Re: Deleating mail from server
Hello Granville, On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GC I am with ISP Orange. It used to be Freeserve, then Wanadoo and now GC Orange. Recently I have not been able to control messages on the GC server via The Bat!. I have The Bat! configured to 'Delete messages GC from server when it is removed from trash'. This is no longer working. GC I have looked at the settings on the Orange server. Is this the way it GC is now or is there some setting I can adjust on The Bat! in order to GC manage my mail as I used to? I'm with Orange, as it is now, too have the same Trash setting. I have always assumed that deleting from Trash means deleting from server but, having just done a check, I see it's not the case. I even lowered my trash maximum message number, did a full maintenance (which is scheduled every night anyway) and still get the same number of messages on the server. Orange is deleting all the messages after the number of days to leave on server setting. Strange. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.81.18 RC2. POP3 account AntispamSniper plug-in | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Lists that don't overwrite the Reply-To header
Hi Chris, CW Is there some functionality of The Bat! that will help me when it CW comes to mailing lists that don't replace the reply-to header with the CW list's address? CW Is there some sort of options that can be toggled or a template that CW can be used. CW If I remember correctly, pine (a CLI-based IMAP client) would ask me CW whether I wanted to reply to the sender or the list. One thing I've done is to include the Reply-To: field in the headers, so that I can edit it when creating a reply. I set this by right-clicking in the headers area. That shows a context menu, listing the various headers with a check mark for what should be visible. That's so manual, I doubt it's what you're looking for 8/ I'm uncertain if this helps, since its more focused on ListServs/groups than mailing lists.? Things which can be separated by filters. I've created a folder called ListServs. I think its a Common Folder; its at the same hierarchy level as the Inboxes, not under them. Then, I have folders under ListServs for each group and filters, which sort the messages into those folders, right? So I've got like: \\\ListServs \\\ListServs\TheBat \\\ListServs\EurForum etc. Each of those folders has their own Properties dialog, with an Identity tab. And that's the trick I'm using. I set the Reply-To info for the folder/ListServ/Group from the Identities tab on a per-group basis. Not sure how that will interact with the various templates. -- HTH, David Win][k sp4 TheBat 3.0 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Deleating mail from server
Hello Richard, Monday, September 4, 2006, 8:38:55 AM, you wrote: Richard Hello Granville, Richard On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GC I am with ISP Orange. It used to be Freeserve, then Wanadoo and now GC Orange. Recently I have not been able to control messages on the GC server via The Bat!. I have The Bat! configured to 'Delete messages GC from server when it is removed from trash'. This is no longer working. GC I have looked at the settings on the Orange server. Is this the way it GC is now or is there some setting I can adjust on The Bat! in order to GC manage my mail as I used to? Richard I'm with Orange, as it is now, too have the same Trash setting. I have Richard always assumed that deleting from Trash means deleting from server but, Richard having just done a check, I see it's not the case. I even lowered my Richard trash maximum message number, did a full maintenance (which is scheduled Richard every night anyway) and still get the same number of messages on the Richard server. Richard Orange is deleting all the messages after the number of days to leave Richard on server setting. Strange. Richard -- Richard Regards, Richard Richard Richard | The Bat! 3.81.18 RC2. POP3 account AntispamSniper plug-in Richard | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 Richard | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot Richard Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Richard Richard Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: Richard http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Yes, what a pain. I thought with time and increased knowledge things would get more easy. Well Orange have definately made this opperation more troublesome. Now I have to log onto their server everyday and detete the messages manually. I need to do this because the volume of spam mails builds up quite quickly. I run K9 on my computer and it works fine. Can anyone think a a solution to this problem with Orange? Granville. -- Love and Light, Granvillemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Deleating mail from server
