Re: Downloading e-mail on to second computer
Hello Peter, On 18 June 2004, 02:01 +0200 (01:01 local time) Peter Ouwehand [PO] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...snip MW Windows XP warns you if you include a space in the share name; for MW example you wouldn't be able to access these shares from DOS. PO Such shares not being accessible by DOS is correct. But, really, who PO cares, I don't. My W2k does not warn about it (PC's on my network all PO run on W2k). I know NT4 warns you, but again, who cares about DOS these PO days?? It was the first MS-OS to support long (*NIX alike) PO directory/filenames. I think you would have the same problem with a Samba share. What you have works for you; that's okay. I was passing on best practice. Also, I'd be surprised if you can use hyper links to access network shares. MW I think you'll find it's the same for URI; you shouldn't include MW spaces in network resources. PO True for internet domain names. From the top of my head, not true for PO directory names, can't find the related RFC right now though. That's not what I was saying. \\SME\mp3 isn't a directory name it's a networking resource. That's why the UNC applies. PO Reviewing your original remark, we're getting off track here. Yep. I'll copy this to TBOT should you wish to continue the thread. PO Your comment was related to TB and windows shares like PO \\server\share. This is not internet related, which (very simply PO stated) uses protocol://server/dir/file. Look carefully; they're the same... using backslashes is a Windows thing. PO Just another remark: TB can't work with something like (windows) PO \\server\share to store mail bases. You'll need to use a mapped PO network drive for that. That's correct. -- As ever, :Martin_Webster: Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Downloading e-mail on to second computer
Peter- Thursday, June 17, 2004, 5:01:35 PM, you wrote: PO protocol://server/dir/file. Just another remark: TB can't work with PO something like (windows) \\server\share to store mail bases. You'll need PO to use a mapped network drive for that. My mail databases are stored in \\servername\sharepoint. I don't think I've had to use a mapped network drive since version 1.5x. I *do* keep a drive mapped to the mail directory just for easy access, but some time ago I started experimenting with changing the mapped entries to UNC entries and found that everything worked out fine. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Downloading e-mail on to second computer
On Thursday, June 17, 2004, 9:34:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thebat.exe is located in The Bat subdirectoy of the program directory. (I think!) I will try your suggestions, but, unfortunately, it will have to wait as the desktop is fully dismantled due to a flood in our basement office and it (the desktop) does not have wireless capability. I expect the desktop to be back up and running in about two weeks. In the meantime, I can access TBUDL through other channels. I have installed TB! in circumstances similar to yours without problems. In my case I keep all my downloaded files in a shared folder on my PC, which is accessible to other computers (laptops) on a peer to peer network which connects through an ADSL Router. In think that given the problems you are having, I would be tempted to download the TB! installation program direct from Ritlabs to your laptop and install from there. It sounds a bit like you have copied the TB executable to the laptop, rather than the installation package, which is why you are having problems. Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Downloading e-mail on to second computer
Hello Martin, On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 21:51:54 +0100 GMT (18/06/2004, 03:51 +0700 GMT), Martin Webster wrote: MW The file in the program directory isn't the installer. You will probably MW have to download that again... MW http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/the_bat_o.exe (unless you want MW to upgrade to version 2.) ^^^ Which version is that? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. There are plenty of fish in the sea¡K well that¡¦s great for the fish. But I date humans. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Downloading e-mail on to second computer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Thomas, On 18 June 2004, 01:37 +0700 (18/06/200419:37 local time) Thomas Fernandez [TF] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MW http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/the_bat_o.exe (unless you want MW to upgrade to version 2.) ^^^ TF Which version is that? I think it's 1.62. - -- As ever, :Martin_Webster: Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQNM8NTknq5PWREYNEQJYQgCeN6WbcDTrtMzvpPBJX4aUg7MRBjAAn3H/ jxq9kaDt0wRNnB6/HS1foztd =3u72 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Downloading e-mail on to second computer
