Re[6]: TB and multiple desktops

2005-08-07 Thread G. Minnerup
On Wednesday, August 3, 2005, 1:41:07 AM, Jeff Gaines wrote:

 Hello Group

 On Tuesday, August 2, 2005, 3:00:42 PM, G. wrote:

 On Tuesday, August 2, 2005, 11:20:27 PM, Jeff Gaines wrote:

 OK, I've down-loaded and installed it. TheBat! stays on Desk 1 for me,
 you haven't perhaps set TheBat! up as 'sticky'?

 Sorry, didn't read your reply properly - no I haven't.


 Well I made it 'sticky' and it followed me around, then I removed it
 from the sticky list and it's back to desk1 - and stays there.
 It's a neat app but I can't reproduce your problem, sorry.


Finally tracked down the problem, and as it was a setting in TB preferences I 
thought I'd share it: Always show icon in system tray needs to be disabled...

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Re: English (British) Dictionary

2005-08-07 Thread MAU
Hello Greg,

 I then loaded my .reg file from your earlier email. I NOW have 'CSAPI
 spell checker' in the user that is also an ADMINISTRATOR, but do NOT
 in the LIMITED user.

Well, that's an achievement, isn't it? :)

 So the issue now becomes apparently rights on a NT system for a
 limited user to access the 'CSAPI spell checker'.

Or maybe fiddling a little with the registry. I always login as
administrator and have no other users in my machine, so I can't be of
any help here.

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Re: English (British) Dictionary

2005-08-07 Thread MAU
Hello Greg,

 But in The Bat!/MAIL I see these two entries:
 eng_uk.dic
 eng_us.dic
 
 No!
 
 Could those be the lines that you've trying to identify, that you need
 to add to TB! in order to have the MS Office 97 CSAPI on your machine?
 
 Maybe! I do not know why Office 97 would put them there.

AFAIK those are user dics to add words, etc.

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Re: English (British) Dictionary

2005-08-07 Thread MAU
Hello Greg,

 And if you have Office 97 installed in the same machine than TB, then TB
 should see the CSAPI dics automagically.
 
 Ok, then please answer the question why in MicroEd does the word
 'email' show up as misspelled when under the menu 'Spell Checker |
 'Language' 'American English' is selected and Word 97 the word 'email'
 is correct?

First, even if TB is seeing your CSAPI dictionaries, you have to select
one of them to use it. It looks like you are still using the American
English from TB's intpack.

 Do subsequent installations of TB over previous versions of the TB
 which occur after the installation of Office 97 find the CSAPI engine?

They should. But I haven't had Office97 as such installed in my system
for many moon. TB does see the installation (reg keys, etc) that I
have for Office97 dics, though.

 Does TB UI still have the splitter line in the 'Language' submenu even
 after the UI has been completely re-written?

Yes,although depending on where you look the order may be reversed. See
attached PNGs. The second one is the context menu from the editor's
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Re: English (British) Dictionary

2005-08-07 Thread MAU
Hello MAU,

 See attached PNGs.

Sorry :-( I thought I was in TBBeta where small attachments are allowed.

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Re: Registration woes, and still trying to recover from installing vs 3.5

2005-08-07 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Handsome Jack Morrison  everyone else,

on 07-Aug-2005 at 00:57 you (Handsome Jack Morrison) wrote:

 Will there be conflicts because of that, if and when I ever do attempt to
 re-import the old data into my new version of TB?

If you want to import ONLY the message, no problem.

If you want to import your old settings, filters, templates, no good. In
that case, use the old account names. You can trust Curtis. Its better to
rename the accounts later.

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Re: TB!'s dictionaries--German language

2005-08-07 Thread Miroslav Florensen
Hello Roelof,

 No matter what you think, it used to mean German. ;-)

but the ID 'GE'(%LANGUAGE=GE) don't work with the new dictionaries,
you must use:

%LANGUAGE=GN (New spelling)
%LANGUAGE=GO (Old spelling)
%LANGUAGE=CSAPI GE

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Re: Registration woes, and still trying to recover from installing vs 3.5

2005-08-07 Thread -=Curtis=-
On Sunday, August 07, 2005 at 4:45:34 AM [GMT -0500], Alexander S. Kunz
wrote:

 You can trust Curtis.

Thanks for the certification. :

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Re[3]: Reward offered!

2005-08-07 Thread Vili
HJM And  thanks  to  the  help of several folks here, and for which I
HJM will always be grateful, I have now managed to salvage my old key
HJM from  an old backup, too, and that pathetic nag screen is finally
HJM gone.

