Re: Active Account: I'm puzzled
Hello Thomas, Sorry for the late answer, I was out. MS It is a free folder (it is under no account). But the fact that you MS are the first one who answers makes me feel like its not such an MS obvious bug. No, not obvious. I just highlighted a common folder (that's the technical term for the free folders) and hit Create New Message. A random account was chosen. MS Also it happens here every now and then only. Think I'll just deal MS with it. More important problems to solve for the TB-crew. True, but it is a bug nonetheless. If you open a bugreport, I will second it. I was curious and had a look in the registry under: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\Users Depot There are several keys named User #1, User #2,... and the account that was chosen automatically when clicking on a common folder was the User #1 account. So I changed order, and all works fine. Might have to do with the fact that I use TB on two computers accessing the same mailbase, and the registry keys User #X were different. Now they are the same, and everything is good. -- Martin TB! 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Log verbosity
Hello Mica, [smtp] logging=1 log=smtp.session I found out, it does not make a difference whether you write 'log=smtp.session', 'log=smtp.trace' or 'log=myLogFile.txt'. In each case a log file is provided with the appropriate name. @Mary Verbose log function is more recent, I think. The first I ever noticed it was about a month ago when Maxim called it to someone's attention. Are you sure? I found no reference to an verbose log function from Max in Mail archives, possibly I missed something. -- best regards Miroslav BAT-MAIL.DE.VU - http://bat-mail.de.vu News-Ticker: http://thebat.orgavision.de/bat-mail.xml Klipfolio Klip: http://thebat.orgavision.de/klipfolio Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Log verbosity
Hello Roelof, On Wednesday, July 13, 2005, you wrote: RO Those are the things that make it worth your while to visit tbbeta. RO There they come from the horse's mouth, err .. I mean from the RO development team. Sorry to drift OT, but to go back to another oft-trodden thread (can you tread a thread?), how much time can one spend on a productivity tool! I do *love* all the tinkering, but it sometimes has a seriously detrimental effect on my sleep and/or work. -- Nick Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Exporting all emails from address book
Hi Vili, Wednesday, July 13, 2005, 10:08:14 PM, you wrote: Two workarounds: 1. Save as VCF and pick the emails out of the file. 2. Address book, File, Print, Address list. Select some PDF writer and you can extract the text from the PDF, or select some Text only printer and redirect the output to a file... Thanks a lot, that's just what I was looking for. :-) -- thanks! alien .. Using The Bat! v3.5.26 on .. Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 - Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Annoyance: no message when overwriting view mode
Hello tbudl, We've got so many messages telling us we changed viewmode, save? and other important things. But I don't know how many times I messed up a viewmode by wanting to switch the viewmode, but instead... - right clicking on the list headers in list view - being not very concentrated because the baby is crying - moving my mouse down to the menu item Save viewmode to... and not reading those words - selecting the viewmode I wanted to switch to but instead overwriting it with the current viewmode ...just because there is no message popping up telling me I am going to overwrite a (possibly important) setting. Is anyone else also annoyed by this? Or am I the only dumbhead that does not read what's written on a menu item ;-) ? But it's just to similar looking to Menu-Folder-Folder View Mode . -- Martin TB! 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Log verbosity
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Wed, 13 Jul 2005, @ @ at 23:18:13 +0200, when Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Hello Chris everyone else, on 13-Jul-2005 at 22:59 you (Chris) wrote: And the apostrophe: account root folder is the same as accounts' root folder (the root folder of [all] the accounts). Now, account's root folder is different. The account's root folder is a sub-directory of the accounts' root folder. Confusing, eh? Well... It's is not, it isn't ain't, and it's it's, not its, if you mean it is. If you don't, it's its. Then too, it's hers. It isn't her's. It isn't our's either. It's ours, and likewise yours and theirs. (Oxford University Press, Edpress News) account (noun) | account's (possessive adjective) -- singular accounts (noun) | accounts' (possessive adjective) -- plural So, the apostrophe related to possessive adjectives only. (-: Nevertheless, I didn't pay attention to your initial typo and had grasped it as you _meant_, not as you wrote, that is as account's root directory. (-: Anyway, it didn't want to work due to the wrong settings syntax (it had to be log=smtp.session instead log=smtp.trace). - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://bardo.port5.com/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 316 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) Linux 9.1, and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector Linuxes via Wine... ~~~ For PM please use my full address as it is *exactly* given in my From|Reply To field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFC1kFs9q62QPd3XuIRAz5uAJ0QEWW6+p1vAO/PCMV6rQNBMZi66QCgm9+d moHKm2hIHWD94MEGpCLDhSg= =Owyy -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Log verbosity
