Re: invalid domain name
Hello Peter, TBUDL Peter Palmreuther wrote: The given error message looks like a classical server side error message and error code and the text itself state it as well: Server reports error: The response is: 5.0.0 Invalid domain name Yes, TB is contacting the server, and from the start I was convinced that it was a server or settings problem. I even contacted the people at that server, but they had no ideas. Then it became clear that the problem was limited to TB, and it was then I turned to this eminent list and got help. So the best best is to make it fail safe and use only allowed parts of a computers name on The Bat!'s side. I would say this is a very good idea, since this type of trouble is virtually unsolvable for any normal human. :-) -- Regards, Östen Häggmark mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TB! 1.61 S/N A7AB7B03, Windows 98 4.10 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: invalid domain name
Hello Peter, Peter Palmreuther wrote: ÖH I even contacted the people at that server, but they ÖH had no ideas. That's sad ... I'd reconsider my relationship to them, it seems they have no idea what their server does :-((( Actually I think they do - but as you may well know, the people who knows what their servers does are often not at the helpdesk... :-) -- Regards, Östen Häggmark mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TB! 1.61 S/N A7AB7B03, Windows 98 4.10 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: invalid domain name
Hello Peter, The only thing that's left and comes to my mind is you trying to change the name of your computer in network identification settings. Make sure it contains only ASCII-127 characters This actually worked! Many, many thanks! The name of the computer contained the character ö which is not so strange considering my name. Removing it seemed to solve the problem. Or whatever the reasons, everything now works OK. -- Regards, Östen Häggmark mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TB! 1.61 S/N A7AB7B03, Windows 98 4.10 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: invalid domain name
Hello Peter, The server you've just hit seems to care about the HELO/EHLO name and it therefore refused your messages containing an invalid DNS-name. I won't pretend to have a clue about what you are saying... :-) The funny thing is that only TB was affected, and suddenly. Maybe the whole thing just came and went... stranger things have happened. Thanks anyway! -- Regards, Östen Häggmark mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TB! 1.61 S/N A7AB7B03, Windows 98 4.10 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: invalid domain name
Hello TBUDL, Outlook, Outlook Express and now Becky works OK with all my accounts, but not TB, as described in earlier messages. I've been using TB for years... Have absolutely no wish to change. :-( I'm out of things to try. For now I'll just have to use Becky for posting with my domain accounts. -- Regards, Östen Häggmark mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TB! 1.61 S/N A7AB7B03, Windows 98 4.10 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
invalid domain name
Hello TBUDL, I have a couple of mail accounts, one of them under the webdomain of an organization whose website I'm running. This domain is hosted by a web hotel. I am using their mailserver for organization mail, to be able to use relevant reply-to-adresses etc. Suddenly it's impossible to post from this account, using the Bat. I get the error message: Server reports error: The response is: 5.0.0 Invalid domain name This has never been a problem before. My Internet provider (cable) has of course their own mailserver which I use for my private email. The strange thing is that posting from MS Outlook works perfectly well for both servers. I have tried the archives but didn't find anything relevant. I'm thankful for any ideas or insights. Using ver 1.61. -- Regards, Östen Häggmark mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TB! 1.61 S/N A7AB7B03, Windows 98 4.10 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: invalid domain name
Hello Roelof, Thanks for your reply. ÖH The strange thing is that posting from MS Outlook works ÖH perfectly well for both servers. Compare your Outlook setting with those in TB They are the same, I even started up new accounts in both Outlook (which I never used before) and TB with fresh settings. Outlook works but not TB. -- Regards, Östen Häggmark mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TB! 1.61 S/N A7AB7B03, Windows 98 4.10 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help! where have all my menus gone?
