Re: Exchange help

2007-01-26 Thread Peter Fjelsten

Alexander,

Quoting Alexander Kunz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

The MAPI mode of TB looks like a mixture between IMAP and POP3. It finds
the serverside folder structure, but it downloads the messages into a
local cache as it seems, or whatever.


This was my feeling as well.

I think Ritlabs have quite some nerve to call it Exhange protocol.  
Anyone would think it would behave like Outlook which of course, it  
doesn't at all.



I haven't found the same in
MAPI accounts (and didn't bother to check either I must admit, because
IMAP is so much better).


I agree regardign IMAP, but IMAP - for some ridiculous reason - has  
been disallowed at my work.


Ritlabs, any comments?

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Re: Backup and Address Books

2007-01-26 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Loek,

On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 07:17:08 +0100GMT (26-1-2007, 7:17 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

 I regularly use the backup utility of The Bat! to backup my mail files.
 What's annoying is that every time I must re-select which address books I 
 want to back up.

LVK I *think* the last selection is automatically remembered if you
LVK back-up using the scheduler,

I think the same, but then I deleted all those extra address books in
my setup.

LVK --

Please don't leave out the trailing space of your cutsign. After all
you've a rather substantial signature. A correct signature delimiter
is: dash dash space enter

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Re: Backup and Address Books

2007-01-26 Thread Akebono Translation Service
Dear Roelof,

 Please don't leave out the trailing space of your cutsign. After all
 you've a rather substantial signature. A correct signature delimiter
 is: dash dash space enter

I made a few changes recently and changed the signature into a Quick Template 
(in which it is impossible to spot whether a trailing space is for real or not).

Let's see if this works. 

Best regards,

Loek van Kooten

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Re: Backup and Address Books

2007-01-26 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Loek,

On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:27:10 +0100GMT (26-1-2007, 12:27 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

LVK Let's see if this works. 

Yes

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Database engine

2007-01-26 Thread Akebono Translation Service
Dear all,

I suspect The Bat is interfering with another program I'm using... Does anyone 
know whether The Bat uses Microsoft's Jet Engine? 

Best regards,

Loek van Kooten

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Re[2]: Smileys

2007-01-26 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Roelof,
Thursday, January 25, 2007, 7:39:54 PM, you wrote:

Snip

 They do for me too.

MB My conclusion: the complete msi install package has a bug in it.

 Cannot confirm

Do you have the Christmas splash screen still. I installed the msi on 2
machines,  one  changed to the regular splash screen and smileys don't
work and the other kept the Christmas theme and smileys work.

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Re: Database engine

2007-01-26 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Akebono,

Friday, January 26, 2007, 15:01:30, you wrote:

Does anyone know whether The Bat uses Microsoft's Jet Engine?
No, it doesn't.

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Re[2]: Backup and Address Books

2007-01-26 Thread Mike Greenbaum
 I regularly use the backup utility of The Bat! to backup my mail files.
 What's annoying is that every time I must re-select which address books I 
 want to back up.

LVK I *think* the last selection is automatically remembered if you
LVK back-up using the scheduler,

 I think the same, but then I deleted all those extra address books in
 my setup.

I had deleted the Intermediate and Trusted Root Folders from my Address Book, 
but they still showed up in the backup utility list. So I went to C:\Program 
Files\TheBat!|Mail and found they were still there. So I deleted them from that 
folder.

I closed TB, reopened it, and checked the backup utility. The Intermediate and 
Trusted Root items were still there. I went back to Program Files\TheBat!\Mail 
only to find the folders I'd deleted had been apparently recreated when I 
reopened TB.

Wonder why this is. Seems unfriendly of TB to continue to force me to deal with 
something I don't want.

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Re[2]: bat and router

2007-01-26 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Alexander,

Thursday, January 25, 2007, 0:28:20, you wrote:

That doesn't explain why there's no delay when using Outlook Express (if
the same mailserver is used, that is).

