Re: Exchange help
Alexander, Quoting Alexander Kunz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The MAPI mode of TB looks like a mixture between IMAP and POP3. It finds the serverside folder structure, but it downloads the messages into a local cache as it seems, or whatever. This was my feeling as well. I think Ritlabs have quite some nerve to call it Exhange protocol. Anyone would think it would behave like Outlook which of course, it doesn't at all. I haven't found the same in MAPI accounts (and didn't bother to check either I must admit, because IMAP is so much better). I agree regardign IMAP, but IMAP - for some ridiculous reason - has been disallowed at my work. Ritlabs, any comments? -- Peter Fjelsten Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backup and Address Books
Hallo Loek, On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 07:17:08 +0100GMT (26-1-2007, 7:17 +0100, where I live), you wrote: I regularly use the backup utility of The Bat! to backup my mail files. What's annoying is that every time I must re-select which address books I want to back up. LVK I *think* the last selection is automatically remembered if you LVK back-up using the scheduler, I think the same, but then I deleted all those extra address books in my setup. LVK -- Please don't leave out the trailing space of your cutsign. After all you've a rather substantial signature. A correct signature delimiter is: dash dash space enter -- Groetjes, Roelof Computer: Tea, earl gray, hot. In a cup this time! http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.95.8 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgp3JkkDTI9Op.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backup and Address Books
Dear Roelof, Please don't leave out the trailing space of your cutsign. After all you've a rather substantial signature. A correct signature delimiter is: dash dash space enter I made a few changes recently and changed the signature into a Quick Template (in which it is impossible to spot whether a trailing space is for real or not). Let's see if this works. Best regards, Loek van Kooten -- Akebono Translation Service Rijnstraat 32 2311 NK Leiden The Netherlands Tel: +31-71-5128026 Fax: +31-84-7390618 www.akebono.nl Algemene voorwaarden: www.akebono.nl/algemeen.doc Terms and conditions: www.akebono.nl/terms.doc Reg.no. Chamber of Commerce: 28066372 IMPORTANT: All delivery dates stated in quotes are as of the moment the quote was sent and can change as soon as other projects come in. BELANGRIJK: Bij alle leveringsdata in offertes gaan we uit van de agenda op dat moment. De data kunnen wijzigen zodra er andere projecten binnenkomen. Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backup and Address Books
Hallo Loek, On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:27:10 +0100GMT (26-1-2007, 12:27 +0100, where I live), you wrote: LVK Let's see if this works. Yes -- Groetjes, Roelof Live short and fester. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.95.8 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpQ0k1UtjRZk.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Database engine
Dear all, I suspect The Bat is interfering with another program I'm using... Does anyone know whether The Bat uses Microsoft's Jet Engine? Best regards, Loek van Kooten -- Akebono Translation Service Rijnstraat 32 2311 NK Leiden The Netherlands Tel: +31-71-5128026 Fax: +31-84-7390618 www.akebono.nl Algemene voorwaarden: www.akebono.nl/algemeen.doc Terms and conditions: www.akebono.nl/terms.doc Chamber of Commerce reg. no.: 28066372 IMPORTANT: All delivery dates stated in quotes are as of the moment the quote was sent and can change as soon as other projects come in. BELANGRIJK: Bij alle leveringsdata in offertes gaan we uit van de agenda op dat moment. De data kunnen wijzigen zodra er andere projecten binnenkomen. Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys
Hello Roelof, Thursday, January 25, 2007, 7:39:54 PM, you wrote: Snip They do for me too. MB My conclusion: the complete msi install package has a bug in it. Cannot confirm Do you have the Christmas splash screen still. I installed the msi on 2 machines, one changed to the regular splash screen and smileys don't work and the other kept the Christmas theme and smileys work. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.95.8 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Database engine
Hello Akebono, Friday, January 26, 2007, 15:01:30, you wrote: Does anyone know whether The Bat uses Microsoft's Jet Engine? No, it doesn't. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Backup and Address Books
