TB! focus not recognised by Windows taskbar

2009-01-27 Thread Nick Dutton
Hello,

If I try to move focus to TheBat from another application by any means
other than clicking on the taskbar icon, TheBat becomes the active
application (taking keyboard input etc) but this is not reflected in
the taskbar icon status.  The previous application's icon remains
inverted.

For example, if I am browsing with Firefox, alt-tab to TheBat then
click back on Firefox, Windows will minimise Firefox.  This is the
correct windows behaviour if you click on the icon for the currently
selected application.  Except that in this case it's not actually the
focussed application!

All other application combinations appear to work correctly.

This has been happening for at least the last couple of TheBat
releases.

I can't see any other mention of this on the web, can anyone confirm
that they can/can't see this behaviour before I a) bug it or b) sigh
as my PC gets elevated to a higher cruft level.

Thanks,

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Re: TB! focus not recognised by Windows taskbar

2009-01-27 Thread Bob Riley
Hi Nick,

Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 9:39:12 AM, you wrote:

 Hello,

 If I try to move focus to TheBat from another application by any means
 other than clicking on the taskbar icon, TheBat becomes the active
 application (taking keyboard input etc) but this is not reflected in
 the taskbar icon status.  The previous application's icon remains
 inverted.

 For example, if I am browsing with Firefox, alt-tab to TheBat then
 click back on Firefox, Windows will minimise Firefox.  This is the
 correct windows behaviour if you click on the icon for the currently
 selected application.  Except that in this case it's not actually the
 focussed application!

This does happen, but ONLY after using alt-tab to go to TB.  However, 
that cycle seems to end if, once FF is chosen again, then FF maximizes 
as it should.  It is a rather odd behavior that I have noticed, as you 
have, but it's not been a big nuisance.

 All other application combinations appear to work correctly.

 This has been happening for at least the last couple of TheBat
 releases.

 I can't see any other mention of this on the web, can anyone confirm
 that they can/can't see this behaviour before I a) bug it or b) sigh
 as my PC gets elevated to a higher cruft level.

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Re: TB! focus not recognised by Windows taskbar

2009-01-27 Thread Jens Franik

Dienstag, 27. Januar 2009 at 17:39, Nick Dutton wrote:

 I can't see any other mention of this on the web, can anyone confirm
 that they can/can't see this behaviour before

Hm,  i  noticed something like that, but i am not able to reproduce it
now. I am working a lot with the Keyboard and less with the mouse.

I  recognized  already,  that  if i click back with the mouse from the
Bat, sometimes windows went minimized.

I will try to reproduce it and i will give another feedback then.

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Disabling spam filter

2009-01-27 Thread Lynn


Hi -

Since I upgraded the last time, this spam device has driven me bonkers.
I have just scanned over 800 messages here, and haven't found a fix, and
can only hope I haven't missed it. Thanks be that Batters are so good
about subject lines!

If the thing can't be disabled altogether, is it at least possible to
tell it to block or permit domain names? This business of
allowing/blocking each individual gif or jpg is totally insane! They
change with every mailing on much of this stuff, and filtering on those
defeats the purpose entirely!

TIA, and sorry for the desperation, but it takes me longer to mess
with that than to delete the spam!

 Lynn


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Re: Disabling spam filter

2009-01-27 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Lynn,

On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:03:21 -0800GMT (27-1-2009, 22:03 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

L If the thing can't be disabled altogether, is it at least possible to
L tell it to block or permit domain names? This business of
L allowing/blocking each individual gif or jpg is totally insane! They
L change with every mailing on much of this stuff, and filtering on those
L defeats the purpose entirely!

You're  talking  about  the  Download  URL  manager, that isn't a spam
filter, but gives you the possibility to configure from what sites you
want to see the pictures and from what sites not.
Don't  select the individual messages, but their root when choosing to
allow or block.

AFAIK You can't disable the feature.

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Re[2]: Disabling spam filter

2009-01-27 Thread Lynn

1/27/2009

RO You're  talking  about  the  Download  URL  manager, that isn't a spam
RO filter, but gives you the possibility to configure from what sites you
RO want to see the pictures and from what sites not.
RO Don't  select the individual messages, but their root when choosing to
RO allow or block.

Many have several roots, as many as 5 on the worst. And it is evident
that they change the content from mailing to mailing, so that one
determination is not enough. EBay notices frequently have several; since
various items/vendors are involved, how could they be the same? Should I
have to allow every vendor notification they send out??? I've been
fighting the thing ever since I installed that version. I can't believe
I'm the only user with this issue!

RO AFAIK You can't disable the feature.

No offense, but I really, really, hope you are wrong. But .. thanks
anyway.