On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 12:41:49 +0200, Mica Mijatovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, it didn't want to work due to the wrong settings syntax (it had to be log=smtp.session instead log=smtp.trace). I don't think thats the problem. I had mine set to smtp.log and it worked just fine. Odd. -- Alex. Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Log verbosity
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 14 Jul 2005, @ @ at 10:52:12 +0100, when Nick Dutton wrote: Hello Roelof, On Wednesday, July 13, 2005, you wrote: RO Those are the things that make it worth your while to visit tbbeta. RO There they come from the horse's mouth, err .. I mean from the RO development team. Sorry to drift OT, but to go back to another oft-trodden thread (can you tread a thread?), how much time can one spend on a productivity tool! I do *love* all the tinkering, but it sometimes has a seriously detrimental effect on my sleep and/or work. If it's a power tool then productivity might take really lots of time, which sometimes might mean a hoof in horse's mouth. Now...if your treading is closer to a trot, than to a gallop, or even to a canter...hmm, okay, it's another kind of mammal, you're right, OT, I can smell the smell of the (approaching?) fish.[1] [1] They really should wash this (shared?) thing up(out?) sometimes. At least once in a year. Who knows what they do with it... - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://bardo.port5.com/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 316 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) Linux 9.1, and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector Linuxes via Wine... ~~~ For PM please use my full address as it is *exactly* given in my From|Reply To field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFC1lDE9q62QPd3XuIRAw8HAJ9X7pDhDqa1b0DQqlAVCJkht13G9gCeO3vt O6WhRiV+addupIBYmyB4f7s= =0Zou -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Log verbosity
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 14 Jul 2005, @ @ at 11:33:36 +0200, when Miroslav Florensen wrote: Hello Mica, [smtp] logging=1 log=smtp.session I found out, it does not make a difference whether you write 'log=smtp.session', 'log=smtp.trace' or 'log=myLogFile.txt'. In each case a log file is provided with the appropriate name. Oops! You are right. A file smtp.trace has already been created with the appropriate SMTP trace data, and I had overseen that. So, my apology and cigars to all. (-: Lollipops back of course. Gentlemen, please... - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://bardo.port5.com/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 316 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) Linux 9.1, and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector Linuxes via Wine... ~~~ For PM please use my full address as it is *exactly* given in my From|Reply To field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFC1kjx9q62QPd3XuIRA90PAKCZ9/aZimR6WibUZf9dJo9HgqsAJQCgneUg xCeLxy+WzNfhSEyH3NYAv54= =B6/w -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Annoyance: no message when overwriting view mode
Hello Martin, Thursday, July 14, 2005, 5:18:21 AM, you wrote: We've got so many messages telling us we changed viewmode, save? and other important things. But I don't know how many times I messed up a viewmode by wanting to switch the viewmode, but instead... Options/Preferences/Messages/Viewmodes. There are options at the bottom that allow you to ignore changes to viewmodes. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Log verbosity
Hello Miroslav! On Thursday, July 14, 2005, 4:33 AM, you wrote: @Mary Verbose log function is more recent, I think. The first I ever noticed it was about a month ago when Maxim called it to someone's attention. Are you sure? I found no reference to an verbose log function from Max in Mail archives, possibly I missed something. This was on the TBBETA list. And, Maxim did not say it was a recent option. It was simply the first time that I had noticed it in Account/Properties/Options. I'm in that window rather frequently, telling TB! to check mail periodically, or not to check mail periodically. Turns out to be about two months ago, not one month. Time flies in my old brain. :) Here's the mid for Maxim Masiutin's post to TBBETA, on May 5, 2005: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Log verbosity