I regularly use the backup utility of The Bat! to backup my mail files. What's annoying is that every time I must re-select which address books I want to back up. LVK I *think* the last selection is automatically remembered if you LVK back-up using the scheduler, I think the same, but then I deleted all those extra address books in my setup. I had deleted the Intermediate and Trusted Root Folders from my Address Book, but they still showed up in the backup utility list. So I went to C:\Program Files\TheBat!|Mail and found they were still there. So I deleted them from that folder. I closed TB, reopened it, and checked the backup utility. The Intermediate and Trusted Root items were still there. I went back to Program Files\TheBat!\Mail only to find the folders I'd deleted had been apparently recreated when I reopened TB. Wonder why this is. Seems unfriendly of TB to continue to force me to deal with something I don't want. -- Mike Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: bat and router
Hello Alexander, Thursday, January 25, 2007, 0:28:20, you wrote: That doesn't explain why there's no delay when using Outlook Express (if the same mailserver is used, that is). Outlook doesn't send the fully-qualified symbolic host name (FQDN) to the server, which is also problematic. It may not work where the other mail clients work. Here are some references: 1. http://groups.google.co.uk/group/microsoft.public.outlook.installation/browse_frm/thread/476cf8701fc0b0ea/7a9d7ec7ecec78c0?lnk=stq=outlook+smtp+ehlo 2. http://groups.google.co.uk/group/mailing.postfix.users/browse_frm/thread/d7d249e4997f3a49/93e7003d0423c06d?lnk=stq=outlook+smtp+ehlo+FQDNrnum=9hl=en 3. http://groups.google.co.uk/group/microsoft.public.outlook.general/browse_frm/thread/32ae229743106d65/236f0a3de3c141b3?lnk=stq=outlook+smtp+ehlo+FQDNrnum=8hl=en 4. http://groups.google.co.uk/group/microsoft.public.outlook/browse_frm/thread/e904fb01d454a8f3/f4f15fc2c05413cd?lnk=stq=outlook+smtp+ehlo+FQDNrnum=6hl=en 5. http://groups.google.co.uk/group/microsoft.public.outlook.installation/browse_frm/thread/476cf8701fc0b0ea/7a9d7ec7ecec78c0?lnk=stq=outlook+smtp+ehlo+FQDNrnum=1hl=en -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Exchange help
Hello Peter, Thursday, January 25, 2007, 10:09:42, you wrote: If I manipulate mail (move, delete, etc) in Outlook 2003, the manipulations carry over to TB. But if I manipulate in TB, the manipulations do not carry over to Outlook. Why? As the other TBBETA subscribers have already replied, The Bat! does only provide one-way mode of working with the messages on Exchange server. You can only download the messages from the server, but you cannot upload anything back. Your changes (e.g. move a message, rename a folder, etc.) will remain local and won't affect the Exchange or Outlook message base. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
Hello Marck, Time to automate?... Which quite isn't the same as auto mate :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 3.95.8 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Alexander S. Kunz schrieb: Do you have the Christmas splash screen still. I installed the msi on 2 machines, one changed to the regular splash screen and smileys don't work and the other kept the Christmas theme and smileys work. And *both* are 3.95.08?!? Yes they are indeed. One from the MSI with the normal splash screen and smileys disabled, and one from the last beta RAR with the Christmas screen and smileys working. As a matter of fact, both show 3.95.8 as the version number, lacking the zero... -- Cheers Peter Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: bat and router
Hello Alexander, Friday, January 26, 2007, 20:02:32, you wrote: And can we *please* have a configuration switch to turn that... thing... in TB *ON* or *OFF* as the user prefers it? ;-) What should The Bat! send as the argument when it is OFF? The name of the computer, returned by GetComputerName()? What if it contains national characters, which usually happens in Russian windows? -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
Hello, Citing myself once more: MP Hello Marck, MP Time to automate?... Which quite isn't the same as auto mate :-) You stupid man! Can't you see the difference between TBUDL TBBETA? -- Best wishes, Mark __ Message made with The Bat, 3.95.8 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Alexander! On Friday, January 26, 2007, 11:58 AM, you wrote to Stuart Cuddy: Do you have the Christmas splash screen still. I installed the msi on 2 machines, one changed to the regular splash screen and smileys don't work and the other kept the Christmas theme and smileys work. And both are 3.95.08?!? Here they both are 3.95.08, except that they both also report themselves in Help/About as 3.95.8. When I was seeing text versions of the Smileys surrounded with rectangular boxes, the splash screen was the usual one. Now that I reverted to the 3.95.8 rar, the splash screen is the Christmas edition screen, and the Smiley images are called. There is obviously something in the code of msi 3.95.08 