Re[2]: Filter string question (v2.12)
MM The regex is correct, tested, confirmed, works like most MM skilled... Oh. :( Now I see that the regex is NOT working. I did do tests and it worked then BUT real life (non-test) messages are getting thru. Below I have copied the filter (with a couple of security edits) as TB! sees it... Anyone? Thx RG BeginFilter Name: Bogus email to PP sale address Active: 1 Source: \\accountname\Inbox Target: \\accountname\Inbox CopyFolder: none MainSet: (?!Good Real Name) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actions: fkoDetectRcpt AddGroups: DelGroups: ForwardTemplate: ConfirmTemplate: ReplyTemplate: FwdAddr: RedirectAddr: NewAddr: NewTemplate: ExtCmd: ExtFile: ExtractDir: ColourGroup: default AddAddrItems: DelAddrItems: HotKey: 0 IsOfColour: default SizeBigger: 0 SizeSmaller: 0 AgeOlder: 0 AgeNewer: 0 InAddrPos: 0 OutAddrPos: 0 InAddrGroups: NoAddrGroups: KillFile: KillMethod: 4 SaveTemplate: SndFile: SysSound: 0 SoundTime: 0:00-0:00 AllowTime: 0:00-0:00 EndFilter -- Beautiful Butterfly Displays http://FramedButterflyArt.com Random tagline: Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines. Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter string question (v2.12)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Wed, 1 Feb 2006, @ @ at 16:27:55 -0600, when rich gregory wrote: MM The regex is correct, tested, confirmed, works like most MM skilled... Oh. :( Now I see that the regex is NOT working. I did do tests and it worked then BUT real life (non-test) messages are getting thru. I'm testing all my filters in real life. What the benefit of them otherwise? Below I have copied the filter (with a couple of security edits) as TB! sees it... Anyone? It works like most skilled...but, you should apply it correctly. In the filter you have sent, under the Rule tab you have checked Recipient instead Entire header. It's like entering wrong doors expecting the right effect. (-: Sensations differ. - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://blueness.port5.com/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 519 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.6, and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector Linuxes via Wine... ~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given in my From|Reply To field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEVAwUBQ+FS2LSpHvHEUtv8AQPwZgf+JuVSmomRjxziTnCdcHzpNJULgbgq4USs FXtWN00IQgqDRm+3GOKPCcYpXQSeqfJmpXurC1q3tVjk4c0YhNGghss/yKQEGyNb CPbauVOI41/hVHoEJ25T1jEuBJuwV+Uny+n9nPyWuXqUXRhhhXg/eKw+D5ZdIzeE 4ZIZx5iL1eTNL76T1OMugjc5KkwyenpRWGl2RSEdMETInFjifUkBKV7EX1NKBg7q Nv/zzga+m20lKFjKStEdnH7v986cmx40RGJ71fAelIlsOt/+x3pG0EE/V0shRKLw NwTQa5snsVHlWm42YNk2nNpYWjNRJmED9QCwbqVRnzI+cwzpiklTuw== =96dI -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter string question (v2.12)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 26 Jan 2006, @ @ at 23:53:13 -0500, when rich gregory wrote: MM The regex is correct, tested, confirmed, works like most skilled MM mistress, knowing many charming and even explosive and slapstick tricks, MM and yet well and wisely educated so you can even talk with her something MM sensible in pauses. I see you appreciate good regex! Yes indeed I do, I see you have a good eye. I do value and appreciate a good regex able to replace many not so good ones, and never was sorry dedicating good time to something like that. After all, would I ever make just one filter for all the spam if I'd have doing otherwise? - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://blueness.port5.com/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 515 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.6, and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector Linuxes via Wine... ~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given in my From|Reply To field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEVAwUBQ90/DLSpHvHEUtv8AQOucggAnFxLIm/nAiHwVqsZVPZLLU2gE4+/uW37 XO4NQ4R89VLxrVK43VAPjknz5s1UNB5/A8++2NbNxrgNJ6h8b2GG/8w5dIod13YH oLmMvZ1+8saUym++25TcESgIpBEuaoMg3UXlSEkQwH5L8+5q8muE1DqhSh3FqZ7J Jpyai5nn4fE1lVLf0eTBNecbv4hb1r9jgn35UnVhpXxWeIcLA6gCcISxyH4cin5X vDXQxkbw7BCc73h6INiFpI/yvLeoUrHNGLIHHE2ktNRV8dbUEbulBh6+jkcb7ixq Hl+hGCBWMyw1Zlqe8rVhXmRUH3jo+15QtYAMgTCYaf8t8Qwb3Dc98A== =lVUH -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filter string question (v2.12)