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 14 Jul 2005, @ @ at 14:09:39 +0200, when Alexander S. Kunz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 12:41:49 +0200, Mica Mijatovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, it didn't want to work due to the wrong settings syntax (it had to be log=smtp.session instead log=smtp.trace). I don't think thats the problem. I had mine set to smtp.log and it worked just fine. Odd. The fault on (and happily not by) my side which is not odd then, since I make mistakes too. (-: The reason I took back my lollipops and delivered cigars. - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://bardo.port5.com/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 316 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) Linux 9.1, and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector Linuxes via Wine... ~~~ For PM please use my full address as it is *exactly* given in my From|Reply To field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFC1mOx9q62QPd3XuIRA2r1AJwJjR8Dsh8VZddVOrrbeVDpzVJlVwCgj/Wv IQ1PvEAV2Ldl61baQ5uzhFE= =AxEV -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Annoyance: no message when overwriting view mode
Hello Stuart, We've got so many messages telling us we changed viewmode, save? and other important things. But I don't know how many times I messed up a viewmode by wanting to switch the viewmode, but instead... Options/Preferences/Messages/Viewmodes. There are options at the bottom that allow you to ignore changes to viewmodes. Seems like my English is a little out of training, and I described my problem in a totally wrong way...so you misunderstood. My problem is *not* that I get a message when I changed the setting of a specific view mode, but that I get *no* message, when I select Save viewmode as - which overwrites the viewmode you select then with the current settings. -- Martin TB! 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Log verbosity
Hello, Here's the mid for Maxim Masiutin's post to TBBETA, on May 5, 2005: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks Mary, I overlooked this message and also overlooked these verbose log settings. -- Best regards Miroslav BAT-MAIL.DE.VU - http://bat-mail.de.vu News-Ticker: http://thebat.orgavision.de/bat-mail.xml Klipfolio Klip: http://thebat.orgavision.de/klipfolio Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Sending Mail automatically using TB
Hi all, I am a new user to TB and although I subscribed to this mailing list about three years ago this is my first post. My setup is as follows; I have TB 3.5.30 with one account which is pointing at our Exchange 2003 server (using MAPI) . The account will send and receive messages fine without any problems, including automatically downloading messages from the mailbox based on a schedule. However I cannot seem to get TB to send emails automatically as a result of using the SortingOffice. I have a filter which generates an automatic message, this message is placed in the outbox, however nothing I do, short of a manual Send queued mail will get that message to send automatically. I have tried setting the Send generated messages to immediately in the filter options as well as setting up a Send/Receive event using the Scheduler. The event seems to run but the mail remains in the outbox. Am I missing something very obvious? Any help would be most appreciated. thanks, Paul Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sending Mail automatically using TB
Hello paul, On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 16:19:55 +0100 GMT (14/07/2005, 22:19 +0700 GMT), paul meathrel wrote: pm I am a new user to TB and although I subscribed to this pm mailing list about three years ago this is my first post. Nice to read you. pm My setup is as follows; I have TB 3.5.30 with one account which is pm pointing at our Exchange 2003 server (using MAPI) . You are using a beta version. I remember that there was work on the competibility with Exchange in this beta cycle. Check whether the problem persists with the current release version. -- Cheers, Thomas. I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.51 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sending Mail automatically using TB
Hello Thomas! On Thursday, July 14, 2005, 10:42 AM, you wrote: pm My setup is as follows; I have TB 3.5.30 with one account which is pm pointing at our Exchange 2003 server (using MAPI) . You are using a beta version. I remember that there was work on the competibility with Exchange in this beta cycle. Check whether the problem persists with the current release version. Version 3.5.30 is on the public download page as a Post-release fix. http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php You are correct that the Exchange problems persist in that fix. As they do also in beta 3.5.36 and beta 3.51, according to the recent reports of Exchange users on TBBETA. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sending Mail automatically using TB