Hello, Lija: L This function switches lite/full menus... You don't have to do L this, 'cause keyb. equivalent is Alt+Ctrl+Shift+/ Brian Clark: BC Yes I know. The reason I posted this is because Krister was having a BC problem finding the equivalent for that combo in a Swedish keyboard BC layout. Krister, did you solve that? I'm curious to know before I do the upgrade. Is this a new feature in 1.49? I'm running 1.48f and I can't get "lite menus" with any suggested key combination I try. -- Regards, sten Hggmark mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TB! 1.48f S/N A7AB7B03, Windows 98 4.10 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Anomaly?
Hello Thomas, TF While I get this box also only sometimes (there must be some TF logic somehwere...), I confirm it always says "2 Message TF Selelcted" even if I have selcted only one. To me it seems like the message only appears when something else than "Display all messages" is checked under View-Display. In other words when "Only unread" etc is checked, the message appears. -- Regards, Östen Häggmark mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TB! 1.47 Halloween Edition S/N A7AB7B03, Windows 98 4.10 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Anomaly?
Hello Gerd, 28 nov 2000 19:55:44 +0100, Gerd Ewald wrote: GE Hurray, that's it. But all what TB shows is correct here. Probably a GE problem meanwhile fixed in Betas? If you have one unread and two read messages selected (a total of three), then when you check "Only unread" the message shows "1 selected", but if you choose "Only read" it shows "2 selected". Is that so with you too? -- Regards, Östen Häggmark mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TB! 1.47 Halloween Edition S/N A7AB7B03, Windows 98 4.10 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Drafting (was:Re: The Bat! - suggestions)
Hello Thomas, 21 nov 2000 18:46:18 +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF I agree with you. As I "think" I might want to send it to my TF boss/customer/whatever later, I still do not want to put their email TF address in, as I might send the draft accidentally. So I have to put TF one of my own addresses into the TO field just to satisfy the TF nanny-function. :-( As long as I put anything in the field, the Bat-nanny seems to be happy, so I usually enter something descriptive, like "letter to X" or just "draft". A warning _against_ putting an address in the To-field on a draft would be more appropriate, I think. :-) -- Regards, Östen Häggmark mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TB! 1.47 Halloween Edition S/N A7AB7B03, Windows 98 4.10 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Filtering query
Hello Marck and list, 14 nov 2000 13:28:24 +, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: MDP When I want to create a new filter, I start with MDP Ctrl-Shift-F to create a base filter and use the "Override" MDP checkbox and "Edit" button to tweak the new filter into the MDP right place in the hierarchy. It's a bit annoying that if I forget to set the "Move to folder:" before pressing the "Edit" button, a new folder with the pre-filled name is automatically created in the account root, regardless of what settings I later make in "Edit" mode. I don't know if this is already discussed a zillion times before but it was really confusing me at the beginning. Is it a feature? :-) -- Regards, Östen Häggmark mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TB! 1.47 Halloween Edition S/N A7AB7B03, Windows 98 4.10 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Filtering query
Hello Thomas, 16 nov 2000 11:20:56 +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF Yes; TB will automatically create a new folder if the one you choose TF does not exist yet. TF A query would be nice: "Folder xxx does not exist. Create? Y/N". Yes that's it. Or it could be just delayed until I press the "OK" button in "Create mail filter" or "Close" in "Sorting office". That would save some manual deleting of unwanted folders. -- Regards, Östen Häggmark mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TB! 1.47 Halloween Edition S/N A7AB7B03, Windows 98 4.10 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Where is glyph.bmp?
Hello Christopher, CJT Perhaps you have the setting in Options/High-colour images turned off. CJT In this case, the file needs to be called glyphs16.bmp. That's right, I had! Now it works! Thanks, Christopher. -- Regards, Östen Häggmark mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TB! 1.47 Halloween Edition S/N A7AB7B03, Windows 98 4.10 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: AB group
Hello Jan, JR I'm afraid I'm still a bit confused about this subject. I was JR trying to set up a test group, i.e. give a group a name JR enter some email addresses for people who have the same thing JR in common. Then create a new msg address it to the list JR name. I tried this TB! wouldn't send the msg. What am I JR don't wrong here? How are you entering the group adress? I think you will have to use the group handle, not the name, followed by the word list. If your group's handle is "test" then write: test list At the FAQ site there is a part about how to set up a mailing list, where there is useful information about these things. -- Regards, Östen Häggmark mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TB! 1.47 Halloween Edition S/N A7AB7B03, Windows 98 4.10 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Where is glyph.bmp?