How do I to tell the selective download filters that any email 1) containing [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the header 2) AND MISSING the correct real name is to be deleted. MM This regular expression... MM (?!correct_real_name) [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- 8 --- snip, snip --- [edited for brevity] MM The regex is correct, tested, confirmed, works like most skilled MM mistress, knowing many charming and even explosive and slapstick tricks, MM and yet well and wisely educated so you can even talk with her something MM sensible in pauses. I see you appreciate good regex! I have installed the filter and am off to test it! Thank you much RG -- Beautiful Butterfly Displays http://FramedButterflyArt.com Random tagline: First things first, but not necessarily in that order. Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Filter string question (v2.12)
How do I to tell the selective download filters that any email 1) containing [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the header 2) AND MISSING the correct real name is to be deleted. MM This regular expression... MM (?!correct_real_name) [EMAIL PROTECTED] RG --- 8 --- snip, snip --- [edited for brevity] RG I have installed the filter and am off to test it! Bad news! The filter failed to take any action. I sent 3 mssgs to myself. All at the same email address but with 3 variations on the real name part of the address. ONE was correct and was suppoed to get thru, the other 2 were a wrong name and a blank where the real name would be. All 3 got thru. :( -- Beautiful Butterfly Displays http://FramedButterflyArt.com Random tagline: Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups. Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Filter string question (v2.12)
How do I to tell the selective download filters that any email 1) containing [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the header 2) AND MISSING the correct real name is to be deleted. MM This regular expression... MM (?!correct_real_name) MM [EMAIL PROTECTED] RG --- 8 --- snip, snip --- [edited for brevity] RG Bad news! The filter failed to take any action. RG I sent 3 mssgs to myself. All at the same email address but with 3 RG variations on the real name part of the address. ONE was correct and RG --- 8 --- snip, snip --- [edited for brevity] OK -- It DOES WORK! Oooppps. I forgot to tell the filter to look at entire header. it was set to look ONLY at originator. She purrs like a kitten now! Thanks! You should do know your regex! -- Beautiful Butterfly Displays http://FramedButterflyArt.com Random tagline: Succeed in spite of management. Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter string question (v2.12)
Hallo rich, On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:30:18 -0500GMT (25-1-2006, 3:30 +0100, where I live), you wrote: RG I would think that if I need 2 filters I would take *ALL* mail RG addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and FIRST send it to the spam RG bucket THEN filter the spam folder for correct_name RG [EMAIL PROTECTED] and return these to the pending orders RG folder. You need to supply some additional info. This account of yours, is that an account that receives mail from several aliases or only for this specific address? In the latter case you only have to check whether the recipients do not contain myname myaddress in order to mark the message as junk. When the account receives mail for multiple addresses, then you've got to find a way to identify messages addressed to the specific address and combine that with the same condition as before. Note that mail doesn't need to have your address in the To or BCC header to be sent to you. -- Groetjes, Roelof It is easier to catch flies with honey than with vinegar. The Bat! 3.65.04 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgptMagIUuedJ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter string question (v2.12)
Hello rich gregory everyone else, on 25-Jan-2006 at 03:51 you (rich gregory) wrote: DAC you lost me there. filter the mail you want to keep. put it whereever DAC you want it. then all that's left is spam in the inbox, Well, I'd prefer not to leave spam in the inbox. Of course not. Lets take it step by step. 1. You receive new mail - all mail first goes to the inbox, and it is processed by all incoming filters. Filters are executed from top to bottom, as they are shown in the sorting office. 2. Your first filter is good mail (you could also call it a whitelist). It checks if the TO field really contains Your Name [EMAIL PROTECTED] - if so, it moves the message to the folder PayPal, or whatever... 3. The next filter is the spam filter (blacklist). It checks if the TO field does NOT contain the good string, and if doesn't, the message is moved to the Junk folder. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) History is a thin garment, easily punctured by a knifeblade called now. -- Graham Swift Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter string question (v2.12)