Hello Mary, On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 10:56:10 -0500 GMT (14/07/2005, 22:56 +0700 GMT), Mary Bull wrote: MB Version 3.5.30 is on the public download page as a Post-release fix. Gee, I only looked at the footer in this list and thought 3.51 was the current release. Thanks for pointing this out. -- Cheers, Thomas. Never give yourself a haircut after three margaritas. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.51 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sending Mail automatically using TB
Thanks for the prompt reply Thomas. Which is the current release version? All I did was go to www.ritlabs.com and click on download and selected the current version of TB Pro. Looking at the release date I should have guessed that it was a beta although there is nothing on the web page, installer or program to indicate that it is a beta version. Where can I go to download the current released version? thanks, Paul On Thu Jul 14 16:42 , Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: Hello paul, On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 16:19:55 +0100 GMT (14/07/2005, 22:19 +0700 GMT), paul meathrel wrote: pm I am a new user to TB and although I subscribed to this pm mailing list about three years ago this is my first post. Nice to read you. pm My setup is as follows; I have TB 3.5.30 with one account which is pm pointing at our Exchange 2003 server (using MAPI) . You are using a beta version. I remember that there was work on the competibility with Exchange in this beta cycle. Check whether the problem persists with the current release version. -- Cheers, Thomas. I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.51 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sending Mail automatically using TB
Thanks for the reply Mary. Are there any others using Exchange who have a work around? Could I use IMAP4 or POP3 to achieve the same thing using Exchange? On Thu Jul 14 16:56 , Mary Bull [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: Hello Thomas! On Thursday, July 14, 2005, 10:42 AM, you wrote: pm My setup is as follows; I have TB 3.5.30 with one account which is pm pointing at our Exchange 2003 server (using MAPI) . You are using a beta version. I remember that there was work on the competibility with Exchange in this beta cycle. Check whether the problem persists with the current release version. Version 3.5.30 is on the public download page as a Post-release fix. http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php You are correct that the Exchange problems persist in that fix. As they do also in beta 3.5.36 and beta 3.51, according to the recent reports of Exchange users on TBBETA. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Cut mark (was: Sending Mail automatically using TB)
Hello paul, Thursday, July 14, 2005, 9:19:55 AM, you wrote: Paul Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out paul. ' Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without the signature and list footers since everything below and including the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter in your templates. Even if you barely have a signature to speak of, that doesn't make any difference to whether or not you need a cut mark. You are being courteous to other readers since at least three lines of text is added to your signature by the list server. ... and, no, we can't add the cut mark to the list footer on the server because when there are 2 cut marks in a message, only the last is used. So that would penalize those that *do* correctly use a cut mark To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- __ TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x6C0AB16B ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons Smileys:http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PHP Tutorials and snippets:http://www.DevTek.org Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sending Mail automatically using TB
Hello Paul! On Thursday, July 14, 2005, 11:04 AM, you wrote: Thanks for the reply Mary. Are there any others using Exchange who have a work around? Could I use IMAP4 or POP3 to achieve the same thing using Exchange? It does seem as if the problems do lie with MAPI. However, IMAP is also in a cleaning up problems stage of beta testing. Don't understand, myself, about what happens when one uses POP3 with Exchange, since I don't do that, and have never used Exchange. Although my accounts are *indeed* POP3 accounts. Why don't you go to the Silverstones address in the footers of the posts to TBUDL and sign up for a TBBETA account and then register as a beta tester? Once you've done that, you can try out v. 3.51. Caution: we're having a little trouble with a charset bug in v. 3.51 at present. V. 3.51 is chiefly v. 3.36 in an .msi wrap. Once you're signed up as a beta tester and are reading the TBBETA list (not the same procedures--you can subscribe to TBBETA without being a beta tester), you will have a password and access to download the current or previous betas. HTH. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sending Mail automatically using TB
