Exchange help

2007-01-25 Thread Peter Fjelsten

Hello

I am new to the Exchange protocol (I have been accessing the Exchange  
server at work via IMAP and here it works as expected. However, IMAP  
is no premitted at my work), so a couple of things puzzle me:


If I manipulate mail (move, delete, etc) in Outlook 2003, the  
manipulations carry over to TB. But if I manipulate in TB, the  
manipulations do not carry over to Outlook. Why?


Why do mail in the Outbox not carry over between profiles?

If I select Delete from server when having fetched mail, will the  
mail also be deleted from Outlook?


Is the TB Exchange protocol broken?

I have set up Exchange in TB to use the profile I use in Outlook and  
leave mail on the server.


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Re: bat and router

2007-01-25 Thread MAU
Hello Chris,

 You mean the developers cannot force time into another dimension? :-)

Oh yes! They can, they all do it every day. When they say that something
will be ready in 2 weeks, the dimension converter will tell you that
in normal persons' dimension this means 2 or 7 months ;)

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Re: bat and router

2007-01-25 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Miguel!

On Thursday, January 25, 2007, 4:45 AM, you wrote:

 You mean the developers cannot force time into another dimension? :-)

 Oh yes! They can, they all do it every day. When they say that something
 will be ready in 2 weeks, the dimension converter will tell you that
 in normal persons' dimension this means 2 or 7 months ;)

And when they ignore and don't promise a fix at all? Does that mean
they're in a separate time and also a separate space?

These boxed smilies are *really* beginning to annoy me!

So, Miguel, is there a BT report on them that I can support?

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Re: bat and router

2007-01-25 Thread MAU
Hello Mary,

 You mean the developers cannot force time into another dimension? :-)

 Oh yes! They can, they all do it every day. When they say that something
 will be ready in 2 weeks, the dimension converter will tell you that
 in normal persons' dimension this means 2 or 7 months ;)

 And when they ignore and don't promise a fix at all? Does that mean
 they're in a separate time and also a separate space?

No, it means that they don't know how to fix it but will not admit it
;-)

 These boxed smilies are really beginning to annoy me!

Switch to PTV. :)

 So, Miguel, is there a BT report on them that I can support?

I don't think so because AFAIK it's not a bug, it's WAD for RTV.

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Re: bat and router

2007-01-25 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Miguel!

On Thursday, January 25, 2007, 6:31 AM, you wrote:

 You mean the developers cannot force time into another dimension? :-)

 Oh yes! They can, they all do it every day. When they say that something
 will be ready in 2 weeks, the dimension converter will tell you that
 in normal persons' dimension this means 2 or 7 months ;)

 And when they ignore and don't promise a fix at all? Does that mean
 they're in a separate time and also a separate space?

 No, it means that they don't know how to fix it but will not admit it
 ;-)

:rofl:

 These boxed smilies are really beginning to annoy me!

 Switch to PTV. :)

So, of course then the boxes disappear.

But, then, I can't see my pretty smiley images, that way either, of
course. And I do miss them. Some of them are animated, especially the
PCWIZE collection. I'm a child at heart, and I like the fun of them.

http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/PCWSmileys.php

 So, Miguel, is there a BT report on them that I can support?

 I don't think so because AFAIK it's not a bug, it's WAD for RTV.

No pictures called, ever again, then? Bummer. :(

Off to write an entry in The Bat! Wishes at BT, then, simply for the
satisfaction of letting off a little steam.

Fully working HTML presented to TB! users, but no Smiley .msl
function. What a laugh!!

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Re: bat and router

2007-01-25 Thread MAU
Hello Mary,

 But, then, I can't see my pretty smiley images, that way either, of
 course. And I do miss them. Some of them are animated, especially the
 PCWIZE collection. I'm a child at heart, and I like the fun of them.

Do you really need any of the functionality in this last version? Think
about it and revert to a version with smileys :)

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Re: bat and router

2007-01-25 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Miguel!

On Thursday, January 25, 2007, 7:17 AM, you wrote:

 But, then, I can't see my pretty smiley images, that way either, of
 course. And I do miss them. Some of them are animated, especially
 the PCWIZE collection. I'm a child at heart, and I like the fun of
 them.

 Do you really need any of the functionality in this last version?
 Think about it and revert to a version with smileys :)

Good suggestion.

However, I'm still beta testing, even though, for personal reasons, I
am no longer posting on TBBETA.

