Filtering questions.
Hi Bat! Fans, Is it possible to use the one filter for both icoming and outgoing mail, or must two filters be used? Using two isp accounts; is it possible for one filter to apply to both? What is the purpose of Common Filters? T.I.A.! -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v3.60.07 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 TOAD - what happens to an illegally parked frog. Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering questions.
Hallo John, On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 07:27:55 +1000GMT (9-9-2005, 23:27 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JP Is it possible to use the one filter for both icoming and outgoing mail, No. JP or must two filters be used? Yes. After checking my own incoming and outgoing filters I can only say that it wouldn't make sense to use 1 filter. My incoming filters check for senders and my outgoing filters check for recipients. (Yes, I've got exceptions to both rules, but nevertheless...) JP Using two isp accounts; is it possible for one filter to apply to both? Yes. JP What is the purpose of Common Filters? To use the same filter for multiple accounts. When you're using common filters, those will be checked first and then the account filters will be checked. -- Groetjes, Roelof Function call to load Windows: here_piggy_piggy_piggy_piggy The Bat! 3.61.03 beta Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpyWUwMjUqTm.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering questions.
Hello John, On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 07:27:55 +1000GMT John Phillips wrote: JP Is it possible to use the one filter for both icoming and outgoing mail, or JP must two filters be used? no, you have to use two filters JP Using two isp accounts; is it possible for one filter to apply to both? yes, it is, use common filters JP What is the purpose of Common Filters? they are account independent, you can select for which account the filter is active. -- Regards, Feli The Bat! 3.61.03 beta on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 BayesIt! 0.8.4 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering questions.
On Friday, September 9, 2005, 4:38:05 PM, Roelof Otten wrote: After checking my own incoming and outgoing filters I can only say that it wouldn't make sense to use 1 filter. My incoming filters check for senders and my outgoing filters check for recipients. (Yes, I've got exceptions to both rules, but nevertheless...) I have lots of filters which deal with subjects. One filter which always looked for a particular subject matter in incoming and outgoing would be very useful for that. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using The Bat! 3.61.03 beta on Windows XP version 5,1 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filtering questions.
Friday, September 09, 2005, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .. JP What is the purpose of Common Filters? To use the same filter for multiple accounts. When you're using common filters, those will be checked first and then the account filters will be checked. Are common filters available in v2? If yes, how do I get to it? -- Thanks in advance JM Using The Bat! 2.12.04 Under Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering questions.
Hi Roelof, On Fri, 9 Sep 2005, at 23:38:05 [GMT+0200] (which was Sat, 7:38:05 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: JP Is it possible to use the one filter for both icoming and outgoing mail, No. Pity. K-Mail in Linux allows this. Maybe something for the developers? JP Using two isp accounts; is it possible for one filter to apply to both? Yes. JP What is the purpose of Common Filters? To use the same filter for multiple accounts. When you're using common filters, those will be checked first and then the account filters will be checked. So how do I create one of these? When I look at the tree in the Sorting Office section, I see only Incoming, Outgoing, Read, Replied Selective. Thanks to yourself and others who have replied so quickly. -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v3.60.07 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Work fascinates me. I could sit and watch it for hours. Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering questions.
John On Sat 10 September 2005, 08:50:35 +1000, you wrote: So how do I create one of these? When I look at the tree in the Sorting Office section, I see only Incoming, Outgoing, Read, Replied Selective. Select Common Filters from the Account drop-down box at the top -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Filtering questions.
Hello z5worg, Friday, September 9, 2005, 5:35:50 PM, you wrote: zzc Are common filters available in v2? If yes, how do I get to it? No, not available in Version 2. Time to upgrade. ;) -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.61.03 beta on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering questions.
Hi Feli, On Fri, 9 Sep 2005, at 23:40:28 [GMT+0200] (which was Sat, 7:40:28 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: JP Using two isp accounts; is it possible for one filter to apply to both? yes, it is, use common filters This doesn't appear to be working. I have a K9 filter set up on both isp accounts, transferred this to Common Filters, now not picking up the spam. Is there something else I should be doing here to get common filters to work? -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v3.60.07 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Gun control is being able to hit your target! Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filtering questions.
