Re[2]: Dispatch mail on the server

2004-12-23 Thread Ben Allen
Howdy Henk,

Thursday, December 23, 2004, 7:01:59 AM, Henk wrotened:

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HdB On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 01:42:39 +0100GMT (23-12-2004, 1:42 +0100, where I
HdB live), Mica wrote:

 ***^\ ._)~~
  ~( __ _o   Was another beautiful day, Thu, 23 Dec 2004,
@  @  at 01:05:59 +0100, when Henk de Bruijn wrote:

 I have 5 mailaccounts. With Poptray it is possible to check the
 server for all 5 accounts in one check.
 Is that also possible with the Bat! or do I have to use Ctrl-F2
 five times?

 Just Alt+F2 one time. And F11, once, for send all and receive all.

 One (or two) of the many bright sides of TB. (-:

HdB Thanks Mica, I am familiar with Alt-F2 (receive all) but I want to check 
the
HdB server first.

DO  you  mean  you  want  to  check  what mail is on the server before
deciding  what  to download? In that case in the account properties of
each  account  go  to  mail  management and tick the box marked invoke
automatically at each mail check.

Then when you hit Alt+F2 (in theory as I haven't tested this) the mail
dispatcher should pop up and allow you to choose what to download.

I think anyway




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Re: New Bayes spam plugin

2004-12-23 Thread Ciprian Trofin
 Tried it. For awhile, it gave me good results, but after a month or so, it
 started to miss spam. It also has (in my case) the very nasty habit to
 create log files whereever it likes.

W The location of the log files are configurable: Options - Preferences -
W Anti Spam - Click on plugin - Configure.

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Re: Dispatch mail on the server

2004-12-23 Thread Henk de Bruijn
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On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 08:47:41 +GMT (23-12-2004, 9:47 +0100, where I
live), Ben Allen wrote:

 Thursday, December 23, 2004, 7:01:59 AM, Henk wrotened:

...snip

HdB Thanks Mica, I am familiar with Alt-F2 (receive all) but I want to check 
the
HdB server first.

 DO  you  mean  you  want  to  check  what mail is on the server before
 deciding  what  to download? In that case in the account properties of
 each  account  go  to  mail  management and tick the box marked invoke
 automatically at each mail check.

 Then when you hit Alt+F2 (in theory as I haven't tested this) the mail
 dispatcher should pop up and allow you to choose what to download.

 I think anyway

That's it! Thanks Ben that's what I have been looking for.

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Re: Connection

2004-12-23 Thread Allie Martin
On Wednesday, December 22, 2004 at 9:06:26 PM [GMT -0500], Watcher
wrote:

 I disabled warnings, let's see how that goes, I DO want to hear if
 there is a real problem.

With these disabled you won't. :/ At least not when there are real
problems with TB! server poling. However, the errors heard while using
Windows will not lose their value.

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Re: SOT: Too busy Merry Xmas!

2004-12-23 Thread Gerard

ON Wednesday, December 22, 2004, 3:16:10 PM, you wrote:
MM ***^\ ._)~~
MM  ~( __ _o   Was another beautiful day, Wed, 22 Dec 2004,
MM@  @  at 14:00:52 +0100, when Andre Wichartz wrote:

MM With the holidays fast approaching and EULAs pretty much a fact of life,
MM please accept -- with no obligation, implied or implicit, on behalf of

Seriously snipped 

Mica, you must have far to much time on your hands but it is brilliant.

All the best to you and all on this list.


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Re: Dispatch mail on the server

2004-12-23 Thread Super
Was it 23. decembar 2004 when Henk wrote:

HdB Thanks Mica, I am familiar with Alt-F2 (receive all) but I want to check 
the
HdB server first.