that causes so many of us to have non-functioning Smileys. Perhaps those of you who were able to install msi 3.95.08 and keep functioning Smileys can do so because of how you handled the original Smiley code offerings, back in version 2.xx. Perhaps a clean install would let you reproduce the problem so many of us are experiencing. What do you think, Alex? BTW, have you seen my BT issue report? I uploaded Martin Schoch's PNG there, and it will show you what we are experiencing: http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6190 From his January 24 post at TBBETA: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, Mary :Trill: The Bat! 3.95.8 (rar) on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Exchange help
Maxim, On 26-01-2007 18:25, you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: As the other TBBETA subscribers have already replied, The Bat! does only provide one-way mode of working with the messages on Exchange server. You can only download the messages from the server, but you cannot upload anything back. Your changes (e.g. move a message, rename a folder, etc.) will remain local and won't affect the Exchange or Outlook message base. Is the other functionality planned? Thanks. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.95.6 Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate, AVG /extras env. 2 POP3, 14 IMAP (Courier) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 200K+ msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 /os Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: bat and router
Hello Alexander, Friday, January 26, 2007, 20:30:22, you wrote: Well, let the user configure its HELO string if its such an old and unreliable beast. How would the user know that a HELO string should be configured? E.g. you didn't know which caused the delay, so the other users may not know that HELO argument may be a root of a problem. The software should be smart enough to save the users from such quircks. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: bat and router
Hello Alexander, Friday, January 26, 2007, 20:32:59, you wrote: Ahm, this seems like a misunderstanding. I meant to turn the FQDN thing on or off. To get what you mean FQDN OFF we should either resolve the full name (which The Bat! does) and strip all the parts except the first word, or call GetComputerName which may not be adequate, may contain Unicode characters, etc. And let the user configure its own (local part of the) HELO identifier while we're at it. ;-) This won't solve the EHLO problem. 1. You have to know that you have to configure this argument 2. You have to know WHAT to type there You can already configure your own part of the HELO by modifying the C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc\hosts file, by adding a line 192.168.104.105 blabla Where 192.168.104.105 is your IP address and blabla is the name that will be transmitted as the EHLO argument. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: bat and router
Hello Alexander, Friday, January 26, 2007, 21:54:02, you wrote: I consider the delay an annoyance, and it is there BECAUSE you are not using a simple HELO machine routine like it used to be. Thank you, we will try to send HELO machine, but we have to figure out how to get the name of the machine in Latin characters when it contains national characters. Will try to see how Outlook behaves in these cases. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Alexander! On Friday, January 26, 2007, 12:47 PM, you wrote: And both are 3.95.08?!? Here they both are 3.95.08, except that they both also report themselves in Help/About as 3.95.8. Yes, I know that the MSI had the same version as the previous standalone .exe - but Stuart wrote that he installed teh *MSI* version twice, and both are different, and that I find hard to believe... Well, I believe him. Because this msi install has given you the Smileys+Christmas Splash Screen and me and a bunch of others the Regular Splash Screen+No Smileys. So, if on one of his machines he did what you did with the original Smiley install back in v. 2.xx, and on the other he did what I did with that original Smiley install when I got v. 2.06 (or something like that I seem to remember--it was so I could see the :42: that Leif made for me). So, it's logical to me that it could happen that way. And besides, Stuart Cuddy is a very logical-minded person, not given to fantasy. :) When I was seeing text versions of the Smileys surrounded with rectangular boxes, the splash screen was the usual one. Now that I reverted to the 3.95.8 rar, the splash screen is the Christmas edition screen, and the Smiley images are called. Thats odd, as I *did* install the MSI (control panel/arp shows TB version 3.95.08), but I still see the xmas splash screen. Yes. Maxim definitely needs to have a look at this, I think. Perhaps a clean install would let you reproduce the problem so many of us are experiencing. What do you think, Alex? I ain't not making no clean install ma'am if it breaks me smilies! ;-) :kiss: :bearhug: BTW, have you seen my BT issue report? I uploaded Martin Schoch's PNG there, and it will show you what we are experiencing: I saw the screenshot before, yes. Okay. So you know what I'm ticked off about. ;) But I reckon the answer is :42: :purpletimemachine: h2g2 -- Best regards, Mary :Trill: The Bat! 3.95.8 (rar) on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