Outlook doesn't send the fully-qualified symbolic host name (FQDN) to the 
server, which is also problematic. It may not work where the other mail clients 
work. Here are some references:

1. 
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/microsoft.public.outlook.installation/browse_frm/thread/476cf8701fc0b0ea/7a9d7ec7ecec78c0?lnk=stq=outlook+smtp+ehlo
2. 
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/mailing.postfix.users/browse_frm/thread/d7d249e4997f3a49/93e7003d0423c06d?lnk=stq=outlook+smtp+ehlo+FQDNrnum=9hl=en
3. 
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/microsoft.public.outlook.general/browse_frm/thread/32ae229743106d65/236f0a3de3c141b3?lnk=stq=outlook+smtp+ehlo+FQDNrnum=8hl=en
4. 
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/microsoft.public.outlook/browse_frm/thread/e904fb01d454a8f3/f4f15fc2c05413cd?lnk=stq=outlook+smtp+ehlo+FQDNrnum=6hl=en
5. 
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/microsoft.public.outlook.installation/browse_frm/thread/476cf8701fc0b0ea/7a9d7ec7ecec78c0?lnk=stq=outlook+smtp+ehlo+FQDNrnum=1hl=en

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Re: Exchange help

2007-01-26 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Peter,

Thursday, January 25, 2007, 10:09:42, you wrote:

If I manipulate mail (move, delete, etc) in Outlook 2003, the  
manipulations carry over to TB. But if I manipulate in TB, the  
manipulations do not carry over to Outlook. Why?
As the other TBBETA subscribers have already replied, The Bat! does only 
provide one-way mode of working with the messages on Exchange server. You can 
only download the messages from the server, but you cannot upload anything 
back. Your changes (e.g. move a message, rename a folder, etc.) will remain 
local and won't affect the Exchange or Outlook message base.

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2007-01-26 Thread Mark Partous

Hello Marck,

Time to automate?...  Which quite isn't the same as auto mate :-)

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Re: Smileys

2007-01-26 Thread Peter Meyns
Alexander S. Kunz schrieb:

 Do you have the Christmas splash screen still. I installed the msi on
 2 machines, one changed to the regular splash screen and smileys don't
 work and the other kept the Christmas theme and smileys work.
 
 And *both* are 3.95.08?!?

Yes they are indeed. One from the MSI with the normal splash screen and
smileys disabled, and one from the last beta RAR with the Christmas
screen and smileys working. As a matter of fact, both show 3.95.8 as the
version number, lacking the zero...

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Re[2]: bat and router

2007-01-26 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Alexander,

Friday, January 26, 2007, 20:02:32, you wrote:

And can we *please* have a configuration switch to turn that... thing...
in TB *ON* or *OFF* as the user prefers it? ;-)
What should The Bat! send as the argument when it is OFF? The name of the 
computer, returned by GetComputerName()? What if it contains national 
characters, which usually happens in Russian windows?

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Re: Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information:

2007-01-26 Thread Mark Partous

Hello,

Citing myself once more:

MP Hello Marck,

MP Time to automate?...  Which quite isn't the same as auto mate :-)

You stupid man! Can't you see the difference between TBUDL  TBBETA?

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Re: Smileys

2007-01-26 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Alexander!

On Friday, January 26, 2007, 11:58 AM, you wrote to Stuart Cuddy:

 Do you have the Christmas splash screen still. I installed the msi on
 2 machines, one changed to the regular splash screen and smileys don't
 work and the other kept the Christmas theme and smileys work.

 And both are 3.95.08?!?

Here they both are 3.95.08, except that they both also report
themselves in Help/About as 3.95.8.

When I was seeing text versions of the Smileys surrounded with
rectangular boxes, the splash screen was the usual one.

Now that I reverted to the 3.95.8 rar, the splash screen is the
Christmas edition screen, and the Smiley images are called.

There is obviously something in the code of msi 3.95.08 that causes so
many of us to have non-functioning Smileys.