If you provide S/N next time and I can identify you, I can resend your
reg. key for no charge.

Just  a  note: guys at RL are not sick. They protect their investment.
When  layers,  doctors  etc.  will  work  free,  THEN can anyone claim
against any nag screen in softwares...

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Re[2]: Registration woes, and still trying to recover from installing vs 3.5

2005-08-07 Thread Handsome Jack Morrison
Sunday, August 7, 2005, 5:45:34 AM, you wrote:

 Hello Handsome Jack Morrison  everyone else,

 on 07-Aug-2005 at 00:57 you (Handsome Jack Morrison) wrote:

 Will there be conflicts because of that, if and when I ever do attempt to
 re-import the old data into my new version of TB?

 If you want to import ONLY the message, no problem.

 If you want to import your old settings, filters, templates, no good. In
 that case, use the old account names. You can trust Curtis. Its better to
 rename the accounts later.

Oh, I trust him, Alexander.  I'm just exploring my options.

So, okay.  I'd like to preserve the settings in several of my
accounts, especially the templates in one of them.

I've now renamed each Account the way they are named in my old Bat
file.

Your instructions said to:

3. Re-create your accounts as they were before (same names, same pathes
for mail directories) - one by one.

I think I've done that now.  I always use the default path for mail
directories, so I should be good there, too.

For each account you created, copy the files you backed up before
back, then check to see if the program is still running.  That way,
you can identify the account thats giving you the headache.

I have some more questions about the above.  What files do I copy over, and
to where do I copy them?

For example, there's a folder in the old file (in the MAIL
directory) that is named John Doe. Do I copy that file *over* the John Doe
folder in my new Bat files? I.e., do I select the old John Doe folder,
type Ctrl-C, move to the new John Doe folder, select it, and then type
Ctrl-V?  And when you say check to see if the program is running do
you mean that I should then try to open TB?

4.When you found the problematic account, try to remove/rename the
account configuration files (account.xxx) one by one. You will
eventually find the configuration file that is causing the problems.

Okay. I find 6 account configuration files (account.xxx) in the old
Bat file.

Account.~FLB
Account.CFG
Account.CFN
Account.FLB
Account.FLX
Account.SRB

I assume those are the account configuration files that you're referring too?

So, if, for example, TB doesn't open up after copying over the John Doe file, 
I
should go back into the new Bat files and remove/rename, one at a
time, each of those accounts (e.g., Account.CFN, etc.)?

Which makes me think that TB recreates them each time it's loaded if
one (or more) of them isn't already there, right?

What if I end up with the same problem that brought me here in the
first place?

I need a beer...

A little more hand-holding, please!

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Re[2]: Reward offered!

2005-08-07 Thread Handsome Jack Morrison
Saturday, August 6, 2005, 11:52:34 PM, you wrote:

 Hi Handsome,
 On Sat, 6 Aug 2005, at 21:08:41 [GMT-0400] (which was Sun, 11:08:41
 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote:

 But thanks again for all of your help and your especially warm response!

 Sheesh.

 Time to relax!

That's easy for you to say...

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Re[4]: Reward offered!

2005-08-07 Thread Handsome Jack Morrison
Sunday, August 7, 2005, 10:59:24 AM, you wrote:

HJM And  thanks  to  the  help of several folks here, and for which I
HJM will always be grateful, I have now managed to salvage my old key
HJM from  an old backup, too, and that pathetic nag screen is finally
HJM gone.

 If you provide S/N next time and I can identify you, I can resend your
 reg. key for no charge.

Thanks for the offer.  I've already sent a request to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] asking for just that (and I explained who I was,
etc., although I didn't include my serial number).

I'm up and running again, thanks to some really nice folks here, but
I'd still like a copy of my actual key sent to me so that I can take it down
to the bank and put it into my deposit box.

 Just  a  note: guys at RL are not sick. They protect their investment.

I have no problem whatsoever with software companies protecting their
investments.  I'm with you a 100% on that matter.

I'm not even against nag screens.

But *your* nag screen policy could only have been designed by the
Marquis De Sade himself. Whoever designed it is, in effect, saying that
I'm going to drive this poor SOB so freakin' crazy with nag screens
that he'll either pay up quick (which is like saying that you don't really have 
a
30 day trial period after all), or you'll drive him completely away (and lose 
a sale).

That doesn't sound very customer oriented to me.

