Re: 5.0.12 corrupts saved drafts
Hi On Saturday 7 May 2011 at 5:43:30 AM, in mid:1655383531.20110507004...@yahoo.com, Sam Brown wrote: Then you're probably sending it to the wrong place. It might be better to post to the Bug tracker where developers will actually see it. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/my_view_page.php Good luck! And since others have been unable to reproduce your findings, I'd suggest adding a sample message and some screenshots to the report. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com Was time invented by an Irishman named O'Clock? Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 5.0.8 corrupts saved drafts
Create an HTML email. Save it. Close it. Open it. What you see is garbage, though the underlying message still is okay if you print it. Regards, Gary Odom g...@waterfire.us Friday, May 6, 2011 7:46:29 AM The Bat! version 4.2.42 OS = Windows XP 5.1 Tuesday, May 3, 2011, 7:46:29 AM, Thomas wrote: Hello Gary, On Tue, 3 May 2011 16:46:26 +1000 GMT (03/May/11, 13:46 PM +0700 GMT), g...@waterfire.us wrote: gwu 5.0.8 corrupts any saved draft email. The Bat! staff confirmed this. gwu Poor form not to have found this in testing before product release. I'm reading the beta list and I haven't heard about this problem before. Please explain what you see and what is corrupted. Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.8 corrupts saved drafts
On Friday, May 6, 2011, 3:04:23 PM, Gary Odom wrote: Create an HTML email. easily done. did you have any particular type of content in mind? Save it. done Close it. It's already closed, by the way I saved it. Open it. What you see is garbage, Mine looks fine. What do you mean by 'garbage' exactly? though the underlying message still is okay if you print it. looked fine when I sent and received it. Have no idea what you did, or what happened. Can't recreate it with so little description. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.0.12.1 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 5.0.12 corrupts saved drafts
Create an HTML email (with images and various text styles). Save it. Close it. Open it. What you see is garbage, though the underlying message still is okay if you print it. Just checked 5.0.12. Same corruption. The drafts in the Outbox that existed from an earlier version turned to garbage (HTML with images and various font stylings). Software testing requires testing various scenarios Dwight. If you have no idea of what I did, then your literacy skills are in question. I'm reporting a warning of a consistent problem. I'm not expecting the people on this mailing list to fix it. Regards, Gary Odom g...@waterfire.us Friday, May 6, 2011 1:38:36 PM The Bat! version 4.2.42 OS = Windows XP 5.1 Friday, May 6, 2011, 1:38:36 PM, Dwight wrote: On Friday, May 6, 2011, 3:04:23 PM, Gary Odom wrote: Create an HTML email. easily done. did you have any particular type of content in mind? Save it. done Close it. It's already closed, by the way I saved it. Open it. What you see is garbage, Mine looks fine. What do you mean by 'garbage' exactly? though the underlying message still is okay if you print it. looked fine when I sent and received it. Have no idea what you did, or what happened. Can't recreate it with so little description. Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12 corrupts saved drafts
On Friday, May 6, 2011, 9:06:12 PM, Gary Odom wrote: Software testing requires testing various scenarios Dwight. If you have no idea of what I did, then your literacy skills are in question. No. I think it may be your literary skills. When I created an html mail it looked fine. Software requires some description of the problem, I don't see any. garbage is pretty non-specific. I still don't know if it's the images, and I'm not sure what text styles are. Do you mean different fonts, different colors, different sizes? -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.0.12.1 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12 corrupts saved drafts
Friday, May 6, 2011, 10:06:12 PM, Gary wrote: GO Create an HTML email (with images and various text styles). GO Save it. Close it. Open it. What you see is garbage, GO though the underlying message still is okay if you print it. GO Just checked 5.0.12. Same corruption. GO The drafts in the Outbox that existed from an earlier version turned to garbage GO (HTML with images and various font stylings). I just tested this in 5.0.8 and everything seems fine. The part you aren't specific about is what type of save you did. I did Save as draft and I think Dwight did as well. When I tried a simple Save As I think the message got saved out as flat text with no markup, which isn't unexpected. GO Software testing requires testing various scenarios Dwight. If you have no idea GO of what I did, then your literacy skills are in question. Since this seems like it might be an issue on your end, it'll require a lot more testing of those various scenarios you mention. GO I'm reporting a warning of a consistent problem. I'm not GO expecting the people on this mailing list to GO fix it. Then you're probably sending it to the wrong place. It might be better to post to the Bug tracker where developers will actually see it. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/my_view_page.php Good luck! -Sam Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
5.0.8 corrupts saved drafts
5.0.8 corrupts any saved draft email. The Bat! staff confirmed this. Poor form not to have found this in testing before product release. Regards, Gary Odom Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.8 corrupts saved drafts
Hello Gary, On Tue, 3 May 2011 16:46:26 +1000 GMT (03/May/11, 13:46 PM +0700 GMT), g...@waterfire.us wrote: gwu 5.0.8 corrupts any saved draft email. The Bat! staff confirmed this. gwu Poor form not to have found this in testing before product release. I'm reading the beta list and I haven't heard about this problem before. Please explain what you see and what is corrupted. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Two notes on Drafts folder BT wish and that is it all on my part
Hello all, Last night Stephan suggested the use of a VF as a 'replacement' for a real Drafts folder and I assume it was him, but I don't know, who uploaded two PNGs in BT to show 'how easy it is'. Well I have added two notes to BT that basically say: To whomever has uploaded the two PNGs 'suggesting' the use of a Virtual Folder: 1.- He hasn't stopped to think what I am proposing and why 2.- A VF is NOT an alternative to OPF. 3.- With a VF, messages to be sent and drafts will still be mixed in the same physical folder, Outbox 4.- A VF doesn't solve the issue of distinguishing drafts from messages to be sent that the user has parked for whatever reasons. The park and draft flag is the same. 5.- With a separate Drafts folder, the risk of unintentionally sending out a draft is minimised as the user has to open the draft in Editor and then Send. 6.- A VF doesn't change the fact that you can still copy/move messages to Outbox, maybe unintentionally, and even with filters and with folder Alternate Deletions and you still need the euphemistically called Outbox Protection Feature. 7.- A VF is not a solution for the so called 'average users' who may not well understand what VFs are, specially at first, and specially for novice ones who are initially annoyed because they can't find the Drafts folder everyone expects at first. 8.- If I suggest that draft messages be always initially parked in not to avoid (or minimise) the risk sending them out unintentionally but of deleting them and perhaps waste hours of work. And something I forgot when I opened this TB wish: - A real Drafts folder should allow saving the draft message without having filled the To or Subject fields (required now to save a draft in Outbox). A draft is a non finished message/document you are working on and you may not know exactly to whom you are going to send it or what you want the Subject to be. How is that solved with a VF or with the current implementation of Outbox? Finally, whoever has uploaded the PNGs, hasn't stopped to think what the words 'concept', 'logic', 'elegance', 'simplicity' and 'intuitiveness' mean. And, as the Subject says, that is all about this Drafts folder issue on my part. I don't want to further discuss with anyone to avoid perhaps getting into 'personal issues'. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.12 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Two notes on Drafts folder BT wish and that is it all on my part
