that when the Bat stores LL this virus attachment on disk, the OfficeScan pops up saying it's a virus. LL For some reason TheBat cannot continue operation (I guess because LL OfficeScan takes over the file for quarantine or smth), and the message is LL not deleted on the server. This means that every 5 minutes (my polling LL period) I get this message and have to delete the e-mail manually on the LL server. W...I had the same problem when testing KAV personal Pro 5 with TB3 ! W TB3 froze because KAV blocked some TB databases files. It was W very annoying. That why I 've chosen AVG 7. Now viruses are great W managed and moved to quarantine without perturbation. W And for firewall I use Kerio Personal Firewall 4. It's free and W work well with my system (AVG / Ad-Aware 6 / TB3). I currently use ZA Pro and AVG free and am not 100% happy with either. I'll have a look at Kerio. Thanks for your help. -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: PC-cillin and TB!
Hi Alexander, On Friday, November 5, 2004, 10:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm getting a new computer and want to get the best firewall and virus protection I can, and have been looking at Trend Micro PC-cillin Internet Security. ASK Do you have a reason to look at this specific product? I read a very good review of the product; also wanted to try a bundled virus/firewall. ASK AFAIK there's a Kaspersky AV plugin available for TheBat - Yes, I visited the Kaspersky site and there is a plugin available. ASK Firewall - well, the best firewall is air. The air thats between the ASK plug and the socket when you pull the cable of your internet ASK connection. :) Pull the... cable?? Disconnect??? ASK OK, joking aside... Whew. :-)) ASK the personal firewall that runs on the very same ASK machine it should protect is subject to lengthy discussions for a ASK while. However, I do see a benefit from using this kind of software, ASK so here's my two cents:... ASK #1 is the real security issue, and the built-in firewall of Win XP ASK (SP2) is good enough for that, period. #2 is a privacy issue - and ASK you'll need a separate product for that. There's a couple of freeware ASK personal firewall solutions, and I would use one of them (Tiny ASK Personal Firewall, Sygate, Outpost...). Yes, I was hoping to install something like the PC-cillin suite and not have to go shopping. Oh well! Thanks very much for your comments. -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: PC-cillin and TB!
Hi Mary, On Thursday, November 4, 2004, 11:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PJ I'm getting a new computer and want to get the best firewall and PJ virus protection I can, MB Pat, I have had no problems with F-Secure. MB http://www.f-secure.com/ There are so many! ... but as I said in an earlier post, I was (for some reason) looking for a combination anit-virus/firewall product and f-secure also fits the bill. MB I am using only its AV (it now offers a suite, new this year, with MB firewall) and I have just renewed my license, after one year's use. MB The interface is friendly and it has the advantage of combining 3 MB separate virus-scanning engines. XP SP2 recognizes it. There's no MB plug-in for TB!, but that's not necessary. F-Secure recognizes an MB e-mail infection as it is being downloaded. It recognizes an infected MB file as soon as it's clicked on. MB For my firewall I'm using the free Sygate. Just upgraded to the latest MB one. I like it for its simple user interface, also. Sygate gets good reviews too. MB But WilWilWil has a good set-up, too, with the free anti-virus program MB AVG--which *does* have a plug-in for TB!--and Kerio as firewall. I MB used AVG for about six months. Left it for Kaspersky (KAV), because MB Kaspersky updated more often. I am currently using AVG free version and it seems to work well, though in those comparison charts is not as aggressive as some anti-virus programs. On the other hand, I've been looking at those charts so much I've gone cross-eyed. MB Kaspersky's interface I found quite MB complicated. And it no longer supports The Bat! with a plug-in. Last MB November I moved to F-Secure. It can be set to check automatically for MB updates as often as you like. Virus Definitions are usually updated MB daily, but sometimes more often. The Kaspersky