At the account preferences go to Mail Management.
Check to auto-invoke the Message dispatcher at EACH mail check.
Finito! :)

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Re: Dispatch mail on the server

2004-12-23 Thread Mica Mijatovic
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   ***^\ ._)~~
 ~( __ _o   Was another beautiful day, Thu, 23 Dec 2004,
   @  @  at 08:47:41 +, when Ben Allen wrote:

 Henk wrotened:

HdBMica wrote:

 Henk de Bruijn wrote:

 I have 5 mailaccounts. With Poptray it is possible to check the
 server for all 5 accounts in one check.
 Is that also possible with the Bat! or do I have to use Ctrl-F2
 five times?

 Just Alt+F2 one time. And F11, once, for send all and receive all.

 One (or two) of the many bright sides of TB. (-:

HdB Thanks Mica, I am familiar with Alt-F2 (receive all) but I want to
HdB check the server first.

 DO you mean you want to check what mail is on the server before
 deciding what to download? In that case in the account properties of
 each account go to mail management and tick the box marked invoke
 automatically at each mail check.

Yes, if it is not checked, it is needed then. I assumed that Henk
already had this checked since he asked only about simultaneous working
with all accounts.

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Re: SOT: Too busy Merry Xmas!

2004-12-23 Thread Mica Mijatovic
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   ***^\ ._)~~
 ~( __ _o   Was another beautiful day, Thu, 23 Dec 2004,
   @  @  at 12:38:33 +0100, when Gerard wrote:

MM With the holidays fast approaching and EULAs pretty much a fact of
MM life, please accept -- with no obligation, implied or implicit, on
MM behalf of

 Seriously snipped 

True. We have to be seriously dedicated to something sometimes to avoid
unbalancing the Cosmos (we have to be One with) by (regular and
irregular) silliness. And vice versa. (-:

 Mica, you must have far to much time on your hands but it is
 brilliant.

True again. I am the Lord of my Time (touch, and knock on, wood), though
your supposition that I am the author of this text is a compliment for
me, since my English, still, is not that eloquent. My excuse for I
forgot to put it in quotation marks, and author is not known to me as
well.

 All the best to you and all on this list.

Thanks. I accompany my best wishes too. Let's all have nice turkey
evenings or of any other sorts of birds we can afford to to our reverend
and witty selves.

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Re[2]: copying msg with short headers

2004-12-23 Thread Peter Hampf
Hello Jan,

on Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:44:46 -0500 GMT your local time you wrote:

JR Hi Peter. Thanks so much! A wonderful Christmas present.

;-) I'm glad that you're satisfied.

JR Happy Holidays to you.

Same to you.

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Re: Dispatch mail on the server

2004-12-23 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Ben Allen  everyone else,

on 23-Dez-2004 at 09:47 you (Ben Allen) wrote:

 wrotened

...interesting verb form... :-)

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Re:Connection

2004-12-23 Thread Watcher
Hello Allie,

On Thu, 23 Dec 2004, at 05:55:00 [GMT -0500] (9:14 AM here) you wrote:

 With these disabled you won't. :/ At least not when there are real
 problems with TB! server poling. However, the errors heard while using
 Windows will not lose their value.

  Yea, that did what I needed, thanks for the assist 8^)

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Common vs account filters

2004-12-23 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello tbudl,

So I have a problem. You need two accounts to reproduce this:

I converted three of my over 100 filters in my main account to be
common filters which move messages to folders in the main account.
They used to work perfectly as account filters, and they still do
their job.

The account filters in the subsidiary account mark all messages with a
colour group. This works fine with message not caught by the common
filters. The sub account has only three filters, which I consider
irrrelevant for the moment.

Messages which arrive in the subsidiary account are moved by the
common filters to the main account as desired. However, they are *not*
colour-coded. The account filters are completely ignored. (The test I
did yesterday said differently, but I found out that was because I
moved some of the messages manually.)

Steps to reproduce:

1.) Don't use account filters in the main account. Switch them to be
common filters.

2.) Have an email arrive at the other (subsidiary) account.

3.) Use common filters to move messages to folders in the main
account.