On Friday, January 26, 2007, 12:27:15 PM, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: But thats not what Stuart wrote. :-P He said he installed the MSI on two machines, one showing the xmas splash, the other one not. I have an installation with the minimal splash screen, which overrides the default splash screens. Perhaps he has done something like that and forgotten. My smilys seem healthy everywhere. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.95.8 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backup and Address Books
Hello Mike, Friday, January 26, 2007, 7:13:43 AM, you wrote: MG I regularly use the backup utility of The Bat! to backup my mail files. MG What's annoying is that every time I must re-select which address books I want to back up. MG Why does the utility not give me the option of setting the address book backup defaults? My backups [one of them is the entire TB-directory] are done automatically with Second Copy www.secondcopy.com. Reliable and very easy to set up. But if you do not want to spend some money on it, there are freeware alternatives too: http://www.2brightsparks.com/freeware/freeware-hub.html -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 3.95.8 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys
Hello Alexander, Friday, January 26, 2007, 11:58:57 AM, you wrote: Do you have the Christmas splash screen still. I installed the msi on 2 machines, one changed to the regular splash screen and smileys don't work and the other kept the Christmas theme and smileys work. ASK And *both* are 3.95.08?!? Yes. The xmas edition is on this computer running Windows 2000 and the bad smiley version is on XP. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.95.8 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
NOD32 anti-virus and The Bat!
Here's a heads-up for users of NOD32 anti-virus and The Bat!. NOD32's technical support people confirmed to me that NOD32's on-demand scanner cannot scan inside The Bat's messages.tbb data files and therefore cannot spot infected e-mails. However, NOD32's IMON module scans all POP3 traffic and will likely catch any viruses as they arrive. In addition, its AMON module would likely catch any attempt to save, copy or execute the virus file. Having said that, a situation could arise where I receive an infected e-mail which NOD32's IMON module does not yet recognize (as happened to me last week with the Fuclip.A worm). That infected e-mail would sit undiscovered in my inbox despite several NOD32 on-demand scans. Since NOD32's IMON module does not scan outgoing mail, I could unwittingly forward it to, and infect, an unsuspecting recipient. To their credit, NOD32's technical support people have been very responsive and helpful. I have no intention of switching to another anti-virus application; NOD32 is the best I've come across so far. Check out the NOD32 discussion thread I started at http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=163149 and support a fix for this problem. It would also be great if any Bat programmers monitoring this list would contact NOD32 technical support and lend a hand with a fix so these two great programs work together better. -- Code 2 :canadaflag: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! version 2.12.00 on Windows XP Service Pack 2 On a New York convalescent home: For the sick and tired of the Episcopal Church Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys
Hello Alexander, Friday, January 26, 2007, 12:47:16 PM, you wrote: And both are 3.95.08?!? Here they both are 3.95.08, except that they both also report themselves in Help/About as 3.95.8. Yes, I know that the MSI had the same version as the previous standalone .exe - but Stuart wrote that he installed teh *MSI* version twice, and both are different, and that I find hard to believe... Now that I think about it I believe, but I'm not really sure, that I installed the 3.95.08 exe file first and then the msi on the machine that smilies are not working on and skipped the exe on the machine where they are working. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.95.8 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys
