Re: MailTicker behavior problems [was Re: Some new setup problems]
Hallo Gerard, On Thu, 6 Oct 2005 20:46:44 +0200GMT (6-10-2005, 20:46 +0200, where I live), you wrote: G> I found it before reading Roelofs e-mail, which is difficult You could consider a twit filter... -- Groetjes, Roelof Everyone is entitled to my opinion. The Bat! 3.61.10 Echo (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpZqWeAaMFbo.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat slowing down.
Howdy WL, Thursday, October 6, 2005, 5:55:22 PM, WL wrotened: >> >> * Roelof Otten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [051003 02:23]: >> > He could use archive folders without purge and compress settings for >> > older mail. >> > He should see whether there are a lot of messages in his inboxes that >> >> >> Thanks for the tips. We will indeed try "folder maintenance" and see the >> results. >> WL> Well, I hope that works for you. The thing that bugs me is TB!'s insistence WL> on counting all my emails on startup. Massive drive thrashing... WL> Is there any way of getting TB! to cache this data or delay this activity WL> or something like that? Seconded oh thee of the broken cutmark. WL> -- WL> WL -- Have Fun, Stan the Almighty! [EMAIL PROTECTED] crashing The Bat! v3.61.10 Echo (Beta) falling out of mid air with Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.70GHz 598 MHz 1.00GB RAM NIAGARA FALLS, NY - Stunt man Lucky Hinterman died while attempting to go over Niagara Falls in a barrel. Brother and equipment manager Brent Hinterman took full responsibility for the tragedy. "I was in charge of getting the barrel all cushioned and reinforced. But my son had a soccer game, and in my book, family comes first." When asked if he considered his brother to be a member of the family, Brent said, "Well, I suppose that's one way to look at it." Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Bugtrack say "open => not a bug"
Hello WilWilWil, Thursday, October 6, 2005, 10:54:57 AM, you wrote: SC>> As far as your original problem, I think that what they mean is that SC>> the blue bar was what was supposed to be happening if you did not put SC>> a check mark beside "Reply to HTML in palin text". This was working on SC>> my version of TB! > This box Checked or unchecked doesn't solve my trouble... :( What is your editor? You could also try going to 3.61.10 -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.61.10 Echo (Beta) on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AGAVA AntispamServant
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Mark, MA> Thursday, October 6, 2005, 8:51:55 PM, you wrote: MA> I haven't had anything wrongly MA> classified as spam since the first few days of training! My problem was the Spambayes email list. When I would mark those spam Spambayes list messages as spam it would then mark other Spambayes messages as spam. Getting Agava trained such that is did not mark good Spambayes emails as spam took the program about a month. MA> All in all a strong thumbs up from me. It's not free but it MA> seems effective and reliable. The only downsides are a MA> relative lack of settings to fiddle with (probably a positive MA> for most folks) and that I haven't seen an update yet. I MA> don't know what I want from an update - maybe I just expect MA> things to get updated as frequently as The Bat! I would like to see statistics in the information dialog. Also, I would like to be able to have some indication of the grading it is giving to email messages. I currently have the spam threshold set to 60. If I knew what values the program is assigning I could change the setting so possibly it caught those last few spam messages. (Yes, I know I can change the value and through trial and error see if there is a better spam threshold setting.) - -- Best regards, Brian Marcotte Using The Bat! v3.61.10 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.| 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: "" iQA/AwUBQ0WxEF0Izyy+kDY1EQJmmQCgkCl3unwOF7etFhLMMcnlQZ6NNcsAn3ZJ m3JA4uk2uEmzo7Q2X6okPJvI =KmYB -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Macro to "detach" an attachment