Hello Granville, On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 13:27:55 +0100 GMT (04/09/2006, 19:27 +0700 GMT), Granville Cousins wrote: GC Yes, what a pain. I thought with time and increased knowledge things GC would get more easy. Well Orange have definately made this opperation GC more troublesome. Now I have to log onto their server everyday and GC detete the messages manually. I need to do this because the volume of GC spam mails builds up quite quickly. I run K9 on my computer and it GC works fine. Can anyone think a a solution to this problem with Orange? I don't know how TB handles the Delete messages on server when deleted from trash. I would assume it issues a DEL command for the UID, and if that doesn't work, it could mean that Orange doesn't handle the DEL command correctly. But I wonder why you care. GMX also deletes messages on server after 60 days (the free accounts; paid-for account can store them forever), and TB won't download them again, so I have no problem if they stay there for some time. Why do you need to delete them from the server by yourself? -- Cheers, Thomas. Top 10 Reasons To Go To Work Naked: 3. Diverts attention from the fact that you also came to work drunk. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.81.16 Beta under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Lists that don't overwrite the Reply-To header
David Earl @ 2006-9-03 3:31:08 AM Lists that don't overwrite the Reply-To header mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Each of those folders has their own Properties dialog, with an Identity tab. And that's the trick I'm using. I set the Reply-To info for the folder/ListServ/Group from the Identities tab on a per-group basis. Not sure how that will interact with the various templates. Oddly. I've been burned by folder-level templates etc. before, so I'm going to go the manual route. Right-click on the mailing list address and reply to that. Then, all my nice and fancy templates are invoked automatically. -- Chris Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. In a Nonsmoking Area: If we see smoking we will assume you are on fire and take appropriate action. pgp1WtZF44hZO.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Deleating mail from server
Hello Granville, On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GC I run K9 on my computer and it works fine. Can anyone think a a GC solution to this problem with Orange? Maybe I can help. I used to use SpamPal and it was very satisfactory but I read about AntispamSniper and that it could be used with Voyager as well so thought I'd give it a try. There's a free and registered version. I tried the free one and registered within a day as it was so good and so easy to set up. With the registered version you have the option to check for spam on the server, on the server and TB! or just on TB!. Originally I just did it on TB! but, after reading about your (and my) problem with Orange of which I had no idea, I decided to retry the server side checking which meant that I could delete all Spam on the server. It took an absolute eternity as it reads messages in blocks of 20 and then thinks about them for ages before dealing with them and moving on to the next 20 so you can reckon on your TB! connection being totally tied up for about 7 minutes per 100 messages. However, after that first check, it then only has to check with any new messages so is obviously very quick indeed. The advantage of this is that you can set AntispamSniper to delete messages higher than any score you want. I have mine set at 75 and there are very few messages that get past that to the Junk Mail folder. Since I started using it about 3 months ago I've only had a couple of false negatives and that was right at the beginning. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.81.18 RC2. POP3 account AntispamSniper plug-in | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot | CPU: Athlon 1.09 Ghz | RAM: 1024 MB Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Deleating mail from server
Hello Thomas, On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TF Why do you need to delete them from the server by yourself? I know this wasn't addressed to me but I used to be on a mailing list that had a vast amount of JPGs enclosed with most messages and I had my provider write to me on several occasions that my mail box was getting full so I certainly had to clear out sometimes to make some space. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.81.18 RC2. POP3 account AntispamSniper plug-in | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot | CPU: Athlon 1.09 Ghz | RAM: 1024 MB Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Release....
Hello Simon! On Monday, September 04, 2006, 2:43 PM, you wrote: The current Beta cycle seem to be closed Pro http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-85-01.msi Home http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_home_3-85-01.msi Thanks a million for letting us know, Simon. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.81.18 RC2 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Release....
Hello Simon! On Monday, September 04, 2006, 2:48 PM, you wrote: MB Thanks a million for letting us know, Simon. No worries... so far so good too!... 5 mins in... :)) Three minutes in. :) There seems to be some sort of looping behavior in the msi installer. After I clicked Finish, it went back to the beginning. Puzzled, I clicked Next, and the EULA agreement came up. So I hit the Cancel, and then I clicked on my TB! Desktop icon. All seems well--Help/About says I've got the latest, as does Help/Check for update. It's receiving mail and sending okay. :thumbup: Insert Smile dialogue window is somewhat improved, for which I'm quite pleased. Although, some of the flag images still overlap. I wish we could get a resizeable window for this. All in all, except for an unfixed bug or two, and an unmet wish or two, this looks to be a stable version of which we can all be proud. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.85.01 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Release....