I posted this earlier this week, but since there hasn't been any response, I thought I would try again. Way back in August 2003 I inquired about how to set up The Bat on a laptop, download e-mail from the server, and, eventually, transfer all of the downloaded e-mail to the pre-exising Bat file on my desktop. Alie's response clued me in to synchronization. Well, after 10 months, I am just getting around to setting up The Bat on the laptop, and I am running into a problem in just trying to copy the_bat_o.exe file to the laptop. When I run the setup file, I get the following error message when I attempt to install The Bat to the c:\program directory: cannot access directory \\DESKTOP\THE BAT!\MAI In place of the word desktop is the name that I assigned to the desktop computer on our in-home network. Why would it try to access the desktop? And, even though a Bat subdirectory was created within the program directory, when I attempt to click on the bat.exe file, I get the same error message. Why? Is this a network problem or is it a problem with the way in which I configured The Bat? -- Avi Avram Sacks Chicago, IL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also, please copy any response to [EMAIL PROTECTED], as well. running The Bat 1.62r using Win XP Pro. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Downloading e-mail on to second computer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], On 17 June 2004, 14:18 -0500 (20:18 local time) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [S] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: S I posted this earlier this week, but since there hasn't been any response, S I thought I would try again. Way back in August 2003 I inquired about how S to set up The Bat on a laptop, download e-mail from the server, and, S eventually, transfer all of the downloaded e-mail to the pre-exising Bat S file on my desktop. Alie's response clued me in to synchronization. Well, S after 10 months, I am just getting around to setting up The Bat on the S laptop, and I am running into a problem in just trying to copy S the_bat_o.exe file to the laptop. When I run the setup file, I get the S following error message when I attempt to install The Bat to the S c:\program directory: cannot access directory \\DESKTOP\THE BAT!\MAI This sounds like a networking problem. I presume you posted your original message from your desktop PC on your home network; i.e. Windows XP? Please explain briefly how the network is set up as this will help. Also, where is thebat.exe located; i.e the installer? S In place of the word desktop is the name that I assigned to the desktop S computer on our in-home network. S Why would it try to access the desktop? And, even though a Bat S subdirectory was created within the program directory, when I attempt to S click on the bat.exe file, I get the same error message. Why? Is this a S network problem or is it a problem with the way in which I configured The S Bat? You will have to setup a workgroup for your network; e.g. MSHOME. And in the workgroup you have at least two computers: DESKTOP and LAPTOP. If you share a folder called 'THE_BAT!' (in My Documents) it will be known as \\DESKTOP\THE_BAT! on your network. You need to copy the installer (thebat.exe) to this folder. Note: shares cannot have spaces in their name. Now, from your laptop you need to open 'My Network Places'. If you've set up the network correctly you will see a folder called 'THE_BAT! on DESKTOP' (or similar). Open the folder and copy thebat.exe to a folder on your laptop. Now you should be able to run the installer without problem. If you can't copy the file across... there's a network problem that needs sorting first. - -- As ever, :Martin_Webster: Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQNH7KTknq5PWREYNEQJ5agCfWEYavJEH9MSj+z5aUR+1aF2RXTEAmwUe dX9E+SCx8eb5H6ObD/F3f+Dl =F3fN -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Downloading e-mail on to second computer
Martin Webster wrote in response to my query re problems copying The Bat to a laptop from my desktop: This sounds like a networking problem. I presume you posted your original message from your desktop PC on your home network; i.e. Windows XP? Yes. I originally posted from the desktop PC. Both the desktop and the laptop use XP Pro. Please explain briefly how the network is set up as this will help. Cable from outside feeds into modem, which, in turn, feeds into Linksys 4 port, wireless router. Desktop is connected via CAT5 cable to router. Laptop can be connected to router either via CAT5 cable or Dell Truemobile wireless card. I almost always use the wireless card. Also, where is thebat.exe located; i.e the installer? Thebat.exe is located in The Bat subdirectoy of the program directory. (I think!) I will try your suggestions, but, unfortunately, it will have to wait as the desktop is fully dismantled due to a flood in our basement office and it (the desktop) does not have wireless capability. I expect the desktop to be back up and running in about two weeks. In the meantime, I can access TBUDL through other channels. -- Avi Avram Sacks Chicago running The Bat 1.62r on Win XPpro Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Downloading e-mail on to second computer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], On 