Re: F8 to selected address book
Hi Geoff, On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 19:30:07 + Geoff Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Think of the fun that some poor administrator would have registering (say) forty or fifty users on roaming profiles. With _real_ 'Roaming profiles' , means profiles stored on PDC and loaded from there when logging in, every user has to register only _once_. Registration is stored in windows registry 'HKCU' tree. That's too the reason why registring per user is nececcary and not only per machine: new user means new 'HKCU' and therefore a different set of settings to The Bat!, including registration. All this does not mean entering registration data 40 times in a bigger network is OK for an administrator. :-) If I'd need 5 or 10 licences one day I'd beg RIT to code a network installation routine for The Bat!, or at least somethign that allows me to edit several settings system wide for all user, might it be a 'HKLM' tree that overrides some settings in 'HKCU' or something similar, but it's for sure a PITA to only change the account base direcory for all users if for example the network drive all accounts are located on changed it's letter or path. Just my 2ยข -- Pit Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
F8 to selected address book
Hello all, Is there a way to change the address book the F8 key activates? For some reason I ended up with a Dutch Persoonlijk adresboek and a Personal address book. I daren't delete one, for fear of loosing the F8 function. -- Regards, Ochrid _ The Bat! v1.62b7 op Windows XP _ Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: F8 to selected address book
Hello Ochrid, Tuesday, December 10, 2002, 5:31:20 AM, you wrote: O Hello all, O Is there a way to change the address book the F8 key activates? View Edit Shortcuts (Alt+F12) I think should do it. I hope it works :) -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: F8 to selected address book
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Ochrid, @10-Dec-2002, 11:31 +0100 (10:31 UK time) Ochrid [O] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: O Is there a way to change the address book the F8 key activates? See Account Properties | General | Default address book. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1rc1-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE99cV9OeQkq5KdzaARAj96AJ45zgG120jnGs0nR7TSoxz1JUUWzwCfX6f3 tKO9utTCGFCGb2HhdEd8KUE= =FPvI -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: F8 to selected address book
Hello Marck, Tuesday, December 10, 2002, 11:44:11 AM, you wrote: O Is there a way to change the address book the F8 key activates? MDP See Account Properties | General | Default address book. Helas: the setting there does not stick. -- Regards, Ochrid _ The Bat! v1.61 op Windows XP _ Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: F8 to selected address book
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Ochrid, @10-Dec-2002, 12:10 +0100 (11:10 UK time) Ochrid [O] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: O Is there a way to change the address book the F8 key activates? MDP See Account Properties | General | Default address book. O Helas: the setting there does not stick. Really? How odd - it should! Anyone else seeing this? How about changing the setting then deleting the book that keeps getting in the way? - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1rc1-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE99c4IOeQkq5KdzaARAiVGAKCJzNmkbcDF4hKS6X2aB8qz+8FT6wCffuHm kCDyrvjspoKLWDG08DWaFvo= =GsPV -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: F8 to selected address book
Hello Marck, O Is there a way to change the address book the F8 key activates? MDP See Account Properties | General | Default address book. O Helas: the setting there does not stick. Really? How odd - it should! Anyone else seeing this? It sticks until you exit TB. When you start again, Account Properties | General | Default address book still shows the setting I have selected but F8 doesn't open it. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: F8 to selected address book
Hi Marck, On Tuesday, December 10, 2002 at 11:20:39 [GMT +], you wrote: MDP See Account Properties | General | Default address book. O Helas: the setting there does not stick. MDP Really? How odd - it should! Anyone else seeing this? Yes, me! I kept reporting this as a bug, but as it seemed to be a rare problem it couldn't be located and I finally gave up on it. I have several address books and I'd like to associate them with different accounts, but it won't work. Really disappointing. There is also a bug report for this: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view_bug_advanced_page.php?f_id=430 and one much earlier from Marek Mikus: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view_bug_advanced_page.php?f_id=203 I should add that there were some versions (unfortunately this was too long ago so I don't remember which ones) where this feature actually worked. But some change in a subsequent version messed it up. :-( MDP How about changing the setting then deleting the book that keeps MDP getting in the way? In my case, the problem is the default address book. Any idea how to delete this one? ;-) BTW, I tried everything, different accounts, new accounts, new ABs, fresh install and several combinations of these. It didn't help. -- Regards, Lars The Bat! 1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: F8 to selected address book
On Tuesday, December 10, 2002, 5:44 AM, you wrote: O Is there a way to change the address book the F8 key activates? MDP See Account Properties | General | Default address book. it didn't change for me. I WANT the default addressbook to be PERSONAL ADDRESSBOOK. Yet when I hit F8 it comes up with my wife's addressbook open. This drives me crazy, because when I start adding addresses to a message, it always picks HER addressbook entries first. we do have separate WinXP logins, but both use TB:) -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: F8 to selected address book
On Tuesday, December 10, 2002, 6:20 AM, you wrote: O Helas: the setting there does not stick. MDP Really? How odd - it should! Anyone else seeing this? How about MDP changing the setting then deleting the book that keeps getting in MDP the way? not a good option, my wife wouldn't like that:) -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: F8 to selected address book