Hello MAU, On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:15:19 +0100 GMT (15/12/2005, 17:15 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: M 7.- A VF is not a solution for the so called 'average users' who may not M well understand what VFs are, specially at first, and specially for M novice ones who are initially annoyed because they can't find the Drafts M folder everyone expects at first. One remark on number 7 of your Two notes: There are written standards (like the RFCs) and there are de-facto standards. The latter belong to the category what everyone expects. I agree that a draft folder is such a de-facto standard. That MS-products also have it doesn't mean it's necessarily bad; products from other vendors have it as well, and that's because it makes sense. Especially for the newbie who switches to TB from another email client. I'm not a newbie and I have accustomed to TB's way of working, but I see your point. So, no supporting bugnote from me as I personally don't care, but a confirmation that it is expected, and the functions (like PGP-relevance) are not fulfilled by parking the message in the Outbox, and editability is not available when creating a Drafts folder by yourself (but I think that messages in all folders should be editable, but that's another issue). -- Cheers, Thomas. How long a minute is depends on what side of the bathroom door you're on. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.63.06 (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Two notes on Drafts folder BT wish and that is it all on my part
On Thursday, December 15, 2005, 8:08:39 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: (but I think that messages in all folders should be editable, but that's another issue). yes. that is another long sought and irrationally resisted feature. fixing that would render the current discussion moot. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.63.08 (Beta) on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I have another good reason to ask for a Drafts folder, in this case also FOR ME
Hello MAU! On Thursday, December 15, 2005, 4:02 PM, you wrote: Scenario: You start a reply to any message and 'Save as draft'. What happens when you 'Save as draft': ... skipped account of horrifying and convincing real-life scenario MIguel, I believe it would be valuable for you to do a cp of the body of this post into an additional note at https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Anyone using The Bat! has to be on pretty high alert to keep one of its foibles from embarrassing him, or worse. The main thing TB! has going for it, with me, is the safety provided to me by the capability of examining each and every message entry on the Message Dispatcher before choosing to Download it to my machine. For the rest of what it does for me, my motto is: Stay Alert. -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Mary The Bat! 3.63.08 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
I have another good reason to ask for a Drafts folder, in this case also FOR ME
Hello all, Scenario: You start a reply to any message and 'Save as draft'. What happens when you 'Save as draft': 1.- The message you are replying to is marked as Replied. Why if you have not finished your reply? 2.- If you use Replied filters (I do) they are tested and, if the conditions of any of them are met, it/they will trigger and execute the actions. Why if you have not actually replied, you are just in the process of doing so? Possible consequences: A.- If you have any VF in which one of the filter conditions is 'Attributes is not Replied', because the message that you _are_ _replying_ to is already marked as Replied it will disappear from your VF (assuming that Auto-refresh works properly, as it seems in latest versions). B.- Depending on the actions of the Replied filter(s) triggered, your original message may change Colour Group (and in turn perhaps 'disappear' from other VFs) and even be moved to a different folder. C.- If you later reopen your reply from Outbox to continue editing, the original message you were replying to may not be available in the VF you were replying from, and perhaps not even available in the original physical folder if it was moved by a filter. Which is the best way to search for it, and where, to continue with the reply? D.- If you later delete your reply either directly from Outbox or after reopening it for further edit, the original message remains marked as Replied, with possible consequences on VFs as explained in A and maybe assigned to another colour group or even moved to a different folder by a filter. Why if you have not actually replied to it? Possible solution? Easy! some may think. They can add code (protection feature?) so that when 'Saving as Draft' (to the Outbox) the original message is not marked as replied and Replied filters are not tested, so none will trigger and no actions will take place. Yes, easy but there is a Gotcha! Assume the 'easy fix' is already implemented and you save your reply (partial or not) as draft. - What happens if you later go to Outbox and remove the park/draft flag and do a Shift+F2 (Send queued mail)? Yes, your draft is sent (it doesn't matter now if it was complete or not). But your original message, the one you have _replied_ to, will never be marked as Replied and, because Replied filters will NOT be tested and perhaps triggered, some possible actions on the original message will not be taken. Why, if you have actually replied to this message and even sent the reply? However, if there were separate folders for Drafts and Outbox... I'm sure you know what I mean, don't you? Why do I come up with all of this now? Yes, believe it or not I had this experience today. I was writing a reply, got a phone call and saved my reply as draft. When I finished the call and reopened the reply to continue... where the heck is my original message?!?! -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.12 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Winamp Playing: Angela Bofill - Sail Away (Smoothjazz.Com - The worlds best Smooth Jazz - Live From Monterey Bay) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I have another good reason to ask for a Drafts folder, in this case also FOR ME
Hello Mary, MIguel, I believe it would be valuable for you to do a cp of the body of this post into an additional note at https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Let me breath, I was going to anyway :) Done. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.12 (Beta) Winamp Playing: Yellowjackets - Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas (Smoothjazz.Com - The worlds best Smooth Jazz - Live From Monterey Bay) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I have another good reason to ask for a Drafts folder, in this case also FOR ME
Hello MAU! On Thursday, December 15, 2005, 4:31 PM, you wrote: MIguel, I believe it would be valuable for you to do a cp of the body of this post into an additional note at https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Let me breath, I was going to anyway :) Sorry. But it was just so excellent!! Done. The notification e-mail has just arrived. :) -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Mary The Bat! 3.63.08 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP Signing, and drafts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jonathan, @26 July 2002, 17:15 -0500 (23:15 UK time) Jonathan Angliss [JA] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to TBUDL: JA ... Now repeat the process, but before sending, stick it in the JA draft folder, reopen, and send, and it doesn't sign it... any idea JA why? Yes. The SignComplete and UsePGP flag settings reset to the account default values when reopening a draft message. This happens in reverse when the account is set for signing by default and an unsigned message is saved as draft and subsequently reopened. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9QemVOeQkq5KdzaARAiEQAKCoLJPV1MH0tusr8/s5yiryp4YAUACfWwmR CIjgiPL/EpAAKjkxxBmjWfI= =z7kq -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: PGP Signing, and drafts
On Fri, 2002-07-26 at 19:30, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: JA ... Now repeat the process, but before sending, stick it in the JA draft folder, reopen, and send, and it doesn't sign it... any idea JA why? Yes. The SignComplete and UsePGP flag settings reset to the account default values when reopening a draft message. This happens in reverse when the account is set for signing by default and an unsigned message is saved as draft and subsequently reopened. Wouldn't you class that as a bug though? Or is that one of those undocumented features? Personally I find it rather annoying, there is a reason I set it in certain templates to sign, and in others, to leave it unsigned... having to remember to resign it after storing it as a draft is a pain, especially when you get several hundred emails a day, without counting the work load as well ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: PGP Signing, and drafts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jonathan, @27 July 2002, 20:14 -0500 (02:14 UK time) Jonathan Angliss in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to The Bat User List: Yes. The SignComplete and UsePGP flag settings reset to the account default values when reopening a draft message. This happens in reverse when the account is set for signing by default and an unsigned message is saved as draft and subsequently reopened. Wouldn't you class that as a bug though? Not really. It's more what it is than a bug (see below). Or is that one of those undocumented features? Again, not really. It's one of the shortcomings of the V1 design. Personally I find it rather annoying, So do I. If you are interested in why - the message data doesn't include anywhere to save the flag settings. Hopefully v2 will address this design hole. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9QfWmOeQkq5KdzaARAhqaAKDsSwDrpWs+FvnI/b7/ne9OyNmrKQCgyRnG 2s5oIYvXy2n30dUZFxW3hrM= =jJXh -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Email references (was: Drafts)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Jonathan Angliss [JA] wrote: ... Alllie, does this require you to manually create a backup file from within TB! on a regular basis? Not at all. It's completely automated. It's a full backup of my current installation done at 3 am each morning. JA At a guess... no... Winrar appears to compress the Mail dir, and JA put it on the server... or should I say update the one on the JA server. It updates it yes. If I were to delete the archive on the server, WinRAR will just create a whole new one as the update. :-)) One of the reasons why I love WinRAR. It's great CLI options and highly reliable unattended archiving. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60n | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8+fQbV8nrYCsHF+IRAjrbAJ9T5PphUILqva8g6XW6n6TDf7oOWwCgkkpd k3w6uDlf9Irh24RM8UnCPDc= =KwJL -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