On Tuesday, January 24, 2006, 8:51:37 PM, rich gregory wrote: Well, I'd prefer not to leave spam in the inbox. I assumed you were going to delete it. DAC maybe b can be to flag the message or some such, and just leave DAC it in the inbox, I'd prefer to have the filter do more work than just flag an e-mail... If it can flag an e-mail it can move an e-mail, no? sure. but if you wanted to leave it in the inbox that would be a choice. I'm afraid I can't answer your specific procedure question because it has been so long since I switched to version 3 -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.65.04 on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filter string question (v2.12)
DAC On Tuesday, January 24, 2006, 8:51:37 PM, rich gregory wrote: Well, I'd prefer not to leave spam in the inbox. DAC I assumed you were going to delete it. After I sent that mssg I wanted to take it back. I thought my statement above might come off as rude. Sorry. I have some other replies to address as well today and can more completely work through this there so we'll pick this up there, then! Thank you. Rich -- Beautiful Butterfly Displays http://FramedButterflyArt.com Random tagline: In just two days, tomorrow will be yesterday today is the tomorrow you dreamed about yesterday. Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filter string question (v2.12)
RG I would think that if I need 2 filters I would take *ALL* mail RG addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and FIRST send it to the spam RG bucket THEN filter the spam folder for correct_name RG [EMAIL PROTECTED] and return these to the pending orders RG folder. RO This account of yours, is that an account that receives mail from RO several aliases or only for this specific address? RO In the latter case you only have to check whether the recipients do RO not contain myname myaddress in order to mark the message as junk. I get hundreds of bogus aliases daily that are all spam. Occasionally the alias is correct, then it is an order. Here is the example: Good: Correct_name [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bad : Bogus random name or blank [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good needs to go to stay in the INBOX (for further manual processing) Bad need to go to the spam bucket (or better yet, deleted) RO When the account receives mail for multiple addresses, then you've got RO to find a way to identify messages addressed to the specific address RO and combine that with the same condition as before. (Feeling thick) I do not know what you mean or how to implement this. :( RO Note that mail doesn't need to have your address in the To or BCC RO header to be sent to you. Good point. And note the correctly addressed emails NEVER have the address in any field other than TO:. TO EVERYBODY: As I wrote the above it became clear to me that the way to do this is a single Selective Download filter that DELETES the bogus mssgs. This way the good ones end up culled from the bad and already in the inbox. NOW -- I just need to know how to tell the selective download filters that any email with [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the header BUT ALSO with Correct_name NOT in the header is to be deleted. (One step closer!) Thanks all again. Rich -- Beautiful Butterfly Displays http://FramedButterflyArt.com Random tagline: Ignorance of Truth is the cause of all Misery. - Buddah Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[2]: Filter string question (v2.12)
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 16:12:49 +0100, rich gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I get hundreds of bogus aliases daily that are all spam. Occasionally the alias is correct, then it is an order. Here is the example: Good: Correct_name [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bad : Bogus random name or blank [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thats not an alias. Those are just realnames. :-) Aliases are different mail addresses within a domain that lead to one and the same mail account. You could also call them redirections. For example, you could have [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] both end in the same mail account which has the real address [EMAIL PROTECTED]. You're collecting three mail addresses in one mail account that way but can still keep them apart according to the TO address. -- Greetings/Grüsse Alexander. Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter string question (v2.12)