On Tuesday, December 10, 2002, 5:38 AM, you wrote: O Is there a way to change the address book the F8 key activates? VBG View Edit Shortcuts (Alt+F12) I think should do it. I VBG hope it works :) addressbook is under tools, I don't see a tools section here. -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: F8 to selected address book
Hello Marck, Tuesday, December 10, 2002, 12:20:39 PM, you wrote: MDP How about changing the setting then deleting the book that MDP keeps getting in the way? That works, obviously, but suppose I wanted to keep it? -- Regards, Ochrid _ The Bat! v1.61 op Windows XP _ Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: F8 to selected address book
On 10 December 2002, 13:06, Paul Cartwright wrote: it didn't change for me. I WANT the default addressbook to be PERSONAL ADDRESSBOOK. Yet when I hit F8 it comes up with my wife's addressbook open. This drives me crazy, because when I start adding addresses to a message, it always picks HER addressbook entries first. we do have separate WinXP logins, but both use TB:) ~~~ I don't have such problems -- but we use roaming profiles and have separate base mail directories to let my three users access their own mail when logged onto any machine that has TB while not having their mail or ABs confused with another user's. Drive P: is mapped to personal file space (on the server, but you can use a local share). TB's default mail directory is set to P:\Mail. So, my mail and address books reside in \\server\users\my\mail and my wife's reside in \\server\users\her\mail. HTH, -- Geoff Lane Cornwall, UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Psychoceramics ... the study of crackpots. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: F8 to selected address book
On Tuesday, December 10, 2002, 9:18 AM, you wrote: GL I don't have such problems -- but we use roaming profiles and have GL separate base mail directories to let my three users access their own GL mail when logged onto any machine that has TB while not having their GL mail or ABs confused with another user's. GL Drive P: is mapped to personal file space (on the server, but you can GL use a local share). TB's default mail directory is set to P:\Mail. So, GL my mail and address books reside in \\server\users\my\mail and my GL wife's reside in \\server\users\her\mail. with separate logins, basically our mail folders are just like yours. Each account has its own folder under C:\Program Files\TB\Mail -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: F8 to selected address book
Hallo Ochrid, On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 14:35:05 +0100GMT (10-12-02, 14:35 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: MDP How about changing the setting then deleting the book that MDP keeps getting in the way? O That works, obviously, but suppose I wanted to keep it? Why two address books? What can you achieve with multiple AB's what you can't achieve with multiple AB-groups? So you can simply copy all addresses from one to another AB. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: F8 to selected address book
On Tuesday, December 10, 2002, 9:49 AM, you wrote: O That works, obviously, but suppose I wanted to keep it? RO Why two address books? What can you achieve with multiple AB's what RO you can't achieve with multiple AB-groups? So you can simply copy all RO addresses from one to another AB. my wife has addresses contacts that I don't, and she likes hers sorted and appearing a certain way, so we have separate lists. I think they are actually in the same addressbook, but different folders. Mine says personal addressbook, hers says MY_ADDRESSES. hers is listed first, then the personal, then bigfoot...etc. -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: F8 to selected address book
On 10 December 2002, 14:49, Roelof Otten wrote: Why two address books? What can you achieve with multiple AB's what you can't achieve with multiple AB-groups? So you can simply copy all addresses from one to another AB. ~~~ You can't get a proper grouping hierarchy without multiple AB's. For example, I have an AB called Clients, another called Suppliers, etc. Within each AB reside groups, one per client or supplier organisation; withint each group are the individual contacts. Unless, that is, it is now possible to nest groups? -- Geoff Lane Cornwall, UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Tagline theft ... the sincerest form of flattery Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: F8 to selected address book
On 10 December 2002, 14:43, Paul Cartwright wrote: with separate logins, basically our mail folders are just like yours. Each account has its own folder under C:\Program Files\TB\Mail ~~~ Not quite. In your case, there is only one top-level message directory that contains all the AB's. In mine, the top-level message directory changes with the user logon because my drive P: points to the user's personal filespace. This means that TB can only see the AB's for the currently logged on user. To replicate my method, you'd need to create a separate folder for each user into which their account would be created. While with XP you should be able to map drives to directories within a share, I'll consider NT4, where that isn't allowed. You would need to create one share for each user. Say, you created C:\Mail\User_A, which you shared as User_A; and C:\Mail\User_B, which you shared as User_B. Now, for each user map the same drive letter to their own share. So: For A, map P: to \\machinename\User_A For B, map P: to \\machinename\User_B Now configure TB to use P:\ as the default mail store. This keeps the address book and account files for each user entirely separate from all other users. HTH, -- Geoff Lane Cornwall, UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Major coffee failure - operator halted. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: F8 to selected address book
On Tuesday, December 10, 2002, 10:17 AM, you wrote: GL Not quite. GL To replicate my method, you'd need to create a separate folder for GL each user into which their account would be created. While with XP you GL should be able to map drives to directories within a share, I'll GL consider NT4, where that isn't allowed. You would need to create one GL share for each user. Say, you created C:\Mail\User_A, which you shared GL as User_A; and C:\Mail\User_B, which you shared as User_B. Now, for GL each user map the same drive letter to their own share. So: For A, map GL P: to \\machinename\User_A For B, map P: to \\machinename\User_B Now GL configure TB to use P:\ as the default mail store. This keeps the GL address book and account files for each user entirely separate from GL all other users. well, under OPTIONS-PREFERENCES-SYSTEM I can change the default directories for mail. If I change that, won't it also create a new addressbook in that folder for me? -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: F8 to selected address book