Hello Mary Bull everyone else, sorry to break into this thread, but I wonder whats going on... OK, Paul seems to use a mailer that can't thread propperly, but your reply should thread propperly... which it doesn't do! Hu?!? How can everyone get a different message ID? Paul's Message-Id is [EMAIL PROTECTED], but your Reference in the reply is [EMAIL PROTECTED], and Leif's Reference is [EMAIL PROTECTED] but the message he's moderated is [EMAIL PROTECTED] here. What the... ? How can Paul's message have a different ID on your machine than on mine? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: Axonic (7:04) by Purple from the 2000 album 'The Warp Experience' Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sending Mail automatically using TB
Hello Alexander! On Thursday, July 14, 2005, 11:58 AM, you wrote: What the... ? How can Paul's message have a different ID on your machine than on mine? No idea. I just did my normal Reply from the toolbar button. Another bug in beta v. 3.51? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sending Mail automatically using TB
Hi Alexander, on Thu, 14 Jul 2005 18:58:55 +0200GMT (14.07.2005, 18:58 +0200GMT here), you wrote: ASK Hello Mary Bull everyone else, ASK sorry to break into this thread, but I wonder whats going on... OK, Paul ASK seems to use a mailer that can't thread propperly, but your reply should ASK thread propperly... which it doesn't do! Hu?!? ASK How can everyone get a different message ID? ASK Paul's Message-Id is [EMAIL PROTECTED], but your ASK Reference in the reply is ASK [EMAIL PROTECTED], and ASK Leif's Reference is [EMAIL PROTECTED] but the message ASK he's moderated is [EMAIL PROTECTED] here. The MIDs are different here yet again. The last two characters before the @ differ. ASK What the... ? How can Paul's message have a different ID on your machine ASK than on mine? No exact idea, but it /feels/ like this is something done serverside. I don't believe that The Bat! mungles MIDs. -- Cheers Peter It is now possible for a flight attendant to get a pilot pregnant. - Richard J. Ferris, president of United Airlines Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sending Mail automatically using TB
Hallo Alexander, On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 18:58:55 +0200GMT (14-7-2005, 18:58 +0200, where I live), you wrote: ASK What the... ? How can Paul's message have a different ID on your machine ASK than on mine? That's rather easy. He doesn't add a Message-ID to his messages. Therefore on of the smtp servers down the road does it. To be more exact: it's being done by a server that calls itself 'thrall' Unfortunately that server gets the mail after it's being processed by the list server, therefor everybody gets a message with a different Message-ID. The easiest solution for this would be that Paul would start to use a client that's RFC compliant. In this case that would mean that it inserts a Message-ID. -- Groetjes, Roelof Postscript: The only thing of interest in some letters. The Bat! 3.51 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgphcjQ6PngGC.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sending Mail automatically using TB
Hello Alexander, On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 18:58:55 +0200 GMT (14/07/2005, 23:58 +0700 GMT), Alexander S. Kunz wrote: ASK Leif's Reference is [EMAIL PROTECTED] but the message ASK he's moderated is [EMAIL PROTECTED] here. ASK What the... ? How can Paul's message have a different ID on your machine ASK than on mine? Yes, it can. When the email client does not supply a message ID, the last receiving SMTP server (yours) will supply one. Thus, everybody gets a different MID for the same message. I didn't actually check whether this is what happened here, but Leif's mod-post didn't thread either. -- Cheers, Thomas. When you come to a fork in the road, take it! (Yogi Berra) Message reply created with The Bat! 3.51 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sending Mail automatically using TB
Hello paul, On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 17:00:04 +0100 GMT (14/07/2005, 23:00 +0700 GMT), paul meathrel wrote: pm Thanks for the prompt reply Thomas. Which is the current release pm version? 3.51, according to the list footer. But Mary said that's not true. I downloaded it from here: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/thebat_pro_3-51.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/thebat_home_3-51.msi pm All I did was go to www.ritlabs.com and click on download and pm selected the current version of TB Pro. You did the right thing. By the way, the email program you are using doesn't thread properly. The mods won't trout you for it, but I thought you'd like to know. -- Cheers, Thomas. Das Kaspische Meer ist eigentlich kein Meer, sondern bloss ein See, denn es ist von allen Seiten von Wasser umflossen. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.51 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sending Mail automatically using TB