Hello Mary, Friday, January 26, 2007, 2:18:34 PM, you wrote: Stuart Cuddy is a very logical-minded person, not given to fantasy. :) :'( Who's spreading this vicious rumor. :/ -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.95.8 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hallo Stuart, On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 07:57:22 -0600GMT (26-1-2007, 14:57 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MB My conclusion: the complete msi install package has a bug in it. Cannot confirm SC Do you have the Christmas splash screen still. Yes. SC I installed the msi on 2 machines, one changed to the regular SC splash screen and smileys don't work and the other kept the SC Christmas theme and smileys work. Was that the same .msi? -- Groetjes, Roelof IBM: I've Been Misled http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.95.8 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpfGe2yMFOsd.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys
Hello Roelof, Friday, January 26, 2007, 5:14:32 PM, you wrote: SC I installed the msi on 2 machines, one changed to the regular SC splash screen and smileys don't work and the other kept the SC Christmas theme and smileys work. RO Was that the same .msi? As far as I know. It was the link in the same e-mail, unless they change what it linked to. :) -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.95.8 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys (was: bat and router)
Alexander S. Kunz wrote: ASK on Friday, January 26, 2007 at 00:19 you (George Mitchell) wrote: I'm using the txt2html.regexps trick to turn some external image links into links to images on my hard drive. This quit working along with the smileys, so it's not just the .msl mechanism that broke. ASK I'm using the txt2html.regexps to render text styles *bold* etc., ASK and its still working, just like the smilies. I wasn't very clear. I didn't mean to say that txt2html.regexps wasn't working - it's still converting the external links to local ones. It's those local links that no longer work, just like the smileys. It shows the Alt text in a box. -- George Using The Bat! 3.95.2 on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Splash screen (was: Re: Smileys)
On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 at 14:28:45 -0600, Dwight wrote: I have an installation with the minimal splash screen, which overrides the default splash screens. By minimal splash screen do you mean you are using the /NOLOGO command line parameter, or is there something else that can be done with splash screens? Is it, for example, possible to change the Xmas splash screen for another image? -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.95.6 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: NOD32 anti-virus and The Bat!
Code 2 wrote: snip C2 ...a situation could arise where I receive an infected e-mail C2 which NOD32's IMON module does not yet recognize (as happened to C2 me last week with the Fuclip.A worm). That infected e-mail would C2 sit undiscovered in my inbox despite several NOD32 on-demand C2 scans. Since NOD32's IMON module does not scan outgoing mail, I C2 could unwittingly forward it to, and infect, an unsuspecting C2 recipient. I've disabled the POP3 checking in IMON and use the NOD32 Plugin for TB!: http://ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/plugin/plugins.php With the Plugin there's an option to scan outgoing mail. Plus, you can initiate an on-demand scan from within TB!. If it all works as advertised, the Plugin seems like a pretty good way to go. -- George Using The Bat! 3.95.2 on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Shortcuts for expanding and collapsing threads
Batfolk, I want to find, or set, shortcuts for expanding and collapsing threads. In some earlier version of TB! I could expand or collapse all threads, or just the email thread I am currently in. In the current version SHIFT-8 (i.e. *), CTRL-8 and CTRL-SHIFT-8 (i.e. CTRL-*) will all toggle expanding all threads and collapsing them. The effect of each appears to be the same. However when a thread is collapsed it only collapses at the top level, so that if I open the root of a thread (with right arrow) I see the entire tree expanded, not just the next level. The only way I can find to collapse the entire thread completely is to work from each leaf node of the tree and use the left arrow to collapse to the next node - a tedious business! Is there a shortcut in the current version that will collapse the current or all threads so that I can expand it just to the next level? I looked for a menu item to expand or collapse threads, so I could (try to) set a shortcut using the (fiendishly incomprehensible) menu customisation process, but I was unable to find one. Can anyone offer a suggestion? Robin -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.95.6 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: NOD32 anti-virus and The Bat!