Hallo Geoff, On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 15:06:52 +GMT (10-12-02, 16:06 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: GL Unless, that is, it is now possible to nest groups? No, you still can't nest them, but you can assign people to multiple groups, thus achieving the same structure as nesting. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: F8 to selected address book
On Tuesday, December 10, 2002, 10:17 AM, you wrote: GL To replicate my method, you'd need to create a separate folder for GL each user into which their account would be created. While with XP you GL should be able to map drives to directories within a share, I'll GL consider NT4, where that isn't allowed. You would need to create one GL share for each user. Say, you created C:\Mail\User_A, which you shared GL as User_A; and C:\Mail\User_B, which you shared as User_B. Now, for GL each user map the same drive letter to their own share. So: For A, map GL P: to \\machinename\User_A For B, map P: to \\machinename\User_B Now GL configure TB to use P:\ as the default mail store. This keeps the GL address book and account files for each user entirely separate from GL all other users. well, as I just found out, you can't do that on XP ( NTFS), without affecting all users. I tried to change the mail folder ( for me only) and when I clicked OK, it paused ( disk madly churning) and moved my entire mail folder structure, including my wifes account, to the new folder, and erased the old folder. I would consider this a bug. Since there are multiple users, they should each be able to map the folders where their mail resides. -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: F8 to selected address book
Hello Geoff, On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 16:25:16 + GMT (10/12/02, 23:25 +0700 GMT), Geoff Lane wrote: Another snag was that I had to enter the registration keys for TB! on each machine for each user (that is, *nine* times) -- but I'd have had to do that anyway (if licenses are per user, why can't TB record the registration info in your profile?) If you still have the original registration confirmation message, you only need to open it and go to Help / Enter Registration Code. The message is coded so that your registration code will now already be entered, you only need to enter the password. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. If God dropped acid, would he see people? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62 Christmas Edition under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: F8 to selected address book
Hello Miguel! On Tuesday, December 10, 2002 at 12:59:18 PM you wrote: It sticks until you exit TB. When you start again, Account Properties | General | Default address book still shows the setting I have selected but F8 doesn't open it. Just changed it from default to one of my ABs called Privat. I then tried F8, which opened Leipzig for me. So, didn't work at all. -- Dierk Haasis The Bat 1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 2600Service Pack 1 Statistics are like bikinis: What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: F8 to selected address book
On Tuesday, December 10, 2002, 11:25 AM, you wrote: GL FWIW, I had a similar issue when I upgraded my network and added a new GL computer. The way that I got around this was to: GL - uninstall TB from every machine on the network GL - manually copy the AB's and message stores for each user to the GL correct folders GL - set up the user profiles and ensure that each user had their mail in GL P:\Mail GL - Reinstall TB on each machine, configuring it with default mail GL directory of P:\Mail GL Hopefully, you can set up things for yourself, change the mail folder, GL then copy your wife's message stores and AB's to her mail folder. Of GL course, you would also need to delete your wife's data from yours. GL It took a while to set up, but was (IMO) well worth the effort. well, I think I'll just leave it like it is. It's working and I HATE to screw up something that works! the addressbook is a very minor issue right now, I'd really rather leave her setup alone. maybe when V2 comes out I will ;) RSN 9 real soon now:) -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: F8 to selected address book
On 10 December 2002, 17:36, Thomas Fernandez wrote: If you still have the original registration confirmation message, you only need to open it and go to Help / Enter Registration Code. The message is coded so that your registration code will now already be entered, you only need to enter the password. ~~~ Hi Thomas, and thanks. FWIW, I knew about that -- but my point was that I shouldn't have to register TB that many times. I can accept entering the registration info once per machine or once per user, but not once per user per machine. Think of the fun that some poor administrator would have registering (say) forty or fifty users on roaming profiles. Let me see, forty users and forty machines means the poor guy has to enter the registration info 1,600 times; fifty users and its 2,500 times. In the same vein, a client wants to replace Lotus Notes - but this issue prevents me from recommending a mixed solution that includes TB! Is there site licensing that avoids this problem? TIA, -- Geoff Lane Cornwall, UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Word Happens Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: F8 to selected address book
Hello Geoff, On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 19:30:07 + GMT (11/12/02, 02:30 +0700 GMT), Geoff Lane wrote: In the same vein, a client wants to replace Lotus Notes - but this issue prevents me from recommending a mixed solution that includes TB! Is there site licensing that avoids this problem? I don't know, but you have a point. Check with Ritlabs, and let us know for the record. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. One should never generalize. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62 Christmas Edition under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