site says there is a plugin for TB!, but did say version 1.x and up, which doesn't exactly build confidence. :-) MB The question of choosing an AV and a firewall to go with TB! comes up MB rather often on tbudl. You might try a search on the Gmane archives MB for more opinions. I know this topic comes up a lot, and really only wanted someone to say PC-cillin works PERFECTLY with The Bat!. But since it doesn't the info I've received has been helpful, and I really am sorry to open up this discussion again. I would insert the appropriate smiley here, but that's another discussion left alone for awhile! :-) --oops. Thanks Mary, for your always helpful comments. -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply Filtering
Fri, 5 Nov 2004 03:18:09 + (10:18 PM EST Thu here) MFPA wrote: On Friday, 5 November, 2004, at 1:05:38 AM, Dan Grunberg wrote: In the Outgoing filters, filter on this header. Can he do this without having a filter for each folder? That'll be a no then... Create a Quick Template, let's call it ComFold More to the point, name the QT something you will remember easily. %Rem BEGIN QT ComFold===%- %- %SetHeader(Comments,%FolderName)%- %- %Rem END QT ComFold===%- Then add this line to each folder's Reply Template: %QINCLUDE(ComFold) What is the advantage of using a Quick Template here, rather than just adding the line %SetHeader(Comments,%FolderName)%- to all your reply templates? 1. It's easier to remember the QT's name than it is to remember how to use %SETHeader. This can be a real advantage if you want only some folders to have replies filed in them, and/or if you decide each time you create a new folder. 2. Let's suppose that you have some folders where you want to decide whether or not to file each reply, as you write the reply. Set up filters for those folders, but don't include the QT in their reply template. Then, if you were to type the following, anywhere in the the message, a reply (or, for that matter, any message) written while one of the filtered folders was the highlighted, the reply (or any message) would be filed in the folder: ComFold followed immediately (i.e. no space) by Ctrl+Space 3. If you ever want to add more to every folder's reply template, you need only modify the one QT. All of the Outgoing Mail filters will be the similar, so 1. Inside TheBat!, create and troubleshoot an Outgoing Mail filter forone of the folders. 2. Copy the Outgoing Mail filter and paste and re-paste it into a wordprocessor document once for each of the remaining folders. 3. Systematically use the word processor to [...] 4. Copy the whole word processor document and paste it into TheBat!'sOutgoing Mail filters. I like that trick. Certainly this is a pain, but certainly it can be done. Perhaps it can be done in the time it takes to complain about having to do it. |grin| Using: The Bat! v2.12.00, BayesIt! 0.5.9, MyMacros 1.11, gMacrosPlugin 0.80 Windows 2000 v5.0 - Build 2195 - Service Pack 4 -- Daniel A. Grunberg Kensington, Maryland, USA homepage: www.nyx.net/~dgrunber/ Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: PC-cillin and TB!
Hi Michael, On Thursday, November 4, 2004, 11:11 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PJ I'm getting a new computer and want to get the best firewall and virus PJ protection I can, and have been looking at Trend Micro PC-cillin PJ Internet Security. I am wondering if any TB! users have tried this PJ suite; and more generally, if there has to be specific compatibility PJ between email programs and virus software. MR I use Trend OfficeScan, which has the same or similar engine to MR PC-Cillin. I had to manually change my Account Properties so that the MR mail server was 'localhost' and the user was of the format MR 'xxx%domain.com/pop.domain.com'. It's not as integrated as the MR programs that work directly with TheBat! but the other features of the MR product are nice. Did Trend provide instructions for changing your Account Properties? (They sound similar to the changes I made when using SpamPal.) Otherwise, you don't have a problem with OfficeScan shutting down TB!, like Leo did? Still, since the support at Trend was less than helpful, I may have to give the product a pass (that is, a fail :-)). I appreciate your help! -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: PC-cillin and TB!