Hello Adam, On Fri, 31 May 2002 20:04:13 -0230 GMT (01/06/02, 05:34 +0700 GMT), Adam wrote: TF Yes. I have such messages in a Common Folder. You can call this TF folder Drafts or Templates, as you wish. A How do you get messages in there? Drag Drop. If it is a incoming message, then you just dd. If you want to create a template from scratch, you hit New Message in any account, type your template, Save as Draft, and then dd from the Outbox to your Keepers folder. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Blamestorming: Sitting around in a group discussing why a deadline was missed or a project failed, and who was responsible. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60m under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Salutation Miguel On 31 May 2002 at 22:59:45 +0200 (which was 21:59 where I live) Miguel A. Urech graced us with these comments Another one is a message parked in the Outbox, is a message that has been completed but you don't want to send yet. Right. And one of the reasons for not wanting to send it yet may be that the message is not complete :) and that is a draft. I find that it is very dangerous not to have the ability to distinguish between a message that is unfinished and one that is finished but not ready to send. It might be parked in the outbox for a number of different reasons my main one is that I don't want to send the message yet but after an event or time that I waiting for. - -- TTFN, ___ David | SecureBat!1.60l | E-mailaholics | _| Win 2K Server 5.0.2195 SP2 | International | | I'm Buster Borg. And I'm Babs Borg. (Both) No assimilation! | ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr1-rc1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE8+I5i+Yrx5mUPRTQRAqPhAJ0YEibFuqZguKiGCjlYfhEaVAeOVQCguDbI FSvWFUAsScYIAoF5dhiR/TM= =A4aN -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: mid: links [was Re: Drafts]
On Saturday, June 1, 2002, 12:34:39 AM, Adam wrote: I tried clicking on that mid link. But nothing happened. Does something happen for you? By click, read double-click, at least on my PC. If TB cannot find the message, it pops up a dialog asking where it should look, and if it cannot then find the message, it displays a message saying so. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60m on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Drafts
Thomas- Point well taken. But it still seems to me that the mid: link is *only* useful in the TBUDL context, or in a similar situation where a group of users has the same set of email archives to each other. If I send you a mid: link to some other folder in my system it's useless to you. And a waste of bandwidth, to get back to your point. All the mid: link did for me was to bring up the search window, since I had already deleted the original reference. Friday, May 31, 2002, 9:26:25 PM, you wrote: TF If I have the message on my computer, it shows up in a fraction of a TF second. If I have to connect to the archives, I would probably not TF even bother. TF I am currently downloading TB 1.60n at a speed of 853 bps, if you get TF my meaning. Not every country has broadband access. -Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.60h on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
Hello Mark, On Sat, 1 Jun 2002 09:34:04 -0700 GMT (01/06/02, 23:34 +0700 GMT), Mark Wieder wrote: MW Point well taken. But it still seems to me that the mid: link is MW *only* useful in the TBUDL context, or in a similar situation where a MW group of users has the same set of email archives to each other. If I MW send you a mid: link to some other folder in my system it's useless to MW you. And a waste of bandwidth, to get back to your point. I wouldn't say so. Of course, the link works only if I have the message with that mid on my computer, too. But if I haven't no bandwidth is wasted. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Wann wird denn endlich der Niagara-Fall geloest oder die Formel 1 ausgerechnet ?? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60n under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Drafts
Saturday, June 1, 2002, 9:48:36 AM, you wrote: ACM It doesn't have to only work in a user list setting. If we've been ACM exchanging mail privately and I wish to refer you to a message I sent ACM to you 2 months ago, a mid: link could make life much easier for you ACM where referring back to the message is concerned. That is unless you ACM delete your private mail as well. I do indeed. I don't regard email archives as particularly safe places to store info I want to refer to later, especially with the random corrupted messages bases I've run into occasionally. I keep my attachments in separate folders (I wish this were the default setting for TB) and I save emails with tips and such in separate files where my OS can deal with finding them (and quite a few of your previous emails are stored there). With TBUDL, I try to rely on the archives rather than on my own saved emails. ACM Is the less than a line of text really a significant waste of ACM bandwidth considering that others may benefit form its being there? :-) The bandwidth issue doesn't really affect me since I'm on a DSL link, but I'm considering those on slower links. It's true that it's not a lot of bytes and I probably shouldn't even think about it, but what about all the followup discussion this has caused? g For the same reason I usually try to refrain from being too much of a wiseass on listservs, but sometimes it just gets away from me... -Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.60h on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Mark Wieder [MW] wrote: ... MW Point well taken. But it still seems to me that the mid: link is MW *only* useful in the TBUDL context, or in a similar situation MW where a group of users has the same set of email archives to each MW other. It doesn't have to only work in a user list setting. If we've been exchanging mail privately and I wish to refer you to a message I sent to you 2 months ago, a mid: link could make life much easier for you where referring back to the message is concerned. That is unless you delete your private mail as well. MW If I send you a mid: link to some other folder in my system it's MW useless to you. And a waste of bandwidth, Is the less than a line of text really a significant waste of bandwidth considering that others may benefit form its being there? :-) MW to get back to your point. All the mid: link did for me was to MW bring up the search window, since I had already deleted the MW original reference. Yes, it didn't work because you delete a lot of your list messages including the one the mid link pointed to. You'll therefore not find them useful in many instances where you see them. I don't use the list footers either since I don't need to. However, I can't call them being there a waste of bandwidth. :-) - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60n | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8+PrlV8nrYCsHF+IRAlnMAKD78S1CT7ThwjhwO71bOqlk+pIeUACg2WEB C38HumqJ581wsaVS3NBJET8= =+V9p -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Email references (was: Drafts)