4.) Have a filter in place in the sub account that assigns a colour
group.

The message will end up in the main account (that's correct) but the
filter in the sub account (assinging the colour group) will be
ignored. This is confirmed by the log file, even though the common
filter moving the message has Continue Processing... checked.

Is this a bug or am I trying something not intended? 9Val said that
the link to the message object will not be lost by moving.

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OT

2004-12-23 Thread Ron Cameron
Hello The Bat! Group,

I want to wish everyone HAPPY HOLIDAYS!

IMHO

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Re: Dispatch mail on the server

2004-12-23 Thread Mica Mijatovic
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Aahhh... so beautiful one! (: Was not known to me that he ever revealed
his methodology that much.

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Re: Common vs account filters

2004-12-23 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Thomas Fernandez  everyone else,

on 23-Dez-2004 at 16:14 you (Thomas Fernandez) wrote:

 Is this a bug or am I trying something not intended? 9Val said that
 the link to the message object will not be lost by moving.

Maybe it has to do with moving messages from one account to another, and
that the incoming filter for the account you're moving the messages to
will not be triggered - because they were incoming for another account.

It doesn't matter if it is a common filter or an account filter - once an
incoming filter was triggered thats it, and the continue processing
flag has no effect. You could say that messages are bound to the account
they're originally were received for.

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Changing Subject header (again)

2004-12-23 Thread Quin Selman
Hello TBUDL,

  I want to archive certain NYTimes articles but I'd really like to
  change the Subject line to make the articles easily accessible. I
  know I need to export messages using some format, change the Subject
  header somehow, and import back into TB! somehow. I've tried various
  possibilities but none of them work. I'm hoping someone will give me
  step by step instructions.

  Also, what's the address of the TB! archives, Gmail and the other
  one?

  Thanks.

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Re: Changing Subject header (again)

2004-12-23 Thread Dejan Milenkovic
On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:06:38 -0700, Quin Selman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I know I need to export messages using some format, change  the Subject 
 header somehow, and import back into TB! 
 somehow. 

That's exactly what I do sometimes. I export the message into some
temporary folder, open it in Notepad {I use Edxor] edit, save and then
import it back into TB!
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Re: Changing Subject header (again)

2004-12-23 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Quin,

Thursday, December 23, 2004, 11:06:38 AM, you wrote:
Q I want to archive certain NYTimes articles but I'd really like to
Q change the Subject line to make the articles easily accessible. I
Q know I need to export messages using some format, change the
Q Subject header somehow, and import back into TB! somehow. I've
Q tried various possibilities but none of them work. I'm hoping
Q someone will give me step by step instructions.

Just in case you didn't know. Have you tried putting the message in
the Outbox, opening it, edit the subject line, save it, and then move
the message to your archive folder?


Q   Also, what's the address of the TB! archives, Gmail and the other
Q   one?

The URL at the bottom of every message you receive from the TB lists
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Re: Common vs account filters

2004-12-23 Thread George Mitchell
Thomas Fernandez wrote:

TF So I have a problem. You need two accounts to reproduce this:

snip

TF The message will end up in the main account (that's correct) but the
TF filter in the sub account (assinging the colour group) will be
TF ignored. This is confirmed by the log file, even though the common
TF filter moving the message has Continue Processing... checked.

I just replicated this as carefully as I could, and it works as
expected.  The message is moved to a folder in account A by a common
filter, and then assigned a color group by an account B filter.

I'm at a loss.  You've already answered just about all the questions I
could think to ask.  You don't indicate what version of TB! you're
using, but a message from a few days ago indicates you're on 3.0.2.4.
I know at least one common filter bug has been fixed without being
mentioned in the release notes, but I don't remember when.  If you're
brave you could try the latest.

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G-Mail... Again!