Hello Mary, On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 11:40:25 -0500 GMT (14/07/2005, 23:40 +0700 GMT), Mary Bull wrote: MB However, IMAP is also in a cleaning up problems stage of beta MB testing. Don't understand, myself, about what happens when one uses MB POP3 with Exchange, since I don't do that, and have never used MB Exchange. Although my accounts are *indeed* POP3 accounts. I used TB on an exchange server in the 1.xx times, and it worked fine. Trick was, the sysad had to allow POP access. The current issue in the beta cycle is about MAPI access to Exchange servers, not IMAP. -- Cheers, Thomas. Why do people give each other flowers? To celebrate various important occasions, they're killing living creatures? Why restrict it to plants? Sweetheart, let's make up. Have this deceased squirrel. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.51 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sending Mail automatically using TB
Hello Roelof, On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 19:21:42 +0200 GMT (15/07/2005, 00:21 +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: RO The easiest solution for this would be that Paul would start to use a RO client that's RFC compliant. In this case that would mean that it RO inserts a Message-ID. Not really. Mails sent without MID are still RFC-compliant. -- Cheers, Thomas. The closest I ever got to a 4.0 in high school was my blood alcohol content. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.51 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sending Mail automatically using TB
Hello Thomas! On Thursday, July 14, 2005, 12:23 PM, you wrote: pm Thanks for the prompt reply Thomas. Which is the current release pm version? 3.51, according to the list footer. ... I don't know why Marck put that footer; to the best of my knowledge, RitLabs has not yet put v. 3.51 on the public download page as a Post-release fix. ... But Mary said that's not true. Go here, read what it says--click on Download, the dialogue window will also say 3.5.30. http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php Maxim has not yet put our buggy 3.51 on the public download page. I downloaded it from here: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/thebat_pro_3-51.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/thebat_home_3-51.msi I think those addresses are on the beta downloads announcements on TBBETA. They are not yet on the public RitLabs website. pm All I did was go to www.ritlabs.com and click on download and pm selected the current version of TB Pro. You did the right thing. Yes, he did. But I just checked, and 3.51 is available without a password from the URLs that you gave, above, Thomas. By the way, the email program you are using doesn't thread properly. The mods won't trout you for it, but I thought you'd like to know. I hope he'll soon start posting to us from The Bat! -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sending Mail automatically using TB
Hello Thomas! On Thursday, July 14, 2005, 12:28 PM, you wrote: MB However, IMAP is also in a cleaning up problems stage of beta MB testing. Don't understand, myself, about what happens when one uses MB POP3 with Exchange, since I don't do that, and have never used MB Exchange. Although my accounts are *indeed* POP3 accounts. I used TB on an exchange server in the 1.xx times, and it worked fine. Trick was, the sysad had to allow POP access. I hope the developers are getting close to removing the bugs from the current MAPI/Exchange code, for the sake of all who need it. The current issue in the beta cycle is about MAPI access to Exchange servers, not IMAP. I understand. I just mentioned that IMAP has some bugs yet, for Paul m.'s sake, that he not be expecting trouble-free IMAP, either--since he *did* ask me about it. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Log verbosity
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 14 Jul 2005, @ @ at 13:13:55 +0200, when Mica Mijatovic wrote: [...] Oops! You are right. A file smtp.trace has already been created with the appropriate SMTP trace data, and I had overseen that. Man vs Apostrophes these days... Should have been hadn't overseen instead. - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://bardo.port5.com/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 316 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) Linux 9.1, and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector Linuxes via Wine... ~~~ For PM please use my full address as it is *exactly* given in my From|Reply To field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFC1osk9q62QPd3XuIRA1s+AJ0bnZouFde3uiisK2cXPPRmBZuVCQCfZ01o SZ0fLf7QTm68cblltrlGMvE= =TWpY -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Log verbosity
Hello Mica! On Thursday, July 14, 2005, 10:56 AM, you wrote: Should have been hadn't overseen instead. Overlooked. Overlooked feels more idiomatic than overseen over here. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Folder -- Watched By ??