Hello Mark, PMFJI. On Sat, 1 Jun 2002 10:08:57 -0700 GMT (02/06/02, 00:08 +0700 GMT), Mark Wieder wrote: MW I don't regard email archives as particularly safe places to store MW info I want to refer to later, especially with the random MW corrupted messages bases I've run into occasionally. [...] I save MW emails with tips and such in separate files where my OS can deal MW with finding them (and quite a few of your previous emails are MW stored there). What an excessive amount of work, I'd say. But everybody has (obviously) his own way of working. MW With TBUDL, I try to rely on the archives rather than on my own MW saved emails. With the non-existent bandwidth-problem, as you have mentioned, it seems to be a resonable choice. But then, if anybody refers to a message previously sent, a message he still has on his system (ML messages are deleted here after 90 days only), would you expect him to dig into the archives and find out the URL to that message? Hardly efficient. MW The bandwidth issue doesn't really affect me since I'm on a DSL link, MW but I'm considering those on slower links. It's true that it's not a MW lot of bytes and I probably shouldn't even think about it, but what MW about all the followup discussion this has caused? g I understand you are not serious about this, as I (the guy with the slow link, remember?) prefer mid's rather than links to the online-archive. ;-) MW For the same reason I usually try to refrain from being too much MW of a wiseass on listservs, but sometimes it just gets away from MW me... Brhaha ;-) You couldn't restrain yourself this time, could you. g -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Ever notice that PRICE and WORTH mean the same thing, but priceless and worthless are opposites? --Jay Trachman Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60n under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Re: Drafts
This is one of those threads I haven't been tracking, but something now pulled me in, and going back through what I still have on my system, is a message with this text: MW If I send you a mid: link to some other folder in my system it's MW useless to you. And a waste of bandwidth, The idea of an MID link seems like a good idea to me, but I don't understand this description of an MID being a link to a folder. Isn't the folder issue a completely separate issue? The point is that the users decide how to arrange their own archives, but the MID is a quick way to find a specific message within those archives. And if the user needs a particular folder as a hint for where to focus the MID, then perhaps the archiving system is deficient. Again, that's not a reason not to use MID's. Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Email references (was: Drafts)
Thomas- Saturday, June 1, 2002, 11:19:15 AM, you wrote: TF What an excessive amount of work, I'd say. But everybody has TF (obviously) his own way of working. It's based on having lost months' worth of emails from corrupted message bases in the past. I try to play it safe these days and email folders with their contents constantly changing don't seem like particularly safe repositories for things I care about. YMMV. -Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.60h on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Email references (was: Drafts)
Hello Mark, On Sat, 1 Jun 2002 12:23:52 -0700 GMT (02/06/02, 02:23 +0700 GMT), Mark Wieder wrote: MW It's based on having lost months' worth of emails from corrupted MW message bases in the past. I try to play it safe these days and email MW folders with their contents constantly changing don't seem like MW particularly safe repositories for things I care about. YMMV. It does (my mileage, that is). I haven't had a corrupted message base for a very long time. Have you run a surface check on your HD recently? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. It takes money to make money because you have to copy the design exactly. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60n under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Email references (was: Drafts)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Mark Wieder [MW] wrote: ... MW It's based on having lost months' worth of emails from corrupted MW message bases in the past. I try to play it safe these days and MW email folders with their contents constantly changing don't seem MW like particularly safe repositories for things I care about It's perplexing that you lose mail often enough that you've lost confidence in the mail base reliability short of a hardware failure. I've lost mail only on two occasions. Once when running securebat in its early days. The other was during a hard disk failure on my laptop. I've since had the drive replaced. I do daily backups of my mailbases just to be sure. It's done using a WinRAR command line based batch file that does a archive synchronisation and updating with my mailbase. I feel pretty secure with that arrangement and hardly ever delete mail unless it's spam, duplicates or obvious duds. You're using Win2k which makes it even that more perplexing that your mailbase reliability is so poor. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60n | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8+TXyV8nrYCsHF+IRAvtDAJ91KmINPuTgWkBMJeffi63urtkQ+QCgrCIs vxMnZngoxMBIJsp+9bt/Weo= =RTbI -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Email references (was: Drafts)
Thomas- Yup. Replaced the disk, too - it's all of about two months old. It's nothing I can specifically blame The Bat! for, since it's sporadic, but it's deadly when it happens and I've learned to play it safe. Saturday, June 1, 2002, 12:33:15 PM, you wrote: TF It does (my mileage, that is). I haven't had a corrupted message base TF for a very long time. Have you run a surface check on your HD TF recently? -Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.60h on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Email references (was: Drafts)
Hello Allie. At 5:00 PM on Saturday, June 01, 2002 you wrote the following about [Email references (was: Drafts)]: Allie I do daily backups of my mailbases just to be sure. Allie It's done using a WinRAR command line based batch Allie file that does a archive synchronisation and updating Allie with my mailbase How exactly do you do this, Allie? TIA -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.60n/W2K_SP2 ICQ 41116329 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Email references (was: Drafts)
Allie- Mind you, it doesn't happen often. I'm still sold on The Bat! and get my clients to switch to it whenever I can. But just having this happen once will get me wary. Twice and I start to think about alternate stragegies. To be sure, I don't back up my message bases often enough or fully compact everything often enough, and I'm working on getting better about that. But the last time I did a bat-style backup from the Tools menu I got warnings about two of my folders, saying there were possible errors (no further details, thank you), so I'm worried that another crash may be in the works. After those warnings, though, everything's been working fine. I'd think about moving up to a later version, but since I leave TB on all the time I'd rather wait until the resource leak has been verifiedly fixed. -Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.60h on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Email references (was: Drafts)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Jan Rifkinson [JR] wrote: ... Allie I do daily backups of my mailbases just to be sure. It's done Allie using a WinRAR command line based batch file that does a Allie archive synchronisation and updating with my mailbase JR How exactly do you do this, Allie? I use the system scheduler to run the .cmd file daily. The batch file is a text file containing the following: ==Start cmd file= @Echo off Echo Echo * !! Updating Backup Archive of TB-Mail!! * Echo * (\\alliem\l\tbbackup\tb-mail.rar)* Echo Path C:\Software\winrar winrar a -u -as \\Alliem\L\TBBackup\TB-Mail.rar C:\Mail exit ==/end cmd file==| I backup to my server which has a nice Seagate Cheetah as its main drive. C:\Mail is my working mail directory. This should be C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Mail for most. The path before that defines the name and location of the rar archive you're backing up to. If one isn't there, it will just create one and do a full backup on the first go. After that, it simply analyses the archive and update only the changed files. This saves time and overhead. Use the winrar command switches as shown. a - create archive u - update an existing archive as - synchronise an existing archive with a target source directory/file. The Echo part just suppresses all the stuff that will normally fill the console window when the cmd script is running and the announcement in the asterisk is put in it's place. Makes for a cleaner visual if I happen to be awake when it starts running. I do the same for the registry. I do it separately but you could do it all in one swoop (I guess I will shortly integrate the two. I don't know why I separated them in the first place). My TB! registry backup goes like this: @Echo Off Path=C:\Windows del \\Alliem\L\TBBackup\tbreg.reg regedit /e \\Alliem\L\TBBackup\tbreg.reg hkey_current_user\software\rit exit You could use WinRAR and the system scheduler to do unattended backups of many files and folders on your system. No need for 3rd party software. :-) - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60n | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8+USBV8nrYCsHF+IRApztAKDEh1hJ3XTeNrSXz+sWbtTX/Tc+ZQCgiBCJ NPEk2KWbKzscXqn1VhYSt5w= =6EnB -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