A nag screen for a free 30 day trial should appear, at most, each and every
time the user opens the program -- not hundreds and hundreds of time
per day., for crissakes.

Not to mention the real cutesy trick of continually switching the sides on
the Exit and Okay buttons, which only reinforces what I said about
this guy being a sick0.  Either you want people to actually put TB
through its paces for 30 days, or you don't.

But driving folks NUTSO with nag screens is just so sick, IMO.

 When  layers,  doctors  etc.  will  work  free,

But lawyers, doctors, etc. aren't trying to sell you SOFTWARE.

A better comparison would be new car salesman.

Here, buddy, take this model out for a test drive and see how you
like it! I have to tag along with you though, and slap you upside the head
with a fish every several seconds. My boss doesn't think you'll buy the car if
I don't.

Give me a break.

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Re: Using The Bat! to retrieve Hot Mail

2005-08-07 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Michael,

On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 11:07:24 -0500GMT (7-8-2005, 18:07 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

MAI was wondering if anyone is using anything to retrieve Hot Mail
MAmessages besides Freepops? I was using it for the past few
MAmonths and last week something changed and I can not retrieve my
MAHot Mail messages any longer.

I don't use hotmail, but did you ever try Web2Pop?
It's not free though, $19/user.
http://www.jmasoftware.com/english/index.html says they did the last
hotmail update on my birthday.

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Re[2]: Using The Bat! to retrieve Hot Mail

2005-08-07 Thread Michael Acklin
Hello Roelof,

Sunday, August 7, 2005, 11:45:56 AM, you wrote:


 I don't use hotmail, but did you ever try Web2Pop?
 It's not free though, $19/user.
 http://www.jmasoftware.com/english/index.html says they did the last
 hotmail update on my birthday.

 Thanks Roelof, will give it a try. As I said, hate using the Web
 Interface and would rather use TB! to handle all the e-mail. Going
 to there web site right now. :)


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Re: Ctrl - Alt - Del

2005-08-07 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Alexander,

On Sat, 6 Aug 2005 08:37:51 +0200 GMT (06/08/2005, 13:37 +0700 GMT),
Alexander S. Kunz wrote:

ASK FWIW, for a couple of days 3.5.30 was the release version downloadable for
ASK everyone on the RL website

I guess I'm not the only one getting confused about which version is a
beta and which is a release, now that it is not obvious from the
version number any more. Anyway, the bug's been fixed.

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Re: Registration woes, and still trying to recover from installing vs 3.5

2005-08-07 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Handsome Jack Morrison  everyone else,

on 07-Aug-2005 at 18:07 you (Handsome Jack Morrison) wrote:

3. Re-create your accounts as they were before (same names, same pathes
for mail directories) - one by one.

 I think I've done that now.  I always use the default path for mail
 directories, so I should be good there, too.

Good!

For each account you created, copy the files you backed up before back,
then check to see if the program is still running. That way, you can
identify the account thats giving you the headache.

 I have some more questions about the above. What files do I copy over,
 and to where do I copy them?

 For example, there's a folder in the old file (in the MAIL directory)
 that is named John Doe. Do I copy that file *over* the John Doe
 folder in my new Bat files? I.e., do I select the old John Doe
 folder, type Ctrl-C, move to the new John Doe folder, select it, and
 then type Ctrl-V? And when you say check to see if the program is
 running do you mean that I should then try to open TB?

Exactly. You copy the contents of the old account folder (your old John
Doe directory) over the contents of the new account directory.

But wait!

Before you copy the old files over the new files, *please* back up the
*new* files to a different location, so that - once you have found the
problematic account - you can go back to the set of new files by copying
them over again.

And btw. - when you copy the old account folders and their subfolders back
into place, you'll also restore your old messages (and eventually will find
your original TB registration message).


4.When you found the problematic account, try to remove/rename the
account configuration files (account.xxx) one by one. You will
eventually find the configuration file that is causing the problems.

 Okay. I find 6 account configuration files (account.xxx) in the old
 Bat file.


 Account.~FLB
 Account.CFG
 Account.CFN
 Account.FLB
 Account.FLX
 Account.SRB

 I assume those are the account configuration files that you're referring 
 too?

Correct, those are the files. If there are more in one or the other
directory (for example, a file account.qtn contains the Quick Templates,
if you have any), copy all of them.


 What if I end up with the same problem that brought me here in the
 first place?

Of course the old  corrupted file we're trying to find will not work again
all of a sudden. :-)

At one point when you copied over another set of configuration files, your
TB *will* hang again for sure. At this point, you know now which account
contains the faulty configuration file.

