Re[2]: Dispatch mail on the server
Howdy Henk, Thursday, December 23, 2004, 7:01:59 AM, Henk wrotened: HdB -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- HdB Hash: SHA1 HdB On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 01:42:39 +0100GMT (23-12-2004, 1:42 +0100, where I HdB live), Mica wrote: ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 23 Dec 2004, @ @ at 01:05:59 +0100, when Henk de Bruijn wrote: I have 5 mailaccounts. With Poptray it is possible to check the server for all 5 accounts in one check. Is that also possible with the Bat! or do I have to use Ctrl-F2 five times? Just Alt+F2 one time. And F11, once, for send all and receive all. One (or two) of the many bright sides of TB. (-: HdB Thanks Mica, I am familiar with Alt-F2 (receive all) but I want to check the HdB server first. DO you mean you want to check what mail is on the server before deciding what to download? In that case in the account properties of each account go to mail management and tick the box marked invoke automatically at each mail check. Then when you hit Alt+F2 (in theory as I haven't tested this) the mail dispatcher should pop up and allow you to choose what to download. I think anyway -- Have Fun, | | |en is |\ohop mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I've discovered that I often visit the state of confusion, and I know my way around pretty well. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Bayes spam plugin
Tried it. For awhile, it gave me good results, but after a month or so, it started to miss spam. It also has (in my case) the very nasty habit to create log files whereever it likes. W The location of the log files are configurable: Options - Preferences - W Anti Spam - Click on plugin - Configure. I know... Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Dispatch mail on the server
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 08:47:41 +GMT (23-12-2004, 9:47 +0100, where I live), Ben Allen wrote: Thursday, December 23, 2004, 7:01:59 AM, Henk wrotened: ...snip HdB Thanks Mica, I am familiar with Alt-F2 (receive all) but I want to check the HdB server first. DO you mean you want to check what mail is on the server before deciding what to download? In that case in the account properties of each account go to mail management and tick the box marked invoke automatically at each mail check. Then when you hit Alt+F2 (in theory as I haven't tested this) the mail dispatcher should pop up and allow you to choose what to download. I think anyway That's it! Thanks Ben that's what I have been looking for. - -- Henk __ The Bat! Natural Email System v3.0.1.33nl Professional on Windows XP SP2 PGPkey available at http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0x12069B93DBE6E678 Gossamer Spider Web of Trust GSWoT http://gswot.dyndns.org/ A Progressive and Innovative Web of Trust -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) - GPGrelay v0.955 iD8DBQFBypjsEgabk9vm5ngRAhz7AJ0X11itSRQ8lOfnGOaJtoM5qM+mCwCdGDVN DxfaQpErlUHoyV9juAmvFOA= =gvtU -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection
On Wednesday, December 22, 2004 at 9:06:26 PM [GMT -0500], Watcher wrote: I disabled warnings, let's see how that goes, I DO want to hear if there is a real problem. With these disabled you won't. :/ At least not when there are real problems with TB! server poling. However, the errors heard while using Windows will not lose their value. -- Cheers, -= Allie =- . Beware of Geeks bearing gifs. «·» IMAP Client: The Bat! v3.0.2.5 IMAP Server: MDaemon Pro · OS: Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2) smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SOT: Too busy Merry Xmas!