Hello all, Thursday, October 6, 2005, Philippe Macaire wrote: > I know the %ATTACHFILE macro which allows you to add a file to the > list of files attached to the message. > Is there a way to remove an attachment? I could imagine something like > %DETACHFILE("ex.txt")%- > or anything similar. no, it is not possible to remove attachment via filter action or macro, I have asked developers already and it is not possible yet. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.61.09 Echo (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AGAVA AntispamServant
Hello BWMarcotte, Thursday, October 6, 2005, 8:51:55 PM, you wrote: B> Approximately one and a half months ago I started using AGAVA B> AntispamServant plugin for The Bat!. After trialing it for a little B> more than a week I registered a copy. For the first month it still B> would sometimes flag a good message as spam but I am happy to say that B> for the last week it no longer flags any good messages as spam. It B> catches the bulk of the spam I receive but still does not flag some B> spam. With todays download of email the plugin caught 12 spam B> messages and let through 2 spam messages. I've also been using AGAVA for about a month and after the first few days of training it was reliably catching about 100 - 120 spam messages a day. The odd bit of spam gets through, usually identifiable by eye as being of a new variety, but after marking the first few of the new flavour of message it is catching the rest. I haven't had anything wrongly classified as spam since the first few days of training! All in all a strong thumbs up from me. It's not free but it seems effective and reliable. The only downsides are a relative lack of settings to fiddle with (probably a positive for most folks) and that I haven't seen an update yet. I don't know what I want from an update - maybe I just expect things to get updated as frequently as The Bat! -- Regards, Mark mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Macro to "detach" an attachment
Hi all, I know the %ATTACHFILE macro which allows you to add a file to the list of files attached to the message. Is there a way to remove an attachment? I could imagine something like %DETACHFILE("ex.txt")%- or anything similar. Thanks for the help. Regards, Phil. -- Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
AGAVA AntispamServant
I figured I would share my experience with AGAVA AntispamServant with the list. Approximately one and a half months ago I started using AGAVA AntispamServant plugin for The Bat!. After trialing it for a little more than a week I registered a copy. For the first month it still would sometimes flag a good message as spam but I am happy to say that for the last week it no longer flags any good messages as spam. It catches the bulk of the spam I receive but still does not flag some spam. With todays download of email the plugin caught 12 spam messages and let through 2 spam messages. -- Best regards, Brian Marcotte Using The Bat! v3.61.10 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 pgpQKl8Vs2O1y.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Some new setup problems
ON Thursday, October 6, 2005, 3:12:06 PM, you wrote: RO> When you've opened the first message, select: RO> View -> Show message list Roelof, I actually found it this time before I read your reply but thx, you were spot on as usual. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- No man ever steps in the same river twice, for it's not the same river and he's not the same man. -Heraclitus- Using The Bat! v3.60.07 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MailTicker behavior problems [was Re: Some new setup problems]
ON Thursday, October 6, 2005, 4:39:38 PM, you wrote: MB> Until our next Bat puzzle, best wishes and a happy day to you!! Hi Mary, I found it before reading Roelofs e-mail, which is difficult considering how quick Roelof always is. Thanks for your help but I am really hoping for less TB! puzzles :) So when is the manual to be finished :^) -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To give pleasure to a single heart by a single kind act is better than a thousand head-bowings in prayer. - Saddi - Using The Bat! v3.60.07 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat slowing down.