2004-12-23 Thread Tony Boom

Hello Leif,

  A reminder of what Leif Gregory on TBUDL typed on:
  23 December 2004 at 19:22:40 GMT +0100

Q   Also, what's the address of the TB! archives, Gmail and the other
Q   one?

 Talking of which, I now have another 12, yes twelve more invites to give away.


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Re: G-Mail... Again!

2004-12-23 Thread AC Martin
Hi Tony Boom,
 On 23/12/2004 02:09 PM, you wrote:

 Talking of which, I now have another 12, yes twelve more invites to
 give away.

If I take one, does this mean that I'll be caught in that cycle of
having all those invites to give out? :)

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Re: G-Mail... Again!

2004-12-23 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello AC,

Thursday, December 23, 2004, 12:39:11 PM, you wrote:
A If I take one, does this mean that I'll be caught in that cycle of
A having all those invites to give out? :)

Unfortunately, yes... It's getting bad. It used to be you'd only get
invites every once in a while. Now you can't get rid of them fast
enough.

They should just open it up to self registration now. :-|


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Re: G-Mail... Again!

2004-12-23 Thread Allie
Hi Leif Gregory,
 On 23/12/2004 02:40 PM, you wrote:

 Unfortunately, yes... It's getting bad. It used to be you'd only get
 invites every once in a while. Now you can't get rid of them fast
 enough.
 
 They should just open it up to self registration now. :-|

One wonders why they didn't do that before.

It's horrendously popular it would seem.

Every application that polls servers for mail or potentially does so has
a plugin for GMail or has GMail support integrated.

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OT Re: Automating the sending of an e-mail of a backup

2004-12-23 Thread Mica Mijatovic
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   ***^\ ._)~~
 ~( __ _o   Was another beautiful day, Sat, 4 Dec 2004,
   @  @  at 10:54:12 +0100, when Alexander S. Kunz wrote:

 (Mica Mijatovic) wrote:

 Where the tags of yours disappeared? I love to talk with them.

 Human revision - if I post a oneliner and TB chose to add a 5-line tag, I
 remove it manually. :)

Ah, I understand. Would be cruel indeed. (-;

 ...and if I'm listening to music... well, you see
 whats happening then. :)

...and then after the cut sign:

 Deliplayer2 is playing: Rotating Minds by JFC
  from the 2000 album 'Ambient Diary III - CD 1'

But how do you get such a long title and even in two lines?? My Winamp
is crippling titles to some 40 characters. What is Deliplayer2? Can I
gogle right this name to get a d/l link?

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Re: G-Mail... Again!

2004-12-23 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Allie,

On 23-12-2004 20:48, you [A] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 They should just open it up to self registration now. :-|

A One wonders why they didn't do that before.

This is the biggest MLM-scheme I have seen for a long time over
something that to me is very ill-conceived for a lot of reasons.

I simply do not get why people would want to get bombarded with ads in a
potentially privacy infringing environment when you can get your own
domain with e-mail for very few money.

OK, I'll stop now - this whole GMail discussion should probably not
start up again... :)

A It's horrendously popular it would seem.

Horrendous is a very precise choice of words if you ask me... :)

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Deliplayer The Bat (was: Re: OT Re: Automating the sending of an e-mail of a backup)

2004-12-23 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Mica Mijatovic  everyone else,

on 23-Dez-2004 at 21:03 you (Mica Mijatovic) wrote:

 Deliplayer2 is playing: Rotating Minds by JFC
  from the 2000 album 'Ambient Diary III - CD 1'

 But how do you get such a long title and even in two lines??