On Saturday, June 1, 2002, 11:34:04 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: If I send you a mid: link to some other folder in my system it's useless to you. no more so than knowing that said message was sent by said person on said day on said date at said time. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.60i on Windows XP version 5,1 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Email references (was: Drafts)
Thanks Allie. At 6:02 PM on Saturday, June 01, 2002 you wrote the following about [Email references (was: Drafts)]: Allie I do daily backups of my mailbases just to be sure. It's done Allie using a WinRAR command line based batch file that does a Allie archive synchronisation and updating with my mailbase JR How exactly do you do this, Allie? Allie I use the system scheduler to run the .cmd file daily. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.60n/W2K_SP2 ICQ 41116329 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Email references (was: Drafts)
Alllie, does this require you to manually create a backup file from within TB! on a regular basis? -- JN Allie C Martin wrote on Saturday, June 01, 2002: Path C:\Software\winrar winrar a -u -as \\Alliem\L\TBBackup\TB-Mail.rar C:\Mail exit Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Re[2]: Email references (was: Drafts)
Hi Joseph, On Sat, 1 Jun 2002 23:31:57 -0500, you wrote: Alllie, does this require you to manually create a backup file from within TB! on a regular basis? At a guess... no... Winrar appears to compress the Mail dir, and put it on the server... or should I say update the one on the server. I don't know the winrar command line options, so at a guess, it's only updating the archive on the server. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
Hello Thomas, Yes. I have such messages in a Common Folder. You can call this folder Drafts or Templates, as you wish. I click on the message I need, it opens, I hit Redirect Do macros work on those templates? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
Hello Mark, Maybe I misunderstood what you said earlier, but I thought you wanted to have a repository of template files to use in further emails. No, I'm just participating on this thread. I manage my repository of template files with Quick Templates. That way I don't have to go to any folder to look for my templates. No matter what folder I am at, I just open the Editor and select a template from the QT list. Back to terminology, to me a Draft is something I'm working on but can't finish at the moment - the phone rang, I've got a meeting coming up, etc. A Template would be something I've already completed and want to use as a starting point for future work. Agree. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
Hello Allie, Why not use Quick templates instead? That is exactly what I suggested to Adam in my [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] because it is what I do. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
Hello Miguel, On Fri, 31 May 2002 10:01:05 +0200 GMT (31/05/02, 15:01 +0700 GMT), Miguel A. Urech wrote: Yes. I have such messages in a Common Folder. You can call this folder Drafts or Templates, as you wish. I click on the message I need, it opens, I hit Redirect MAU Do macros work on those templates? No, they work only on TB's own templates. That's why I call them drafts not templates. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I was working for my mom until she decided to move. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60m under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Miguel A. Urech [MAU] wrote (in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): ... I click on the message I need, it opens, I hit Redirect MAU Do macros work on those templates? No they wouldn't unless you apply them as quick templates, which begs the question of why not store these messages templates as quick templates? - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60m | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE891LdV8nrYCsHF+IRAsJkAKC+pv52lAwJj3cRVXQtI8FY+EwuRwCfVX48 tTdv54w96YW61yZBcK3iCQ0= =1+ML -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
Hello Allie, I'm utterly in love with 'mid:' links. Yes, they are certainly useful. Virtual Access, the client that I used for many years before switching to TB, has this type of link also. And even more, you can easily set a link to Help contents (click on the link and Help opens at the linked page). This would be a very useful feature for TB... provided there was a decent help. ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Miguel A. Urech [MAU] wrote (in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): ... MAU That is exactly what I suggested to Adam in my MAU [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] because it is MAU what I do. Yes.. I did read the message but didn't make the connection. :-) I'm utterly in love with 'mid:' links. Reviewing your message was so easy when you provided the link. :-))) - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60m | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE891YWV8nrYCsHF+IRAqUMAKDmin16yYI7dr1chNuX9Wyi+r4hHACg4+Xy GJppfRc+WkblGZLBof+Cdj8= =ZwKb -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
mid: links [was Re: Drafts]
Hey Allie, My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60m) to write the following on Friday, May 31, 2002 at 6:53:09 AM. ACM -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ACM Miguel A. Urech [MAU] wrote ACM (in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): ACM ... MAU That is exactly what I suggested to Adam in my MAU [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] because it is MAU what I do. ACM Yes.. I did read the message but didn't make the connection. :-) ACM I'm utterly in love with 'mid:' links. Reviewing your message was ACM so easy when you provided the link. :-))) Now that is *very* cool. Is there an easy way to gen a mid: link? I know I can F9, and cut/past the contents of the 'In-Reply-To:' kludge, but that takes effort (not much, but I expect TB! will be able to use a QT or some such thing to easily gen one.) g Thanks for any suggestion. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] MUA = TB! v1.60k (www.RitLabs.com/The_Bat) Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) What are you doing?!? The message is over,GO AWAY! Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: mid: links [was Re: Drafts]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tim Musson [TM] wrote (in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): ... TM Now that is *very* cool. Is there an easy way to gen a mid: link? TM I know I can F9, and cut/past the contents of the 'In-Reply-To:' TM kludge, but that takes effort (not much, but I expect TB! will be able TM to use a QT or some such thing to easily gen one.) g I generally keep the message id field displayed in my message header bar. In this way, when I locate a message, I can easily copy the message id from there. For message replies, I use a regex macro since the macro to generate the message id, generates it surrounded be which isn't what you would want. I've decided to include mid links in my introductions since it's easy for the user to find the message being replied to, especially if they don't thread. Create a quick template and paste the following: mid:%SETPATTREGEXP=;(?im-s)^Message-ID:\s*(.*)$%- %REGEXPMATCH=%Headers You can then create mid links for replies, if you like. :-) Sorry to those who like short or no introductions but I think the mid links are more useful than the date and time the original message was written. :-) - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60m | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE892iHV8nrYCsHF+IRAtR3AKDyJpmj3xohA4DHrizj5L0WJpW1yACfdtnG 0RNCJHgdAUJR2uc/0eOXk8Q= =njVn -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: mid: links [was Re: Drafts]
Hello Allie, Sorry to those who like short or no introductions but I think the mid links are more useful than the date and time the original message was written. :-) I am one of those :) But introductions with mids are useful if there is no threading. In a list like this one, if threading by reference, mids in introductions are redundant. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: mid: links [was Re: Drafts]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Miguel A. Urech [MAU] wrote (in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): ... MAU I am one of those :) But introductions with mids are useful if MAU there is no threading. In a list like this one, if threading by MAU reference, mids in introductions are redundant. I thread by references but I use the ticker virtual folder to read only unread messages. Double-clicking the mid link takes me directly to the original message. I find it very convenient to use. I would normally double click the current message and then move up to the previous message in the thread. Also, at times, messages aren't threaded either because the reply is a change of topic and the user wishes to break the thread or the subscriber is using another client that doesn't provide reference headers (the latter being less common). Finally there are those who do not thread their messages. All in all, it's a useful addition to include. Redundant for some (there are those who find an introduction of any sort redundant g), but not for many. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60m | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8922RV8nrYCsHF+IRAsr6AKDcBmi4LkaocUdZUPJaywwdFmn7LACfdBmv EEsdwedkHNaNdpiycXPyeA8= =m7x3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: mid: links [was Re: Drafts]