On 10/4/05, K. Shantanu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > * Roelof Otten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [051003 02:23]: > > He could use archive folders without purge and compress settings for > > older mail. > > He should see whether there are a lot of messages in his inboxes that > > > Thanks for the tips. We will indeed try "folder maintenance" and see the > results. > Well, I hope that works for you. The thing that bugs me is TB!'s insistence on counting all my emails on startup. Massive drive thrashing... Is there any way of getting TB! to cache this data or delay this activity or something like that? -- WL Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Bugtrack say "open => not a bug"
SC> As far as your original problem, I think that what they mean is that SC> the blue bar was what was supposed to be happening if you did not put SC> a check mark beside "Reply to HTML in palin text". This was working on SC> my version of TB! This box Checked or unchecked doesn't solve my trouble... :( -- WilWilWil :flag-france: TB 3.60.07 BayesIt! 0.8.4 Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MailTicker behavior problems [was Re: Some new setup problems]
Hello Gerard! On Thursday, October 06, 2005, 9:16 AM, you wrote: > I found it :) Congratulations! :) > You use the setting you have to "Open to new message viewer" > Then, with a msg displayed go to view-show msg list and your done :) I saw Roelof's post to you advising this. > Now you can click anywhere on the mailtiker and it will open this window > with all the msg headers and a view of the selected one. You can also do this for any message, however you've opened it, not just when you've opened it using the MailTicker. > That's the way I like it (aha aha) To each his own! < hehehe > That's not the way *I* like it! But then, I normally operate out of Folder View, as I noted in my earlier post to you in this thread. I'm glad it wasn't a bug in TB! that was giving you such fits, but just a lost setting--as you maintained to me all along! Until our next Bat puzzle, best wishes and a happy day to you!! -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.61.10 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MailTicker behavior problems [was Re: Some new setup problems]
ON Thursday, October 6, 2005, 1:42:17 PM, you wrote: MB> I have looked all over, and the only place I can find to deal with MB> MailTicker is in The Bat!/Options/Preferences/Messages/MailTicker. :( Hi Mary, I found it :) You use the setting you have to "Open to new message viewer" Then, with a msg displayed go to view-show msg list and your done :) Now you can click anywhere on the mailtiker and it will open this window with all the msg headers and a view of the selected one. That's the way I like it (aha aha) Another hidden TB! future re-found. Thanks for helping -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Facts are stupid things. -- Ronald Reagan Using The Bat! v3.60.07 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Some new setup problems
Hallo Gerard, On Thu, 6 Oct 2005 12:39:01 +0200GMT (6-10-2005, 12:39 +0200, where I live), you wrote: G> All I want is all my mailticker msgs to open in 1 single split screen were G> the headers are in the top and the msg viewer is at the bottom. I assume G> like most have there window setup. When you've opened the first message, select: View -> Show message list -- Groetjes, Roelof I'll stick with gin. Champagne is just ginger ale that knows somebody. - Hawkeye Pierce The Bat! 3.61.09 Echo (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgp2eWZ5BeHHd.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bugtrack say "open => not a bug"
Hello WilWilWil, Thursday, October 6, 2005, 6:09:06 AM, you wrote: W> In scope of html problem with blue cells tables when reply a mail, I've submit a bugtrack. W> Today, ritlabs send me a mail with this answer : "06 Oct 2005 W> 05:35 Diman Pavlov Resolution open => not a bug " I am not sure what has changed, but in 3.61.10, when quoting HTML I am no longer getting the blue bar, but I am still getting the HTML editor coming up. Any confirmations? Was this change intentional, and if so should it not have been menitoned in the list of changes with the new version. As far as your original problem, I think that what they mean is that the blue bar was what was supposed to be happening if you did not put a check mark beside "Reply to HTML in palin text". This was working on my version of TB! -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.61.10 Echo (Beta) on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
MailTicker behavior problems [was Re: Some new setup problems]
Hello Gerard! On Thursday, October 06, 2005, 5:39 AM, you wrote: MB>> 1) Open to new message viewer < ... > > ... it becomes irritating when you have more then a few in the mail > ticker. You are constantly closing windows and you don't have any > overview. MB>> 2) Focus to message MB>> ... When I clicked on the ... entry in the MailTicker,TB! put me MB>> in my Inbox ... And it showed me only ... the Folder Message List MB>> ... > THis get you hoping from one folder to an other if you like me have > the Ticker watch several folders in more then 1 account. Not ideal > either. MB>> Either this is a bug in the beta I'm running, or else it is MB>> working as designed. If it's working as designed, then the option MB>> Gerard wants does not exist--at least, it does not exist in the MB>> beta I'm running. (Sorry I can't test in a full release. I MB>> realize I'm posting to TBUDL.) > All I want is all my mailticker msgs to open in 1 single split > screen were the headers are in the top and the