Deliplayer can create a textfile containing that information. You can fill
it with whatever information that is available (either from tags or from
the playlist - actually, you don't need precise file tags as you can
manually enter information in the playlist), mine simply puts the above
pre-formatted text with:

Deliplayer2 is playing: ${songname}$if(${artist}){ by ${artist}}$if(${album}){
 from the ${releasedate} album '${album}'}

(this has to be configured in Deli's Client Control)

The remaining magic is done with a quick template (thanks to Dan
Grunberg) that is included in my signature (requires the XMP macro plugin):

 %IF(%XMP_FileSize(d:\sound\deliplayer2\dp2info.txt)1,%-
 %INCLUDE(d:\sound\deliplayer2\dp2info.txt),%-
 %WRAPPED(70,%COOKIE(E:\Text\Cookies\cookies.txt))%-

(pathes need to be adjusted, of course)

Ah, the beauty of macros and variables... :-)


 What is Deliplayer2? Can I gogle right this name to get a d/l link?

http://www.deliplayer.com (almost to easy, aye?). Its a very powerful
player (it has its origins on the Amiga, plays over 200 formats, need I say
more?), but its not offering the huge amount of eye candy in skins and
plugins like WinAmp, and it may not be as accessible as WinAmp is to the
average user.

Just like TB, much of its real potential is hidden (the GUI is totally
modular, but you have to enable god mode configurability first, for
example). Its lacking a real media library but the playlist is a very
versatile replacement (I have all my music in the playlist).

'nuff advertising. :-) (you may have guessed it, I am a registered Deli
user and beta tester *g*).

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Spam Shredder w/TB!

2004-12-23 Thread Darrin Rich
Hello TBUDL,

  I was considering trying this. Havent heard of anyone using this but
  I love a couple of other titles from this company (Spysweeper,
  WindowWasher)

  Anyone try it here? Im thinking of downloading the trial version.

  http://www.webroot.com/products/spamshredder/

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Re: Spam Shredder w/TB!

2004-12-23 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Darrin Rich  everyone else,

on 23-Dez-2004 at 21:55 you (Darrin Rich) wrote:

 http://www.webroot.com/products/spamshredder/

I haven't heard of that program until now, but I don't think there's a
commercial spam filter that comes with that magic bit that makes it stand
out from the other (and free) programs. For the private end user, it makes
little sense to pay for a software that does the same as the freeware stuff
(IMHO, of course).

If you go for the free trial, go and compare it to the freeware K9 from
http://www.keir.net at least (or SpamPal, or PopFile), then decide if you
want to shelve out the $$$ ... :-)

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Re: Spam Shredder w/TB!

2004-12-23 Thread Darrin Rich
Hello Alexander,

Thursday, December 23, 2004, 1:15:15 PM, you wrote:

ASK I haven't heard of that program until now, but I don't think there's a
ASK commercial spam filter that comes with that magic bit that makes it stand
ASK out from the other (and free) programs. For the private end user, it makes
ASK little sense to pay for a software that does the same as the freeware stuff
ASK (IMHO, of course).

Your probably correct. K9 worked very well and you cant beat it for
the price :).

ASK If you go for the free trial, go and compare it to the freeware K9 from
ASK http://www.keir.net at least (or SpamPal, or PopFile), then decide if you
ASK want to shelve out the $$$ ... :-)

I think I will end up at least giving the trial version a go. One of
the features that caught my eye is

Access to Updated Databases

As new spam originators are identified, Webroot adds them to the anti-spam 
database and
offers you the opportunity to update your Spam Shredder database for the most 
thorough
protection available.




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Re: G-Mail... Again!

2004-12-23 Thread MFPA


Hi

On Thursday 23 December 2004 at 7:40:05 PM, Leif Gregory wrote:

 Hello AC,

 Thursday, December 23, 2004, 12:39:11 PM, you wrote:
A If I take one, does this mean that I'll be caught in that cycle of
A having all those invites to give out? :)

 Unfortunately, yes... It's getting bad. It used to be you'd only get
 invites every once in a while. Now you can't get rid of them fast
 enough.

I accepted an invitation in early September and have only this
week given out my first 4 invitations.

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Re: SOT: Too busy Merry Xmas!