So, I hate to see RitLabs abandon the .msl plus resident icons and
pics in The Bat!/Images feature.

And I think I am not alone in this.

Smiley-image haters are simply more vocal, I think.

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Re: bat and router

2007-01-25 Thread MAU
Hello Mary,

 So, I hate to see RitLabs abandon the .msl plus resident icons and
 pics in The Bat!/Images feature.

 And I think I am not alone in this.

 Smiley-image haters are simply more vocal, I think.

There must be other reason. Smiley-image haters or I couldn't care
less users can very easily turn Smiles off by RMBing on message view.

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The Bat!/Images/default.msl, .pcwsmileys.msl gone for good? [was Re: bat and router]

2007-01-25 Thread Mary Bull
Hello MAU!

On Thursday, January 25, 2007, 8:52 AM, you wrote:

 So, I hate to see RitLabs abandon the .msl plus resident icons and
 pics in The Bat!/Images feature.

 And I think I am not alone in this.

 Smiley-image haters are simply more vocal, I think.

 There must be other reason. Smiley-image haters or I couldn't care
 less users can very easily turn Smiles off by RMBing on message view.

Perhaps, after all, it is a bug inadvertently introduced into TB!'s
code.

But, the developers, so far, are not commenting on this strange
rendition of text in a box rather than the actual icon or image
formerly displayed with RTV in the View windows, when Smileys are
enabled..

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Re: Exchange help

2007-01-25 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Thursday, January 25, 2007, 2:09:42 AM, Peter Fjelsten wrote:

 I am new to the Exchange protocol (I have been accessing the
 Exchange server at work via IMAP and here it works as expected.
 However, IMAP   is no premitted at my work), so a couple of things
 puzzle me:

Thank you for asking these questions, as I have also been puzzled by
them.

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Re: The Bat!/Images/default.msl, .pcwsmileys.msl gone for good? [was Re: bat and router]

2007-01-25 Thread MAU
Hello Mary,

 Perhaps, after all, it is a bug inadvertently introduced into TB!'s
 code.

A bug that draws perfect rectangles around smileys? No way :-)

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Re: The Bat!/Images/default.msl, .pcwsmileys.msl gone for good? [was Re: bat and router]

2007-01-25 Thread Mary Bull
Hello MAU!

On Thursday, January 25, 2007, 10:52 AM, you wrote:

 Perhaps, after all, it is a bug inadvertently introduced into TB!'s
 code.

 A bug that draws perfect rectangles around smileys? No way :-)

Smiley text! Not Smiley images!

LOL

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Smileys (was: bat and router)

2007-01-25 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Mary,

on Thu, 25 Jan 2007 07:30:05 -0600GMT (25.01.2007, 14:30 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

MB On Thursday, January 25, 2007, 7:17 AM, you wrote:

 But, then, I can't see my pretty smiley images, that way either, of
 course. And I do miss them. Some of them are animated, especially
 the PCWIZE collection. I'm a child at heart, and I like the fun of
 them.

 Do you really need any of the functionality in this last version?
 Think about it and revert to a version with smileys :)

MB Good suggestion.

MB However, I'm still beta testing, even though, for personal reasons, I
MB am no longer posting on TBBETA.

MB So, I hate to see RitLabs abandon the .msl plus resident icons and
MB pics in The Bat!/Images feature.

MB And I think I am not alone in this.

No, you're not! :) I reverted to the last beta before this MSI for
that reason. It has the same version number, although it's not the
same. It still shows the Christmas splash screen and Smilies work
well. :))

MB Smiley-image haters are simply more vocal, I think.

If I were a smiley-hater, I would just turn them off! :lol:

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Re: Smileys (was: bat and router)

2007-01-25 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Peter!

On Thursday, January 25, 2007, 12:27 PM, you wrote:

MB ... I hate to see RitLabs abandon the .msl plus resident icons
MB and pics in The Bat!/Images feature.

MB And I think I am not alone in this.

 No, you're not! :) I reverted to the last beta before this MSI for
 that reason. It has the same version number, although it's not the
 same. It still shows the Christmas splash screen and Smilies work
 well. :))

Then I am going back.

I may not beta test any more until the developers announce that they
have put the .msl function back into the code.

MB Smiley-image haters are simply more vocal, I think.

 If I were a smiley-hater, I would just turn them off! :lol:

Some are very righteous about it, though. ;)

And Miguel's opinion is that this is deliberate coding by the
developers.

