Re: Version Numbers
Hallo Roman, On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 21:25:59 -0400GMT (27-7-2005, 3:25 +0200, where I live), you wrote: Is 3.51 later than 3.5.26 please? Yes. The version numbering system was changed a little bit. Quoting developer 9Val from the beta list: RK And where does 3.5.30 fit in? Between 3.5.26 and 3.51 -- Groetjes, Roelof It is dangerous to confuse children with angels. The Bat! 3.51.10 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgp6FNwcWge8B.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problem using reply To when replying. (ping Mark Pearlstone!)
Hi Bat! Fans, (and Mark). Using 5.1 Pro at work through MDaemon mail server 8.1, which now has some sort of sender verification which I am trying to get my head around. Problem is however, that in 90% of cases, using Reply to icon. or selecting text with F4, an unacceptable To: address is created. For example in the headers, an actual sender is (as Reply to) Tony Standley [EMAIL PROTECTED] When I reply, Bat!, no doubt after MDaemon has fiddled with the message, puts the following in the To field:- Tony Standley Of course this address is unacceptable. MDaemon is actually adding some headers at the bottom of the message showing simply: From I am using the following macro for all replies: %BCC=%BCC=[EMAIL PROTECTED]%- %OFromFName, Is there a macro that will pick up the address in the from the headers before the MDaemon stripped address? Strangely, some address still work ok. Mark, do you know of a work around for this? You da MDaemon man! (I have written to MDaemon as well for support, but I fear that they may blame Bat! All worked fine until MDaemon upgraded to 8.1) -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v3.51.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 My other computer is an abacus. Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem using reply To when replying. (ping Mark Pearlstone!)
Dear John, @27-Jul-2005, 20:30 +1000 (27-Jul 11:30 UK time) John Phillips [JP] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: JP Using 5.1 Pro at work through MDaemon mail server 8.1, which now JP has some sort of sender verification which I am trying to get my JP head around. Sadly, my upgrade protection ran out at 8.03 and I don't have 8.1 to test this with. ... snip JP When I reply, Bat!, no doubt after MDaemon has fiddled with the JP message, puts the following in the To field:- What fiddling does MDaemon do? It shouldn't touch the RFC headers at all. Add some, maybe. Add routing headers, sure. But not fiddle with Reply-to. Are you using the Force reply to option in the miscellaneous configuration thingies? JP MDaemon is actually adding some headers at the bottom of the message JP showing simply: From That's just plain wrong! It shouldn't. Have you ticked the Fix missing from header (Outlook bug) option? If so, maybe don't? ... snip JP (I have written to MDaemon as well for support, but I fear that JP they may blame Bat! They shouldn't. If it worked before and their upgrade broke it - they need to know that's their fault. Beside, they have a lot of bat people using their product and they know it. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.51.10 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpZFQ0yniHMm.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem using reply To when replying. (ping Mark Pearlstone!)
Hi Marck, On Wed, 27 Jul 2005, at 11:45:04 [GMT+0100] (which was 20:45:04 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: They shouldn't. If it worked before and their upgrade broke it - they need to know that's their fault. Beside, they have a lot of bat people using their product and they know it. Thanks Mark, maybe I should wait for them. -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v3.51.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Does Bad FAT mean disk has high cholesterol? Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: how long to unsubscribe?
Dear Dave, @27-Jul-2005, 05:57 -0500 (27-Jul 11:57 UK time) Dave Gorman [DG] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: DG Yesterday I sent TBBETA TBUDL unsubscribe requests to the address in the DG headers. I am still receiving list mail. How long does it usually take for DG unsubscribe requests to be completed? Requesting an unsub involves getting a confirmation from the server that it's you and that you mean it. Once you reply to that, you are gone. Instantly. If you have a rampant spam engine at work protecting you from things it thinks you don't need, you may not have seen the confirm messages. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.51.10 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpT63RujXAUZ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: how long to unsubscribe?
Hallo Dave, On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 05:57:00 -0500GMT (27-7-2005, 12:57 +0200, where I live), you wrote: DG Yesterday I sent TBBETA TBUDL unsubscribe requests to the address in the DG headers. I am still receiving list mail. How long does it usually take for DG unsubscribe requests to be completed? Within minutes you should get a message that somebody using your address tried to unsubscribe and that you've got to confirm that request. After your confirmation is processed (another couple of minutes) you're out. -- Groetjes, Roelof The longer the title, the less important the job. The Bat! 3.51.10 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpRa4HP6mS1b.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
how long to unsubscribe?
Yesterday I sent TBBETA TBUDL unsubscribe requests to the address in the headers. I am still receiving list mail. How long does it usually take for unsubscribe requests to be completed? -- Dave Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using a Read Messages filter
ON Monday, July 25, 2005, 8:49:03 PM, you wrote: PM Ok, I did have the option selected, although after your reply I PM can now get the filter working. However it only appears to work on PM messages which are read for the first time. Is there anyway that the PM filter can work on messages which are read rather than just those read PM for the first time? Hi Paul, You will have to mark them unread first. After that the filter will be activated again when marked read again. I have the read timer set to a very small value so I can almost scroll through them. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- The problem with doing nothing is that you never know when you're done. Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: how long to unsubscribe?