Hello Jason, JT The glyphs file must be saved as "glyphs.bmp" in your TB JT folder. By default, this is "C:\Program Files\The Bat!" Yes, that's what I did, even though the FAQ site says "glyph.bmp" (I tried both names) but to no avail. -- Regards, Östen Häggmark mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TB! 1.47 Halloween Edition S/N A7AB7B03, Windows 98 4.10 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Editing The Glyphs File
Hello Nick, 31 okt 2000 09:51:06 -0800, Nick Andriash wrote: NA Has anyone tried the instructions in the FAQ, using PSP? I NA try to follow the instructions, and get as far as choosing NA "Capture" A simple and straightforward method to capture is to simply press the Printscreen key, which will capture the picture you have on your monitor when you press the key, and place it in the Clipboard. Alt-Printscreen captures the active window only. This is not a PSP feature but works anytime. Open the program from where you want to capture the icons and press Prinstscreen. You can then Paste the capture into PSP (or any other program) and edit the picture from there. (Select the icons you want with the selection tools and Copy/Paste them into the glyphs file). NA There has to be a step or two missing from the FAQ? I think it could be clearer on same points. I'm curios, did you get the glyphs to work in the Bat? -- Regards, Östen Häggmark mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TB! 1.47 Halloween Edition S/N A7AB7B03, Windows 98 4.10 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Where is glyph.bmp?
Hello , I had a look at the FAQ site: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/glyphs.html But where is that glyph.bmp file? I can't find it anywhere. Shouldn't it be in the theBat! directory? -- Regards, Östen Häggmark mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TB! 1.47 Halloween Edition S/N A7AB7B03, Windows 98 4.10 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Where is glyph.bmp?
Hello Jason, 30 okt 2000 10:56:12 -0800, Jason Thompson wrote: JT The default TB glyphs are in the TB exe. Only add-on glyphs JT come in a separate file. You can download some glyphs files JT at the TBOT website, "Files" section: JT http://www.egroups.com/files/tbot Thank you Jason. I found a file there which seems to contain the default glyphs. Changed the first two glyphs and saved the file to the Bat directory but it doesn't seem to work for me... Consulted the FAQ again but couldn't see what else I should do. Not a life-and-death matter exactly, but... :-) -- Regards, Östen Häggmark mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TB! 1.47 Halloween Edition S/N A7AB7B03, Windows 98 4.10 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: templates via ab?
Hello Marck, 26 okt 2000 03:09:02 +0100, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: MDP A member of multiple groups favours the first group of which MDP they are a member. Right, well, it seems to difficult to keep track of, for me at least. I have removed all group templates. When I want to send mail to a group (newsletter type), I have created a "dummy" AB entry (goes back to myself) which holds the template for the newsletter. This I place in the To field. The grouphandle list goes to the Bcc field. -- Regards, Östen Häggmark mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TB! 1.46c S/N A7AB7B03, Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: templates via ab?