Perhaps those of you who were able to install msi 3.95.08 and keep
functioning Smileys can do so because of how you handled the original
Smiley code offerings, back in version 2.xx.

Perhaps a clean install would let you reproduce the problem so many of
us are experiencing.

What do you think, Alex?

BTW, have you seen my BT issue report? I uploaded Martin Schoch's PNG
there, and it will show you what we are experiencing:

http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6190

From his January 24 post at TBBETA:
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Exchange help

2007-01-26 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Maxim,

On 26-01-2007 18:25, you wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 As the other TBBETA subscribers have already replied, The Bat! does
 only provide one-way mode of working with the messages on Exchange
 server. You can only download the messages from the server, but you
 cannot upload anything back. Your changes (e.g. move a message, rename
 a folder, etc.) will remain local and won't affect the Exchange or
 Outlook message base.

Is the other functionality planned?

Thanks.

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Re[2]: bat and router

2007-01-26 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Alexander,

Friday, January 26, 2007, 20:30:22, you wrote:

Well, let the user configure its HELO string if its such an old and
unreliable beast.
How would the user know that a HELO string should be configured? E.g. you 
didn't know which caused the delay, so the other users may not know that HELO 
argument may be a root of a problem. The software should be smart enough to 
save the users from such quircks.

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Re[2]: bat and router

2007-01-26 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Alexander,

Friday, January 26, 2007, 20:32:59, you wrote:

Ahm, this seems like a misunderstanding. I meant to turn the FQDN thing
on or off. 
To get what you mean FQDN OFF we should either resolve the full name (which 
The Bat! does) and strip all the parts except the first word, or call 
GetComputerName which may not be adequate, may contain Unicode characters, etc.

And let the user configure its own (local part of the) HELO
identifier while we're at it. ;-)

This won't solve the EHLO problem. 

1. You have to know that you have to configure this argument
2. You have to know WHAT to type there

You can already configure your own part of the HELO by modifying the 
C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc\hosts file, by adding a line

192.168.104.105 blabla

Where 192.168.104.105 is your IP address and blabla is the name that will be 
transmitted as the EHLO argument.



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Re[2]: bat and router

2007-01-26 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Alexander,

Friday, January 26, 2007, 21:54:02, you wrote:

I consider the delay an annoyance, and it is there BECAUSE you are not
using a simple HELO machine routine like it used to be.
Thank you, we will try to send HELO machine, but we have to figure out how to 
get the name of the machine in Latin characters when it contains national 
characters. Will try to see how Outlook behaves in these cases.

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Re: Smileys

2007-01-26 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Alexander!

On Friday, January 26, 2007, 12:47 PM, you wrote:

 And both are 3.95.08?!?

 Here they both are 3.95.08, except that they both also report
 themselves in Help/About as 3.95.8.

 Yes, I know that the MSI had the same version as the previous standalone
 .exe - but Stuart wrote that he installed teh *MSI* version twice, and
 both are different, and that I find hard to believe...

Well, I believe him.

Because this msi install has given you the Smileys+Christmas Splash
Screen and me and a bunch of others the Regular Splash Screen+No
Smileys.

So, if on one of his machines he did what you did with the original
Smiley install back in v. 2.xx, and on the other he did what I did
with that original Smiley install when I got v. 2.06 (or something
like that I seem to remember--it was so I could see the :42: that Leif
made for me).

So, it's logical to me that it could happen that way. And besides,
Stuart Cuddy is a very logical-minded person, not given to fantasy. :)

 When I was seeing text versions of the Smileys surrounded with
 rectangular boxes, the splash screen was the usual one.

 Now that I reverted to the 3.95.8 rar, the splash screen is the
 Christmas edition screen, and the Smiley images are called.

 Thats odd, as I *did* install the MSI (control panel/arp shows TB
 version 3.95.08), but I still see the xmas splash screen.

Yes. Maxim definitely needs to have a look at this, I think.

 Perhaps a clean install would let you reproduce the problem so many
 of us are experiencing.

 What do you think, Alex?