ON Wednesday, December 22, 2004, 3:16:10 PM, you wrote: MM ***^\ ._)~~ MM ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Wed, 22 Dec 2004, MM@ @ at 14:00:52 +0100, when Andre Wichartz wrote: MM With the holidays fast approaching and EULAs pretty much a fact of life, MM please accept -- with no obligation, implied or implicit, on behalf of Seriously snipped Mica, you must have far to much time on your hands but it is brilliant. All the best to you and all on this list. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Gimme: An agreement between two losers who can't putt. Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Dispatch mail on the server
Was it 23. decembar 2004 when Henk wrote: HdB Thanks Mica, I am familiar with Alt-F2 (receive all) but I want to check the HdB server first. At the account preferences go to Mail Management. Check to auto-invoke the Message dispatcher at EACH mail check. Finito! :) -- ( Good Vibrations ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:271599808 [M] There are two types of people in this world, good and bad. The good sleep better, but the bad seem to enjoy the waking hours much more. - Woody Allen smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Dispatch mail on the server
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 23 Dec 2004, @ @ at 08:47:41 +, when Ben Allen wrote: Henk wrotened: HdBMica wrote: Henk de Bruijn wrote: I have 5 mailaccounts. With Poptray it is possible to check the server for all 5 accounts in one check. Is that also possible with the Bat! or do I have to use Ctrl-F2 five times? Just Alt+F2 one time. And F11, once, for send all and receive all. One (or two) of the many bright sides of TB. (-: HdB Thanks Mica, I am familiar with Alt-F2 (receive all) but I want to HdB check the server first. DO you mean you want to check what mail is on the server before deciding what to download? In that case in the account properties of each account go to mail management and tick the box marked invoke automatically at each mail check. Yes, if it is not checked, it is needed then. I assumed that Henk already had this checked since he asked only about simultaneous working with all accounts. - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast :crazy: [Earth LOG: 113 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OS: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) 9.1 UMSDOS Linux, and with Bochs 2.1.1 with a small DLX Linux; and, for TB sometimes Libranet (Linux) 2.8.1, via Cross Over Office -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFByrRA9q62QPd3XuIRAuSlAJ9YdJKz9MT2RJvokS1duYoufMTFPgCfQFRr zBY2RwTe6tLWIAzkmGMwggk= =ClBq -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SOT: Too busy Merry Xmas!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 23 Dec 2004, @ @ at 12:38:33 +0100, when Gerard wrote: MM With the holidays fast approaching and EULAs pretty much a fact of MM life, please accept -- with no obligation, implied or implicit, on MM behalf of Seriously snipped True. We have to be seriously dedicated to something sometimes to avoid unbalancing the Cosmos (we have to be One with) by (regular and irregular) silliness. And vice versa. (-: Mica, you must have far to much time on your hands but it is brilliant. True again. I am the Lord of my Time (touch, and knock on, wood), though your supposition that I am the author of this text is a compliment for me, since my English, still, is not that eloquent. My excuse for I forgot to put it in quotation marks, and author is not known to me as well. All the best to you and all on this list. Thanks. I accompany my best wishes too. Let's all have nice turkey evenings or of any other sorts of birds we can afford to to our reverend and witty selves. - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast :bearhug: [Earth LOG: 113 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OS: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) 9.1 UMSDOS Linux, and with Bochs 2.1.1 with a small DLX Linux; and, for TB sometimes Libranet (Linux) 2.8.1, via Cross Over Office -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBysKC9q62QPd3XuIRAga3AJ0RnhL47z02j+23GGn0lbpI/IQdSgCfa/3/ iCxsAHcuHZqOjkUvOatNygs= =NupX -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: copying msg with short headers
Hello Jan, on Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:44:46 -0500 GMT your local time you wrote: JR Hi Peter. Thanks so much! A wonderful Christmas present. ;-) I'm glad that you're satisfied. JR Happy Holidays to you. Same to you. -- Regards, Peter Using Ritlabs TheBat! 3.0.2.10 (OS: Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Dispatch mail on the server
Hello Ben Allen everyone else, on 23-Dez-2004 at 09:47 you (Ben Allen) wrote: wrotened ...interesting verb form... :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using TB! v3.0.2.10 Home on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. -- Albert Einstein Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Connection
Hello Allie, On Thu, 23 Dec 2004, at 05:55:00 [GMT -0500] (9:14 AM here) you wrote: With these disabled you won't. :/ At least not when there are real problems with TB! server poling. However, the errors heard while using Windows will not lose their value. Yea, that did what I needed, thanks for the assist 8^) -- Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Watcher aka Bill DeVos - Random Quote: But I thought YOU did the backups... - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6 mQCPA0G35HIBbgEEALMndzJ2lVKRqV0QW/BF4d8goCFkb7B+ojnSBich4YL7db+O gmYvBbxu2oJBo/CCRZeDisYRPdRMFmTvsFqUvkuJOiXNvAkDiFCmIWYVJ0mBu8Es io7DNaxYggbd4uEtOd6OGuytuWea7Yb9+TJraQxG+anKVI8uqdf++W79nFLzABEB AAG0IVdhdGNoZXIgPHRoZS53YXRjaGVyQGJpZ2Zvb3QuY29tPokAlQMFEEG35HLX /vlu/ZxS8wEBroEEAIWxSsL3wrQWJwef4h9DtqTp8Gf05QQk3MYAOeT3myRCXYH4 MKkcHwarhgX9vDNmezf6GihJz6uKUaTzmOAWUPNGEpeG/l1or8+3+y75wYRms8Lg zu7qY2slrfydj4mdvG7T80VPPpjYQKSCJRHoqOstLnLgysF9WwAEXZ9aMYBp =VG8l -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- pgpkYIe9Z1gjp.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Common vs account filters