Hello Allie, Redundant for some (there are those who find an introduction of any sort redundant g), but not for many The information _is_ redundant. The difference is that you find this redundancy useful and I don't, but it is redundant. BTW, writing to this list with a client different to TB should be both illegal and fattening. ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: mid: links [was Re: Drafts]
On Friday, May 31, 2002, Miguel A. Urech wrote... BTW, writing to this list with a client different to TB should be both illegal and fattening. ;-) And if the person is having serious issues with TB!, and needs to use a different client to send a mail for help? ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: mid: links [was Re: Drafts]
On Friday, May 31, 2002, Tim Musson wrote... Now that is *very* cool. Is there an easy way to gen a mid: link? Never knew it did that until this came up. I'm certainly impressed. :) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: mid: links [was Re: Drafts]
Hello Jonathan, And if the person is having serious issues with TB!, and needs to use a different client to send a mail for help? ;) Then he/she should be aware That after returning to normal TB use he/she will have to go on a diet while in jail. ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
Hello Allie, On Fri, 31 May 2002 05:39:25 -0500 GMT (31/05/02, 17:39 +0700 GMT), Allie C Martin wrote: ACM No they wouldn't unless you apply them as quick templates, which ACM begs the question of why not store these messages templates as ACM quick templates? Over here I use QT's only when I use them again in other templates. For example, I have a QT date, which insert the above format On Fri, ... into reply tempaltes. than that, the keybaord shortcut crtl-space toggles Chinese/English in C-Win instead of inserting a QT. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home. --Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital Equipment Corp., 1977 Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60m under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Drafts
Allie- mid: links? This is the first I've come across them...can you provide a pointer to more info? Or just explain here? Thanks. Friday, May 31, 2002, 3:53:09 AM, you wrote: ACM I'm utterly in love with 'mid:' links. Reviewing your message was ACM so easy when you provided the link. :-))) -Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.60h on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: mid: links [was Re: Drafts]
Gawd - I hate those jail food diets. It would be worth it to get TB back again, though. Friday, May 31, 2002, 7:26:24 AM, you wrote: MAU Then he/she should be aware That after returning to normal TB use MAU he/she will have to go on a diet while in jail. ;-) -Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.60h on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
On Friday, May 31, 2002, Mark Wieder wrote... mid: links? This is the first I've come across them...can you provide a pointer to more info? Or just explain here? Thanks. mid: (message-id). If you paste the message id of a message (on say a list), and the user double clicks it, it'll allow the user to reopen that message. For example: [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Double click that, and then tell it where you store the mail for this list (for example I have mine in a folder called TBUDL). It'll then locate, and load that email. You should notice it's your original one to this ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Mark On 31 May 2002 at 16:16:44 -0700 (which was 00:16 where I live) Mark Wieder wrote MAU If you are editing a message, how can you save it in your Draft MAU folder? AFAIK you can only either send it or put it in Outbox parked MAU (draft) or un-parked. 1. Save as Draft. 2. Click on the parked message in your Outbox. 3. Drag it to your Draft folder. 4. When asked if you want to move parked messages, click Yes. and then it looses it parked status. Now try to edit it :) - -- BBFN, ___ David | SecureBat!1.60l | E-mailaholics | _| Win 2K Server 5.0.2195 SP2 | International | | Be bold in what you STAND for and careful what you FALL for.| ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (MingW32) iD8DBQE898R1+Yrx5mUPRTQRApjeAKDE5KvqfYstJU135hu/a1YtDMC3BwCgjxJo NjbQHIkK3X5chO09F33e+iM= =fZi6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Elliott [DE] wrote (in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): ... DE I hope that i misunderstand you. Are you proposing to use OT as draft, I DE don't think so. OT? What's that? I only know that as off-topic. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60m | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE898brV8nrYCsHF+IRApkmAJsHBbzLRBQrcG24+EK6Xxbb+OMdxwCgkBUG guA3JbDrNR/9yLSoo4JhgMI= =e2Uo -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
Hello David, On Fri, 31 May 2002 19:44:04 +0100 GMT (01/06/02, 01:44 +0700 GMT), David Elliott wrote: 3. Drag it to your Draft folder. 4. When asked if you want to move parked messages, click Yes. DE and then it looses it parked status. No matter. It won't get sent, as it is not in the Outbox. DE Now try to edit it :) Hit Redirect. ;-) It's a draft, so it doesn't have a real recipient anyway. All my drafts are in the Keepers folder, which is a Common Folder, and have myself as the recipient. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Everybody repeat after me.We are all individuals. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60m under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
Hello David, On Fri, 31 May 2002 19:43:48 +0100 GMT (01/06/02, 01:43 +0700 GMT), David Elliott wrote: DE Once in this 'draft' folder I can not edit it I then have to put DE it back into the Outbox to do any editing. No. Just hit Redirect. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I don't have a drinking problem. I drink, I get drunk, I fall down, No problem. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60m under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Elliott [DE] wrote (in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): ... DE I hope that i misunderstand you. Are you proposing to use OT as DE draft, I don't think so. Upon reviewing the thread and your recent other messages, I see that you're speaking about the need for a drafts folder. I agree with that. I'd surely use it. I don't like the idea of storing drafts with messages to be sent. It requires too much user effort to monitor what's in the outbox. The thread had however digressed since someone else mentioned drafts in a different light when what was really meant was templates. I was wondering why create a folder with sample messages as templates. Why not just use quick templates? You can review that part to see what I mean. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60m | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE898uDV8nrYCsHF+IRAoRFAKC/zGkFIp5yzQq1TcuySizRqT/u8gCfR2uK SjVwhUrVGWJJ7zRBEX8QqTw= =uvzs -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Thomas On 31 May 2002 at 02:00:23 +0700 (which was 20:00 where I live) Thomas F wrote 3. Drag it to your Draft folder. 4. When asked if you want to move parked messages, click Yes. DE and then it looses it parked status. No matter. It won't get sent, as it is not in the Outbox. True, but when you moved a parked message from one folder to anothe it looses it's parked status. DE Now try to edit it :) Hit Redirect. ;-) and it will loose it's recipients. :( It's a draft, so it doesn't have a real recipient anyway. Sorry but mine do. e.g. I have received an email with a number of recipients I hit [reply to all] and start the message, I then find that I need more information I therefore want to put it to draft. You fill in the rest. :) All my drafts are in the Keepers folder, which is a Common Folder, and have myself as the recipient. I do feel sorry for you, as you have to remember who you need to send the email too. - -- Thank you for your time, ___ David | SecureBat!1.60l | E-mailaholics | _| Win 2K Server 5.0.2195 SP2 | International | | * Greetings pie lover here! * | ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr1-rc1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE8999M+Yrx5mUPRTQRAvIJAJwPpRagyu41dTpIDL/VIAuxZQNfBACgrnKT vywMvH3PpiODrFDECNlq8PQ= =lX/j -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
