Re: getting nuts with filtering syntax ...aaarrrghhhh!

2005-07-11 Thread Mary Bull
Hello alien!

On Sunday, July 10, 2005, 10:26 PM, you wrote:

 PS: Why is everyone shy about RegExp in TB? I thought there would be
 more folks around here that could talk about this.

You might like to have a look at your TBUDL Welcome or your TBUDL
monthly missions statement:


TBUDL Mission statement

The  TBUDL  list  has  been set up for the purpose of discussing The
Bat! and how to use it. It is a community of users ready and able to
help  new  users  get to grips with some of the capabilities of this
flexible  email  client.  More  complex  issues are discussed on the
TBTECH list (see below for details). ...

The  TBTECH  list  has been set up for the purpose of discussing The
Bat!  and related issues that are of a more technical nature than is
catered  for  in  the TBUDL list. Such topics as Regular Expression,
RFC  content  and  compliance,  plug-in  programming,  Spell-checker
semantics,  3rd  party  software, ISP policy, Internet protocols and
anything else that would bore a beginner into leaving the TBUDL! ...
*

Please note that TBTECH has been set up for Such topics as Regular
Expression ... and that you can find out about subscribing to TBTECH
at http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html . This address is
in the footers of every post to TBUDL.

There are many of us who post and read here who do not know anything
about the use of Regular Expressions. I'm among them. Ever since the
New Filter System (v. 3.xx) has been in place, additionally, I have
had no need for them.

That's why I made no effort to answer your questions, but I thought
you might like for me to point you to TBTECH.

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Re: Continuing Lock-Ups in BAT 3.5.30 on XP

2005-07-11 Thread Bob Morris
G'day Chris,

Monday, July 11, 2005, 4:05:10 AM, you wrote:

 Do you have lots of filters or complicated filters?


No complicated filters, just one for Spam filtering (on a header field
added by K9) and one to steer my TBUDL mail into a separate folder.
These are both working fine with no lock-ups when triggered.  I have
tried disabling just in case but that didn't make any difference.
Thanks for the suggestion though.

By the way - the repair/re-install of The Bat! didn't make any
difference.

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 Bob
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Re: Continuing Lock-Ups in BAT 3.5.30 on XP

2005-07-11 Thread Bob Morris
G'day Alexander,

Sunday, July 10, 2005, 10:31:02 PM, you wrote:

 Did you disable your Antivirus entirely? If you haven't tried that
 yet, that would be my next step.

I'm a little reluctant to totally disable the AV as I have received
several viruses (my first ever) in mail during the past few days.  All
have been the same nasty, identified as - HTML-Phishbank.UN   I
suppose though that if I have to try this then at least using The Bat!
keeps me much safer than Outlook Express.


 Did you maybe just exclude TB's mail directory from the AV's on-access
 scanning? If so, maybe it helps to disable TB's temporary directory from
 the scanner, too. TB downloads all mail to a temporary directory and then
 imports it into its own messagebase. The path to exclude is in your user
 profile, the folder Local Settings\Temp.

Thank you - I didn't know about this particular temporary directory
(one more difference from my old 98SE) but did find that it was choked
with a couple of hundred TMP files, so I have cleared that out as well
- I seem to remember reading here some time back that an over
abundance of these files could cause The Bat! to have problems.  I'll
try excluding this directory and the Bat! mail directories from AV
scanning as the next step in searching for a solution. If that doesn't
work I'll try totally disabling the AV for a bit.

Thanks for your help.


-- 
 Bob Mo®®is
Monday, 11 July 2005
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Re[2]: getting nuts with filtering syntax ...aaarrrghhhh!

2005-07-11 Thread alien
Hi Mary,

Monday, July 11, 2005, 3:28:53 AM, you wrote:

 PS: Why is everyone shy about RegExp in TB? I thought there would be
 more folks around here that could talk about this.

 Please note that TBTECH has been set up for Such topics as Regular
 Expression ... and that you can find out about subscribing to TBTECH
 at http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html . This address is
 in the footers of every post to TBUDL.

 That's why I made no effort to answer your questions, but I thought
 you might like for me to point you to TBTECH.

Thanks for pointing that out, I didn't quite get that. My Welcome
message said TBTECH was for advanced users and I'm a beginner! :-)
I'll give it a try.

-- 
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Re: getting nuts with filtering syntax ...aaarrrghhhh!

2005-07-11 Thread Mary Bull
Hello alien!

