Re: [TBBETA] TB creates faulty ISO encoding in header lines
On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 19:16:27 +0200, St - Musaic.Net [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that behaviour and problem is very similar to the one you are reporting. It has been like this since early version 2. Nice! :/ Ditto (v2.12 here); this same behaviour also alters the addressee (To:) when composing a reply. When the original message's Sender: or Reply-To: is in the format Lastname, Firstname [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lastname, Firstname part *not* enclosed in quotes), the reply will be send to [EMAIL PROTECTED], Lastname [EMAIL PROTECTED]. The reply will be delivered correctly ot the intended recipient, but it also will either be sent to an undesired local recipient or trigger a delivery failure on the local domain. I've been pondering about a macro-style rewriter of the To; field for replies, but failed a catch-all and let it be - it happens only with a limited number of known contacts, so I'll simply keep an eye on it... -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBBETA] TB creates faulty ISO encoding in header lines
On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 09:37:53 +0200, Cory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Lastname, Firstname part *not* enclosed in quotes) That can't work since the comma is an address separator. If you're using a comma in a single address field, you must enclose it in quotes. -- Greetings/Grüsse Alexander. Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBBETA] TB creates faulty ISO encoding in header lines
Hallo Cory, On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 09:37:53 +0200GMT (29-8-2005, 9:37 +0200, where I live), you wrote: C Ditto (v2.12 here); this same behaviour also alters the addressee C (To:) when composing a reply. When the original message's Sender: or C Reply-To: is in the format Lastname, Firstname [EMAIL PROTECTED] C (Lastname, Firstname part *not* enclosed in quotes), the reply will be C send to [EMAIL PROTECTED], Lastname [EMAIL PROTECTED]. C The reply will be delivered correctly ot the intended recipient, but C it also will either be sent to an undesired local recipient or trigger C a delivery failure on the local domain. That is as it should. It is possible to set multiple reply-to addresses and to do that you need to use the comma as address separator. So if you want replies to go to both your home and office addresses, you set your headers so: Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Therefore a reply-to with a comma that's not enclosed in quotes should be used as address separator. So when you've got contacts using lastname, firstname address without quotes around the name, you should rebuke them for non RFC compliant behaviour, not TB. I don't know about other clients, but TB (at least my version) is properly setting the quotes when a comma is encountered. -- Groetjes, Roelof Apple (c) Copyright 1767, Sir Isaac Newton The Bat! 3.60.05 Forerunner (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpFqp0quHaJV.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is there a VAT field in The Bat! v3.5 Addressbook
Hello wonderful George Mitchell, den 25 augusti 2005, 19:01:13, du skrev: GM qe3ee wrote: q In New Message i pasted: q %QInclude(ab_memo_item,VAT,) GM So you want to use the VAT info in the body of outgoing messages, GM correct? GM Try putting: GM %QInclude(ab_memo_item,VAT,)%- GM in a QT called vat. Then compose a message to someone who you've GM added the vat item to the AB memo. In the body of the email type GM vat (without the quotes) and press Ctrl+Space. The vat should be GM replaced by the value of the memo item. GM If this works, then you can add this to the appropriate message GM templates if you want to automatically generate output. What is the GM output you're looking for? q In memo I pasted the VAT number and the VAT=yes code: VAT, q SE1234567890 (not a real VATnumber) GM Are you going to want to use the VAT number programmatically as well? q I would be most greatful if this could be practicaly usable. GM Hopefully we can get it working. Unfortunately, I don't have a v2 TB! GM handy to test with so if there are v2 vs. v3 differences it could get GM sticky. Peace! version 3.5 seems to work better with this kind of information filtering than the bat v2.12. :P :P The code works great! The Bat 2.12 may show the content of memo in new messages aswell. I got it to work but only by using a separate QT for every separate post in TB AB. :( The code from George and friends are more universal. :star: -- kind regards, qe3ee mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- E fructu arbor cognoscitur 16:14:28 den 29 augusti 2005 --- The Bat! v3.51.10 Windows XP.5.1.2600 if this mail has a virus please throw it away and notify me :) Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBBETA] TB creates faulty ISO encoding in header lines
Hello all, Monday, August 29, 2005, Roelof Otten wrote: That is as it should. It is possible to set multiple reply-to addresses and to do that you need to use the comma as address separator. So if you want replies to go to both your home and office addresses, you set your headers so: Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Therefore a reply-to with a comma that's not enclosed in quotes should be used as address separator. So when you've got contacts using lastname, firstname address without quotes around the name, you should rebuke them for non RFC compliant behaviour, not TB. I don't know about other clients, but TB (at least my version) is properly setting the quotes when a comma is encountered. not allways, I have discovered problem in Reading Confirmation message: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5050 -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.60.05 Forerunner (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBBETA] TB creates faulty ISO encoding in header lines
Hallo Marek, On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:49:37 +0200GMT (29-8-2005, 16:49 +0200, where I live), you wrote: I don't know about other clients, but TB (at least my version) is properly setting the quotes when a comma is encountered. MM not allways, I have discovered problem in Reading Confirmation MM message: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5050 As this is a recent report, I guess it'd likely that you still have got the original message that was asking for the reading confirmation. Can you check whether the quotes were properly set in the Disposition-Notification-To: header? TB leaves the name part of that header blank, but when I manually set the name with quotes in the source (in a message to myself) TB will react to it with a name enclosed with quotes. So humour me and check the original Disposition-Notification-To: header. In all of my test messages TB sent the reading confirmation to the exact contents of that header, whether they made sense or not. -- Groetjes, Roelof If worst comes to worst, you *CAN* turn most things off. The Bat! 3.60.05 Forerunner (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpShrvlBDCAk.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Backup compatibillity between v3.5 v2.12, servermode compatibillity between different version of the bats and more...