 I ain't not making no clean install ma'am if it breaks me smilies! ;-)

:kiss: :bearhug:

 BTW, have you seen my BT issue report? I uploaded Martin Schoch's
 PNG there, and it will show you what we are experiencing:

 I saw the screenshot before, yes.

Okay. So you know what I'm ticked off about. ;)

But I reckon the answer is :42:

:purpletimemachine: h2g2

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Re: Smileys

2007-01-26 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Friday, January 26, 2007, 12:27:15 PM, Alexander S. Kunz wrote:

 But thats not what Stuart wrote. :-P He said he installed the MSI on
 two machines, one showing the xmas splash, the other one not.

I have an installation with the minimal splash screen, which overrides
the default splash screens. Perhaps he has done something like that
and forgotten. My smilys seem healthy everywhere.


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Re: Backup and Address Books

2007-01-26 Thread Mark Partous

Hello Mike,

Friday, January 26, 2007, 7:13:43 AM, you wrote:

MG I regularly use the backup utility of The Bat! to backup my mail files.

MG What's annoying is that every time I must re-select which address books I 
want to back up.

MG Why does the utility not give me the option of setting the address book 
backup defaults?

My backups [one of them is the entire TB-directory] are done automatically
with Second Copy www.secondcopy.com.  Reliable and very easy to set up.

But if you do not want to spend some money on it, there are freeware 
alternatives too:
http://www.2brightsparks.com/freeware/freeware-hub.html

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Re[2]: Smileys

2007-01-26 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Alexander,
Friday, January 26, 2007, 11:58:57 AM, you wrote:

 Do you have the Christmas splash screen still. I installed the msi on
 2 machines, one changed to the regular splash screen and smileys don't
 work and the other kept the Christmas theme and smileys work.

ASK And *both* are 3.95.08?!?

Yes. The xmas edition is on this computer running Windows 2000 and the
bad smiley version is on XP.
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NOD32 anti-virus and The Bat!

2007-01-26 Thread Code 2
Here's a heads-up for users of NOD32 anti-virus and The Bat!. NOD32's
technical support people confirmed to me that NOD32's on-demand
scanner cannot scan inside The Bat's messages.tbb data files and
therefore cannot spot infected e-mails.  However, NOD32's IMON module
scans all POP3 traffic and will likely catch any viruses as they
arrive.  In addition, its AMON module would likely catch any attempt
to save, copy or execute the virus file.

Having said that, a situation could arise where I receive an infected
e-mail which NOD32's IMON module does not yet recognize (as happened
to me last week with the Fuclip.A worm).  That infected e-mail would
sit undiscovered in my inbox despite several NOD32 on-demand scans.
Since NOD32's IMON module does not scan outgoing mail, I could
unwittingly forward it to, and infect, an unsuspecting recipient.

To their credit, NOD32's technical support people have been very
responsive and helpful.  I have no intention of switching to another
anti-virus application; NOD32 is the best I've come across so far.

Check out the NOD32 discussion thread I started at
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=163149 and support a
fix for this problem.

It would also be great if any Bat programmers monitoring this list
would contact NOD32 technical support and lend a hand with a fix so
these two great programs work together better.

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Re[2]: Smileys

2007-01-26 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Alexander,
Friday, January 26, 2007, 12:47:16 PM, you wrote:

 And both are 3.95.08?!?

 Here they both are 3.95.08, except that they both also report
 themselves in Help/About as 3.95.8.

 Yes, I know that the MSI had the same version as the previous standalone
 .exe - but Stuart wrote that he installed teh *MSI* version twice, and
 both are different, and that I find hard to believe...

Now that I think about it I believe, but I'm not really sure, that I
installed the 3.95.08 exe file first and then the msi on the machine
that smilies are not working on and skipped the exe on the machine
where they are working.