On Wednesday, January 25, 2006, 8:53:42 AM, rich gregory wrote: I thought my statement above might come off as rude. Sorry. no offense taken. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.65.04 on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Filter string question (v2.12)
Below, corrected: [TO A SINGLE EMAIL ADDRESS] I get hundreds of bogus [EMAILS] daily that are all spam. Occasionally [TO THE SAME EMAIL ADDRESS I GET EMAILS THAT ARE NOT SPAM]. Here is the example: Good: Correct name [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bad : Bogus name [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bad : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ASK Thats not an alias. Those are just realnames. Aliases are... --- 8 --- snip, snip --- OK So the real names are the only differentiator between these true and false emails. As I said earlier: It has became clear to me that the way to do this is a single Selective Download filter that DELETES the bogus mssgs. This way the good ones end up culled from the bad and already in the inbox. NOW I just need to know : How do I to tell the selective download filters that any email 1) containing [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the header 2) AND MISSING the correct real name is to be deleted. -- Beautiful Butterfly Displays http://FramedButterflyArt.com Random tagline: The best things in life aren't things. - Art Buchwald Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter string question (v2.12)
Hello rich gregory everyone else, on 25-Jan-2006 at 22:49 you (rich gregory) wrote: NOW I just need to know : How do I to tell the selective download filters that any email 1) containing [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the header 2) AND MISSING the correct real name is to be deleted. I'm very sorry that I can't help you with that, I'm using v3 of TB which has the new filtering system. Some other user experienced with selective download filters in v2 may be able to help you - Mica? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: Green Sun Prismatic Sky (17:48) by Ishvara from the 2005 album 'Magik Square of the Sun' Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter string question (v2.12)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Wed, 25 Jan 2006, @ @ at 16:49:37 -0500, when rich gregory wrote: NOW I just need to know : How do I to tell the selective download filters that any email 1) containing [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the header 2) AND MISSING the correct real name is to be deleted. This regular expression... (?!correct_real_name) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...should detect the said address that is not preceded by correct_real_name, but check it, and/or consult others, more experienced with regex. I am not sure whether the space before the chevron at the beginning of the address should be left just as it is or it would have to be denoted by some other symbol. If this regex above is fully correct, then you would just have to check Entire header under Rule tab, then Match any string as a regular expression for Detection method, and Kill for Action, under Advanced tab. - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://blueness.port5.com/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 511 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.6, and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector Linuxes via Wine... ~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given in my From|Reply To field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEVAwUBQ9gCbbSpHvHEUtv8AQPeLAf9HLGnw5FrTnuMWAIifCdE0h+rS9k6wNMY BzVgwkxnu7lurpexmSnhXuyqI8htaDYgbyXXIiB3viKBCN2WEDiEiDVSOi9IQkBE 0n++e/hknaPMyOULo4AUfpZCIcDwuB5FjE5q3kOZlYcvyRvcFosgfMNC6QKXcK0H IUhFwxTy1Y2ZllbYRMpIaqFPUfyc8KwWQxqKNxAF7J15mMD5MNgvS/L6Fiazuz2o 5z4NVPfzstYzqEDOMo6fGRJt9IDqIdxUCyZtQAywiW47I16zYjQSPmq2DfPBE+W1 pf8MeDRDUlxQ4vNW34k8mFTojL3B+MmdishgPSJY89AaXMU6M3pq9w== =SG7j -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filter string question (v2.12)
