Re: Deleating mail from server

2006-09-05 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Thomas,

On Tue, 5 Sep 2006 you wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

TF I see. Most free email addresses nowadays give you 1 GB of space, I
TF never got beyond the 5% mark... ;-

I must say that it certainly surprised the heck out of me when Wanadoo
used to write and say that the box was nearly full as I had messages
kept on the server for only 7 days then. I'm off that mailing list now
but I could never understand it although I never queried it. Should have
done I suppose as there were never more than a few hundred messages on
the server at the time.

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Re: Deleating mail from server

2006-09-04 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Granville,

On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

GC I am with ISP Orange. It used to be Freeserve, then Wanadoo and now
GC Orange. Recently I have not been able to control messages on the
GC server via The Bat!. I have The Bat! configured to 'Delete messages
GC from server when it is removed from trash'. This is no longer working.
GC I have looked at the settings on the Orange server. Is this the way it
GC is now or is there some setting I can adjust on The Bat! in order to
GC manage my mail as I used to?

I'm with Orange, as it is now, too have the same Trash setting. I have
always assumed that deleting from Trash means deleting from server but,
having just done a check, I see it's not the case. I even lowered my
trash maximum message number, did a full maintenance (which is scheduled
every night anyway) and still get the same number of messages on the
server.

Orange is deleting all the messages after the number of days to leave
on server setting. Strange.

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Re[2]: Deleating mail from server

2006-09-04 Thread Granville Cousins
Hello Richard,

Monday, September 4, 2006, 8:38:55 AM, you wrote:

Richard Hello Granville,

Richard On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

GC I am with ISP Orange. It used to be Freeserve, then Wanadoo and now
GC Orange. Recently I have not been able to control messages on the
GC server via The Bat!. I have The Bat! configured to 'Delete messages
GC from server when it is removed from trash'. This is no longer working.
GC I have looked at the settings on the Orange server. Is this the way it
GC is now or is there some setting I can adjust on The Bat! in order to
GC manage my mail as I used to?

Richard I'm with Orange, as it is now, too have the same Trash setting. I have
Richard always assumed that deleting from Trash means deleting from server but,
Richard having just done a check, I see it's not the case. I even lowered my
Richard trash maximum message number, did a full maintenance (which is 
scheduled
Richard every night anyway) and still get the same number of messages on the
Richard server.

Richard Orange is deleting all the messages after the number of days to leave
Richard on server setting. Strange.

Richard -- 
Richard Regards,
Richard Richard

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Yes, what a pain. I thought with time and increased knowledge things
would get more easy. Well Orange have definately made this opperation
more troublesome. Now I have to log onto their server everyday and
detete the messages manually. I need to do this because the volume of
spam mails builds up quite quickly. I run K9 on my computer and it
works fine. Can anyone think a a solution to this problem with Orange?

Granville.

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Re: Deleating mail from server

2006-09-04 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Granville,

On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 13:27:55 +0100 GMT (04/09/2006, 19:27 +0700 GMT),
Granville Cousins wrote:

GC Yes, what a pain. I thought with time and increased knowledge things
GC would get more easy. Well Orange have definately made this opperation
GC more troublesome. Now I have to log onto their server everyday and
GC detete the messages manually. I need to do this because the volume of
GC spam mails builds up quite quickly. I run K9 on my computer and it
GC works fine. Can anyone think a a solution to this problem with Orange?

I don't know how TB handles the Delete messages on server when
deleted from trash. I would assume it issues a DEL command for the
UID, and if that doesn't work, it could mean that Orange doesn't
handle the DEL command correctly.

But I wonder why you care. GMX also deletes messages on server after
60 days (the free accounts; paid-for account can store them forever),
and TB won't download them again, so I have no problem if they stay
there for some time. Why do you need to delete them from the server by
yourself?

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Re: Deleating mail from server

2006-09-04 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Granville,

On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

GC I run K9 on my computer and it works fine. Can anyone think a a
GC solution to this problem with Orange?

Maybe I can help. I used to use SpamPal and it was very satisfactory but
I read about AntispamSniper and that it could be used with Voyager as
well so thought I'd give it a try. There's a free and registered
version. I tried the free one and registered within a day as it was so
good and so easy to set up.

With the registered version you have the option to check for spam on the
server, on the server and TB! or just on TB!. Originally I just did it
on TB! but, after reading about your (and my) problem with Orange of
which I had no idea, I decided to retry the server side checking which
meant that I could delete all Spam on the server. It took an absolute
eternity as it reads messages in blocks of 20 and then thinks about them
for ages before dealing with them and moving on to the next 20 so you
can reckon on your TB! connection being totally tied up for about 7
minutes per 100 messages. However, after that first check, it then only
has to check with any new messages so is obviously very quick indeed.

The advantage of this is that you can set AntispamSniper to delete
messages higher than any score you want. I have mine set at 75 and there
are very few messages that get past that to the Junk Mail folder.

Since I started using it about 3 months ago I've only had a couple of
false negatives and that was right at the beginning.

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Re: Deleating mail from server

2006-09-04 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Thomas,

On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

TF Why do you need to delete them from the server by yourself?

I know this wasn't addressed to me but I used to be on a mailing list
that had a vast amount of JPGs enclosed with most messages and I had my
provider write to me on several occasions that my mail box was getting
full so I certainly had to clear out sometimes to make some space.

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Re: Deleating mail from server

2006-09-04 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Richard,

On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 19:16:32 +0200 GMT (05/09/2006, 00:16 +0700 GMT),
Richard Wakeford wrote:

TF Why do you need to delete them from the server by yourself?

RW I know this wasn't addressed to me but I used to be on a mailing list
RW that had a vast amount of JPGs enclosed with most messages and I had my
RW provider write to me on several occasions that my mail box was getting
RW full so I certainly had to clear out sometimes to make some space.

I see. Most free email addresses nowadays give you 1 GB of space, I
never got beyond the 5% mark... ;-)

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Re: Deleating mail from server

2006-09-03 Thread Granville Cousins
Hello TBUDL,

I am with ISP Orange. It used to be Freeserve, then Wanadoo and now
Orange. Recently I have not been able to control messages on the
server via The Bat!. I have The Bat! configured to 'Delete messages
from server when it is removed from trash'. This is no longer working.
I have looked at the settings on the Orange server. Is this the way it
is now or is there some setting I can adjust on The Bat! in order to
manage my mail as I used to?

Thank you,

-- 
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