Hi Mica, On Friday, November 5, 2004, 11:18 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm getting a new computer and want to get the best firewall and virus protection I can, and have been looking at Trend Micro PC-cillin Internet Security. I am wondering if any TB! users have tried this suite; and more generally, if there has to be specific compatibility between email programs and virus software. On the Trend site, under System Requirements, email, The Bat! is not listed... MM You simply could try some AV which is not at all specifically MM tied/dedicated to e-mail traffic; simply an engine which will treat ALL MM sorts of activities in the same way, controlling *everything* what MM happens to your machine - *including* mail traffic (without any need for MM a dedicated plug-in). That is exactly what I am looking for, but of course want the email scan included, as you say. Plug in not necessary. MM One of such ones is AntiVir (Personal Edition, MM which is free) I use often, and it (the Guard part of it) will react MM on ANY occurrence which involves a suspicious file/action. I haven't heard of this one! MM It is *very MM light* in spending resources whilst it monitors machine. That I like very much. MM And although I MM have pretty tight selective download filters, here and there AntiVir is MM catching some infected file, and asks me for action I'd prefer MM (renaming, deleting, denying/allowing access etc.). It does that very MM fast, so you can proceed download of other messages of that account, on MM the fly. ...as long as you don't have to be too techie to run the software efficiently? MM There are plenty of good AV programs, so is not very grateful to say MM which one is best, but basically those which are able to function MM independently, that is to treat all files/occurrences equally, using MM no special plug-in (which requires some sort of integration with a MM particular application, which, further, might be a cause of possible MM complications), are most reliable. Yes I think you are right; sometimes the convenience of a plug in turns out to be a major headache instead, and needless since most virus programs will scan without the integration. Thank you very much, Mica! -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply Filtering
Hello Paul Jansen everyone else 05-Nov-2004 15:19, you wrote: I want to keep e-mail to/from each client and supplier in individual folders as otherwise the volumes in each folder become difficult to manage. Virtual folders would have the same effort required for each grouping just like filters. OK. I was just talking to a client who said that in outlook the default is to file the reply with the original message unless a filter overrides this. Its not the default (I'm using Outlook at work). You can configure it to keep replies in the same folder as the originating message. Since that feature has been requested more than once here and it seems it is very common amongst business users, I'd say it would be worth to file a wish on BT. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using TB! v3.0.2.4 Rush on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 Ignore death up to the last moment; then, when it can't be ignored any longer, have yourself squirted full of morphia and shuffle off in a coma. Thoroughly sensible, humane and scientific, eh? (Aldous Huxley, 1894-1963, British author) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply Filtering
Hello Gerard everyone else 05-Nov-2004 15:23, you wrote: I promise to buy you a bear A real one? Or a soft toy? SCNR! ;-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using TB! v3.0.2.4 Rush on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, when you do criticize him, you'll be a mile away and have his shoes. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply Filtering
Hallo Gerard, On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 15:23:53 +0100GMT (5-11-2004, 15:23 +0100, where I live), you wrote: RO Anybody added it to the wishlist yet? Z Can I ask you to do this? https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4025 -- Groetjes, Roelof Pride is what we have. Vanity is what others have. The Bat! 3.0.2.4 Rush Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgppNSgsauXv8.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply Filtering
Hallo Alexander, On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 18:52:34 +0100GMT (5-11-2004, 18:52 +0100, where I live), you wrote: I promise to buy you a bear ASK A real one? Or a soft toy? I'd prefer the latter, especially since there is a new nephew/niece on the way. -- Groetjes, Roelof Never lean forward to push an invisible object. The Bat! 3.0.2.4 Rush Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpMmAhsrJFVA.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PC-cillin and TB!