17 June 2004, 15:34 -0500 (21:34 local time) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [S] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This sounds like a networking problem. I presume you posted your original message from your desktop PC on your home network; i.e. Windows XP? S Yes. I originally posted from the desktop PC. Both the desktop and the S laptop use XP Pro. Please explain briefly how the network is set up as this will help. S Cable from outside feeds into modem, which, in turn, feeds into Linksys 4 S port, wireless router. Desktop is connected via CAT5 cable to router. S Laptop can be connected to router either via CAT5 cable or Dell Truemobile S wireless card. I almost always use the wireless card. Also, where is thebat.exe located; i.e the installer? S Thebat.exe is located in The Bat subdirectoy of the program directory. (I S think!) I will try your suggestions, but, unfortunately, it will have to S wait as the desktop is fully dismantled due to a flood in our basement S office and it (the desktop) does not have wireless capability. I expect S the desktop to be back up and running in about two weeks. In the meantime, S I can access TBUDL through other channels. The file in the program directory isn't the installer. You will probably have to download that again... http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/the_bat_o.exe (unless you want to upgrade to version 2.) Since your laptop has direct access to the Internet via your router you may as well download it to your laptop's desktop and install from there. - -- As ever, :Martin_Webster: Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQNIEbjknq5PWREYNEQKHxgCfdfBr8+Ns9m7qLsy7ifSc4bOTgYkAoIGf A0mI50lzQZ6yKaenawtOkJVZ =ZiCS -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Downloading e-mail on to second computer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Peter, On 17 June 2004, 22:53 +0200 (21:53 local time) Peter Ouwehand [PO] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MW Note: shares cannot have spaces in their name. PO Are you sure? I've been using shares with spaces in their name for PO years. Yes, I think so... the shared folder may be called 'Shared Documents' on your PC but the share would have to be named 'SharedDocs' of whatever with no spaces. However, folders in the share can have spaces; e.g. \\SME\mp3\Rush\Rush - A Farewell To Kings. This follows the uniform naming convection (UNC). - -- As ever, :Martin_Webster: Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQNII3Tknq5PWREYNEQIY5gCg80l8VG64aUaw3G9RgdGuiL0uCi0An1Du hSBAi+gQze8tRoAI1ol+0AT2 =Jlji -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Downloading e-mail on to second computer
Hello Peter, On 17 June 2004, 23:39 +0200 (22:39 local time) Peter Ouwehand [PO] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MW Yes, I think so... the shared folder may be called 'Shared Documents' on MW your PC but the share would have to be named 'SharedDocs' of whatever MW with no spaces. However, folders in the share can have spaces; e.g. MW \\SME\mp3\Rush\Rush - A Farewell To Kings. MW This follows the uniform naming convection (UNC). PO Have a look at http://ouwehand.net/~thebat/w2k-shares/ Then your shares would not be accessible universally. Windows XP warns you if you include a space in the share name; for example you wouldn't be able to access these shares from DOS. I think you'll find it's the same for URI; you shouldn't include spaces in network resources. -- As ever, :Martin_Webster: Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) pgpNzMk39prR3.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Downloading e-mail on to second computer
Way back in August 2003 I inquired about how to set up The Bat on a laptop, download e-mail from the server, and, eventually, transfer all of the downloaded e-mail to the pre-exising Bat file on my desktop. Alie's response clued me in to synchronization. Well, after 10 months, I am just getting around to setting up The Bat on the laptop, and I am running into a problem in just trying to copy the_bat_o.exe file to the laptop. When I run the setup file, I get the following error message when I attempt to install The Bat to the c:\program directory: cannot access directory \\DESKTOP\THE BAT!\MAI Why would it try to access the desktop? And, even though a Bat subdirectory was created within the program directory, when I attemtp to click on the bat.exe file, I get the same error message. Why? -- Avi Avram Sacks Chicago, IL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also, please copy any response to [EMAIL PROTECTED], as well. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Downloading e-mail on to second computer