Lynn


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Re: Disabling spam filter

2009-01-27 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 3:56:27 PM, Lynn wrote:

 Many have several roots, as many as 5 on the worst. And it is evident
 that they change the content from mailing to mailing, so that one
 determination is not enough. EBay notices frequently have several; since
 various items/vendors are involved, how could they be the same? Should I
 have to allow every vendor notification they send out??? I've been
 fighting the thing ever since I installed that version. I can't believe
 I'm the only user with this issue!

you can always just allow everything

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Re[2]: Disabling spam filter

2009-01-27 Thread Lynn

1/27/2009

DC you can always just allow everything

I am thinking that will have to be it, and I'm sure I won't have to wait
long before I see it again. I haven't even been able to find a
way to bring the wretched thing up independently! I didn't think I was
any stupider than usual, but I've really had it up to here with the
thing.

Thanks, though -

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Re: Disabling spam filter

2009-01-27 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Lynn,
Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 3:03:21 PM, you wrote:

L If the thing can't be disabled altogether, is it at least possible to
L tell it to block or permit domain names? This business of
L allowing/blocking each individual gif or jpg is totally insane! They
L change with every mailing on much of this stuff, and filtering on those
L defeats the purpose entirely!

If you are referring to the URL manager then you can disable it entirely or call
it up as needed.

To  open  it  click  on  the  earth  icon  on the header bar and select Show URL
Manager.  There  you can de-select the show this window automatically check box.
This will cause TB to ignore HTML pictures and act like TB used to.

You can also open this same window when you receive an email you want to see the
pictures  in  and allow them for that email. This usually lets all pictures from
that emailer through from that point on.

I hope this is what you meant, if not please ignore me altogether. ;)
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Re[2]: Disabling spam filter

2009-01-27 Thread Lynn

1/27/2009

SC If you are referring to the URL manager then you can disable it entirely or 
call
SC it up as needed.

I was, yes.

SC To  open  it  click  on  the  earth  icon  on the header bar and select 
Show URL
SC Manager.  There  you can de-select the show this window automatically check 
box.
SC This will cause TB to ignore HTML pictures and act like TB used to.

I discovered this accidentally a few minutes after I answered the last
mail. At least I found the checkbox; I'm not seeing an earth icon.
Perhaps I have an alternate skin or toolbox option?

SC You can also open this same window when you receive an email you want to 
see the
SC pictures  in  and allow them for that email. This usually lets all pictures 
from
SC that emailer through from that point on.

If I can find it again now that I've got it turned off, I'll explore it
further, but maybe I'll just leave it turned off :-)

SC I hope this is what you meant, if not please ignore me altogether. ;)

No, no, thanks very much! I was feeling really stupid, which of course
adds to the aggravation! I'm much more mellow now that the thing is
turned off! lol!

And as a nice little bonus, while I was scanning those hundreds of
messages trying to find a reference to the thing, I discovered I could
pipe my gmail messages to TB. I went and did it - easiest config I've
ever done, barring TB's basic configs - and that's working too.

This is unquestionably the best support group on the net! Thanks to all
who've replied!

Lynn

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Re[3]: Disabling spam filter

2009-01-27 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Lynn,
Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 6:05:21 PM, you wrote:

L I discovered this accidentally a few minutes after I answered the last
L mail. At least I found the checkbox; I'm not seeing an earth icon.
L Perhaps I have an alternate skin or toolbox option?

It only appears when you are viewing an HTML mail that has external links.

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Re: Disabling spam filter

2009-01-27 Thread Jens Franik

Mittwoch, 28. Januar 2009 at 01:05, Lynn wrote:

 I'm not seeing an earth icon.
 Perhaps I have an alternate skin or toolbox option?

More likely, that you have to view a HTML Mail to make it appear.
The  other  way  is  to  customize  the  Toolbar  and  set up the Icon
yourself.

It is in All_Actions/Message_Viewer/Show_URL_Manager

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Re: TB! focus not recognised by Windows taskbar

2009-01-27 Thread Alexander E. Gutman
Hello, friends.

Nick Dutton (ND) 27.01.2009 (22:39):

ND If I try to move focus to TheBat from another application
ND by any means other than clicking on the taskbar icon,
ND TheBat becomes the active application
ND (taking keyboard input etc)
ND but this is not reflected in the taskbar icon status.

Confirmed.

Steps To Reproduce:

  1. Open the main The Bat! window.
  2. Open any separate window
 (for instance, Sorting Office, Address Book, etc.)
  3. Close the separate window.
  4. Result: the main The Bat! window is active
 but its taskbar icon is inverted
 (its style is 3D-outset rather than 3D-inset).

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