Hello Mica Mijatovic everyone else 05-Nov-2004 14:19, you wrote: One of such ones is AntiVir (Personal Edition, which is free) I use often, and it (the Guard part of it) will react on ANY occurrence which involves a suspicious file/action. It is *very light* in spending resources whilst it monitors machine. ...OTOH it is very heavy on the online updates (I never saw an update below 1MB), and the way to set the online update in a way that it will happen automatically is to be found only by the more curious users. There are plenty of good AV programs Actually, there are not. :) Usually less than 50% of tested AV software reach 100% detection rate... so is not very grateful to say which one is best, but basically those which are able to function independently, that is to treat all files/occurrences equally, using no special plug-in (which requires some sort of integration with a particular application, which, further, might be a cause of possible complications), are most reliable. It can be an advantage to have an email plugin, as it is outlined in TB's helpfile, too (search the index for anti-virus): it may detect malware in email that comes via encrypted channels, too, where normal mail scanners fail, for example. In addition, there are antivirus programs which are simply not aware of all email programs and their database files. Imagine an antivirus program that detects a virus signature in a large email folder (where the virus does absolutely no harm) and it quarantines the whole file, or, if the scanner is configured more strict, deletes the whole folder at once. Surprise surprise - all mails gone. My strategy is to completely exclude the mail programs data folders from both the on-access and on-demand scanning, and have the mails scanned separately (if at all, I do not) - if you click on a malicious attachment and try to execute and/or save it, the on-access scanner will catch it, anyway. YMMV -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using TB! v3.0.2.4 Rush on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 A person starts to live when he can live outside himself. -- Albert Einstein Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PC-cillin and TB!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Fri, 5 Nov 2004, @ @ at 19:43:37 +0100, when Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Hello Mica Mijatovic everyone else Glad to see you. (: 05-Nov-2004 14:19, you wrote: One of such ones is AntiVir (Personal Edition, which is free) I use often, and it (the Guard part of it) will react on ANY occurrence which involves a suspicious file/action. It is *very light* in spending resources whilst it monitors machine. ...OTOH it is very heavy on the online updates (I never saw an update below 1MB), and the way to set the online update in a way that it will happen automatically is to be found only by the more curious users. What is heavy for a broadband user? I just downloaded newest version of ~4,5 MB, for some 25 minutes on *dial-up*. If I would try to update it online it would disconnect me countless times, or connection will drop in coma, the equal number of times, without possibility of resuming so I'd probably have to bequeath this online update to my progeny, using such a method. And above all, I would have firstly to *provide* some progeny. You must admit, therefore, that what you subtly foreshadow has no all pros and cons modestly equilibrated. (Today, we are string walkers.) There are plenty of good AV programs Actually, there are not. :) Usually less than 50% of tested AV software reach 100% detection rate... I wholelungsly suspect that even ONE AV on this beautiful world in this part of galaxy can do that. What we read in newspapers mainly does not exist. There is NO any AV which will catch 100% of anything something. That's the reason I used term good instead perfect, and further, that's the reason why people use more than one AV, for various sorts of (digital) beasts, for the raids from left, right, back... Under... You have to have *strategy*. You cannot just buy a gun and that's all. What's one gun for all of that growing populace. If those beast are so easily scared, we could kill them by frowning. . It can be an advantage to have an email plugin, as it is outlined in TB's helpfile, too (search the index for anti-virus): it may detect malware in email that comes via encrypted channels, too, where normal mail scanners fail, for example. Encrypted channels? What's that? Teach me. Please. (: In addition, there are antivirus programs which are simply not aware of all email programs and their database files. Imagine an antivirus program that detects a virus signature in a large email folder (where the virus does absolutely no harm) and it quarantines the whole file, or, if the scanner is configured more strict, deletes the whole folder at once. Surprise surprise - all mails gone. Surprise, surprise - you didn't follow my exposure. (: Pat, pat. I'll be shameless and will cite myself: ...AntiVir is catching some infected file, and asks me for action I'd prefer (renaming, deleting, denying/allowing access etc.). It does that very fast, so you can proceed download of other messages of that account... ...so you can proceed download of other messages of that