Hello wonderful tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com, Some questions that the helpfile don't fully answers: 1. Are there compatibillity issues to consider between backups from the bat v3.15.10 and the bat v2.12.04? This is important if I would like to go back to v2.12.04 from v3.51.10 (tryout version) via a backupfile! -Or should I just install the v2.12.04 over the v3.51.10? I might not purchase a businesslicense of the bat v3.5 right now, thats why this i important to know. 2. When operating the bat in servermode as a server for other e-mail clients are there compatibillity issues between different verions of the bat if I lets say use a the bat v2.12.04 as a mail server, and others are using thunderbird (versions are unknown to me), becky (versions are unknown to me) or the bat v1.6, v2.12 or v3.51? 3. May the bat work simultaneous as non-TCP/IP based mailserver and TCP/IP based mailserver? 4. -How well does the bat work in a VPN, as server? (preferably my old licenses for v1.6 and v2.12) Any drawbacks with IPSec? (Myownexperiencescomes from using the bat v1.3 to v2.12 in standalone workstation mode with TCP/IP) -- kind regards, qe3ee mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- E fructu arbor cognoscitur 16:26:41 den 29 augusti 2005 --- The Bat! v3.51.10 Windows XP.5.1.2600 if this mail has a virus please throw it away and notify me :) Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBBETA] TB creates faulty ISO encoding in header lines
Hello all, Monday, August 29, 2005, Roelof Otten wrote: MM not allways, I have discovered problem in Reading Confirmation MM message: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5050 As this is a recent report, I guess it'd likely that you still have got the original message that was asking for the reading confirmation. Can you check whether the quotes were properly set in the Disposition-Notification-To: header? yes, both headers are the same. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.60.05 Forerunner (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBBETA] TB creates faulty ISO encoding in header lines
Hallo Marek, On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 17:50:28 +0200GMT (29-8-2005, 17:50 +0200, where I live), you wrote: Can you check whether the quotes were properly set in the Disposition-Notification-To: header? MM yes, both headers are the same. What both headers? Do you mean the Disposition-Notification-To: header in the original message and the To: header in your reading confirmation and was TB acting as it should or we talking on different wave lengths? -- Groetjes, Roelof WinErr: 019 User error - Not our fault. Is Not! Is Not! The Bat! 3.60.05 Forerunner (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpp9pAWzKMRM.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backup compatibillity between v3.5 v2.12, servermode compatibillity between different version of the bats and more...