If that happens, you go back to the new set of configuration files you
backed up before. Then move the old files back again, but this time, not
all at once, but one after the other. Copy one configuration file, restart
TB, still works? Quit TB, copy the next configuration file, restart TB,
still works? And so on... until you've found the faulty file.

There still one more thing you may be missing when you're thru all this:
your address book, and your common filters. Those are not in any of the
account directories, but in the root Mail directory. Be sure to copy
these old files back, too.


 I need a beer...

I don't have any beer at home right now, a glass of red wine maybe?


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Re: Really strange behaviour.

2005-08-07 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello SD,

On Sat, 6 Aug 2005 18:39:07 +0300 GMT (06/08/2005, 22:39 +0700 GMT),
SD wrote:

S No, I didn't enable message splitting. As I said, the outbox shows
S number of messages correctly. Its whend I do Send Queued Mails, it
S starts to send hundreds of mails, one by one, of course...

Does you also get a high number of messages sent when you just send
one message with a large attachment, or only when mass mailing?

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Re: New version of The Bat won't load!

2005-08-07 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Handsome,

On Sat, 6 Aug 2005 12:31:24 -0400 GMT (06/08/2005, 23:31 +0700 GMT),
Handsome Jack Morrison wrote:

HJM Can I do that now(close TB and double-click on that file), or should I
HJM wait until after I have set-up all my other accounts?

You should have done that before setting up accounts, because it would
have saved you work. Now that you have set them up already, I wouldn't
reimport the old registry key any more, because you will lose the info
you have already typed in. The registry key will be overwritten.

Since TB is running on your machine now, just go ahead and continue
setting up accounts. That's my advice.

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Re[2]: Reward offered!

2005-08-07 Thread Handsome Jack Morrison
Saturday, August 6, 2005, 11:52:34 PM, you wrote:

 Hi Handsome,
 On Sat, 6 Aug 2005, at 21:08:41 [GMT-0400] (which was Sun, 11:08:41
 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote:

 But thanks again for all of your help and your especially warm response!

 Sheesh.

 Time to relax!

Time to actually read the threads before commenting!

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Jack's announces his new upgrade policy for TB

2005-08-07 Thread Handsome Jack Morrison

Jack will next upgrade his two copies of The Bat to newer versions
only three years *after* all of the following things occur:

1. It snows in Miami, Florida in August.
2. A cure for cancer is found.
3. The Chicago Cubs win the World Series.
4. Microsoft files for bankruptcy protection.
5. Osama Bin Laden converts to Roman Catholicism.

And maybe not even then.

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Re: New version of The Bat won't load!

2005-08-07 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Handsome,

On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 14:15:00 -0400 GMT (08/08/2005, 01:15 +0700 GMT),
Handsome Jack Morrison wrote:

 Since TB is running on your machine now, just go ahead and continue
 setting up accounts. That's my advice.

HJM Or what that means, either.

It means, just go ahead with what you are doing anyway. Forget about
the registry key (that .reg file) you have. You don't need it any more
and would cause damage if you double-clicked on it now.

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Re[2]: English (British) Dictionary

2005-08-07 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Greg,
Sunday, August 7, 2005, 2:00:10 PM, you wrote:

GS Anyhow the answer is providing the limited user permissions (i.e.
GS rights) not only to directories, but also to the registry keys per
GS the KB257643. I now have the dictionary functions working in both
GS TB  Word 97 on the limited user account.

Unfortunately, I believe this is only possible with XP Pro as you do
not have this flexibility in the Home version. :(

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Re[2]: Jack's announces his new upgrade policy for TB

2005-08-07 Thread Handsome Jack Morrison
Sunday, August 7, 2005, 4:30:46 PM, you wrote:

[]
 And maybe not even then.

 Give it a rest.

No thanks.

 You are getting quite boring.

Then don't bother to read my posts.

Easy, right?

Or do you just enjoy ankle-biting?

That's what I thought.

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Re: Registration woes, and still trying to recover from installing vs 3.5

2005-08-07 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Handsome Jack Morrison  everyone else,

on 07-Aug-2005 at 20:14 you (Handsome Jack Morrison) wrote:

 And btw. - when you copy the old account folders and their subfolders back
 into place, you'll also restore your old messages (and eventually will find
 your original TB registration message).

 I assume that just by copying the old account folder (e.g., John
 Doe) each account's subfolder(s) will tag a long, right?