Abandoning all 9Val's and Leif's hard work. :(

I feel abandoned, too. :boohoo:

http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/PCWSmileys.php

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Re: Smileys

2007-01-25 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Mary,

on Thu, 25 Jan 2007 12:39:31 -0600GMT (25.01.2007, 19:39 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

MB Smiley-image haters are simply more vocal, I think.

 If I were a smiley-hater, I would just turn them off! :lol:

MB Some are very righteous about it, though. ;)

MB And Miguel's opinion is that this is deliberate coding by the
MB developers.

Why would they? I just started a new trial with a Linux partition, and
even KMail shows smilies. I haven't looked yet, if they can be turned
off at all... :))

MB Abandoning all 9Val's and Leif's hard work. :(

MB I feel abandoned, too. :boohoo:

Don't! :kissy: ;)

MB http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/PCWSmileys.php

Exactly! :B

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Re: Smileys

2007-01-25 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Peter!

On Thursday, January 25, 2007, 1:06 PM, you wrote:

MB ... Miguel's opinion is that this is deliberate coding by the
MB developers.

 Why would they? I just started a new trial with a Linux partition,
 and even KMail shows smilies. I haven't looked yet, if they can be
 turned off at all... :))

I am going to file a bug report.

Reason:

Alexander S. Kunz tried to post to this thread, but it didn't come
through for some reason, so he sent me a PM.

Alex did a custom install of v. 3.95.08 msi, and chose to install only
the .exe.

Then he put his reserved Smiley files back in manually.

The Smiley icons and pictures show just fine for him.

My conclusion: the complete msi install package has a bug in it.

Maxim has evidently not understood this, from the discussions that I
read on TBBETA.

If he doesn't get alerted, the situation could continue right on
through the next release.

I'm going to file a bug report now. Stay tuned. I'll be back with a
new thread here, afterward.

MB Abandoning all 9Val's and Leif's hard work. :(

MB I feel abandoned, too. :boohoo:

 Don't! :kissy: ;)

:bearhug:

I feel better already. Thanks, Peter.

And thanks, Alex! :)

MB http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/PCWSmileys.php

 Exactly! :B

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BugTracker issue report on msi v.3.95.08 display of Smileys

2007-01-25 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Peter and Everyone Else Interested in Proper Display of Smileys!

Please support:

https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6190

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BugTracker issue report on msi v.3.95.08 display of Smileys

2007-01-25 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Peter and Everyone Else Interested in Proper Display of Smileys!

Please support:

https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6190

P.S. Peter, please forgive my misspelling of your name in the subject
line of my first post in this thread. Was struggling with TB!'s desire
to over-ride my addressing in the To: field and messed up big time.
Sorry. My bad. :(

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Re: Smileys (was: bat and router)

2007-01-25 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Mary,

Thursday, January 25, 2007, 11:39:31 AM, you wrote:
 Abandoning all 9Val's and Leif's hard work. :(

Just chiming in even though I haven't followed the whole thread and
basing what I'm about to say off something I think I remember hearing.
I could be wrong and am willing to take a hit on it.

Weren't the developers working on something along the lines of smart
tags like *bold*, /italics/ type thing. I wonder if this is where
it's coming from. Is it totally disregarding the .msl? i.e. if you use
:gdr:

Does that one work and it's just the uber common smileys that got
the different look?


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Re: BugTracker issue report on msi v.3.95.08 display of Smileys

2007-01-25 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Mary,

on Thu, 25 Jan 2007 13:55:21 -0600GMT (25.01.2007, 20:55 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

MB P.S. Peter, please forgive my misspelling of your name in the subject
MB line of my first post in this thread. Was struggling with TB!'s desire
MB to over-ride my addressing in the To: field and messed up big time.
MB Sorry. My bad. :(

I wouldn't have noticed if you hadn't mentioned it... :lol:

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Re: Smileys (was: bat and router)

2007-01-25 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Leif!

On Thursday, January 25, 2007, 1:58 PM, you wrote:

 Abandoning all 9Val's and Leif's hard work. :(

 Just chiming in even though I haven't followed the whole thread and
 basing what I'm about to say off something I think I remember
 hearing. I could be wrong and am willing to take a hit on it.

Always so courteous. :)

 Weren't the developers working on something along the lines of smart
 tags like *bold*, /italics/ type thing. I wonder if this is where
 it's coming from. ...

Haven't heard that, but if so it could be related.

