Re: General questions

2002-10-01 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

SM> If  some third party should happen to reply to this message
SM> off-list, my system will do the normal processing on it, unless I have
SM> a  way  to  whitelist messageIDs, in which case, TB! will see that the
SM> incoming In-Reply-To matches an outgoing MessageID.

you can create a list of the msgids of the messages you send using an
'outgoing filter' with the action 'Export to file', with a saving
template that only includes the msgid, obtained with regexp. If you
config the filter to append new data to the end of the file, you'll
have file in your disk with the list of msgids issued by your program.

What can you do with that file? I don't know :)

I can't find a way to read it in an incoming filter, but maybe there's
some way around

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Re: General questions

2002-09-30 Thread Scott McNay


Hi Ricardo!

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
on Monday, September 30, 2002, 8:46:56 PM, you wrote:

SM>> Now, if outgoing messageid's could be whitelisted also...

RMR> what do you mean?

Messages  have  message-IDs  in the header.  In your message, it looks
like this:

Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hit  F9  to  see the message-ID in this message.  The message-ID above
should  appear in the In-Reply-To field and the References field of this
message.   If  some third party should happen to reply to this message
off-list, my system will do the normal processing on it, unless I have
a  way  to  whitelist messageIDs, in which case, TB! will see that the
incoming In-Reply-To matches an outgoing MessageID.

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Re: General questions

2002-09-30 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes



SM> Right; I don't see much point in restricting it to replies only.

SM> Now, if outgoing messageid's could be whitelisted also...

what do you mean?


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Re: General questions

2002-09-30 Thread Scott McNay


Hi Lars!

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
on Monday, September 30, 2002, 2:36:04 PM, you wrote:

LG> Although I'd guess from the original message that collecting the
LG> addresses from every person you write a message to would be just fine.

Right; I don't see much point in restricting it to replies only.

Now, if outgoing messageid's could be whitelisted also...

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Re: General questions

2002-09-30 Thread Scott McNay


Hi Ricardo!

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
on Monday, September 30, 2002, 2:21:48 PM, you wrote:

RMR> how about an 'Outgoing Filter' ?

RMR> It would white-list everyone you send a message to, and not exactly
RMR> everyone you reply to, but I guess it's close enough for most people.

Actually,  that  sounds  better,  since  one  would generally want all
recipients to be whitelisted.

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Re: General questions

2002-09-30 Thread Scott McNay


Hi Joseph!

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
on Monday, September 30, 2002, 8:08:30 AM, you wrote:

SM>> A target folder is ok, since I sooner or later move my sent mail
SM>> to the inbox anyway, to be automatically sorted by the same
SM>> filters that handle incoming email

JN> That technique seems preferable to setting up mirrored filters for
JN> sent and read mail.  Have you experienced any problems or changes to
JN> message attributes by changing folders like that?


No,  I  don't  change  any  attributes,  just move the messages to the
intended  folders.  Well,  spam  emails  and  some  repetitive routine
messages  get marked as read. In Outhouse, I had mirror rules, but now
I  search,  in  most  cases, for an email address somewhere within the
header,  and  this  applies  quite well for both outgoing and incoming
mail.

Outhouse  also has an option to save replies in the same folder as the
original.  By  now  using  a  single  rule  (usually not even compound
rules),   I   avoid  the  need  to  deliberately  reproduce  the  same
functionality in The Bat!.

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Re: General questions

2002-09-30 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Ricardo,
On Monday, September 30, 2002 at 16:21:48 [GMT -0300], you wrote:

RMR> how about an 'Outgoing Filter' ?

RMR> It would white-list everyone you send a message to, and not exactly
RMR> everyone you reply to, but I guess it's close enough for most people.

Or even better, make an outgoing filter which looks for the presence of
"^Re:" in the subject (without quotation marks), enable regular
expressions and add the recipient to an address book. This would solve
the problem to collect addresses from replies only.

Although I'd guess from the original message that collecting the
addresses from every person you write a message to would be just fine.