NOW I just need to know : How do I to tell the selective download filters that any email 1) containing [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the header 2) AND MISSING the correct real name is to be deleted. MM This regular expression... MM (?!correct_real_name) [EMAIL PROTECTED] MM .should detect the said address that is not preceded by MM correct_real_name, but check it, and/or consult others, more MM experienced with regex. MM I am not sure whether the space before the chevron at the beginning of MM the address should be left just as it is or it would have to be denoted MM by some other symbol. MM If this regex above is fully correct, then you would just have to check MM Entire header under Rule tab, then Match any string as a regular MM expression for Detection method, and Kill for Action, under MM Advanced tab. Assuming your regex expression is correct I still do not know what to do with it! Where does it go and under advanced should I check some box other than what is checked by default? ALSO the Correct Real Name has spaces in it. Does this matter? -- Beautiful Butterfly Displays http://FramedButterflyArt.com Random tagline: Never tell people how to do things. Tell them what to do and they will surprise you with their ingenuity. - George S. Patton Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter string question (v2.12)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Wed, 25 Jan 2006, @ @ at 19:44:39 -0500, when rich gregory wrote: NOW I just need to know : How do I to tell the selective download filters that any email 1) containing [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the header 2) AND MISSING the correct real name is to be deleted. MM This regular expression... MM (?!correct_real_name) MM [EMAIL PROTECTED] MM .should detect the said address that is not preceded by MM correct_real_name, but check it, and/or consult others, more MM experienced with regex. MM I am not sure whether the space before the chevron at the beginning of MM the address should be left just as it is or it would have to be denoted MM by some other symbol. MM If this regex above is fully correct, then you would just have to check MM Entire header under Rule tab, then Match any string as a regular MM expression for Detection method, and Kill for Action, under MM Advanced tab. Assuming your regex expression is correct I still do not know what to do with it! Where does it go and under advanced should I check some box other than what is checked by default? It goes in Account | Sorting Office/Filters | Selective Download, then you make a new rule and under tab Rule in Signal strings field you type in the said regex, resolutely and precisely. As to the Advanced tab, for Action you check Kill, and for Detection method you check Match any string as a regular expression. The regex is correct, tested, confirmed, works like most skilled mistress, knowing many charming and even explosive and slapstick tricks, and yet well and wisely educated so you can even talk with her something sensible in pauses. ALSO the Correct Real Name has spaces in it. Does this matter? Nope. It matters not. It accepts the necessary distance between two or more words wishing to be on a distance. - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://blueness.port5.com/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 512 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.6, and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector Linuxes via Wine... ~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given in my From|Reply To field(s). ~~~ If you have to do something boring, do it your way. -- Hammertroll -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEVAwUBQ9gsh7SpHvHEUtv8AQNf9ggAqfGwPfcgYaCrG2gSdPYqW+QTK7yRtYaL RU+ssuVB7lmXy8JZRi3IP9bC+4q+bAniK/jztXSJw/b2PvMAwifYCrWJBg2OYcwM 6FFEti+CITiLQUwKOyfj49KYKg7cekHctc8c6rus+F3o+p8nEhs2hJVgN46Qak7b zuQfbEt8SoAWozLRfITxNi6QVg2ihhGhnPEn+x0TsdbDucBm7aZ1of2AfsKn/No1 C6ZQNOXxoXjUAi8L8KaUfVaXJtELWRHAyyCZyUocKp9LNEyotCvfxxMvqVB6t6Dg AwnWuVuxLHe5WobdRZ74RzAbJEqbWD9yEvG8zd0hI8OVlLfrQoUBEQ== =Z4Co -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter string question (v2.12)
Hello rich gregory everyone else, on 24-Jan-2006 at 04:27 you (rich gregory) wrote: It's still 2 filters then: 1 to get the junk to the junk and the other to put the good ones back. Of course. The spam filter is usually the last filter in the list of filters, so that it has the lowest priority. First you sort out the good ones, then the spam filter takes care of the leftovers. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Definition of Foreign Aid: The transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries -- Unknown, probably dead... Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filter string question (v2.12)