Hello tbudl, So I have a problem. You need two accounts to reproduce this: I converted three of my over 100 filters in my main account to be common filters which move messages to folders in the main account. They used to work perfectly as account filters, and they still do their job. The account filters in the subsidiary account mark all messages with a colour group. This works fine with message not caught by the common filters. The sub account has only three filters, which I consider irrrelevant for the moment. Messages which arrive in the subsidiary account are moved by the common filters to the main account as desired. However, they are *not* colour-coded. The account filters are completely ignored. (The test I did yesterday said differently, but I found out that was because I moved some of the messages manually.) Steps to reproduce: 1.) Don't use account filters in the main account. Switch them to be common filters. 2.) Have an email arrive at the other (subsidiary) account. 3.) Use common filters to move messages to folders in the main account. 4.) Have a filter in place in the sub account that assigns a colour group. The message will end up in the main account (that's correct) but the filter in the sub account (assinging the colour group) will be ignored. This is confirmed by the log file, even though the common filter moving the message has Continue Processing... checked. Is this a bug or am I trying something not intended? 9Val said that the link to the message object will not be lost by moving. -- TIA, Thomas. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
OT
Hello The Bat! Group, I want to wish everyone HAPPY HOLIDAYS! IMHO -- Best regards, Ron mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Today is a good day to bribe a high-ranking public official. Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. On a Pentium 3 700 MHz with 768 MB and 190 GB of drive space. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Dispatch mail on the server
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 23 Dec 2004, @ @ at 14:46:03 +0100, when Alexander S. Kunz wrote: The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. -- Albert Einstein Aahhh... so beautiful one! (: Was not known to me that he ever revealed his methodology that much. - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast :happypiglet: [Earth LOG: 113 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OS: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) 9.1 UMSDOS Linux, and with Bochs 2.1.1 with a small DLX Linux; and, for TB sometimes Libranet (Linux) 2.8.1, via Cross Over Office -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFByul49q62QPd3XuIRAk3iAJ44fXbUWc/ox6C0uvN/aTfOVsV5TACfT4i1 UqdnGUFH5SzEKjIH3ex3WO0= =agIa -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Common vs account filters
Hello Thomas Fernandez everyone else, on 23-Dez-2004 at 16:14 you (Thomas Fernandez) wrote: Is this a bug or am I trying something not intended? 9Val said that the link to the message object will not be lost by moving. Maybe it has to do with moving messages from one account to another, and that the incoming filter for the account you're moving the messages to will not be triggered - because they were incoming for another account. It doesn't matter if it is a common filter or an account filter - once an incoming filter was triggered thats it, and the continue processing flag has no effect. You could say that messages are bound to the account they're originally were received for. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using TB! v3.0.2.10 Home on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 There was never an idea started that woke men out of their stupid indifference but its originator was spoken of as a crank. -- Oliver Wendell Holmes Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Changing Subject header (again)
Hello TBUDL, I want to archive certain NYTimes articles but I'd really like to change the Subject line to make the articles easily accessible. I know I need to export messages using some format, change the Subject header somehow, and import back into TB! somehow. I've tried various possibilities but none of them work. I'm hoping someone will give me step by step instructions. Also, what's the address of the TB! archives, Gmail and the other one? Thanks. -- Best regards, Quin Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Changing Subject header (again)
On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:06:38 -0700, Quin Selman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know I need to export messages using some format, change the Subject header somehow, and import back into TB! somehow. That's exactly what I do sometimes. I export the message into some temporary folder, open it in Notepad {I use Edxor] edit, save and then import it back into TB! -- Dejan GROWING OLDER IS MANDATORY. GROWING UP IS OPTIONAL LAUGHING AT YOURSELF IS THERAPEUTIC! Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Changing Subject header (again)
Hello Quin, Thursday, December 23, 2004, 11:06:38 AM, you wrote: Q I want to archive certain NYTimes articles but I'd really like to Q change the Subject line to make the articles easily accessible. I Q know I need to export messages using some format, change the Q Subject header somehow, and import back into TB! somehow. I've Q tried various possibilities but none of them work. I'm hoping Q someone will give me step by step instructions. Just in case you didn't know. Have you tried putting the message in the Outbox, opening it, edit the subject line, save it, and then move the message to your archive folder? Q Also, what's the address of the TB! archives, Gmail and the other Q one? The URL at the bottom of every message you receive from the TB lists has all those answers and many more. http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html -- __ TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x6C0AB16B ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons: http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PCWSmileys: http://PCWize.com/thebat/pcwsmileys.php Tagline of the day: Was today really necessary? Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Common vs account filters
Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF So I have a problem. You need two accounts to reproduce this: snip TF The message will end up in the main account (that's correct) but the TF filter in the sub account (assinging the colour group) will be TF ignored. This is confirmed by the log file, even though the common TF filter moving the message has Continue Processing... checked. I just replicated this as carefully as I could, and it works as expected. The message is moved to a folder in account A by a common filter, and then assigned a color group by an account B filter. I'm at a loss. You've already answered just about all the questions I could think to ask. You don't indicate what version of TB! you're using, but a message from a few days ago indicates you're on 3.0.2.4. I know at least one common filter bug has been fixed without being mentioned in the release notes, but I don't remember when. If you're brave you could try the latest. -- George Using The Bat! 3.0.2.8 on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
G-Mail... Again!