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Re: General questions

2002-09-30 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes


ACM> It's better to just make a single filter, make it manual only and
ACM> assign it a hotkey. Make it add the the sender address to your
ACM> whitelist address book. Whenever you're replying to an address you
ACM> wish to add, just hit the shortcut for the filter.

how about an 'Outgoing Filter' ?

It would white-list everyone you send a message to, and not exactly
everyone you reply to, but I guess it's close enough for most people.

And they are not tied to an specific folder, since they apply to
messages from the outbox.

I don't use it, so I'm not sure if it works, but I guess it should.


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Re[2]: General questions

2002-09-30 Thread Joseph N.

   On Monday, September 30, 2002, Scott McNay wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

SM> A target folder is ok, since I sooner or later move my sent mail
SM> to the inbox anyway, to be automatically sorted by the same
SM> filters that handle incoming email

Scott,

That technique seems preferable to setting up mirrored filters for
sent and read mail.  Have you experienced any problems or changes to
message attributes by changing folders like that?

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Re: General questions

2002-09-29 Thread Scott McNay


Hi Allie!

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
on Sunday, September 29, 2002, 10:53:51 PM, you wrote:

ACM> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
ACM> Scott Mcnay [SM] wrote:'

SM>> First, in the sorting office, you can set an email to have
SM>> various addresses added to a specific address book. Is there any
SM>> way to call this from a template? That way, if I reply to
SM>> someone, I can have the name/email/etc added to a whitelist
SM>> address book. I can think of some other interesting uses of this
SM>> also.

ACM> This can be done but if you wish to do it for multiple folders then
ACM> you'll have to do some hoop jumping. A replied filter would be what
ACM> you need. One that will match any message (you can use the filter
ACM> string 'e' and source 'Kludges'), check to see if the sender address
ACM> is in your address book, and if not, add it to the whitelist group.
ACM> Both of those settings are under the advanced tab.

ACM> Unfortunately, these replied filters are bound to single folders as
ACM> the message source when working automatically and a target folder
ACM> has to be defined.

A  target  folder  is ok, since I sooner or later move my sent mail to
the  inbox anyway, to be automatically sorted by the same filters that
handle  incoming email; I'd just rather have things happen immediately
instead   of  waiting  for  me  to  manually  move  the  replies  and
re-filtering.

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Re: General questions

2002-09-29 Thread Allie C Martin

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In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Scott Mcnay [SM] wrote:'

SM> First, in the sorting office, you can set an email to have
SM> various addresses added to a specific address book. Is there any
SM> way to call this from a template? That way, if I reply to
SM> someone, I can have the name/email/etc added to a whitelist
SM> address book. I can think of some other interesting uses of this
SM> also.

This can be done but if you wish to do it for multiple folders then
you'll have to do some hoop jumping. A replied filter would be what
you need. One that will match any message (you can use the filter
string 'e' and source 'Kludges'), check to see if the sender address
is in your address book, and if not, add it to the whitelist group.
Both of those settings are under the advanced tab.

Unfortunately, these replied filters are bound to single folders as
the message source when working automatically and a target folder
has to be defined.

It's better to just make a single filter, make it manual only and
assign it a hotkey. Make it add the the sender address to your
whitelist address book. Whenever you're replying to an address you
wish to add, just hit the shortcut for the filter.

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General questions

2002-09-29 Thread Scott McNay

Hi, all!

I have a couple of general questions, prompted by recent discussions.

First,  in  the  sorting  office, you can set an email to have various
addresses  added to a specific address book.  Is there any way to call
this  from  a  template?   That way, if I reply to someone, I can have
the  name/email/etc added to a whitelist address book.  I can think of
some other interesting uses of this also.

Second, it would be nice if there was a way to have a template apply a
specific  filter  to  a  folder on demand.  Prior discussions indicate
that  this  capability  isn't  available,  unless  one  wants to use a
third-party app to control The Bat!.

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