--On Wednesday, July 27, 2005 12:01 +0100 Marck D Pearlstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have a rampant spam engine at work protecting you from things it thinks you don't need, you may not have seen the confirm messages. That could be it... I'll check my spamcatcher folder. Thanks! -- Dave Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Using the Message Dispatcher
Hello TBUDL, I have just started to get to grip with the Message Dispatcher even though I have been a Bat user for a couple of years. As I understand it from the help file, the Message Dispatcher allows you to view the messages on the server, (e.g. when using a laptop on the road) without having to download all the messages. You can then selectively download only the messages that you are interested in. This would be very helpful since we receive about 100 messages a day (mainly spam) and hence the server fills up very quickly. So if I access the server in the normal way, I will have a long download of largely rubbish into the inbox of my laptop (which does not have all the filters to get rid of spam that my office system provides). The problem is that it does not appear to be possible to view the server messages using the MD without also triggering the download. The 'Configure Account' settings only seem to provide one option in Mail management which is to invoke Message Dispatcher automatically at each mail check. This would also cause all the messages on the server to be downloaded to the laptop inbox which I am trying to avoid. Also, there are a number of options within Message Dispatcher that are not explained in the help file. Is there a more extended discussion of how to use the feature elsewhere? -- Best regards, David Embrey mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using the Message Dispatcher
Hello David, Wednesday, July 27, 2005, 9:30:55 AM, you wrote: DE The problem is that it does not appear to be possible to view the DE server messages using the MD without also triggering the download. DE The 'Configure Account' settings only seem to provide one option in DE Mail management which is to invoke Message Dispatcher automatically DE at each mail check. This would also cause all the messages on the DE server to be downloaded to the laptop inbox which I am trying to DE avoid. Also, there are a number of options within Message Dispatcher DE that are not explained in the help file. Is there a more extended DE discussion of how to use the feature elsewhere? You can read an individual message in dispatcher by selecting Message/Open. This does not take the message off the server. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.51.10 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using the Message Dispatcher
Hello David! On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, 9:30 AM, you wrote: The 'Configure Account' settings only seem to provide one option in Mail management which is to invoke Message Dispatcher automatically at each mail check. ... Also, Leave messages on the server for x days. ...This would also cause all the messages on the server to be downloaded to the laptop inbox which I am trying to avoid. Try the Global/toggle flag option. Or, for messages you do not wish to download, manually uncheck Receive. As Stuart Cuddy just wrote to you, you can read the messages on the server by selecting Open. And by unselecting Receive at the same time, you can leave the message on the server. You can also permanently unselect the Receive column, requiring you to manually check the Receive box for messages that you wish to download. Use the Global/set flag option. Also, there are a number of options within Message Dispatcher that are not explained in the help file. Is there a more extended discussion of how to use the feature elsewhere? Sorry, not to my knowledge. I use the Message Dispatcher to selectively download my messages as my routine way of managing my mail. I'm my Own Spam Filter, since I receive very few unwanted messages. The capability to manually select those I wish to receive and those I wish to delete is one of the joys of The Bat! for me. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.51.10 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using the Message Dispatcher
Hello Stuart, On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 09:55:39 -0500 GMT (27/07/2005, 21:55 +0700 GMT), Stuart Cuddy wrote: DE The problem is that it does not appear to be possible to view the DE server messages using the MD without also triggering the download. SC You can read an individual message in dispatcher by selecting SC Message/Open. This does not take the message off the server. Let me add that the MD downloads all the headers, this this is what might confuse David. The messages will only be downloaded if they are ticked receive, which is the default. I have one account which receives more spam than anything. I open the MD and hit ctrl-2. This takes the tickmark off of all messages. Then I look through the headers and tick receive for those that I do want to download. If most messages are spam and should be deleted from the server, crtl-3 marks all message to be deleted. If good messages should not be deleted from the server, that tickmark can still be taken off manually. -- Cheers, Thomas. There is a CD out entitled The Worst of Jefferson Airplane. If you buy this, take it home, play it, and enjoy it, should you take it back and demand a refund? Message reply created with The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
I tried to like The Bat!, really