Hello John, Friday, September 9, 2005, 6:50:38 PM, you wrote: JP Is there something else I should be doing here to get common filters to JP work? Go into sorting office and copy the filter you are trying and then paste it here. We will take a look at it. Another issue you may want to check is the order of your filters. I can't remember which comes first account filters of common filters. If it is account filters it may be possible the messages are being caught by an account filter that is not allowing continuing processing. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.61.03 beta on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering questions.
At 09:50 [GMT+1000] on Saturday September 10 (actual time - 7:50am on Saturday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: I have a K9 filter set up on both isp accounts, transferred this to Common Filters, now not picking up the spam. Is there something else I should be doing here to get common filters to work? First thing to do is check that there's not some thing else triggering before it (check the log). Second thing is to make sure Share with is ticked for the accounts you need. Third thing is to not play with filters early on a Saturday :-) -- cheers, mic Any man who knows all the answers most likely misunderstood the questions. Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering questions.
Hi Mic, On Sat, 10 Sep 2005, at 08:37:02 [GMT+0800] (which was 10:37:02 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: First thing to do is check that there's not some thing else triggering before it (check the log). Second thing is to make sure Share with is ticked for the accounts you need. Thanks, I didn't realise that had to be selected. Hope it works now! Third thing is to not play with filters early on a Saturday :-) Err... or after a heavy Friday night! -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v3.60.07 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Very funny, Scotty. Now beam up my clothes. Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering questions.
Hello John, On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 08:50:35 +1000 GMT (10/09/2005, 05:50 +0700 GMT), John Phillips wrote: JP Is it possible to use the one filter for both icoming and outgoing mail, No. JP Pity. K-Mail in Linux allows this. Maybe something for the developers? Please support this wish: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3319 -- Cheers, Thomas. I've heard people are more violently opposed to fur than leather because it's safer to harass rich women than motorcycle gangs. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.61.02 beta under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filtering questions
1. What is the difference between Outgoing message and Replied message filters? e.g. If I want to sort all messages to TBUDL into a separate folder, some messages (like this one) would be a new message while others would be replies. Do I need 2 filters -- one for Outgoing and one for Replies? If not, what are the circumstances that one would put a filter into Replied Messages? 2. I have a filter for Outgoing message; and I want that message marked as UNread. Looking under the Action tab, the only option is to marked it Read. But all outgoing messages are automatically treated as Read (Marked the message as read is unchecked). So that checkbox doesn't seem to make sense. Anyway, is there a way to get TB to mark a filtered Outgoing message as UNread? -- Thanks in advance Using The Bat! 2.12.04 Under Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering questions
Hallo z5worg, On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 19:22:44 -0400GMT (8-9-2005, 1:22 +0200, where I live), you wrote: Z 1. What is the difference between Outgoing message and Replied message Z filters? Incoming filters are applied when the message is incoming Read filters are applied as soon as the message changes from 'read' to 'unread' Replied filters are being applied when you reply to the message Outgoing filters are being applied after the message has been sent Selective download filters are something else, they're being applied while the message is still on the server. Z e.g. If I want to sort all messages to TBUDL into a separate Z folder, some messages (like this one) would be a new message while Z others would be replies. Do I need 2 filters -- one for Outgoing and Z one for Replies? In this case you'll only need a message for outgoing messages. Z If not, what are the circumstances that one would put a filter into Z Replied Messages? You get a number of messages that need a reply, but don't have time for that right now. So you move them to folder called 'Pending', now you've got this replied filter that moves them out of 'Pending' as soon as you reply to them. Z 2. I have a filter for Outgoing message; and I want that message marked Z as UNread. Looking under the Action tab, the only option is to marked it Z Read. That must be a difference between v2 and v3, as I have a 'Mark message as unread' action immediately below 'Mark as read' Z Anyway, is there a way to get TB to mark a filtered Outgoing Z message as UNread? Upgrade to v3? You could try to 'mark as read', maybe it's just toggling the read status, but I don't know, it's been awhile since I used v2. -- Groetjes, Roelof WINDOWS is to computing what Etch-a-Sketch is to art. The Bat! 3.61.03 beta Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpogpjGo4AHA.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filtering questions