It's still 2 filters then: 1 to get the junk to the junk and the other to put the good ones back. ASK Of course. The spam filter is usually the last filter in the list of ASK filters, so that it has the lowest priority. First you sort out the good ASK ones, then the spam filter takes care of the leftovers. I would think that if I need 2 filters I would take *ALL* mail addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and FIRST send it to the spam bucket THEN filter the spam folder for correct_name [EMAIL PROTECTED] and return these to the pending orders folder. BUT the number of / order of filters is only 1/2 the question. I also do not know how to handle the spaces in the right/wrong addresses in this(these) filer(s). I would think the most elegant way to do it would be to ONLY move the BAD junk but I do not know how to tell a filter what I want. Just for a refresher (appologies to those who don't want/need this) here is the full details of what I had said... I have an email address that attracts a lot of spam, however any mail that goes to that address AND IS NOT spam is a PayPal notification of a payment and, therefore very important, an order that needs to be shipped. Examples: Good address: My real name [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bad address: Some random name or none at all [EMAIL PROTECTED] SO... If a mssg comes in INcorrectly addressed I want to direct the mssg into my JUNK folder otherwise I want it to be left in the IN-box. I do not know how to tell the Sorting Office interface to 1) handle the spaces in the correct address and 2) how to move the mssg if it is _NOT_ good. Maybe I need 2 filters? I am using ver 2.12. Would anyone please advise? Thanks much, Rich -- Beautiful Butterfly Displays http://FramedButterflyArt.com Random tagline: When the going gets tough, the tough take a coffee break. Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter string question (v2.12)
On Tuesday, January 24, 2006, 8:30:18 PM, rich gregory wrote: I would think that if I need 2 filters I would take *ALL* mail addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and FIRST send it to the spam bucket THEN filter the spam folder for correct_name [EMAIL PROTECTED] and return these to the pending orders folder. you lost me there. filter the mail you want to keep. put it whereever you want it. then all that's left is spam in the inbox, or your filter could be if a/then b, and go on to next step c, which is to move it to your junk folder. maybe b can be to flag the message or some such, and just leave it in the inbox, but why not have a this is good mail folder. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.65.04 on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filter string question (v2.12)
I would think that if I need 2 filters I would take *ALL* mail addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and FIRST send it to the spam bucket THEN filter the spam folder for correct_name [EMAIL PROTECTED] and return these to the pending orders folder. DAC you lost me there. filter the mail you want to keep. put it whereever DAC you want it. then all that's left is spam in the inbox, Well, I'd prefer not to leave spam in the inbox. DAC or your filter could be if a/then b, and go on to next step c, DAC which is to move it to your junk folder. This is what I was hoping to learn to do, but there were 2 questions as to how to do it. DAC maybe b can be to flag the message or some such, and just leave DAC it in the inbox, I'd prefer to have the filter do more work than just flag an e-mail... If it can flag an e-mail it can move an e-mail, no? DAC but why not have a this is good mail folder. The pending orders folder I mentioned is such a folder. Thanks much, Rich -- Beautiful Butterfly Displays http://FramedButterflyArt.com Random tagline: A day without sunshine is like night. Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter string question (v2.12)
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Re[2]: Filter string question (v2.12)
I was *hoping* for a magic bullet filter. As _ALL_ the spam emails DO NOT have 'real_name' in the TO: field. It *sounds* like an easy filter for someone who hows where/what to click to get the desired results. (Just that's not me!) DAC why not filter everything with the RIGHT NAME, then you have made the DAC same separation. It's still 2 filters then: 1 to get the junk to the junk and the other to put the good ones back. -- Beautiful Butterfly Displays http://FramedButterflyArt.com Random tagline: When you see a worthy person, endeavor to emulate him. When you see an unworthy person, then examine your inner self. - Confucius Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter string question (v2.12)