So after months and months of watching TB!'s progress, waiting and hoping IMAP would become usable enough I could return to TB!, I decided yesterday that I would give up, unsub from the lists, and just stick to an old copy of TB! I have lying around for my one POP account (and the only reason I would need that is because TB! saves attachments to their own folder, a capability I haven't come across in other MUAs). But this morning I saw a message from Allie (aka ACM, aka Curtis, etc) on a non-Bat list recommending that people try out IMAP on the latest release version of TB! and that it had come a long ways (of course including a YMMV disclaimer). So I downloaded 3.51.10, fired it up, added two IMAP accounts, and right out of the box, 3 showstoppers: 1) On one account, after unsubscribing from the only mailbox that had new messages, the account's unread message count didn't change (I guess this isn't quite a showstopper, but it certainly is annoying). 2) Using server-side filtering, TB! still doesn't know I have new messages in folders until I've selected those folders. (Maybe there is a way around this, but I shouldn't have to go out of my way to have my mail client check for new messages...) 3) After deleting a few messages from a folder, selecting any message in the message list would display the incorrect message. (Again, perhaps there is a fix for this, but I shouldn't have to trick my mail client into showing me the currently selected message instead of randomly selecting a message to show me...) I haven't spent any time playing around with IMAP Fine Tune options or anything else because I shouldn't have to. A mail client's default settings should be sufficient to provide basic functionality. If I have to take extra time to try to figure out what default settings need to be changed in order to achieve basic functionality, something is just not right. I realize that IMAP issues are apparently supposed to be a high priority in the present beta series. However, I believe it has been two years since IMAP was initially implemented in TB! and it still doesn't have basic functionality out of the box! So, I've waited an extra day in order to give TB! another chance, but I think it's time now to simply give up on TB! and move on. I would still consider TB! to be a top notch POP client, but for IMAP needs, almost any other IMAP-capable MUA could exceed TB's performance. Before I unsub, I just want to thank the TBUDL TBBETA communities for all the help and assistance you have been over the years in answering questions, overcoming problems, and making my TB experience much better and more useful than it otherwise would have been. -- Dave Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Importing from archived of .msg files
Hi all,
I have a really old file ('95) with the extension .pst which I would like to
importing into TB. The file is text and if I open it in a text editor I can see
that it is a bunch of mail messages (in .msg/.eml format) separated by a dot.
So the format looks like this:
Mail message (.msg)
.
Mail message (.msg)
.
Mail message (.msg)
.
etc
I can import the messages if I split them out into individual files saving as
.msg as I go. However this will take forever to do unless I can find a way to
import it automatically. I've tried to use the import wizard using UNIX format,
however this says no messages imported. Does anyone have any ideas about how I
could achieve this?
--
Thanks in advance,
Paul
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Re: Importing from archived of .msg files
Paul Meathrel @ 2005-Jul-27 5:31:31 PM
Importing from archived of .msg files mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have a really old file ('95) with the extension .pst which I would
like to importing into TB. The file is text and if I open it in a
text editor I can see that it is a bunch of mail messages (in
.msg/.eml format) separated by a dot. So the format looks like this:
Mail message (.msg)
.
Mail message (.msg)
.
Mail message (.msg)
.
etc
I can import the messages if I split them out into individual files
saving as .msg as I go. However this will take forever to do unless
I can find a way to import it automatically. I've tried to use the
import wizard using UNIX format, however this says no messages
imported. Does anyone have any ideas about how I could achieve this?
Try http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Outlook-to-Unix-Mailbox.html
If that doesn't work, send my the PST file and I can write a program
to convert it to a Unix mailbox (maybe).
--
Chris
Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma.
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Accessing a POP3 mailbox.
The sooner you fall behind, the more time you have to catch up.
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Re: Folder -- Watched By ??
Hi On Friday 15 July 2005 at 10:50:13 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Martin Schuster wrote: I can't follow you completely on that point: the chat folder I created (when selecting a message for Watch Replies In) doesn't have the tab Filter that a normal VF has. I never looked before but same here. I can only fill that chat folder by selecting a message to Watch Replies in that folder (or by some other methods I don't know about). Watch Replies in appears to do nothing here. In a normal VF however I always get displayed the messages that match the filter settings in the filter tab of the folder's properties. I couldn't make a normal VF display only the Watch Replies in messages. Perhaps you could filter on something in the headers? For example, subject, references... Maybe you can explain the secrets ;-) ? Can't really help with Chat Folders but hope I have been of some assistance with your original question regarding Watched By. -- Best regards, MFPA The truth is out there. Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Enable Send-To Context Menus?
Hi! Is there any way to add a choice to the send-to context menus visible in Windows (I'm using XP Pro, SP2) that would let me send files using The Bat? I've repeatedly run the installation wizard, and I don't see any such choice. I've restarted explorer, restarted my computer, looked through Options / Preferences and Account / Properties, reinstalled The Bat . . . and now I'm out of ideas. The Bat never appears in the Send To menu. Thanks for your suggestions! Tony -- Tony A.T. Mendina, http://www.mendina.com PGP/GPG Keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] It's good to be in the loop, as long as it's not a noose. Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Enable Send-To Context Menus?
Tony On Thu 28 July 2005, 12:28:35 +1000, you wrote: Is there any way to add a choice to the send-to context menus visible in Windows (I'm using XP Pro, SP2) that would let me send files using The Bat? Yes I've repeatedly run the installation wizard, and I don't see any such choice. I've restarted explorer, restarted my computer, looked through Options / Preferences and Account / Properties, reinstalled The Bat . . . and now I'm out of ideas. The Bat never appears in the Send To menu. The context menu reflects the contents of the SendTo folder in your documents and settings area. That is probably C:\Documents and Settings\username\SendTo Put a shortcut to The Bat! executable in that folder. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