 Is it totally disregarding the .msl? i.e. if you use
 :gdr:

It's displayed as gdr (with the colons) and a rectangular box around
it.

 Does that one work and it's just the uber common smileys that got
 the different look?

None of them work. Neither the PCWIZE collection nor the DEFAULT
collection.

It's as if the .msl's ability to call the image were broken.

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Re: Smileys (was: bat and router)

2007-01-25 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Mary,

Thursday, January 25, 2007, 1:19:05 PM, you wrote:
 It's as if the .msl's ability to call the image were broken.
 Thanks for chiming in, Leif.


Ahhh. Well, so much for my $.02 then.. grin

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Re: BugTracker issue report on msi v.3.95.08 display of Smileys

2007-01-25 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Peter!

On Thursday, January 25, 2007, 2:02 PM, you wrote:

MB P.S. Peter, please forgive my misspelling of your name in the subject
MB line of my first post in this thread. Was struggling with TB!'s desire
MB to over-ride my addressing in the To: field and messed up big time.
MB Sorry. My bad. :(

 I wouldn't have noticed if you hadn't mentioned it... :lol:

You're always so kind!

Anyway, thanks for the supporting note at
http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6190

Much appreciaated! :thankyou:

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Re: Smileys (was: bat and router)

2007-01-25 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Leif!

On Thursday, January 25, 2007, 2:40 PM, you wrote:

 It's as if the .msl's ability to call the image were broken.
 Thanks for chiming in, Leif.

 Ahhh. Well, so much for my $.02 then.. grin

Leif, when you get time, could you do a complete msi install of this,
over the version you're presently running:

http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-95-08.msi

Just to test.

Afterwards, perhaps you would have time to put a support note at:
http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6190

Would be much appreciated and rate a :kiss: or a :bearhug: from me and
maybe from Charlene.  grin 

It's from tbbeta mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

The changes mentioned relate to Windows Vista Manager, to label
placement in the SMTP authentication dialogue, and a larger window for
the installation wizard.

That's it. Not a word about Smileys or tags.

So, I think something else inadvertently got done in writing the msi
version.

Thanks a mil!

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Re: Smileys (was: bat and router)

2007-01-25 Thread George Mitchell
Mary Bull wrote:

 Does that one work and it's just the uber common smileys that got
 the different look?

MB None of them work. Neither the PCWIZE collection nor the DEFAULT
MB collection.

MB It's as if the .msl's ability to call the image were broken.

I think that's it exactly.  My guess would be that smileys breaking is
the result of a half-finished feature.  I'm using the txt2html.regexps
trick to turn some external image links into links to images on my
hard drive.  This quit working along with the smileys, so it's not
just the .msl mechanism that broke.  If Ritlabs is really working on
enabling selected external image links, perhaps smileys will resume
working when they're done.

Strange they've been silent on this topic.

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Re: Smileys

2007-01-25 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Mary,

On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 13:23:11 -0600GMT (25-1-2007, 20:23 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

MB Alex did a custom install of v. 3.95.08 msi, and chose to install only
MB the .exe.

I chose the full install

MB Then he put his reserved Smiley files back in manually.

I didn't do that

MB The Smiley icons and pictures show just fine for him.

They do for me too.

MB My conclusion: the complete msi install package has a bug in it.

Cannot confirm

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Backup and Address Books

2007-01-25 Thread Mike Greenbaum

I regularly use the backup utility of The Bat! to backup my mail files.

What's annoying is that every time I must re-select which address books I want 
to back up.

I don't understand why I can't set a default for which address books I want 
backed up--with the option to change them if I want. 

Instead, I'm given some option by TheBat! which I must uncheck (Intermediate 
CA--I have no idea what that is and don't use it) and then re-check the ones I 
want.

Why does the utility not give me the option of setting the address book backup 
defaults?

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Re: Backup and Address Books

2007-01-25 Thread Akebono Translation Service
Dear Mike,

 I regularly use the backup utility of The Bat! to backup my mail files.
 What's annoying is that every time I must re-select which address books I 
 want to back up.

I *think* the last selection is automatically remembered if you back-up using 
the scheduler, but someone please correct me if I'm wrong. 

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IMPORTANT: All delivery dates stated in quotes are as of the moment the quote
was sent and can change as soon as other projects come in.
BELANGRIJK: Bij alle leveringsdata in offertes gaan we uit van de agenda op dat
moment. De data kunnen wijzigen zodra er andere projecten binnenkomen.

Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html