If you copy the entire folder, its OK. I thought you might only copy the
single files, that why I mentioned it.


 At one point when you copied over another set of configuration files, your
 TB *will* hang again for sure. At this point, you know now which account
 contains the faulty configuration file.

 If that happens, you go back to the new set of configuration files you
 backed up before. Then move the old files back again, but this time, not
 all at once, but one after the other.

 I'm confused.  What do you mean by not all at once?  I wouldn't have
 copied them over all at once before, but one at a time.

I thought you have multiple accounts. Not all of them will contain corrupt
configuration files.

So, first you copy the entire account back and see if TB still starts fine.
If it doesn't, you have found the problem account. Only then, and only in
this problem account, you try one file at a time, so that we can restore
the maximum of configuration data from the old account files.


 And what do you mean by move the old files back again? And back where?
 Old, as in the files from old TB that wouldn't load? If I move one of
 them to the new TB, and TB won't load (like before) isn't that the only
 one that needs to be removed/renamed, because I can re-create it from
 scratch again?

Yes, but as I wrote above, you can limit it to (most likely) one single
configuration file (lets say account.srb), and you'll still have the rest
of the OK files.

 The way I see it, I'm, at best, going to lose at least one Account's
 configuration files (provided only one Account is corrupted), right?

Not the entire files, if you go thru these one at a time once you located
the problematic account.


 I'm afraid that I'm going to screw this up royally.

Not now, we're so close, man.

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Re[4]: Using The Bat! to retrieve Hot Mail

2005-08-07 Thread Michael Acklin
Hello Jeff,

Sunday, August 7, 2005, 12:50:31 PM, you wrote:

 If you don't get on with it then Hotmail Popper is worth a look, I am
 using it here in conjunction with K9. It's at:
 http://www.boolean.ca/hotpop/

 I am using it with 1 paid and 1 free account, although we were warned
 some time ago that POP3 retrieval for free accounts would be removed -
 one day.

Yep found that one also. Am using it now and it is working fine. Have
not had any problems with retrieving the mail from Hotmail. All I have
is a Free account. Have had this account since the early '90s when it
was still the REAL Hotmail. :) Before Microsoft bought it out.

But thanks for the reply and like I said it is working fine...

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Re[2]: Using The Bat! to retrieve Hot Mail

2005-08-07 Thread Michael Acklin
Hello A.Translator,

Sunday, August 7, 2005, 12:03:15 PM, you wrote:

 I have used Web2Pop for my Yahoo-accounts for ages now, and it has never 
 failed
 me. Well worth the dough.

Thanks but I have a paid account with yahoo and am able to get the
mail just fine with TB!

I do appreciate all the feed back and am looking at all options.

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Re[3]: Jack's announces his new upgrade policy for TB

2005-08-07 Thread Neal Laugman
Jack,

 Give it a rest.

 No thanks.

Please reconsider and move on. I'm sure Roelof or Marck will
eventually agree, too.

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Neal Laugman

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Re: New version of The Bat won't load!

2005-08-07 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Jack,

On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 15:13:36 -0400GMT (7-8-2005, 21:13 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

 It means, just go ahead with what you are doing anyway. Forget about
 the registry key (that .reg file) you have. You don't need it any more
 and would cause damage if you double-clicked on it now.

JM But I've *already* clicked on it, as requested.

Thomas meant the full registry back-up for TB. Not the single key file
with your registration key that I extracted from it.

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Re[4]: Jack's announces his new upgrade policy for TB

2005-08-07 Thread Handsome Jack Morrison
Sunday, August 7, 2005, 5:23:03 PM, you wrote:

 Jack,

 Give it a rest.

 No thanks.

 Please reconsider and move on. I'm sure Roelof or Marck will
 eventually agree, too.

That's always possible.

I'd accept it, of course, but I wouldn't understand it.

Unless, of course, you're only welcome here if you're going to sing
TB's praises?

IMO, it wouldn't hurt some of you to stop taking yourselves so
seriously, and lighten up a bit.  I'm having major problems.  I'm
angry, I'm frustrated, and tired. And it couldn't have come at a worse
time. Yet I'm trying to find something, anything, to laugh at.

Yet some of you seem to delight in biting at my ankles during my
troubles

I think that says more about you than it does about me.

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Jack

Q: What is the difference between an Australian wedding and an Australian 
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Re[2]: New version of The Bat won't load!