Hello David, Another one is a message parked in the Outbox, is a message that has been completed but you don't want to send yet. Right. And one of the reasons for not wanting to send it yet may be that the message is not complete :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greetings Allie On 31 May 2002 at 14:14:11 -0500 (which was 20:14 where I live) Allie C Martin might have written DE I hope that i misunderstand you. Are you proposing to use OT as DE draft, I don't think so. Upon reviewing the thread and your recent other messages, I see that you're speaking about the need for a drafts folder. I agree with that. I'd surely use it. I don't like the idea of storing drafts with messages to be sent. It requires too much user effort to monitor what's in the outbox. Good I have a convert (again). There are not many things that I feel strongly about in The Bat! that are missing but this is one. Each time this comes up I will be very vocal as I feel that it is my personal crusade to get the following Draft Timed delivery (However this not brought up very often) The thread had however digressed since someone else mentioned drafts in a different light when what was really meant was templates. I was wondering why create a folder with sample messages as templates. Why not just use quick templates? You can review that part to see what I mean. I do see what you mean. :) - -- Good Bye, ___ David | SecureBat!1.60l | E-mailaholics | _| Win 2K Server 5.0.2195 SP2 | International | | Really Get Stoned -- Drink Wet Cement! | ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr1-rc1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE89911+Yrx5mUPRTQRAtawAKC78ArAigzLD5jgXLvdZ/JNNje6fACcCJUJ Rkkr9QdLi7WGmK+MMCLKOOw= =8wsB -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Drafts
Jonathan- Interesting, but I'm not really sure what good this is. As long as I save *everything* in my email boxes, then when someone sends me a mid: link I can see what s/he is referring to. If I send a mid: link to someone else (assuming that I've done the proper regexp stuff to package it up) then they can look up the message too, IF they've also saved all their messages. Seems to me that a *much* more useful thing would be a http link that would point into the archives. That's what they're for, after all. I'd be much more likely to save more emails if I didn't run into these rare but deadly corrupted message base errors - until then I toss what I don't want and archive the more useful tips into separate files, but outside TB where a mid: link won't be of any use. Or am I missing some more obvious use of the mid: link? What makes it such a can't-live-without function? Are there other links that I don't know about? The only hyperlinks I've used are the email recipient and http:-style links. -Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.60h on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Drafts
Hello Allie, Friday, May 31, 2002, 8:09:25 AM, you wrote: ACM -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- ACM Hash: SHA1 ACM Miguel A. Urech [MAU] wrote ACM (in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): ACM ... I click on the message I need, it opens, I hit Redirect MAU Do macros work on those templates? ACM No they wouldn't unless you apply them as quick templates, which begs ACM the question of why not store these messages templates as quick ACM templates? Just learned. However, it doesn't start a message itself. So if you start a message, then click a quick template, you'll add a second template to the first. Is there a macro to delete all fields first? BTW, what's supposed to happen when you click mid:...? Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Drafts
Hello Thomas, Friday, May 31, 2002, 2:23:34 AM, you wrote: TF Hello Adam, TF On Thu, 30 May 2002 17:24:41 -0230 GMT (31/05/02, 02:54 +0700 GMT), TF Adam wrote: TF A template is what you use repetedly. A Could I create messages that can be Reused? And I just click them to A select, and they don't delete first copies? TF Yes. I have such messages in a Common Folder. You can call this TF folder Drafts or Templates, as you wish. How do you get messages in there? -- Best regards, Adammailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Adam [A] wrote: ... A Just learned. However, it doesn't start a message itself. So if you A start a message, then click a quick template, you'll add a second A template to the first. Is there a macro to delete all fields first? Yes. %Clear :-) A BTW, what's supposed to happen when you click mid:...? The best way to know is through a demonstration. Try hitting the one in my introduction and see. ;-) - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60n | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE89/q7V8nrYCsHF+IRAqsbAJ9lux0+DZ7QqvnUzhKPvDWOl3tdSQCgxFUG MJD36UIE9CTzCpIiwMpifS8= =jxiU -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: mid: links [was Re: Drafts]
Hello Adam, On Sat, 1 Jun 2002 01:34:39 +0200GMT (1-6-02, 1:34 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: A I tried clicking on that mid link. But nothing happened. Does A something happen for you? When I click on that mid: link I get the msg Allie was replying to. Since you don't get that message there are several possibilities: 1) You didn't get the message back from the list 2) You delete your own messages when you receive them 3) You delete all list-messages as soon as you've read them 4) You read this list in digest, so you won't get the individual msg-id's -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: mid: links [was Re: Drafts]
Hello Miguel, Friday, May 31, 2002, 9:50:41 AM, you wrote: MAU Hello Allie, Sorry to those who like short or no introductions but I think the mid links are more useful than the date and time the original message was written. :-) MAU I am one of those :) But introductions with mids are useful if there is MAU no threading. In a list like this one, if threading by reference, mids MAU in introductions are redundant. I tried clicking on that mid link. But nothing happened. Does something happen for you? -- Best regards, Adammailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
Hello Mark, On Fri, 31 May 2002 14:16:46 -0700 GMT (01/06/02, 04:16 +0700 GMT), Mark Wieder wrote: MW Seems to me that a *much* more useful thing would be a http link that MW would point into the archives. MW Or am I missing some more obvious use of the mid: link? What makes it MW such a can't-live-without function? If I have the message on my computer, it shows up in a fraction of a second. If I have to connect to the archives, I would probably not even bother. I am currently downloading TB 1.60n at a speed of 853 bps, if you get my meaning. Not every country has broadband access. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. One-celled organisms out score him in IQ tests. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60m under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
Hello David, On Fri, 31 May 2002 21:38:35 +0100 GMT (01/06/02, 03:38 +0700 GMT), David Elliott wrote: DE I have received an email with a number of recipients I hit [reply to all] DE and start the message, I then find that I need more information I therefore DE want to put it to draft. You fill in the rest. :) All my drafts are in the Keepers folder, which is a Common Folder, and have myself as the recipient. DE I do feel sorry for you, as you have to remember who you need to send the DE email too. No. I meant templates. It was getting late last night and I was getting confused. Bacardi Breezer Lemon helped me to that state, I guess. So, my _templates_ are in the Keepers folder, not my drafts, and they don't have recipients. That's why the Redirect trick works. The drafts are parked messages in the Outbox, which I find dangerous and I am with you in your crusade for a Drafts folder. I also second your timed-delivery wish. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. IF THERE IS NO GOD, WHO POPS UP THE NEXT KLEENEX? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60m under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Drafts
I click Message/Save as Draft, then I look for Drafts folder. I can't find the message there. Eventually, I find the message. I later click it, edit and send. But then the message is no longer there. The purpose of a draft is that you have a template drawn up to use repeatedly. But the only thing I have is a sent message. -- Best regards, Adam mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
On Thursday, May 30, 2002, Adam wrote... I click Message/Save as Draft, then I look for Drafts folder. I can't find the message there. Eventually, I find the message. As far as I can see... I have no drafts folder. When I save as draft, it gets put in the outbox, and flagged differently so it won't be sent. I later click it, edit and send. But then the message is no longer there. The purpose of a draft is that you have a template drawn up to use repeatedly. But the only thing I have is a sent message. Erm... I thought a draft was a 'first copy' of a document/email. When you're done, you send it, and away goes the draft, as you've 'promoted' the draft email to full copy. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
Hello Adam, On Thursday, May 30 2002 at 10:54 AM PDT, you wrote: The purpose of a draft is that you have a template drawn up to use repeatedly. No, that is the purpose of a Template. A draft is just that... a draft that once finished and sent is no longer valid, therefore gone. -- Nick Andriash Courtenay, B.C. Canada Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