Hello Leif, A reminder of what Leif Gregory on TBUDL typed on: 23 December 2004 at 19:22:40 GMT +0100 Q Also, what's the address of the TB! archives, Gmail and the other Q one? Talking of which, I now have another 12, yes twelve more invites to give away. -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 23/12/2004 at 18:56 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 PGP Key http://www.theboomclan.com/pgp.txt pgpHpkURukzOZ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: G-Mail... Again!
Hi Tony Boom, On 23/12/2004 02:09 PM, you wrote: Talking of which, I now have another 12, yes twelve more invites to give away. If I take one, does this mean that I'll be caught in that cycle of having all those invites to give out? :) -- -= Allie =- Oxymoron: Sit up. Using ThunderBird v1.0 IMAP Server: MDaemon Pro OS: Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: G-Mail... Again!
Hello AC, Thursday, December 23, 2004, 12:39:11 PM, you wrote: A If I take one, does this mean that I'll be caught in that cycle of A having all those invites to give out? :) Unfortunately, yes... It's getting bad. It used to be you'd only get invites every once in a while. Now you can't get rid of them fast enough. They should just open it up to self registration now. :-| -- __ TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x6C0AB16B ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons: http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PCWSmileys: http://PCWize.com/thebat/pcwsmileys.php Tagline of the day: Modiphobia - Fear of being nagged by a moderator. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: G-Mail... Again!
Hi Leif Gregory, On 23/12/2004 02:40 PM, you wrote: Unfortunately, yes... It's getting bad. It used to be you'd only get invites every once in a while. Now you can't get rid of them fast enough. They should just open it up to self registration now. :-| One wonders why they didn't do that before. It's horrendously popular it would seem. Every application that polls servers for mail or potentially does so has a plugin for GMail or has GMail support integrated. -- Cheers, -= Allie =- Oxymoron: Sit up. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
OT Re: Automating the sending of an e-mail of a backup
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Sat, 4 Dec 2004, @ @ at 10:54:12 +0100, when Alexander S. Kunz wrote: (Mica Mijatovic) wrote: Where the tags of yours disappeared? I love to talk with them. Human revision - if I post a oneliner and TB chose to add a 5-line tag, I remove it manually. :) Ah, I understand. Would be cruel indeed. (-; ...and if I'm listening to music... well, you see whats happening then. :) ...and then after the cut sign: Deliplayer2 is playing: Rotating Minds by JFC from the 2000 album 'Ambient Diary III - CD 1' But how do you get such a long title and even in two lines?? My Winamp is crippling titles to some 40 characters. What is Deliplayer2? Can I gogle right this name to get a d/l link? - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast :bearhug: [Earth LOG: 113 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OS: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) 9.1 UMSDOS Linux, and with Bochs 2.1.1 with a small DLX Linux; and, for TB sometimes Libranet (Linux) 2.8.1, via Cross Over Office -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFByySR9q62QPd3XuIRAhqmAJ4hczsTlOMisnKSMVmqXb24f7c6AQCdGdV8 DFp75hdq0XUID5Y13+jXaJA= =K7ah -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: G-Mail... Again!