account -- other and messages; therefore it intercepts single messages *before* they become a part of any folder or whatever database, if they are of a such fate, therefore before they even *arrive* in TB. So, the suspicious message wants to come in, and AntiVir says: No! Stop! You can't get in since you are suspicious. I have to ask the Boss (it's Me) firstly. And only if I allow that, this single message is entering and is becoming the part of some folder or whatever, by its respective merit. My strategy is to completely exclude the mail programs data folders from both the on-access and on-demand scanning, and have the mails scanned separately (if at all, I do not) - if you click on a malicious attachment and try to execute and/or save it, the on-access scanner will catch it, anyway. YMMV Your strategy is also good, but Miss Pat asked for an AV which will *also* check the incoming mail, when it yet consists from separate single messages, before they become the part of a data folders. She then will have many opportunities to click on them as well. AntiVir can do that too. Btw, once a single message is in a message base (files TBB) no AV will be able to recognize any virus, since all of them (if attachments are stored in same file) are then in plain text format. (-; Catch-22. So, it's good then to keep all attachments separately. *Then* you can check them for viruses successfully, even if they are not open in TB. What are those encrypted channels? Do I have some of these? - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast o [Earth LOG: 65 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OS: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) 9.1 UMSDOS Linux; and, for TB sometimes Libranet (Linux) 2.8.1, via Cross Over Office -BEGIN PGP
Re: Reply Filtering
ON Friday, November 5, 2004, 7:22:46 PM, you wrote: I promise to buy you a bear ASK A real one? Or a soft toy? RO I'd prefer the latter, especially since there is a new nephew/niece on RO the way. Roelof, I will see what I can do :-) -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Break - 1.The shifting or changing of the direction of a putt caused by the slope or slant of a green. 2. The splitting or shattering of the shaft of a putter caused by the rage or wrath of a player who misread the break. Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply Filtering
ON Friday, November 5, 2004, 7:21:41 PM, you wrote: RO Anybody added it to the wishlist yet? Z Can I ask you to do this? RO https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4025 Roelof, That is an other whish. Filters should be able to get a list of possible matches from text files I tried logging in but I can not remember my password, otherwise I would have done it myself :( I will try again tomorrow. It is getting to late. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Backswing - The part of the swing that takes place after the ball has been improperly addressed but before it has been sent to the wrong destination. Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:PC-cillin and TB!
P.Johnson, Friday, November 5, 2004, 12:14:31 PM, you wrote: PJ Did Trend provide instructions for changing your Account PJ Properties? (They sound similar to the changes I made when using PJ SpamPal.) Otherwise, you don't have a problem with OfficeScan PJ shutting down TB!, like Leo did? PJ Still, since the support at Trend was less than helpful, I may have to PJ give the product a pass (that is, a fail :-)). PJ I appreciate your help! Yes, there were instructions provided. No problems with it shutting down. Of the biggies (Norton, McAffee, Trend) Trend is the only one you can call and get free phone support (888-608-1009). There may be other vendors who also provide support. Good luck. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Viewing account log doesn't work...
In order to view the account log (Account - View Log) is not working. Nor is it working using Shift Ctrl A. Can anyone suggest why? Do I need to associate a file type with a text editor? If so, what's the extension of a log file? -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 with POPFile 0.22.1 on Windows XP 5.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Total Commander
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 4 Nov 2004, @ @ at 15:49:02 +, when Jeff Gaines wrote: Is that what we can all look forward to in the next version of Windows :-) I don't believe Bill will ever offer such simple solution. (-: - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast o [Earth LOG: 65 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OS: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) 9.1 UMSDOS Linux; and, for TB sometimes Libranet (Linux) 2.8.1, via Cross Over Office -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBjAA/9q62QPd3XuIRAnfAAJ4xg6hSulBFZ0BHkSMpJtWSUsAbugCfXPvt WGhuWgy4QzPJQii1MSlCxFc= =nUnH -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Total Commander