2004-12-23 Thread MAU
Hello Mica,

 True again. I am the Lord of my Time (touch, and knock on, wood), though
 your supposition that I am the author of this text is a compliment for
 me, since my English, still, is not that eloquent. My excuse for I
 forgot to put it in quotation marks, and author is not known to me as
 well.

Looks like it's coming from here:

http://www.gripe2ed.com/scoop/story/2004/12/16/234752/27

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Re: Deliplayer The Bat (was: Re: OT Re: Automating the sending of an e-mail of a backup)

2004-12-23 Thread Mica Mijatovic
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   ***^\ ._)~~
 ~( __ _o   Was another beautiful day, Thu, 23 Dec 2004,
   @  @  at 21:30:12 +0100, when Alexander S. Kunz wrote:

 Deliplayer can create a textfile containing that information. You can fill
 it with whatever information that is available (either from tags or from
 the playlist - actually, you don't need precise file tags as you can
 manually enter information in the playlist), mine simply puts the above
 pre-formatted text with:

 Deliplayer2 is playing: ${songname}$if(${artist}){ by 
 ${artist}}$if(${album}){
  from the ${releasedate} album '${album}'}

 (this has to be configured in Deli's Client Control)

Ah, I see. OK. Fine.

 The remaining magic is done with a quick template (thanks to Dan
 Grunberg) that is included in my signature (requires the XMP macro plugin):

Aiii... The thing written in German, and I know about 30 words. OK,
doesn't mind, if I managed to install the plugin for F-prot, I'll manage
somehow with XMP as well. A thank to him, indeed. Lots of nice work,
although I understand almost nothing.

  %IF(%XMP_FileSize(d:\sound\deliplayer2\dp2info.txt)1,%-
  %INCLUDE(d:\sound\deliplayer2\dp2info.txt),%-
  %WRAPPED(70,%COOKIE(E:\Text\Cookies\cookies.txt))%-

 (pathes need to be adjusted, of course)

 Ah, the beauty of macros and variables... :-)

Yea, nice macros are poetry. Thanks. (-:


 What is Deliplayer2? Can I gogle right this name to get a d/l link?

 http://www.deliplayer.com (almost to easy, aye?).

Aye. Getting it down to my cave, right in this moment. Danke.

 Its a very powerful player (it has its origins on the Amiga, plays
 over 200 formats, need I say more?),

Nay.

 but its not offering the huge amount of eye candy in skins

Only one skin is enough for all of us.

 and plugins like WinAmp, and it may not be as accessible as WinAmp is
 to the average user.

Who needs plugins with a thing of 200+ formats? What is average user on
a TB list?

 Just like TB, much of its real potential is hidden

Good! I like hidden potentials. Actually I am a hidden potentials freak.
Hidden potential is my middle name.

 (the GUI is totally modular,

Excellent! I like modular things as well. We'll modulate.

 but you have to enable god mode configurability first, for example).

I'll manage somehow to convince him too. No problem.

 Its lacking a real media library

I do not need any media library, since I change it all the time.

 but the playlist is a very versatile replacement (I have all my music
 in the playlist).

A play list is the right thing. I do this this way too. Play lists rock.

 'nuff advertising. :-) (you may have guessed it, I am a registered Deli
 user and beta tester *g*).

No, I hadn't such a guess even in a skirt of my mind, but I am honored
to meet you under such festal {circum|cube}stances. Thanks. (-:

And have a nice chubby turkey. (:

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Re: Changing Subject header (again)

2004-12-23 Thread Gerard

ON Thursday, December 23, 2004, 7:06:38 PM, you wrote:
QS Hello TBUDL,

QS   I want to archive certain NYTimes articles but I'd really like to
QS   change the Subject line to make the articles easily accessible. I
QS   know I need to export messages using some format, change the Subject
QS   header somehow, and import back into TB! somehow. I've tried various
QS   possibilities but none of them work. I'm hoping someone will give me
QS   step by step instructions.

QS   Also, what's the address of the TB! archives, Gmail and the other
QS   one?