Hello Marck, Markus: MG I don't want to group my people by the language they speak. Mark: MDP You don't have to change that. You can add people to as many different MDP groups as you wish. The first one they appear in is the one whose MDP templates take precedence. That's why I said make two *primary* groups MDP to specify language. Could you please explain this? I have been trying to use Group templates but stopped. Because as soon as I send a mail to an AB entry that has no personal template, it picks up a template from one of the Groups it belongs to. Using Group templates implied having to create AB templates for every entry so I gave it up. I'm also bilingual 50/50 so to be able to set the spelling without having to create a template would be great. -- Regards, Östen Häggmark mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TB! 1.46c S/N A7AB7B03, Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: The Bat Interface
Hello Mark, ÖH Another note on Folder view: shouldn't there be a New ÖH message command? Marck D. Pearlstone It's not listed in the menu, but Ctrl-N Marck D. Pearlstone does work from Folder Marck D. Pearlstone View. Mark Worsham So does F5. That explains why Reply is Ctrl-F5 in the message menu. On the other hand, if I look in the right click menu, Reply is Ctrl-Enter. In the FAQ shortcut list, I also find: F4 = reply, quoting selected text Shift+F4 = reply without quotation Ctrl+F4= reply to the sender Forwarding has three different shortcuts in different places, Shift-F5, Ctrl-F and Shift-Enter. The last one doesn't seem to be on the FAQ shortcut list. There may well be some good reasons for this variety of shortcuts, but I cannot help getting a little confused :-) -- Best regards, Östenmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Setting spelling language in template?
Is there a way to set the spelling language through the template? If not it would be on my wish list. I constantly switch between writing in Swedish and English. -- Regards, Östen [EMAIL PROTECTED] TB! 1.46c, Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: The Bat Interface
Hello Havivah, HDS Views need to be consistently sticky, or not sticky at all. HDS To my mind it's more logical to have a view stick to a HDS folder, than to have a view stick to a screen (i.e., main HDS screen, view message screen, etc.). I feel like I want to defend the non-sticky-ness of the Folder view in particular, I find it very useful to be able to set up two different "views" of a folder, one in Main window and one in Folder view. But the difference between Main and Folder view is mainly the Account (folder) tree. Why not just make it possible to (in an easy way) hide/unhide the account tree, and there you have it: full width message list and preview pane with all settings preserved. Folder view can then be used to set up alternate views. Another note on Folder view: shouldn't there be a New message command? -- Best regards, Östenmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Curious - how did you find TB! ?
G There have been so many new "faces" in the group, i.e. Karin, G Havivah, and others, and such cultural diversity, I was curious how G did you find out about The Bat! My story is similar to many others I think, I was using Forte Agent but needed to use several accounts, I didn't want to use OE, and I certainly didn't want the ads in Eudora. So I tried some clients, and like many others, I immediately fell for the template capabilities in TB. Since so many witness that this feature is what made them give TB a chance, I really think that dev team should give priority to simplify the use of them, take away glitches, and supply better documenting. It's a strong feature for bringing in more users. I think that many who like me not really would define themselves as "power users" (whatever that is) still find this and other "advanced" features very useful. HDS But I fear that v2 will add features without making the HDS program more accessible to non-programmers. IMO, this would HDS be a mistake. The developers could should reduce the HDS learning curve -- by standardizing the keystrokes throughout HDS the program and reducing the # of keys you have to press for HDS the commands; getting someone to update the help files for HDS them; cleaning up the menus; adding a few more warning HDS dialogs to keep people from making mistakes (like my recent HDS mistake in clearing the account new message template). If HDS the same newbie questions are coming up over and over, isn't HDS it time to address them? I think that these are very wise words. I fail to see why taking user interface issues more into account would make TB a lesser "power tool". If a completely re-written v2 will add even more confusion for the new users, well... But maybe this is kicking in open doors? :-) -- Regards, Östen [EMAIL PROTECTED] TB! 1.46c, Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Subject on new user postings
Hello everyone, This is just a humble request so please don't take it in an offensive way, I'm a new user myself and desperately trying to follow all the useful information that comes out of all the "new user questions". Could we please try and let the subject line reflect the question and also maybe split the questions up in separate postings? It would be much easier to follow then, and reduce the risk of repeating questions. I'm not sure what the etiquette is on this topic but maybe one of the older hands could supply some information here. Once again, absolutely no offense intended. -- Regards, Östen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wednesday, September 20, 2000 10:20:25 AM TB! 1.46c, Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Subject on new user postings
TF You are rihgt, and this is actually said in the message you receive TF when you subscribe. Does anybody ever read it? Marck spent to much TF time creating it... Actually I did read it, but in my typical Swedish manner I didn't want to give the impression that I was a better human being than anyone else :-) ÖH I'm not sure what the etiquette is on this topic but maybe one of ÖH the older hands could supply some information here. TF^^^ ÖH Once again, absolutely no offense intended. TF No offence taken. I'm not a teenager any more, I have to face TF the fact now. :-) There is absolutely no way for me not to get my foot in the mouth is there...or how you say. :-) -- Regards, Östen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wednesday, September 20, 2000 11:56:17 AM TB! 1.46c, Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Keyboard Shortcut... (Ctrl+=)...