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Fri, 5 Nov 2004, @ @ at 15:57:56 +0100, when MAU wrote: Hello Mica, but I didn't see that anyone told him *how to do what he want*. In my mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] last night I wrote: ,- [ ] | Anyway, if you are curious and what to see what's inside, take a look at: | |http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;309531 | | or | |http://www.theeldergeek.com/system_volume_information_folder1.htm | | or search Google for more links. `- Isn't that enough? Sorry, Miguel, I didn't grasp that these links are solution. I thought that was needed just to say how to open the mentioned folder. I *remember* it is something with changing permissions/status, but couldn't recall exactly (XP is not my primary Windows, and some details I forget when I do not use them for a while). - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast o [Earth LOG: 65 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OS: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) 9.1 UMSDOS Linux; and, for TB sometimes Libranet (Linux) 2.8.1, via Cross Over Office -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBjAHY9q62QPd3XuIRAi4zAJ40JxXjIqOWBHbpE4Vm7xX9MCZkSgCfaLd8 xYqohc/vackGXE4K2QZ43wQ= =3XRi -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PC-cillin and TB!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Fri, 5 Nov 2004, @ @ at 11:25:05 -0600, when P.Johnson wrote: MM One of such ones is AntiVir (Personal Edition, MM which is free) I use often, and it (the Guard part of it) will react MM on ANY occurrence which involves a suspicious file/action. I haven't heard of this one! Sorry, I forgot link: www.bedv.com is home page. Also there is info at www.free-av.com, and direct d/l link (I just have installed the newest version) is this: http://www.avup.de/personal/en/avwinsfx.exe Size: 4364KB MM And although I have pretty tight selective download filters, here MM and there AntiVir is catching some infected file, and asks me for MM action I'd prefer (renaming, deleting, denying/allowing access MM etc.). It does that very fast, so you can proceed download of other MM messages of that account, on the fly. ...as long as you don't have to be too techie to run the software efficiently? TB is much more techie. (-: After all, you may try it and see yourself if it fits your needs. (: - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast o [Earth LOG: 65 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OS: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) 9.1 UMSDOS Linux; and, for TB sometimes Libranet (Linux) 2.8.1, via Cross Over Office -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBjAQc9q62QPd3XuIRAsBdAJ4lY+2O5lhMBUEJAmjCoEIkwDni2ACeJ3uH 8S7VrWo6YIVG9aGofk7KwuA= =m4LS -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply Filtering
Hallo Gerard, On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 22:56:32 +0100GMT (5-11-2004, 22:56 +0100, where I live), you wrote: Z That is an other whish. You're right I mixed them up, as I was in favor of both of them. ;-) In this thread I meant this: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4026 -- Groetjes, Roelof 0100111011010110000111 - Well, computers think it's funny. The Bat! 3.0.2.4 Rush Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgp35NM5wMt5C.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply Filtering
Hi On Friday, 5 November, 2004, at 5:13:14 PM, Dan Grunberg wrote: Create a Quick Template, let's call it ComFold [...] What is the advantage of using a Quick Template here, rather than just adding the line %SetHeader(Comments,%FolderName)%- to all your reply templates? 1. It's easier to remember the QT's name than it is to remember how to use %SETHeader. This can be a real advantage if you want only some folders to have replies filed in them, and/or if you decide each time you create a new folder. Possibly. 2. Let's suppose that you have some folders where you want to decide whether or not to file each reply, as you write the reply. Set up filters for those folders, but don't include the QT in their reply template. Then, if you were to type the following, anywhere in the the message, a reply (or, for that matter, any message) written while one of the filtered folders was the highlighted, the reply (or any message) would be filed in the folder: ComFold followed immediately (i.e. no space) by Ctrl+Space Good point (if you can remember it) 3. If you ever want to add more to every folder's reply template, Or address book templates you need only modify the one QT. That could make life a whole lot easier -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PC-cillin and TB!
Hi On Friday, 5 November, 2004, at 8:54:35 PM, Mica Mijatovic wrote: So, it's good then to keep all attachments separately. *Then* you can check them for viruses successfully, even if they are not open in TB. from TB help file: Attachments stored separately from message bodies may not get moved between account folders if a message body is moved. Is this still true? -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PC-cillin and TB!
Hi On Friday, 5 November, 2004, at 5:10:36 PM, P.Johnson wrote: The Kaspersky site says there is a plugin for TB!, but did say version 1.x and up, which doesn't exactly build confidence. :-) Just for comparison: To install AVG plugin, a version 1.60 (or newer) of The Bat! is required. The previous versions don't contain a support of anti-virus plugins. -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