C2 ...a situation could arise where I receive an infected e-mail C2 which NOD32's IMON module does not yet recognize (as happened to C2 me last week with the Fuclip.A worm). That infected e-mail would C2 sit undiscovered in my inbox despite several NOD32 on-demand C2 scans. Since NOD32's IMON module does not scan outgoing mail, I C2 could unwittingly forward it to, and infect, an unsuspecting C2 recipient. GM I've disabled the POP3 checking in IMON and use the NOD32 Plugin for GM TB!: GM http://ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/plugin/plugins.php GM With the Plugin there's an option to scan outgoing mail. Plus, you GM can initiate an on-demand scan from within TB!. If it all works as GM advertised, the Plugin seems like a pretty good way to go. You're right, George, we can use the plug-in to scan outgoing mail. I notice that the plug-in is a test version (version 0.1) and appears to have been developed several years ago for NOD32 version 1. The plug-in seems to work with NOD32 version 2.7 except it generates unexplained, periodic bong noises. Is there a newer version. While the plug-in helps fill the gap, we still have the problem with NOD232 being unable to scan our messages.tbb files. -- Code 2 :canadaflag: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! version 2.12.00 on Windows XP Service Pack 2 Budapest zoo: Please do not feed the animals. If you have any suitable food, give it to the guard on duty. Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hallo Mary, On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:40:14 -0600GMT (26-1-2007, 19:40 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MB Perhaps those of you who were able to install msi 3.95.08 and keep MB functioning Smileys can do so because of how you handled the original MB Smiley code offerings, back in version 2.xx. MB Perhaps a clean install would let you reproduce the problem so many of MB us are experiencing. So I uninstalled TB and installed it again from the msi. Still no boxed smileys. -- Groetjes, Roelof I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't looking good either. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.95.8 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpLzrE2WdYGv.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: NOD32 anti-virus and The Bat!
Code 2 wrote: C2 You're right, George, we can use the plug-in to scan outgoing C2 mail. I notice that the plug-in is a test version (version 0.1) C2 and appears to have been developed several years ago for NOD32 C2 version 1. The plug-in seems to work with NOD32 version 2.7 C2 except it generates unexplained, periodic bong noises. Is there C2 a newer version. No idea. I got my version from a link someone posted on one of these lists a while back and it works fine (though I think I had to restart TB! and maybe my system before it worked right). I'm not sure what version it is - from within TB! the plugin displays the latest virus signature db version as the version. The .bav file was created on Jul 02, 2004 and was digitally signed by Ritlabs on that date. FWIW, I appear to have v2.51.26 of NOD32. C2 While the plug-in helps fill the gap, we still have the problem with C2 NOD232 being unable to scan our messages.tbb files. Since the plugin will catch a virus coming, going, or when I try to do anything with it I guess I don't see that as a problem. In fact, it seems like I'd just have to exclude those files from NOD32's view so it didn't freak out in cases where the plugin had it handled. That said, it does worry me a bit that the plugin doesn't seem to be getting updated. I'd probably focus my energies on making sure someone's gonna keep that going rather than adding the ability to scan TB!'s .tbb files. -- George Using The Bat! 3.95.2 on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Splash screen (was: Re: Smileys)
On Friday, January 26, 2007, 5:42:53 PM, Robin Anson wrote: By minimal splash screen do you mean you are using the /NOLOGO command line parameter, no or is there something else that can be done with splash screens? Is it, for example, possible to change the Xmas splash screen for another image? yes. I don't remember how it all works, back in the middle of 2005 there was discussion on some bat list about alternate ions, and I fiddled around with some, and used a set called minimal for a while. I dumped them but never changed the splash, known in my tb folder as 'splash.png' back. I don't recall, but I think that it must be batlogo.xml which loads the splash screen. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.95.8 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html