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Re[2]: Smileys

2007-01-26 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Mary,
Friday, January 26, 2007, 2:18:34 PM, you wrote:

 Stuart Cuddy is a very logical-minded person, not given to fantasy. :)

:'( Who's spreading this vicious rumor. :/

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Re: Smileys

2007-01-26 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Stuart,

On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 07:57:22 -0600GMT (26-1-2007, 14:57 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

MB My conclusion: the complete msi install package has a bug in it.
 Cannot confirm

SC Do you have the Christmas splash screen still.

Yes.

SC I installed the msi on 2 machines, one changed to the regular
SC splash screen and smileys don't work and the other kept the
SC Christmas theme and smileys work.

Was that the same .msi?

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Re[2]: Smileys

2007-01-26 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Roelof,
Friday, January 26, 2007, 5:14:32 PM, you wrote:

SC I installed the msi on 2 machines, one changed to the regular
SC splash screen and smileys don't work and the other kept the
SC Christmas theme and smileys work.

RO Was that the same .msi?

As  far  as  I  know.  It  was the link in the same e-mail, unless they
change what it linked to. :)

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Re: Smileys (was: bat and router)

2007-01-26 Thread George Mitchell
Alexander S. Kunz wrote:

ASK on Friday, January 26, 2007 at 00:19 you (George Mitchell) wrote:

 I'm using the txt2html.regexps trick to turn some external image
 links into links to images on my hard drive. This quit working
 along with the smileys, so it's not just the .msl mechanism that
 broke.

ASK I'm using the txt2html.regexps to render text styles *bold* etc.,
ASK and its still working, just like the smilies.

I wasn't very clear.  I didn't mean to say that txt2html.regexps
wasn't working - it's still converting the external links to local
ones.  It's those local links that no longer work, just like the
smileys.  It shows the Alt text in a box.

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Splash screen (was: Re: Smileys)

2007-01-26 Thread Robin Anson
On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 at 14:28:45 -0600, Dwight wrote:
 I have an installation with the minimal splash screen, which overrides
 the default splash screens.

By minimal splash screen do you mean you are using the /NOLOGO
command line parameter, or is there something else that can be done
with splash screens?

Is it, for example, possible to change the Xmas splash screen for
another image?

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Re: NOD32 anti-virus and The Bat!

2007-01-26 Thread George Mitchell
Code 2 wrote:

snip

C2 ...a situation could arise where I receive an infected e-mail
C2 which NOD32's IMON module does not yet recognize (as happened to
C2 me last week with the Fuclip.A worm).  That infected e-mail would
C2 sit undiscovered in my inbox despite several NOD32 on-demand
C2 scans. Since NOD32's IMON module does not scan outgoing mail, I
C2 could unwittingly forward it to, and infect, an unsuspecting
C2 recipient.

I've disabled the POP3 checking in IMON and use the NOD32 Plugin for
TB!:

http://ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/plugin/plugins.php

With the Plugin there's an option to scan outgoing mail.  Plus, you
can initiate an on-demand scan from within TB!.  If it all works as
advertised, the Plugin seems like a pretty good way to go.

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Shortcuts for expanding and collapsing threads

2007-01-26 Thread Robin Anson
Batfolk, 

I want to find, or set, shortcuts for expanding and collapsing
threads. In some earlier version of TB! I could expand or collapse all
threads, or just the email thread I am currently in. In the current
version SHIFT-8 (i.e. *), CTRL-8 and CTRL-SHIFT-8 (i.e. CTRL-*) will
all toggle expanding all threads and collapsing them. The effect of
each appears to be the same.

However when a thread is collapsed it only collapses at the top level,
so that if I open the root of a thread (with right arrow) I see the
entire tree expanded, not just the next level. The only way I can find
to collapse the entire thread completely is to work from each leaf
node of the tree and use the left arrow to collapse to the next node -
a tedious business!

Is there a shortcut in the current version that will collapse the
current or all threads so that I can expand it just to the next level?

I looked for a menu item to expand or collapse threads, so I could
(try to) set a shortcut using the (fiendishly incomprehensible) menu
customisation process, but I was unable to find one.