Quin,

It depends on how much of the original msg must be persevered but you could use
redirect also know as alternate forward.
It will send the msg to an other email account of yours (does not have to be a
real account as long as you use local delivery) but before you press the send
button you can eddit the subject (or anything else for that matter)

Even better would be to use forward with a specific custom template. This way 
you
could possible automate the subject change.


I hope this helps.

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Re: G-Mail... Again!

2004-12-23 Thread Tony Boom
Hello AC,

  A reminder of what AC Martin on TBUDL typed on:
  23 December 2004 at 20:39:46 GMT +0100

AM If I take one, does this mean that I'll be caught in that cycle of
AM having all those invites to give out?  

 You don't have to give them away. Every time I do I get more. In fact I had
 three left and they added another 3 before I could get rid of them.

 Do you want one to play with?


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Re: G-Mail... Again!

2004-12-23 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Leif,

  A reminder of what Leif Gregory on TBUDL typed on:
  23 December 2004 at 20:43:45 GMT +0100

LG They should just open it up to self registration now. :-|

 No point, Allie is the only person on the planet that has refused an invite,
 everyone else already has 6 of their own :)


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Re: G-Mail... Again!

2004-12-23 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Peter,

  A reminder of what Peter Fjelsten on TBUDL typed on:
  23 December 2004 at 21:16:17 GMT +0100

PF OK, I'll stop now - this whole GMail discussion should probably not
PF start up again...  

 Least not on TBUDL.


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Re: G-Mail... Again!

2004-12-23 Thread Allie Martin
On Thursday, December 23, 2004 at 6:08:21 PM [GMT -0500], Tony Boom
wrote:

 You don't have to give them away. Every time I do I get more. In
 fact I had three left and they added another 3 before I could get
 rid of them.

 Do you want one to play with?

I pass. I have my hands more than full trying to make TB! and
ThunderBird work for me with IMAP.

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Re: G-Mail... Again!

2004-12-23 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Tony,

On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:09:32 + GMT (24/12/2004, 06:09 +0700 GMT),
Tony Boom wrote:

LG They should just open it up to self registration now. :-|

TB  No point, Allie is the only person on the planet that has refused an 
invite,
TB  everyone else already has 6 of their own :)

I don't have one... I could have if I wanted to. Seeing that all of
you have so many that would be no problem.

I just don't like them to parse my emails for marketing purposes.

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Re: Common vs account filters

2004-12-23 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello George,

On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 10:58:39 -0800 GMT (24/12/2004, 01:58 +0700 GMT),
George Mitchell wrote:

TF The message will end up in the main account (that's correct) but the
TF filter in the sub account (assinging the colour group) will be
TF ignored. This is confirmed by the log file, even though the common
TF filter moving the message has Continue Processing... checked.

GM I just replicated this as carefully as I could, and it works as
GM expected.

You mean it the message was colour-coded? (Not sure whether you mean
you expected it to be coded or not.)

GM The message is moved to a folder in account A by a common filter,

The message first arrived in account B and was then moved by common
filter to account A, right?

GM  and then assigned a color group by an account B filter.

Yes, that's my setting, the colour group assigned by an account filter
in the account into which the messages originally arrived.

GM I'm at a loss.  You've already answered just about all the questions I
GM could think to ask.  You don't indicate what version of TB! you're
GM using, but a message from a few days ago indicates you're on 3.0.2.4.

No, this is what I use at home (and write to TBUDL). In the office
I use 3.0.1.33 under XP Pro, that's the one I am reporting about.

GM I know at least one common filter bug has been fixed without being
GM mentioned in the release notes, but I don't remember when. If
GM you're brave you could try the latest.

No betas in the office, thanks. ;-)

I will post my previous message on TBBETA, and if it gets confirmed
there, will open a bugreport.

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Re: G-Mail... Again!