Hello Adam, On Thu, 30 May 2002 16:24:58 -0230 GMT (31/05/02, 01:54 +0700 GMT), Adam wrote: A I click Message/Save as Draft, then I look for Drafts folder. I can't A find the message there. Eventually, I find the message. Lucky guy! I was looking for a Drafts folder the first time A I later click it, edit and send. But then the message is no longer A there. The purpose of a draft is that you have a template drawn up to A use repeatedly. No, a draft is a message you have drafted and will review later on, before you finally send it out. A template is what you use repetedly. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. A bartender is just a pharmacist with a limited inventory. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60m under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Drafts
Hello Thomas, Thursday, May 30, 2002, 4:35:13 PM, you wrote: TF Hello Adam, TF On Thu, 30 May 2002 16:24:58 -0230 GMT (31/05/02, 01:54 +0700 GMT), TF Adam wrote: A I later click it, edit and send. But then the message is no longer A there. The purpose of a draft is that you have a template drawn up to A use repeatedly. TF No, a draft is a message you have drafted and will review later on, TF before you finally send it out. I could have a different concept in my head. The Help file seems to suggest Save as the method to accomplish this. Leaving 'Save as Draft' unaccounted for. --Help- Saving a Message for Later Changes To save the current message, select Save from the File menu. Saved messages are placed in the Outbox and the saved message is shown with an hourglass symbol in the Status column. The hourglass symbol indicates that the message is not yet completed and thus cannot be sent from the outgoing queue. TF A template is what you use repetedly. Could I create messages that can be Reused? And I just click them to select, and they don't delete first copies? -- Best regards, Adammailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
On Thursday, May 30, 2002, Adam wrote... --Help- Saving a Message for Later Changes To save the current message, select Save from the File menu. Saved messages are placed in the Outbox and the saved message is shown with an hourglass symbol in the Status column. The hourglass symbol indicates that the message is not yet completed and thus cannot be sent from the outgoing queue. That is the definition of a draft. Saving a message for finishing later ;) Could I create messages that can be Reused? And I just click them to select, and they don't delete first copies? You could create a text file, and the use edit - paste from when you compose a new message that you want to contain that text. Or just create a template with it in. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
Hello Adam, Could I create messages that can be Reused? And I just click them to select, and they don't delete first copies? Yes, try Quick Templates. On the main menu select Options/Quick Templates and then click on the Help button. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Adam On 30 May 2002 at 16:24:58 -0230 (which was 19:54 where I live) Adam graced us with these comments I click Message/Save as Draft, then I look for Drafts folder. I can't find the message there. sarcasm You don't actually mean that there is a draft folder /sarcasm I have been asking for that for years (well at least two) A wish that there was a draft folder as I consider that messages that are draft are not the same as messages that messages that are parked in the 'outbox' - -- BBFN, ___ David | SecureBat!1.60l | E-mailaholics | _| Win 2K Server 5.0.2195 SP2 | International | | I'm sorry -- didn't I mention it was a Betazoid wedding?| ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (MingW32) iD8DBQE89o2++Yrx5mUPRTQRAuRxAKDvvyv75BNMUw+MzYavGMBR/kxZFgCfXuPF qgRWUuC7W6ScxM6URyGjRi0= =DM4T -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Drafts
Dear David, Thursday, May 30, 2002 at 10:38:09 PM you wrote: DE A wish that there was a draft folder as I consider that messages that are DE draft are not the same as messages that messages that are parked in the DE 'outbox' Why not? I am always confused by Outlook Express's draft folder. I have used the Outbox for a long time, when I haven't the time to answer a mail at once. -- Kind regards, Britt Malka |\/| | \__/ | \/\/ | | \\ // \ / \/ ... Oh please don't kill me, I wanna be in the sequel! ... www.malka.it - www.malka.dk - www.supermalka.dk ... Mailer: Ritlabs SecureBat! v1.60l (7Ba40-6E8D5) under Windows 2000 5.0 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Drafts
Why not create a common Templates folder and save working copies of the messages you want to use as templates in there? -Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.60h on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
Hello Dwight, so why not just make a folder called draft, and put your drafts there? If you are editing a message, how can you save it in your Draft folder? AFAIK you can only either send it or put it in Outbox parked (draft) or un-parked. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Drafts
Miguel- You can't send a parked file - inadvertently or no. Maybe I misunderstood what you said earlier, but I thought you wanted to have a repository of template files to use in further emails. If so, creating a Draft folder and saving them there would do the job, even if it takes a couple of steps to place them there. Back to terminology, to me a Draft is something I'm working on but can't finish at the moment - the phone rang, I've got a meeting coming up, etc. A Template would be something I've already completed and want to use as a starting point for future work. Thursday, May 30, 2002, 4:41:52 PM, you wrote: MAU Hello Mark, 1. Save as Draft. 2. Click on the parked message in your Outbox. 3. Drag it to your Draft folder. 4. When asked if you want to move parked messages, click Yes. MAU Of course. And then you can export the message as a Unix mailbox and MAU import it into Eudora and there is even less risk of inadvertently MAU sending a draft. MAU The issue is saving from the Editor in a folder different to Outbox. -Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.60h on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Wieder [MW] wrote (in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): ... MW Maybe I misunderstood what you said earlier, but I thought you MW wanted to have a repository of template files to use in further MW emails. If so, creating a Draft folder and saving them there would MW do the job, even if it takes a couple of steps to place them MW there. Why not use Quick templates instead? - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60m | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE89tdMV8nrYCsHF+IRAkE0AJ9WPfOdFziOuTohype0RPkyCjYNmACeKLji 3TXJiwkMJWJJxoXlghHDmVw= =QVFo -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Drafts
1. Save as Draft. 2. Click on the parked message in your Outbox. 3. Drag it to your Draft folder. 4. When asked if you want to move parked messages, click Yes. Thursday, May 30, 2002, 3:20:08 PM, you wrote: MAU If you are editing a message, how can you save it in your Draft MAU folder? AFAIK you can only either send it or put it in Outbox parked MAU (draft) or un-parked. -Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.60h on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
Hello David Elliott, On Thursday, May 30 2002 at 01:38 PM PDT, you wrote: A wish that there was a draft folder as I consider that messages that are draft are not the same as messages that messages that are parked in the 'outbox' That is one concept I wish RITLabs would adopt from Becky. I use the Drafts Folder all the time... find it extremely useful. -- Nick Andriash Courtenay, B.C. Canada Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
Hello Mark, 1. Save as Draft. 2. Click on the parked message in your Outbox. 3. Drag it to your Draft folder. 4. When asked if you want to move parked messages, click Yes. Of course. And then you can export the message as a Unix mailbox and import it into Eudora and there is even less risk of inadvertently sending a draft. The issue is saving from the Editor in a folder different to Outbox. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
Hello Adam, On Thu, 30 May 2002 17:24:41 -0230 GMT (31/05/02, 02:54 +0700 GMT), Adam wrote: TF A template is what you use repetedly. A Could I create messages that can be Reused? And I just click them to A select, and they don't delete first copies? Yes. I have such messages in a Common Folder. You can call this folder Drafts or Templates, as you wish. I click on the message I need, it opens, I hit Redirect. Now I can work on the headers, like choosing an account this should be sent from, and the From/To addresses. Don't forget to delete the Follow-up-to headers if the original was an incoming message. Then, I alter the body to my heart's content, and out the message goes. With the unaltered original still in the Common Folder. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Don't use no double negatives. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60m under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