Allie, On 23-12-2004 20:48, you [A] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: They should just open it up to self registration now. :-| A One wonders why they didn't do that before. This is the biggest MLM-scheme I have seen for a long time over something that to me is very ill-conceived for a lot of reasons. I simply do not get why people would want to get bombarded with ads in a potentially privacy infringing environment when you can get your own domain with e-mail for very few money. OK, I'll stop now - this whole GMail discussion should probably not start up again... :) A It's horrendously popular it would seem. Horrendous is a very precise choice of words if you ask me... :) -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.0.1.33 Pro /thebat version env. ~18 POP3, 1 IMAP (MailMax 5.5) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 150K msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 /os Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Deliplayer The Bat (was: Re: OT Re: Automating the sending of an e-mail of a backup)
Hello Mica Mijatovic everyone else, on 23-Dez-2004 at 21:03 you (Mica Mijatovic) wrote: Deliplayer2 is playing: Rotating Minds by JFC from the 2000 album 'Ambient Diary III - CD 1' But how do you get such a long title and even in two lines?? Deliplayer can create a textfile containing that information. You can fill it with whatever information that is available (either from tags or from the playlist - actually, you don't need precise file tags as you can manually enter information in the playlist), mine simply puts the above pre-formatted text with: Deliplayer2 is playing: ${songname}$if(${artist}){ by ${artist}}$if(${album}){ from the ${releasedate} album '${album}'} (this has to be configured in Deli's Client Control) The remaining magic is done with a quick template (thanks to Dan Grunberg) that is included in my signature (requires the XMP macro plugin): %IF(%XMP_FileSize(d:\sound\deliplayer2\dp2info.txt)1,%- %INCLUDE(d:\sound\deliplayer2\dp2info.txt),%- %WRAPPED(70,%COOKIE(E:\Text\Cookies\cookies.txt))%- (pathes need to be adjusted, of course) Ah, the beauty of macros and variables... :-) What is Deliplayer2? Can I gogle right this name to get a d/l link? http://www.deliplayer.com (almost to easy, aye?). Its a very powerful player (it has its origins on the Amiga, plays over 200 formats, need I say more?), but its not offering the huge amount of eye candy in skins and plugins like WinAmp, and it may not be as accessible as WinAmp is to the average user. Just like TB, much of its real potential is hidden (the GUI is totally modular, but you have to enable god mode configurability first, for example). Its lacking a real media library but the playlist is a very versatile replacement (I have all my music in the playlist). 'nuff advertising. :-) (you may have guessed it, I am a registered Deli user and beta tester *g*). -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using TB! v3.0.2.10 Home on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 Humor is mankind's greatest blessing -- Mark Twain Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Spam Shredder w/TB!
Hello TBUDL, I was considering trying this. Havent heard of anyone using this but I love a couple of other titles from this company (Spysweeper, WindowWasher) Anyone try it here? Im thinking of downloading the trial version. http://www.webroot.com/products/spamshredder/ -- Best regards, Darrin Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 pgpxumAaCmi6N.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spam Shredder w/TB!
Hello Darrin Rich everyone else, on 23-Dez-2004 at 21:55 you (Darrin Rich) wrote: http://www.webroot.com/products/spamshredder/ I haven't heard of that program until now, but I don't think there's a commercial spam filter that comes with that magic bit that makes it stand out from the other (and free) programs. For the private end user, it makes little sense to pay for a software that does the same as the freeware stuff (IMHO, of course). If you go for the free trial, go and compare it to the freeware K9 from http://www.keir.net at least (or SpamPal, or PopFile), then decide if you want to shelve out the $$$ ... :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using TB! v3.0.2.10 Home on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 Science is a world of most unlikely truths. And if we have found that it works, we have only to thank the imaginative courage of men who were willing to fly in the face of their five senses, from the day of Galileo, to the day of Einstein. -- Jacob Bronowski Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spam Shredder w/TB!
Hello Alexander, Thursday, December 23, 2004, 1:15:15 PM, you wrote: ASK I haven't heard of that program until now, but I don't think there's a ASK commercial spam filter that comes with that magic bit that makes it stand ASK out from the other (and free) programs. For the private end user, it makes ASK little sense to pay for a software that does the same as the freeware stuff ASK (IMHO, of course). Your probably correct. K9 worked very well and you cant beat it for the price :). ASK If you go for the free trial, go and compare it to the freeware K9 from ASK http://www.keir.net at least (or SpamPal, or PopFile), then decide if you ASK want to shelve out the $$$ ... :-) I think I will end up at least giving the trial version a go. One of the features that caught my eye is Access to Updated Databases As new spam originators are identified, Webroot adds them to the anti-spam database and offers you the opportunity to update your Spam Shredder database for the most thorough protection available. -- Best regards, Darrin Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 pgpS6oUPa6tMq.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: G-Mail... Again!
Hi On Thursday 23 December 2004 at 7:40:05 PM, Leif Gregory wrote: Hello AC, Thursday, December 23, 2004, 12:39:11 PM, you wrote: A If I take one, does this mean that I'll be caught in that cycle of A having all those invites to give out? :) Unfortunately, yes... It's getting bad. It used to be you'd only get invites every once in a while. Now you can't get rid of them fast enough. I accepted an invitation in early September and have only this week given out my first 4 invitations. -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SOT: Too busy Merry Xmas!