MRH I notice that only the 'Display all messages' option MRH has a keyboard shortcut listed and that is "Ctrl + =". Are you sure? In my Bat that shortcut designation is "Ctrl+Plus", same as auto-completion of address-book addresses. I've also noticed that TB uses "Ctrl-Å" for "Navigation-Move to next unread" in Folder View. The very nice letter Å is in the Swedish alphabet of course, but I seriously doubt it can be found on English keyboards. :-) Does TB somehow reflect what keyboard I use? -- Regards, Östen [EMAIL PROTECTED] TB! 1.46c, Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
NewB Q: Deleting threads/Key shortcuts in viewer
Hello everyone, Even if the Bat is a positive experience, I have to say that the number of questions I would like to put to the list is gathering up. :-) But I will try and restrain myself to a couple of small ones connected to the actual browsing of messages. If anyone will find the time to look into this I will be very grateful. English is not my first language so I'll be happy to explain better if necessary. 1. When I delete a thread, the "cursor" in the message pane jumps up from where ever I am to the first message/thread that is shown. I then have to move down through the messages to continue from the point I was earlier. Is this the way it should be? To me it would feel more natural if the "cursor" (what do you call it?) would just move to the next message/thread. 2. When I browse messages, I have the habit of moving through messages/threads with the arrow keys, doing "page down" in the preview pane with the space bar. Since the message pane has focus in this situation, the page up/down keys etc all work on the message pane only. I would like to be able to go back (up) to re-read something in a message by pressing Shift-Space bar or something like that. Is this possible? -- Regards, Östen [EMAIL PROTECTED] TB! 1.46c, Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: NewB Q: Deleting threads/Key shortcuts in viewer
ÖH 1. When I delete a thread, the "cursor" in the message ÖH pane jumps up from where ever I am to the first ÖH message/thread that is shown. Is this the way it should be? TF No, it's a bug qualified as an "annoyance" earlier today by two TF members of this list. Oh. Sorry, I didn't see that. (In fact I still can't see it. Which thread is it?) ÖH I would like to be able to go back (up) to re-read ÖH something in a message by pressing Shift-Space bar or ÖH something like that. Is this possible? TF Unfortunately not. I would like to see that feature, too. However, TF when you want to go back up, try ALT-UpArrow and see what happens. :-) Oh again. Should have tested that. :-) In fact I looked in the shortcut list at the FAQ page before posting, but the shortcut was listed there under Message List Window, so I guessed I overlooked it. -- Regards, Östen [EMAIL PROTECTED] TB! 1.46c, Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org [ attachment has been remove by MDaemon ]
Re[2]: Registered user features?
I realize I may appear petty-minded here but...telling people you'll get things if you pay, and then not delivering them, that's called...well you know what it's called. :-) Also, a note that the trial version is fully functional would, at least for me, give a more favorable impression. The hackers will hack in any case. The people who is willing to pay should be treated in a honest way. ÖH "The registration gives you the right to use The Bat! after the 30-day ÖH trial period, receive technical support and use features available ÖH only for registered users." ÖH If there are no such features, maybe that last bit should be removed. TF Or maybe not g. Makes people think they should pay and not just hack TF their way in. :-) -- Regards, Östen [EMAIL PROTECTED] TB! 1.45, Windows 98 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Registered user features?