Hi On Thursday 19 January 2006 at 3:26:05 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], rich gregory wrote: I have an email address that attracts a lot of spam, however any mail that goes to that address AND IS NOT spam is a PayPal notification of a payment and, therefore very important, an order that needs to be shipped. Nothing to do with The Bat! but one suggestion is to change the email address your PayPal account sends these notifications to. ;-) Examples: Good address: My real name [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bad address: Some random name or none at all [EMAIL PROTECTED] SO... If a mssg comes in INcorrectly addressed I want to direct the mssg into my JUNK folder otherwise I want it to be left in the IN-box. IIRC there is some wisdom that suggests messages are better not left in the Inbox. I do not know how to tell the Sorting Office interface to 1) handle the spaces in the correct address and 2) how to move the mssg if it is _NOT_ good. Maybe I need 2 filters? I am using ver 2.12. Don't have v2 to hand but Recipient Contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] and Recipient Does not contain My real name Would seem the sort of conditions needed for an Action of Move to JUNK folder -- Best regards, MFPA The truth is rarely pure and never simple Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter string question (v2.12)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 19 Jan 2006, @ @ at 10:26:05 -0500, when rich gregory wrote: Hello Bat-Folk! I have an email address that attracts a lot of spam, however any mail that goes to that address AND IS NOT spam is a PayPal notification of a payment and, therefore very important, an order that needs to be shipped. Examples: Good address: My real name [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bad address: Some random name or none at all [EMAIL PROTECTED] SO... If a mssg comes in INcorrectly addressed I want to direct the mssg into my JUNK folder otherwise I want it to be left in the IN-box. I do not know how to tell the Sorting Office interface to 1) handle the spaces in the correct address and 2) how to move the mssg if it is _NOT_ good. Maybe I need 2 filters? I am using ver 2.12. Would anyone please advise? Hmm... If you would reorganize your filters to accept only messages with your real name, you would get rid of all sorts of spam, literally (with no additional software/strategies). It though requires small change in routines, both yours and perhaps some of your (valid) correspondents (in instructing them to address their messages to you always including your real/full name). Then would be all so easy. You would in Selective Download filter under the tab Rule put rich gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] and under the tab Advanced would check Action and None of strings should match and everything which is not addressed as above would be deleted from server. Works like charm/magic. I had big problems with loads of mail, people would simply get somewhere my address, even not knowing my real/full name, and then would just shoot up. In the same field you would then just add the usual Reply-To or similar headers corresponding to the lists/newsletters etc., you are subscribed to, and that would be it. - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://blueness.port5.com/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 509 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.6, and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector Linuxes via Wine... ~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given in my From|Reply To field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEVAwUBQ9QpuLSpHvHEUtv8AQMSTwf8CjQ31CkSUW8KFTL6VHjuEAVSclL2yjis 21Mw9z73Un0Zz9NbmSdNkXi/XuoD/aNaXn8dn4zzUVkNn0/r5XOr/oJjSxal3qU3 BY9Spm/QFmBL5wYuvXoIaL6Y4W7IkeRqyzr9fKZkRPv3ZH29IS7SaACdUWInuCDk SrFfDTG35Kj764meIAO4keX8GJ7AV0UvJaalTrGLL7XxZVNA+foq9Yr/Vk8+lR1V VyaK5LYOPLLGayLkfu2OB9W7CyirLTzhMBOt76FXYp9rY4ku50n+cfgzTVHkl10j MphXZMriF0mBkrYkfx/kTImXK1KE6bzY6FdNdsvLO6TJdZokyPGLyw== =OyyP -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter string question (v2.12)
On Sunday, January 22, 2006, 10:52:51 PM, rich gregory wrote: I was *hoping* for a magic bullet filter. As _ALL_ the spam emails DO NOT have 'real_name' in the TO: field. It *sounds* like an easy filter for someone who hows where/what to click to get the desired results. (Just that's not me!) why not filter everything with the RIGHT NAME, then you have made the same separation. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.65.04 on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