Hello Mica, True again. I am the Lord of my Time (touch, and knock on, wood), though your supposition that I am the author of this text is a compliment for me, since my English, still, is not that eloquent. My excuse for I forgot to put it in quotation marks, and author is not known to me as well. Looks like it's coming from here: http://www.gripe2ed.com/scoop/story/2004/12/16/234752/27 -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.6 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Deliplayer The Bat (was: Re: OT Re: Automating the sending of an e-mail of a backup)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 23 Dec 2004, @ @ at 21:30:12 +0100, when Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Deliplayer can create a textfile containing that information. You can fill it with whatever information that is available (either from tags or from the playlist - actually, you don't need precise file tags as you can manually enter information in the playlist), mine simply puts the above pre-formatted text with: Deliplayer2 is playing: ${songname}$if(${artist}){ by ${artist}}$if(${album}){ from the ${releasedate} album '${album}'} (this has to be configured in Deli's Client Control) Ah, I see. OK. Fine. The remaining magic is done with a quick template (thanks to Dan Grunberg) that is included in my signature (requires the XMP macro plugin): Aiii... The thing written in German, and I know about 30 words. OK, doesn't mind, if I managed to install the plugin for F-prot, I'll manage somehow with XMP as well. A thank to him, indeed. Lots of nice work, although I understand almost nothing. %IF(%XMP_FileSize(d:\sound\deliplayer2\dp2info.txt)1,%- %INCLUDE(d:\sound\deliplayer2\dp2info.txt),%- %WRAPPED(70,%COOKIE(E:\Text\Cookies\cookies.txt))%- (pathes need to be adjusted, of course) Ah, the beauty of macros and variables... :-) Yea, nice macros are poetry. Thanks. (-: What is Deliplayer2? Can I gogle right this name to get a d/l link? http://www.deliplayer.com (almost to easy, aye?). Aye. Getting it down to my cave, right in this moment. Danke. Its a very powerful player (it has its origins on the Amiga, plays over 200 formats, need I say more?), Nay. but its not offering the huge amount of eye candy in skins Only one skin is enough for all of us. and plugins like WinAmp, and it may not be as accessible as WinAmp is to the average user. Who needs plugins with a thing of 200+ formats? What is average user on a TB list? Just like TB, much of its real potential is hidden Good! I like hidden potentials. Actually I am a hidden potentials freak. Hidden potential is my middle name. (the GUI is totally modular, Excellent! I like modular things as well. We'll modulate. but you have to enable god mode configurability first, for example). I'll manage somehow to convince him too. No problem. Its lacking a real media library I do not need any media library, since I change it all the time. but the playlist is a very versatile replacement (I have all my music in the playlist). A play list is the right thing. I do this this way too. Play lists rock. 'nuff advertising. :-) (you may have guessed it, I am a registered Deli user and beta tester *g*). No, I hadn't such a guess even in a skirt of my mind, but I am honored to meet you under such festal {circum|cube}stances. Thanks. (-: And have a nice chubby turkey. (: - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast :crazy: [Earth LOG: 113 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OS: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) 9.1 UMSDOS Linux, and with Bochs 2.1.1 with a small DLX Linux; and, for TB sometimes Libranet (Linux) 2.8.1, via Cross Over Office -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFByz1o9q62QPd3XuIRAto7AKCP3MWaYscYmrVQcgsiq4s2d6/j7QCfS9It ZBMCKwMM3iXDvA5O8uxDOUI= =zqnY -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Changing Subject header (again)
ON Thursday, December 23, 2004, 7:06:38 PM, you wrote: QS Hello TBUDL, QS I want to archive certain NYTimes articles but I'd really like to QS change the Subject line to make the articles easily accessible. I QS know I need to export messages using some format, change the Subject QS header somehow, and import back into TB! somehow. I've tried various QS possibilities but none of them work. I'm hoping someone will give me QS step by step instructions. QS Also, what's the address of the TB! archives, Gmail and the other QS one? Quin, It depends on how much of the original msg must be persevered but you could use redirect also know as alternate forward. It will send the msg to an other email account of yours (does not have to be a real account as long as you use local delivery) but before you press the send button you can eddit the subject (or anything else for that matter) Even better would be to use forward with a specific custom template. This way you could possible automate the subject change. I hope this helps. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- On a recent survey, 80 percent of golfers admitted cheating. The other 20 percent lied. Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: G-Mail... Again!