Wednesday, September 07, 2005, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 19:22:44 -0400GMT (8-9-2005, 1:22 +0200, where I live), you wrote: . Z 2. I have a filter for Outgoing message; and I want that message marked Z as UNread. Looking under the Action tab, the only option is to marked it Z Read. That must be a difference between v2 and v3, as I have a 'Mark message as unread' action immediately below 'Mark as read' In v2, Flagging the message is the 2nd option. Z Anyway, is there a way to get TB to mark a filtered Outgoing Z message as UNread? Upgrade to v3? You could try to 'mark as read', maybe it's just toggling the read status, but I don't know, it's been awhile since I used v2. Checking mark as read doesn't work. Thanks for the explanation of the differences in the various types of filters. -- JM Using The Bat! 2.12.04 Under Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Advanced Filtering Questions
Hello Thomas, On Monday, August 06, 2001 at 7:52:40 PM you wrote (at least in part): TF It is included over here... Not here ... TB! has always behaved like this for me: The Sender's name _IS_ the senders NAME. It has never included the email in it's search/filter at advanced filter for me :-( That was one point I recognized very early and I still don't know if I'm happy with it :-( -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/4 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) Liberals don't believe they deserve anything they own; conservatives think they're entitled to everything they've stolen. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Advanced Filtering Questions
Hello Peter, On Tue, 7 Aug 2001 11:47:29 +0200 GMT (07/08/2001, 17:47 +0800 GMT), Peter Palmreuther wrote: TF It is included over here... PP Not here ... PP TB! has always behaved like this for me: PP The Sender's name _IS_ the senders NAME. I tried it again. Preview pane. View / Display / Advanced / Sender contains: dutaint.com I noticed that not all, but about half of the messages of today are displayed. This is getting weird. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. As of 1992, they'll be called European Economic Community fries. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/4 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Advanced Filtering Questions
OK... so I go to View / Display / Advanced Filtering. Then I go to Header and tell it that I want to view the messages where the recipient's name contains dutaint.com . But it only shows me the ones where dutaint.com is visible. What I mean is the ones that are addressed to, say Dierk Haasis are not seen - but when you look at those messages in a message window, they show this in the To field: Dierk Haasis [EMAIL PROTECTED] dutaint.com is visible there, but not in the message list window - but, to me, the filter should still detect what is really there. HELP?? Thanx!! -jim- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Advanced Filtering Questions
Hello Jimbo4, On Mon, 6 Aug 2001 09:26:28 -0400 GMT (06/08/2001, 21:26 +0800 GMT), Jimbo4 - Adelphia wrote: JA OK... so I go to View / Display / Advanced Filtering. I just did the same. JA Then I go to Header and tell it that I want to view the messages JA where the recipient's name contains dutaint.com . I still follow you. JA But it only shows me the ones where dutaint.com is visible. What JA I mean is the ones that are addressed to, say Dierk Haasis are JA not seen - but when you look at those messages in a message JA window, they show this in the To field: Dierk Haasis JA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here it shows all messages that contain dutain.com in the header. Maybe you mean your quote litarally and have actually typed in the quotation marks? If so, try without them. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Everyone needs belief in something. I believe I'll have another beer. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/4 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Filtering Questions (was: Re: changing source folder (for filtering))
Hello Susanne, On Tuesday, September 26, 2000 at 16:15:21 GMT -0700 (which was 4:15 PM where I live) witnesses say Susanne typed: I do wish there were a better helpfile for the Bat. (I'm not just picking on you Susanne, this filter thread just happened to be the one open right now.) If I may interject, for anyone looking for filtering basics, check out the filtering page in the FAQ. It is really well written and even has screen shots to help you through it. It is a little out of date with the Kill Filters, but the rest seems to be fully applicable. Check out: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/filtering.html I wouldn't have to bother everbody on this list with my questions. Don't feel bad about having to ask questions. With a program this powerful, it can be hard to wrap your brain around *every* detail. Good manual or otherwise. Could the reason be that the (SA) is added to the subject line later by egroups? I would think that the brackets may be causing more problems than anything else. I don't use brackets in filters, except in Regular Expressions. But there they have a well defined meaning. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