On Monday, July 11, 2005, 7:45 AM, you wrote:

 That's why I made no effort to answer your questions, but I thought
 you might like for me to point you to TBTECH.

I'd like to make clear that I didn't bring TBTECH up because I thought
you were off-topic to TBUDL's mission; I thought that more
knowledgeable people might read your posts and you might get more
extensive help there. Although, there are a handful of regular users
of Regular Expressions (pun intended :) ) who do read TBUDL, including
the moderators. :)

 Thanks for pointing that out, I didn't quite get that. My Welcome
 message said TBTECH was for advanced users and I'm a beginner! :-)

You may be a beginner with The Bat!, but your posts make you sound
pretty knowledgeable to me so far as using computer software goes. :)

TBTECh doesn't get as much traffic as TBUDL. I read all three TB!
lists plus TBOT--it's become sort of a hobby to me. It isn't often
that I see a question there go unanswered, even with the lighter
traffic, so I'm hopeful you'll get some help.

 I'll give it a try.

Good luck.

-- 
Best regards,
Mary
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Re: Continuing Lock-Ups in BAT 3.5.30 on XP

2005-07-11 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Bob Morris  everyone else,

on 11-Jul-2005 at 12:43 you (Bob Morris) wrote:

 Thank you - I didn't know about this particular temporary directory
 (one more difference from my old 98SE) but did find that it was choked
 with a couple of hundred TMP files

That may very well be very TB chokes as well. :-) It wants to access a
message, the virusscanner blocks the file, TB can't work with the file.
Maybe we found it.


 Thanks for your help.

Let us know if it worked.


-- 
Best regards,
 Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981)

The known is finite, the unknown infinite. Intellectually, one could
stand on an islet in the midst of an illimitable ocean of
inexplicability. Our business in every generation is to reclaim a
little more land, to add to the extent and solidity of our
possessions. -- Thomas Henry Huxley



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Re: Active Account: I'm puzzled

2005-07-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Martin,

On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:35:29 +0200 GMT (01/07/2005, 00:35 +0700 GMT),
Martin Schuster wrote:

 However: whenever I create a new mail while one of my subfolders is
 selected in the folder list (no folder template defined!) the new mail
 is created with one of my other (secondary) accounts active.

Is that subfolder under the account from which the mail will be sent?
If not, this sounds like a bug.

 Isn't the active account the account that should be used as the one
 for new mails?

Yes, if you are in TB. If you are not in TB and for example click on a
mailto link on a website, the default account is used.

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Cheers,
Thomas.

Remember in prayer the many who are sick of our church and community.

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Trash handling

2005-07-11 Thread Munango-Keewati
Could someone please tell my how to get message deletion to work the
way I want it to?

When I delete a message from a folder, I want it to go to the Trash
folder and sit there for several weeks in case I need to retrieve it.

I've tried setting the various options in Account Properties, folder
properties, and Trash folder properties, so that it looks as though it
should work, but it doesn't. Messages deleted from a folder two or
three days ago are not findable in the Trash folder.

I get at least 100 messages per day, generally twice that; most are
deleted.  Several weeks ago I unchecked all my Trash folder properties
options, which logically should make every deleted message stay there
until I delete them by hand.  This evening I have 122 deleted messages
there, none older than July 9.  There should be a few thousand.

Any ideas what might be going on?  Thanks in advance.

-- 
Best,

M-K
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 A 



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Folder -- Watched By ??

2005-07-11 Thread Robert D.
For example, this group's messages are filtered to a folder called
The Bat!. If I do a Properties on this folder, there is, at the
bottom, a tab named Watched By ..

Nowhere can I find any idea what to do with this tab. Perhaps it is
something I would like to use but Help does not have it listed, even
in search mode.

Thanks

-- 

Regards,
Robert D.
_
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Re: Trash handling

2005-07-11 Thread Robert D.
Recently, Munango-Keewati squawked:

 Could someone please tell my how to get message deletion to work the
 way I want it to?



Yes, indeed ... I discovered that you are right and it was happening
to me.

But I fixed it.

Despite the Trash Folder's properties

there is also a check-box in the Account's Properties|Options tab
with the phrase Empty Trash Folder On Exit

When I unChecked this, THEN when I quit The Bat! the emails remain
inside the respective Account's Trash-Folder.

So, my problem was created by me, I hadn't looked everywhere. Mind
you, it is a bit ambiguous at times. So, I guess, the inner folder's
Properties are usurped by those of the respective Account's
properties?

Yuh, I guess so.

Anyway, this should help you.

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Robert D.
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