Hallo qe3ee, On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 17:36:18 +0200GMT (29-8-2005, 17:36 +0200, where I live), you wrote: Q 1. Q Are there compatibillity issues to consider between backups from the bat Q v3.15.10 and the bat v2.12.04? (Presuming that you're meaning 3.51.10) Could be possible, as v3 is using file types that v2 didn't use and doesn't make copies of the matching v2 files. And as v2 doesn't know them yet, it can't convert them. Q -Or should I just install the v2.12.04 over the v3.51.10? Same problem. The actual message base can still be used, but the sorting office and account properties are lost. Q I might not purchase a businesslicense of the bat v3.5 right now, thats why Q this i important to know. Apart from the things mentioned above, v2 doesn't know what to do with v3's encrypted message base. Q 2. Q When operating the bat in servermode as a server for other e-mail clients are Q there compatibillity issues between different verions of the bat if I lets Q say use a the bat v2.12.04 as a mail server, and others are using Q thunderbird (versions are unknown to me), becky (versions are unknown to Q me) or the bat v1.6, v2.12 or v3.51? TB only works in 'server mode' for other copies of TB of the same main version. This has to do with the changing file types for account properties, folder properties and sorting office for the various versions. TB doesn't do server mode for other mail clients, as its server mode is merely message base sharing between multiple copies of TB. Q 3. Q May the bat work simultaneous as non-TCP/IP based mailserver and TCP/IP based Q mailserver? TB doesn't work as non TCP/IP based mail server. TB's server mode requires TCP/IP as the server instance needs to connect to the internet. Q 4. Q -How well does the bat work in a VPN, as server? (preferably my old licenses Q for v1.6 and v2.12) Any drawbacks with IPSec? AFAIK TB doesn't care about the network connection you're using to make the various TB instances connect to their shared message base. Q (Myownexperiencescomes from using the bat v1.3 to v2.12 in Q standalone workstation mode with TCP/IP) Those two versions won't work together at all, as v1.3 used a different message base format (that changed somewhere in the v1.4/v1.5 time. -- Groetjes, Roelof Women's clothes: Go to extremes, seldom to extremities. The Bat! 3.60.05 Forerunner (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgp7DgDKsras5.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBBETA] TB creates faulty ISO encoding in header lines
Hello all, Monday, August 29, 2005, Roelof Otten wrote: Can you check whether the quotes were properly set in the Disposition-Notification-To: header? MM yes, both headers are the same. What both headers? Do you mean the Disposition-Notification-To: header in the original message and the To: header in your reading confirmation and was TB acting as it should or we talking on different wave lengths? From: and Disposition-Notification-To: headers are the same. When I reply to message, quotation marks are there. But when was Confirmation message automatically created, quotation marks were missing. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.60.05 Forerunner (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBBETA] TB creates faulty ISO encoding in header lines
Hallo Marek, On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 18:33:06 +0200GMT (29-8-2005, 18:33 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MM From: and Disposition-Notification-To: headers are the same. When I MM reply to message, quotation marks are there. But when was Confirmation MM message automatically created, quotation marks were missing. We're clearly moving in the dark regions of the current beta, so I'm crossposting this to tbbeta, but could you test whether that behaviour still exists for 3.60.05 as you reported it for 3.60.02? -- Groetjes, Roelof A vote on the tally sheet is worth two in the box. The Bat! 3.60.05 Forerunner (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgp8ReY7kRvem.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
keyboard shortcuts menu
Hello, all. It's been a while since I last used The Bat!, so my memory may be failing me... I just downloaded and installed 3.51.10. I recall using a keyboard shortcut editor to assigne shortcuts for things like menu actions, etc. The help file references the menu item View-Edit shortcuts as do several emails in the archives. However, I cannot seem to find this item. Does it still exist? WL -- . Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: keyboard shortcuts menu
Hello WL! On Monday, August 29, 2005, 1:10 PM, you wrote: It's been a while since I last used The Bat!, so my memory may be failing me... I just downloaded and installed 3.51.10. This version has a completely new interface. I recall using a keyboard shortcut editor to assigne shortcuts for things like menu actions, etc. Yes. This is now found in View/Toolbars/Customise ... The help file references the menu item View-Edit shortcuts as do several emails in the archives. However, I cannot seem to find this item. Does it still exist? Some of the v. 3.xx Help file is now outmoded, although there are many useful things in it that still work. For instance, the list of macros. It may not be easy to find your way around the Customise dialogues. Be sure to ask again here, if you don't figure out what to do. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.60.05 Forerunner (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Synching the address books
Hi Bat! Fans, Running two (registered) copies of Bat!; one at work, and the other at home. Anyway of synching the address books between the two? Regards, -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v3.51.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 My mind works like lightning... one brilliant flash and it's gone. Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Synching the address books
Hello John, Monday, August 29, 2005, 10:15:53 PM, you wrote: JP Hi Bat! Fans, JP Running two (registered) copies of Bat!; one at work, and the other at home. JP Anyway of synching the address books between the two? JP Regards, There is a Tools/Synchronize menu You can select which bits to sync, even which bits of the address book! Good luck -- Kind regards, Jenny Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Synching the address books
Hi Jenny, On Mon, 29 Aug 2005, at 22:36:37 [GMT+0200] (which was Tue, 6:36:37 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: There is a Tools/Synchronize menu You can select which bits to sync, even which bits of the address book! Good luck Greta! Thanks, will give it a go. -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v3.51.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 I'm not tense, just terribly A*L*E*R*T. Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