2005-08-07 Thread Handsome Jack Morrison
Sunday, August 7, 2005, 5:30:54 PM, you wrote:

 Hallo Jack,

 On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 15:13:36 -0400GMT (7-8-2005, 21:13 +0200, where I
 live), you wrote:

 It means, just go ahead with what you are doing anyway. Forget about
 the registry key (that .reg file) you have. You don't need it any more
 and would cause damage if you double-clicked on it now.

JM But I've *already* clicked on it, as requested.

 Thomas meant the full registry back-up for TB. Not the single key file
 with your registration key that I extracted from it.

Okay.  Thanks for the clarification.

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Jack




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Re[2]: Registration woes, and still trying to recover from installing vs 3.5

2005-08-07 Thread Handsome Jack Morrison
Sunday, August 7, 2005, 5:13:44 PM, you wrote:

 Hello Handsome Jack Morrison  everyone else,

 on 07-Aug-2005 at 20:14 you (Handsome Jack Morrison) wrote:

 And btw. - when you copy the old account folders and their subfolders back
 into place, you'll also restore your old messages (and eventually will find
 your original TB registration message).

 I assume that just by copying the old account folder (e.g., John
 Doe) each account's subfolder(s) will tag a long, right?

 If you copy the entire folder, its OK. I thought you might only copy the
 single files, that why I mentioned it.

I was going to find the old account file folder (e.g., the one
labeled John Doe), select it, and then hit Ctrl-C.

Then I was going to find the new account file folder, select it, and
hit Ctrl-V.

 At one point when you copied over another set of configuration files, your
 TB *will* hang again for sure. At this point, you know now which account
 contains the faulty configuration file.

 If that happens, you go back to the new set of configuration files you
 backed up before. Then move the old files back again, but this time, not
 all at once, but one after the other.

 I'm confused.  What do you mean by not all at once?  I wouldn't have
 copied them over all at once before, but one at a time.

 I thought you have multiple accounts. Not all of them will contain corrupt
 configuration files.

I think we just have a bit of a semantics problem.  By all at once, I thought 
you
meant all at the same time.

Yes, I have 10 accounts.  And I was planning on copying the old
accounts over to the new accounts -- but one at a time.

 So, first you copy the entire account back and see if TB still starts fine.
 If it doesn't, you have found the problem account. Only then, and only in
 this problem account, you try one file at a time, so that we can restore
 the maximum of configuration data from the old account files.

Here's where I'm losing you again.  And, frankly, I'm getting a little
burned out.  In fact, I'm worn to a frazzle.

 And what do you mean by move the old files back again? And back where?
 Old, as in the files from old TB that wouldn't load? If I move one of
 them to the new TB, and TB won't load (like before) isn't that the only
 one that needs to be removed/renamed, because I can re-create it from
 scratch again?

 Yes, but as I wrote above, you can limit it to (most likely) one single
 configuration file (lets say account.srb), and you'll still have the rest
 of the OK files.

Okay.  That helps explain it.

 The way I see it, I'm, at best, going to lose at least one Account's
 configuration files (provided only one Account is corrupted), right?

 Not the entire files, if you go thru these one at a time once you located
 the problematic account.

 I'm afraid that I'm going to screw this up royally.

 Not now, we're so close, man.

Close, but no cigar, I'm afraid.

I really shouldn't try this in my present state of mind, plus it's
getting late.  So I'm going to sleep on it again.  I've printed out all of your
messages, and I'm going to read them, then read them again, then read them 
again,
and then maybe give it a shot (if I happen to experience one of those
Eureka! moments while reading them).

Or, I may just decide to leave well enough alone, and just cut my
losses. I couldn't go through this again.  I just couldn't.

Whatever happens, Alexander, I sincerely appreciate your patience and
willingness to give me a hand. And I apologize for making what to you
is probably like tying your shoelaces into something closer to open-heart
surgery.

You're a great guy, and so is Roelof (even if he eventually decides to
cut me loose).

Good night.

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Jack




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Re[5]: Jack's announces his new upgrade policy for TB

2005-08-07 Thread Vili
Hello Handsome,

HJM IMO,  it  wouldn't  hurt some of you to stop taking yourselves so
HJM seriously,  and  lighten up a bit. I'm having major problems. I'm
HJM angry, I'm frustrated, and tired.

And  because  of it you are making other people angry... Your mail was
not  funny  (at  least  I  did  not  laugh  at it), next time use some
smileys...

It  just  shows a weak character, nothing more, if someone put his/her
anger/frustration on other people.

-- 
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