2004-12-23 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Peter,

On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:13:27 +0100 GMT (24/12/2004, 03:13 +0700 GMT),
Peter Fjelsten wrote:

PF I simply do not get why people would want to get bombarded with ads in a
PF potentially privacy infringing environment when you can get your own
PF domain with e-mail for very few money.

It's a marketing technique. If you get invited by a friend, you are
more likely to subscribe and use that service than if they openend it
for free registration on their website. You trust your friend, so you
implicitely trust the product, and since it is not open but you need
an invite, you feel like a member of an exclusive club. You also use
the new email address with pride (so it's not like with many Yahoo
addresses that never get used), and you actively invite other people
thus pushing the product further. Gmail doesn't need to advertise, you
do it all for them.

Marketing has many aspects from psychology.

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Re: G-Mail... Again!

2004-12-23 Thread Allie Martin
On Thursday, December 23, 2004 at 8:58:19 PM [GMT -0500], Thomas
Fernandez wrote:

 It's a marketing technique. If you get invited by a friend, you
 are more likely to subscribe and use that service than if they
 openend it for free registration on their website. You trust your
 friend, so you implicitely trust the product, and since it is not
 open but you need an invite, you feel like a member of an exclusive
 club. You also use the new email address with pride (so it's not
 like with many Yahoo addresses that never get used), and you
 actively invite other people thus pushing the product further. Gmail
 doesn't need to advertise, you do it all for them.

Hmmm. You seem to be unto something there. I can certainly see that
working very well as it seems to have.

There's this rave about searching mail. I spend most of my time
reading mail and not really searching for mail. Furthermore, most of
my searches are done with TB!'s or ThunderBirds similar type quick
search function.

Anyway, YMMV, so who am I to say?

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IMAP folders disappear

2004-12-23 Thread ken green
Hello tbudl,

I'm having folders disappear. They are on the server (evidenced by
logging in with another client or webmail). Not sure exactly how/when
they disappear - I just start noticing messages that should be getting
filtered staying in the Inbox. I check the filter and re-filter the
Inbox and nothing happens. Then I notice that the folder that the
messages are being filtered to is gone. (happens to be TBOT folder).

I cannot re-create the folder in TB because it exists on the server
(error).

First time this happened, I had to:

1. shut down TB
2. log in to my mailbox via webmail
3. move all messages from folder TBOT to the Inbox
4. delete the folder TBOT
5. re-started TheBat
6. created TBOT folder
7. re-filtered Inbox

Not too bad to have to do once... but this happened again just now. :(

Any ideas?

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Re:G-Mail... Again!

2004-12-23 Thread Watcher
Hello Allie,

On Thu, 23 Dec 2004, at 21:10:27 [GMT -0500] (11:38 PM here) you
wrote:

 my searches are done with TB!'s or ThunderBirds similar type quick
 search function.

  I've been looking at Thunderbird, looks fine but I ca't see why you
would want to have it AND TB... Just curious.

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Re: Common vs account filters

2004-12-23 Thread George Mitchell
Thomas Fernandez wrote:

TF On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 10:58:39 -0800 GMT (24/12/2004, 01:58 +0700
TF GMT), George Mitchell wrote:

GM I just replicated this as carefully as I could, and it works as
GM expected.

TF You mean it the message was colour-coded? (Not sure whether you mean
TF you expected it to be coded or not.)

Yes, it was assigned the specified color group.

GM The message is moved to a folder in account A by a common filter,

TF The message first arrived in account B and was then moved by common
TF filter to account A, right?

Yes.

GM I know at least one common filter bug has been fixed without
GM being mentioned in the release notes, but I don't remember when.
GM If you're brave you could try the latest.

TF No betas in the office, thanks. ;-)

Smart move!

TF I will post my previous message on TBBETA, and if it gets confirmed
TF there, will open a bugreport.

Can you reproduce the problem at home with 3.0.2.4?

-- 
George

Using The Bat! 3.0.2.8 on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2.



Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html