Can anyone offer a suggestion?

Robin
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Re[2]: NOD32 anti-virus and The Bat!

2007-01-26 Thread Code 2
C2 ...a situation could arise where I receive an infected e-mail
C2 which NOD32's IMON module does not yet recognize (as happened to
C2 me last week with the Fuclip.A worm).  That infected e-mail would
C2 sit undiscovered in my inbox despite several NOD32 on-demand
C2 scans. Since NOD32's IMON module does not scan outgoing mail, I
C2 could unwittingly forward it to, and infect, an unsuspecting
C2 recipient.


GM I've disabled the POP3 checking in IMON and use the NOD32 Plugin for
GM TB!:

GM http://ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/plugin/plugins.php

GM With the Plugin there's an option to scan outgoing mail.  Plus, you
GM can initiate an on-demand scan from within TB!.  If it all works as
GM advertised, the Plugin seems like a pretty good way to go.


You're right, George, we can use the plug-in to scan outgoing mail. I
notice that the plug-in is a test version (version 0.1) and appears to
have been developed several years ago for NOD32 version 1.  The
plug-in seems to work with NOD32 version 2.7 except it generates
unexplained, periodic bong noises.  Is there a newer version.

While the plug-in helps fill the gap, we still have the problem with
NOD232 being unable to scan our messages.tbb files.


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Re: Smileys

2007-01-26 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Mary,

On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:40:14 -0600GMT (26-1-2007, 19:40 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

MB Perhaps those of you who were able to install msi 3.95.08 and keep
MB functioning Smileys can do so because of how you handled the original
MB Smiley code offerings, back in version 2.xx.

MB Perhaps a clean install would let you reproduce the problem so many of
MB us are experiencing.

So I uninstalled TB and installed it again from the msi. Still no
boxed smileys.

-- 
Groetjes, Roelof

I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't 
looking good either.
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Re: NOD32 anti-virus and The Bat!

2007-01-26 Thread George Mitchell
Code 2 wrote:

C2 You're right, George, we can use the plug-in to scan outgoing
C2 mail. I notice that the plug-in is a test version (version 0.1)
C2 and appears to have been developed several years ago for NOD32
C2 version 1.  The plug-in seems to work with NOD32 version 2.7
C2 except it generates unexplained, periodic bong noises.  Is there
C2 a newer version.

No idea.  I got my version from a link someone posted on one of these
lists a while back and it works fine (though I think I had to restart
TB! and maybe my system before it worked right).  I'm not sure what
version it is - from within TB! the plugin displays the latest virus
signature db version as the version.  The .bav file was created on Jul
02, 2004 and was digitally signed by Ritlabs on that date.  FWIW, I
appear to have v2.51.26 of NOD32.

C2 While the plug-in helps fill the gap, we still have the problem with
C2 NOD232 being unable to scan our messages.tbb files.

Since the plugin will catch a virus coming, going, or when I try to do
anything with it I guess I don't see that as a problem.  In fact, it
seems like I'd just have to exclude those files from NOD32's view so
it didn't freak out in cases where the plugin had it handled.

That said, it does worry me a bit that the plugin doesn't seem to be
getting updated.  I'd probably focus my energies on making sure
someone's gonna keep that going rather than adding the ability to scan
TB!'s .tbb files.

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Re: Splash screen (was: Re: Smileys)

2007-01-26 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Friday, January 26, 2007, 5:42:53 PM, Robin Anson wrote:

 By minimal splash screen do you mean you are using the /NOLOGO
 command line parameter,

no

 or is there something else that can be done with splash screens?

 Is it, for example, possible to change the Xmas splash screen for
 another image?

yes. I don't remember how it all works, back in the middle of 2005
there was discussion on some bat list about alternate ions, and I
fiddled around with some, and used a set called minimal for a while. I
dumped them but never changed the splash, known in my tb folder as
'splash.png' back. I don't recall, but I think that it must be
batlogo.xml which loads the splash screen.


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Wichita KS 67211
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