On Mon 4-Sep-06 2:43pm -0600, Simon wrote: The current Beta cycle seem to be closed Pro http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-85-01.msi Home http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_home_3-85-01.msi Very interesting. There have been no announcements and help / check for update reports nothing available. -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro :beta: 3.81.18 RC2 BayesIt! 0.8.4 X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Release....
Hello Simon! On Monday, September 04, 2006, 3:39 PM, you wrote: MB All in all, except for an unfixed bug or two, and an MB unmet wish or two, this looks to be a stable version of MB which we can all be proud. Absolutely! I think you have to accept really that all software has bugs and is a work in motion... :) or is that flight... A work like space travel! g :timemachine: :beammeup: h2g2 :thumbup: -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.85.01 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Upgrade?
Hello one and all, I received notification that a bug I had commented on has been fixed in the latest (or close to the latest) version of The Bat!. Can I go to the RIT Labs home page and simply download the latest version without having to shell out any more money? We used to be able to do this but the version I'm using now we had to pay for. -- TIA, Jack LaRosa mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Conveying information with The Bat! ver: 3.80.06 Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade?
Hello Jack, On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] JSL We used to be able to do this but the version I'm using now we had JSL to pay for. Yup, no charge as it's just an upgrade of version 3. Actually, it's a release version as of today. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.85.01. POP3 account AntispamSniper plug-in | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot | CPU: Athlon 1.09 Ghz | RAM: 1024 MB Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade?
Hello Jack! On Monday, September 04, 2006, 4:08 PM, you wrote: Can I go to the RIT Labs home page and simply download the latest version without having to shell out any more money? We used to be able to do this but the version I'm using now we had to pay for. Yes, go ahead and get v. 3.85.01. So long as we are in the 3.xx series, your current registration number is good. I simply installed v. 3.85.01 over my current (beta) 3.81.18--which was the beta rar for the 3.80.06 msi install. And I was good to go. My registration number was automatically entered. We had to pay for the upgrade (at a discount) from the 2.xx series to the 3.xx series. I expect that when and if 4.xx comes along, there'll be an upgrade charge then. For now, no worries. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.85.01 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Deleating mail from server
Hello Richard, On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 19:16:32 +0200 GMT (05/09/2006, 00:16 +0700 GMT), Richard Wakeford wrote: TF Why do you need to delete them from the server by yourself? RW I know this wasn't addressed to me but I used to be on a mailing list RW that had a vast amount of JPGs enclosed with most messages and I had my RW provider write to me on several occasions that my mail box was getting RW full so I certainly had to clear out sometimes to make some space. I see. Most free email addresses nowadays give you 1 GB of space, I never got beyond the 5% mark... ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Nachdem die Maenner 100m gekrault hatten, wickelten die Frauen ihre 200m Brust ab. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.81.16 Beta under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Release....
Hello Bill! On Monday, September 04, 2006, 3:32 PM, you wrote: The current Beta cycle seem to be closed Pro http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-85-01.msi Home http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_home_3-85-01.msi Very interesting. There have been no announcements and help / check for update reports nothing available. See http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php , which is the Ritlabs Website's download page address. Why Help/Check for updates says no updates is anybody's guess. As is why RitLabs did not announce the release here on TBBETA. :( -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.85.01 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problems Restoring Email
Howdy, I am having problems installing my email. I recently had to re-install XP. I did a full account backup on the 30th August. I recieved a new computer yesterday. I installed the latest version and The Bat and restored all my email. The problem is that The Bat won't download all my email since the 30th. Only what I have received today. How do I get it to download ALL email since the backup? I am using Gmail for your Domain. I have never had this problem before. It won't work on my laptop either. Hope it can be fixed. Thanks, Scott Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