Hello AC, A reminder of what AC Martin on TBUDL typed on: 23 December 2004 at 20:39:46 GMT +0100 AM If I take one, does this mean that I'll be caught in that cycle of AM having all those invites to give out? You don't have to give them away. Every time I do I get more. In fact I had three left and they added another 3 before I could get rid of them. Do you want one to play with? -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 23/12/2004 at 23:06 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 PGP Key http://www.theboomclan.com/pgp.txt pgp3tTAVy2nR1.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: G-Mail... Again!
Hello Leif, A reminder of what Leif Gregory on TBUDL typed on: 23 December 2004 at 20:43:45 GMT +0100 LG They should just open it up to self registration now. :-| No point, Allie is the only person on the planet that has refused an invite, everyone else already has 6 of their own :) -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 23/12/2004 at 23:08 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 PGP Key http://www.theboomclan.com/pgp.txt pgpUgriJGb4MR.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: G-Mail... Again!
Hello Peter, A reminder of what Peter Fjelsten on TBUDL typed on: 23 December 2004 at 21:16:17 GMT +0100 PF OK, I'll stop now - this whole GMail discussion should probably not PF start up again... Least not on TBUDL. -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 23/12/2004 at 23:10 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 PGP Key http://www.theboomclan.com/pgp.txt pgpmigCAbQnzi.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: G-Mail... Again!
On Thursday, December 23, 2004 at 6:08:21 PM [GMT -0500], Tony Boom wrote: You don't have to give them away. Every time I do I get more. In fact I had three left and they added another 3 before I could get rid of them. Do you want one to play with? I pass. I have my hands more than full trying to make TB! and ThunderBird work for me with IMAP. -- Cheers, -= Allie =- . I had a life once... now I have a computer and a modem. «·» IMAP Client: The Bat! v3.0.2.5 IMAP Server: MDaemon Pro · OS: Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2) smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: G-Mail... Again!
Hello Tony, On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:09:32 + GMT (24/12/2004, 06:09 +0700 GMT), Tony Boom wrote: LG They should just open it up to self registration now. :-| TB No point, Allie is the only person on the planet that has refused an invite, TB everyone else already has 6 of their own :) I don't have one... I could have if I wanted to. Seeing that all of you have so many that would be no problem. I just don't like them to parse my emails for marketing purposes. -- Cheers, Thomas. Si le travail c'est l'opium du peuple, alors je ne veux pas finir drogué...[ Boris Vian ] Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.2.4 Rush under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Common vs account filters
Hello George, On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 10:58:39 -0800 GMT (24/12/2004, 01:58 +0700 GMT), George Mitchell wrote: TF The message will end up in the main account (that's correct) but the TF filter in the sub account (assinging the colour group) will be TF ignored. This is confirmed by the log file, even though the common TF filter moving the message has Continue Processing... checked. GM I just replicated this as carefully as I could, and it works as GM expected. You mean it the message was colour-coded? (Not sure whether you mean you expected it to be coded or not.) GM The message is moved to a folder in account A by a common filter, The message first arrived in account B and was then moved by common filter to account A, right? GM and then assigned a color group by an account B filter. Yes, that's my setting, the colour group assigned by an account filter in the account into which the messages originally arrived. GM I'm at a loss. You've already answered just about all the questions I GM could think to ask. You don't indicate what version of TB! you're GM using, but a message from a few days ago indicates you're on 3.0.2.4. No, this is what I use at home (and write to TBUDL). In the office I use 3.0.1.33 under XP Pro, that's the one I am reporting about. GM I know at least one common filter bug has been fixed without being GM mentioned in the release notes, but I don't remember when. If GM you're brave you could try the latest. No betas in the office, thanks. ;-) I will post my previous message on TBBETA, and if it gets confirmed there, will open a bugreport. -- Cheers, Thomas. Nach polizeilichen Feststellung stand der Traktor unter Alkoholeinflus. Eine Blutprobe wurde angeordnet. * Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.2.4 Rush under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: G-Mail... Again!
Hello Peter, On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:13:27 +0100 GMT (24/12/2004, 03:13 +0700 GMT), Peter Fjelsten wrote: PF I simply do not get why people would want to get bombarded with ads in a PF potentially privacy infringing environment when you can get your own PF domain with e-mail for very few money. It's a marketing technique. If you get invited by a friend, you are more likely to subscribe and use that service than if they openend it for free registration on their website. You trust your friend, so you implicitely trust the product, and since it is not open but you need an invite, you feel like a member of an exclusive club. You also use the new email address with pride (so it's not like with many Yahoo addresses that never get used), and you actively invite other people thus pushing the product further. Gmail doesn't need to advertise, you do it all for them. Marketing has many aspects from psychology. -- Cheers, Thomas. I don't know the answer to the question you posted, but I think someone asked this question 18 years ago on the net. Don't remember if it got answered. Hope this helps! Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.2.4 Rush under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: G-Mail... Again!