Hi On Wednesday 13 July 2005 at 12:51:45 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Mary Bull wrote: It's about filtering certain incoming mail to a virtual (chat) folder. Not just a chat folder. Any virtual folder watches other folders (and displays messages in those folders that match the filter you have set for the virtual folder). You can select which folders a virtual folder watches in the properties dialog of the virtual folder. You can also select which virtual folders a folder is watched by in the properties dialog of that folder. -- Best regards, MFPA A bird in the hand makes it awfully hard to blow your nose Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Folder -- Watched By ??
Hello MFPA! On Thursday, July 14, 2005, 3:14 PM, you wrote: It's about filtering certain incoming mail to a virtual (chat) folder. Not just a chat folder. Any virtual folder watches other folders (and displays messages in those folders that match the filter you have set for the virtual folder). You can select which folders a virtual folder watches in the properties dialog of the virtual folder. You can also select which virtual folders a folder is watched by in the properties dialog of that folder. Thanks for clarifying. When you click on Specials/Watch Replies In/New Watch Replies Folder, the Dialogue box comes up with the name Chat folder. Since I had never taken any interest in the Watch Replies function until I decided to respond to this thread, and I don't know a thing about chat either, I obviously made a wrong assumption. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
OT Social fish WAS--Re: Log verbosity
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 14 Jul 2005, @ @ at 14:33:24 -0500, when Mary Bull wrote: Hello Mica! On Thursday, July 14, 2005, 10:56 AM, you wrote: Should have been hadn't overseen instead. Overlooked. Overlooked feels more idiomatic than overseen over here. :) Ah, Mary dear, how it feels over _where_. (-: If I'd had to track all the sorts and kinds of English of the people I communicate with in order to adapt to their respective idioms, I would have to have 6 heads and 17 hands. Hence I am focused on the indispensable, in order to drive the sense (nut) to where it has to come -- the grammar. All the rest is a maelstrom around, of words and idioms I picked up from all these heres, and whens, so what is catching you is this what it is. (-: My mind has to work after hours, like a fast typist which I am, in this regard, and I doubt that I'll ever have some homogenous idiomatic style. Important for me is not to get into idiotic one, though, for _that_ would be pity, for a guy as I am. (: Wasn't watched/supervised (carefully), that's what I wanted to say, but nevertheless, all your comments are well came and arrived, being informative and thus useful to me. Thanks! Now I'll catafling this missive into the OT realm too, just in case, and out of a cunning manners, or they could stink us up with this unwashed and social (as in social care) fish of theirs (it was just used on a top-poster, eek). The time for a night skate ride and the fresh air, bye... - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://bardo.port5.com/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 317 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) Linux 9.1, and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector Linuxes via Wine... ~~~ For PM please use my full address as it is *exactly* given in my From|Reply To field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFC1vX99q62QPd3XuIRAy7yAJ9foWS+FrFyrkxhYPRutL8UWR5pyACcC4x3 VLD7LDBppBLNzj8JHwDdajE= =/DKu -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