Circumstances require me to be away from my primary pc for a number of weeks. Mail is backing up on the server and will soon exceed the 10 MB limit. My laptop, which I am currently using does not have The Bat loaded on to it.I would like to install The Bat on to the laptop, download e-mail from the server, and, eventually, transfer all of the downloaded e-mail to the pc with The Bat, when I return. Is this possible? If so, how do I do this? In order to install The Bat on to my laptop, do I need a second license? If so, how can I determine if I didn't purchase one at the time that I originally purchased The Bat? Unfortunately, I do not have access to my purchase information.If it makes any difference, I also have a highly complex directory structure on the home pc, that I could not possibly recreate from memory. For the time that I am away, can I create a structure on the laptop, but when I load all of the laptop e-mail to the home pc, can I have the home pc refilter everything that is on the laptop into the correct folders. -- Avi Avram Sacks using (on my home pc) The Bat ver. 1.63h (I think); P4 XP pro. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Downloading e-mail on to second computer
scc In order to install The Bat on to my laptop, do I need a second license? if it is just for your use, I don't think so, I have a copy on my laptop and my home PC, but I ( and wife) are the only ones that use either copy. scc recreate from memory. For the time that I am away, can I create a scc structure on the laptop, but when I load all of the laptop e-mail to the scc home pc, can I have the home pc refilter everything that is on the laptop scc into the correct folders. tools-Synchronize it makes both computers have the same messages.. I use it when I go out of town.. -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.0 Beta/3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Downloading e-mail on to second computer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sacksa, [S] wrote: S Circumstances require me to be away from my primary pc for a number S of weeks. Mail is backing up on the server and will soon exceed the S 10 MB limit. My laptop, which I am currently using does not have The S Bat loaded on to it. I would like to install The Bat on to the S laptop, download e-mail from the server, and, eventually, transfer S all of the downloaded e-mail to the pc with The Bat, when I return. S Is this possible? If so, how do I do this? Install TB! on the laptop. Create and configure the accounts. Download the mail, then do a synchronization on just the folders with messages. The synchronisation involves providing the laptop installation with a current snapshot of your desktop system. The snapshot is created by running step 1 of the synchronisation process on the desktop machine. Copy the snapshot to disk and then using this, create the synchronisation data file on the laptop. To do this run step 2 of the synchronisation process on the laptop. It'll ask for the desktop snapshot file when doing so. Finally, run step 3 on the desktop machine using the synchronisation data file you created on the laptop. - -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP0ajmFfJ62ArBxfiEQK8JwCg0yfzmlRbd7zPoEL9UWzwd2VrbV8AnixF 4cv6RMvfmgxyFPrNP+XUF7oe =qon5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Downloading e-mail on to second computer
In mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to install The Bat on to the laptop, download e-mail from the server, and, eventually, transfer all of the downloaded e-mail to the pc with The Bat, when I return. Is this possible? Yes, it is. If so, how do I do this? My preferred method is as follows: In the laptop installed Bat!, create a new filter that catches _all_ incoming mail. Move it to the top of the filter-list. Under Tab Actions select Export Message to file and name the directory\file where the messages are to be saved into. Choose Unix Mailbox file as Export format. Choose Append to existing file. This filter will create a copy of _all_ incoming mail into 1 standard unix mailbox formatted file. [] can I have the home pc refilter everything that is on the laptop into the correct folders. This should be the easiest part. All mail received on your laptop is in one file. You can now import this file into the Inbox of the home pc (click on Inbox, choose: Tools - Import Messages - From UNIX-mailboxes and select filename). Then choose Folder - Re-filter and all imported messages are now processed according to your home pc filter settings! Arjan Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Downloading e-mail on to second computer
Hello sacksa, On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 16:40:21 -0500 GMT (23/08/2003, 04:40 +0700 GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In order to install The Bat on to my laptop, do I need a second license? The licences for the 1.xx versions are one-person licences. You can use TB with one registration on different computers, but not at the same time. This was Ritlab's reply to me when I asked them the same question a few years ago, as I had one copy of TB installed at home, and another one in the office. The licences for v2 will be single-computer licences, the way I read it, but don't quote me on that. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Junk is something you've kept for years and throw away three weeks before you need it. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.0 Beta/3 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