On Thursday, December 23, 2004 at 8:58:19 PM [GMT -0500], Thomas Fernandez wrote: It's a marketing technique. If you get invited by a friend, you are more likely to subscribe and use that service than if they openend it for free registration on their website. You trust your friend, so you implicitely trust the product, and since it is not open but you need an invite, you feel like a member of an exclusive club. You also use the new email address with pride (so it's not like with many Yahoo addresses that never get used), and you actively invite other people thus pushing the product further. Gmail doesn't need to advertise, you do it all for them. Hmmm. You seem to be unto something there. I can certainly see that working very well as it seems to have. There's this rave about searching mail. I spend most of my time reading mail and not really searching for mail. Furthermore, most of my searches are done with TB!'s or ThunderBirds similar type quick search function. Anyway, YMMV, so who am I to say? -- Cheers, -= Allie =- . Useless Invention: Air-Bag for a motorcycle. «·» IMAP Client: The Bat! v3.0.2.5 IMAP Server: MDaemon Pro · OS: Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2) smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMAP folders disappear
Hello tbudl, I'm having folders disappear. They are on the server (evidenced by logging in with another client or webmail). Not sure exactly how/when they disappear - I just start noticing messages that should be getting filtered staying in the Inbox. I check the filter and re-filter the Inbox and nothing happens. Then I notice that the folder that the messages are being filtered to is gone. (happens to be TBOT folder). I cannot re-create the folder in TB because it exists on the server (error). First time this happened, I had to: 1. shut down TB 2. log in to my mailbox via webmail 3. move all messages from folder TBOT to the Inbox 4. delete the folder TBOT 5. re-started TheBat 6. created TBOT folder 7. re-filtered Inbox Not too bad to have to do once... but this happened again just now. :( Any ideas? -- Best regards, ken mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat Pro 3.0.1.33 Windows XP SP1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:G-Mail... Again!
Hello Allie, On Thu, 23 Dec 2004, at 21:10:27 [GMT -0500] (11:38 PM here) you wrote: my searches are done with TB!'s or ThunderBirds similar type quick search function. I've been looking at Thunderbird, looks fine but I ca't see why you would want to have it AND TB... Just curious. -- Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Watcher aka Bill DeVos - Random Quote: Dachshunds are really small crocodiles with fur. - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6 mQCPA0G35HIBbgEEALMndzJ2lVKRqV0QW/BF4d8goCFkb7B+ojnSBich4YL7db+O gmYvBbxu2oJBo/CCRZeDisYRPdRMFmTvsFqUvkuJOiXNvAkDiFCmIWYVJ0mBu8Es io7DNaxYggbd4uEtOd6OGuytuWea7Yb9+TJraQxG+anKVI8uqdf++W79nFLzABEB AAG0IVdhdGNoZXIgPHRoZS53YXRjaGVyQGJpZ2Zvb3QuY29tPokAlQMFEEG35HLX /vlu/ZxS8wEBroEEAIWxSsL3wrQWJwef4h9DtqTp8Gf05QQk3MYAOeT3myRCXYH4 MKkcHwarhgX9vDNmezf6GihJz6uKUaTzmOAWUPNGEpeG/l1or8+3+y75wYRms8Lg zu7qY2slrfydj4mdvG7T80VPPpjYQKSCJRHoqOstLnLgysF9WwAEXZ9aMYBp =VG8l -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- pgpSooxyqQIEk.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Common vs account filters
Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 10:58:39 -0800 GMT (24/12/2004, 01:58 +0700 TF GMT), George Mitchell wrote: GM I just replicated this as carefully as I could, and it works as GM expected. TF You mean it the message was colour-coded? (Not sure whether you mean TF you expected it to be coded or not.) Yes, it was assigned the specified color group. GM The message is moved to a folder in account A by a common filter, TF The message first arrived in account B and was then moved by common TF filter to account A, right? Yes. GM I know at least one common filter bug has been fixed without GM being mentioned in the release notes, but I don't remember when. GM If you're brave you could try the latest. TF No betas in the office, thanks. ;-) Smart move! TF I will post my previous message on TBBETA, and if it gets confirmed TF there, will open a bugreport. Can you reproduce the problem at home with 3.0.2.4? -- George Using The Bat! 3.0.2.8 on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html