Oh, I don't think there was ever an intent to deceive here. No I don't think so either. I overreacted there, I apologize sincerly. I think that line is just one of those loose ends - some day it will be tied up, I'm sure. As earlier said - the one thing TB isn't lacking is features. -- Regards, Östen [EMAIL PROTECTED] TB! 1.45, Windows 98 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Registered user features?
Not crippled in any way. Even if some report the opposite... The eval version stops working after the trial period but offers full functionality until the date of expiration. That's very good. Still, the first thing that meets your eye in the "How to register" page under the Help menu is the line: "The registration gives you the right to use The Bat! after the 30-day trial period, receive technical support and use features available only for registered users." If there are no such features, maybe that last bit should be removed. -- Regards, Östen [EMAIL PROTECTED] TB! 1.45, Windows 98 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Registered user features?
I have been trying the Bat for some weeks, and the decision to register the Bat was not a hard one to make. I never felt so at home with an email-client, even if it's going to take some time to learn to use it properly. The TBUDL-list is a very good way of doing that, I have found out. But as I was looking into the "How to register" page I noticed the line "use features available only for registered users." I can't find any references to these features. Of course there already are more features than I can use, but now that I'm registered, at least it would be fun to know which they are :-) -- Regards, Östen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sthlm, Sweden TB! 1.45, Windows 98 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: Addressing messages using address book?
Hi Krister, I'm a new user myself but I thought I'd answer you because I'm also Swedish and probably use the same keyboard. Ok thanks. Are we talking about the numeric plus here or the plus key on the main keyboard? I tried this feature but i couldn't get it to work, but that could be something i've missed again.:-) Both work for me in fact. (On a Swedish keyboard the plus is placed in a non-shifted position) Place the cursor in the relevant field, type the first letters in the address and press Ctrl - plus. Continue to press Ctrl - plus if there are several addresses in your addressbook that match the same characters, and you will cycle them all. To get several addresses in the same field you have to (at least I have to) put an semicolon or a comma after the first address. The semicolon or comma is automatically added to the next address. Try again! -- Regards, Östen [EMAIL PROTECTED] TB! 1.45, Windows 98 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Folders within folders?
ztrader How can I set up account folders within folders? A Curtis Martin Use CTRL+ALT dragging. It seems like CTRL + ALT + Drag moves folders up and down the hierarchy, except when you want to move a folder from a sublevel to the root position. Then it's back to ALT + Drag, whatever level you started from. -- Regards, Östen Häggmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Folders within folders?
MDP The rule is that Ctrl+Alt+Drag drops a folder *into* the folder on MDP which it is dropped while Alt+Drag drops a folder *alongside* the MDP folder on which it is dropped. Yes, except when I want to drag a subfolder back to the "root" level, then I have to use ALT + Drag. Sorry if what I wrote was a bit unclear. -- Regards, Östen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Folders within folders?
MDP That is because the top level "folder" isn't, strictly speaking, a MDP folder - it is the account. As such you can't drop a folder "into" it; MDP only alongside other root folders within it. That is why you have to MDP use Alt-Drag in that circumstance. Seems logical then - and at the same time not. It still feels like it's more intuitive to use Ctrl+Alt+drag for moving folders to different folder levels, including the root level, even if it, strictly speaking :), isn't a folder. I'm not so sure I even understand why there have to be two different commands for dragging folders. Why not just use Alt+drag for both operations? MPD it was just a good opportunity to make a MDP definitive statement for the sake of the "lurkers" ... you know MDP who you are! ;-) I certainly do :) -- Regards, Östen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