msg viewer is at the > bottom. I assume like most have there window setup. If I understand you correctly, then this is what I have with Option 1) above. I do not have multiple cascaded windows which I have to close. I click on an entry in the MailTicker. The message opens, just as if I had clicked on an entry in the message list of a Folder View window. With the window displaying the message I've opened *still* open, I click on the next entry in the MailTicker. The previous message which I opened disappears from my open window, and the message I've just clicked on appears. No new window is opened. However, in the tray, I see tabs labeled "View Folder." To return to the previously opened message, I can click on the tab. (Or if too many tabs for the tray, they are stacked vertically and I can see them when I click on my "The Bat" tab in the tray.) Effectively, MailTicker is putting me into the folder to which I have the message filtered. If I click on the toolbar buttons in the opened message, "Follow Next" or "Follow Previous," the messages as sorted in that particular folder will appear, even though I had opened the latest message in that folder from the MailTicker. Gerard, if you are seeing on your screen multiple windows, cascaded, that you have to keep closing in order to have an uncluttered screen, then you are not seeing what I see when I use the MailTicker set to "Open to new message viewer." Perhaps this is related to the version 3.60.07 which you have just installed. I don't actually use the MailTicker as my preferred message-viewing routine. I normally open the folder I want to read in from the Account/Folder tree. I read my series of messages unthreaded, sorted by None according to Received time. I like to read every message chronologically, in this way. However, if I'm working in another app, it's handy to have the MailTicker available--especially if I'm expecting a reply from someone. All that to say: I might have missed this erratic behavior in v. 3.60.07, when I did run it. That's so many versions ago, that I can't remember how long I used 3.60.07, or how much I tested it in its beta phase. On the other hand, it might be something local to you. Something as simple as having your Windows preferences set to cascade. > I had this setting in my previous version of TB!. It disappeared > when I installed the new version on my new PC. I am sure its there > but last time Roelof had to help me find it to :) So maybe it's time for me to bow out of the discussion and hand off the football to Roelof! ;) > The only thing I remember is that it wasn't in a logical place for > me. I have looked all over, and the only place I can find to deal with MailTicker is in The Bat!/Options/Preferences/Messages/MailTicker. :( -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.61.10 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Bugtrack say "open => not a bug"
Hi In scope of html problem with blue cells tables when reply a mail, I've submit a bugtrack. Today, ritlabs send me a mail with this answer : "06 Oct 2005 05:35 Diman Pavlov Resolution open => not a bug " I don't understand what does it mean... Before the 3.6x releases, answer html mails work correctly, but since, a lot of persons have troubles with tables and blue cells... The worst layout of an email I've never seen ! Why do they answer "not a bug" ? Why do they not neither work on the copy/paste problem... I'm not sure I will pay anymore in the future for bugged software and no consideration of message of customer... Bug for bug, why not using a free soft as foxmail ? http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5096 Thanks, -- WilWilWil :flag-france: TB 3.60.07 BayesIt! 0.8.4 Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Some new setup problems
Hi Mary, ON Wednesday, October 5, 2005, 2:01:54 PM, you wrote: MB> 1) Open to new message viewer MB>This is what I'm running, and it puts the messages one succeeding MB>another in the same window as I click on the entries in the MB>MailTicker. This is how I like it and how Gerard does not like it. Yes it becomes irritating when you have more then a few in the mail ticker. You are constantly closing windows and you don't have any overview. MB> 2) Focus to message MB>To test, I made this change. Result: When I clicked on the one MB>remaining unread entry in the MailTicker,TB! put me in my Inbox, MB>where a single message had been downloaded this morning. And it MB>showed me only the entry in the Folder Message List, ready for me to MB>click on. It did not show me an opened message. I don't like this, and MB>so I am resetting to "Open to new message viewer." THis get you hoping from one folder to an other if you like me have the Ticker watch several folders in more then 1 account. Not ideal either. MB> Either this is a bug in the beta I'm running, or else it is working as MB> designed. If it's working as designed, then the option Gerard wants MB> does not exist--at least, it does not exist in the beta I'm running. MB> (Sorry I can't test in a full release. I realize I'm posting to MB> TBUDL.) All I want is all my mailticker msgs to open in 1 single split screen were the headers are in the top and the msg viewer is at the bottom. I assume like most have there window setup. I had this setting in my previous version of TB!. It disappeared when I installed the new version on my new PC. I am sure its there but last time Roelof had to help me find it to :) The only thing I remember is that it wasn't in a logical place for me. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- If he was any dumber, we'd have to water him. Using The Bat! v3.60.07 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html