Re: Help with a filter

2008-09-04 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Martin,

On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 20:26:41 -0600GMT (4-9-2008, 4:26 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

OMM Which I have now.  But how do I then get it to filter that message
OMM that I do want into the appropriate folder?

Not with this filter, filters aren't 'if then else' constructions,
mere 'if then' thingies. And even though Paul supposed in his
reactions that you'd want to move your messages you didn't say so, so
you didn't get the proper answers for moving stuff around.

OMM I will try the two filters method.

That's the only option. The easiest way to do so, is to create a
filter that checks for the sender and moves to a folder and a
subfilter that deletes when the subject isn't your favourite subject.
It's not that other constructs won't work, but this way your filter
conditions are single conditions and that's best when you want to
alter something or try to find it why something doesn't work as
intended.

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Re: Help with a filter

2008-09-04 Thread O. Martin Moran
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On Thursday, September 4, 2008 at 1:12:34 AM, Roelof wrote:

RO The easiest way to do so, is to create a
RO filter that checks for the sender and moves to a folder and a
RO subfilter that deletes when the subject isn't your favourite subject.

Thank you so much for all the help, everyone, I will try it.  Roelof,
I appreciate your patience, and yes, I could probably have explained
it better.

Thanks again!

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Re: Help with a filter

2008-09-03 Thread Paul Berger
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 2:07:28 PM, you wrote:

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OMM Hi folks,

OMM I'm trying to figure out how to get a filter to work.  I subscribe to
OMM something that sends a number of things, and you can't select what you
OMM want and what you dont.

OMM I'm looking to have a filter say:

OMM If SENDER is [EMAIL PROTECTED] delete the message
OMM Unless SUBJECT is SUBJECT THAT I WANT

OMM I tried doing the first as the filter and the second as a sub filter,
OMM no luck.  I tried doing the second as a part of the main filter, also
OMM no go.

OMM Any help appreciated!



Try 2 filters in this order:

If SUBJECT is SUBJECT THAT I WANT

Then Move to some folder

If SENDER is [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Then Move to Trash


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Re: Help with a filter

2008-09-03 Thread Paul Berger
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 2:07:28 PM, you wrote:

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OMM Hi folks,

OMM I'm trying to figure out how to get a filter to work.  I subscribe to
OMM something that sends a number of things, and you can't select what you
OMM want and what you dont.

OMM I'm looking to have a filter say:

OMM If SENDER is [EMAIL PROTECTED] delete the message
OMM Unless SUBJECT is SUBJECT THAT I WANT

OMM I tried doing the first as the filter and the second as a sub filter,
OMM no luck.  I tried doing the second as a part of the main filter, also
OMM no go.

OMM Any help appreciated!

A bit better than my first reply.

Try 2 filters in this order:

First:

  If SENDER is [EMAIL PROTECTED]

AND

If SUBJECT is SUBJECT THAT I WANT

Then Move to some folder

Second:

  If SENDER is [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Then Move to Trash


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Re: Help with a filter

2008-09-03 Thread Geoff Lane
On 03 September 2008, 05:07, O. Martin Moran wrote:

 If SENDER is [EMAIL PROTECTED] delete the message
 Unless SUBJECT is SUBJECT THAT I WANT
~~~

In TB! version 1, you add a second condition to the rule by pressing
Alt+Insert. This lets you create a compound rule with the semantics:
Sender contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the subject is not SUBJECT THAT I WANT

These are the two lines of a suitable filter

String: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / Field: Sender / Presence: Yes
String: SUBJECT THAT I WANT / Field: Subject / Presence: No

Hopefully, it'll be similar in later versions.

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Re: Help with a filter

2008-09-03 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Martin,

On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 22:07:28 -0600GMT (3-9-2008, 6:07 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

OMM I'm trying to figure out how to get a filter to work.  I subscribe to
OMM something that sends a number of things, and you can't select what you
OMM want and what you dont.

That should pose no problem.

OMM I'm looking to have a filter say:

OMM If SENDER is [EMAIL PROTECTED] delete the message
OMM Unless SUBJECT is SUBJECT THAT I WANT

The should be:
Condition:
Sender is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AND Subject does not contain what I want
Action:
Delete the message.

OMM I tried doing the first as the filter and the second as a sub filter,
OMM no luck.

That would be a no go. After the first filter the message would be
deleted and afterwards you cannot undelete it.

OMM I tried doing the second as a part of the main filter, also
OMM no go.

Then you've probably done something wrong.

OMM Any help appreciated!

Copy the text of this filter and paste it into your sorting office.
That should give you an idea how it should look like:

 TB! Message Filter 
beginFilter
UID: [1F082088.01C90DA8.724EDF21.6FA7E3A9]
Name: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Delete
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter


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Re: Help with a filter

2008-09-03 Thread Jens Franik

am Mittwoch, 3. September 2008 um 06:07 schrieb O. Martin Moran:

 If SENDER is [EMAIL PROTECTED] delete the message
 Unless SUBJECT is SUBJECT THAT I WANT

NOT is your Friend:

If Sender is E-Mail
AND
Subject is-NOT Favorite-Subject
DO
delete the Mail


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Re: Help with a filter

2008-09-03 Thread O. Martin Moran
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On Wednesday, September 3, 2008 at 10:02:29 AM, Jens wrote:

JF NOT is your Friend:

JF If Sender is E-Mail
JF AND
JF Subject is-NOT Favorite-Subject
JF DO
JF delete the Mail

Which I have now.  But how do I then get it to filter that message
that I do want into the appropriate folder?

I will try the two filters method.

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Help with a filter

2008-09-02 Thread O. Martin Moran
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Hi folks,

I'm trying to figure out how to get a filter to work.  I subscribe to
something that sends a number of things, and you can't select what you
want and what you dont.

I'm looking to have a filter say:

If SENDER is [EMAIL PROTECTED] delete the message
Unless SUBJECT is SUBJECT THAT I WANT

I tried doing the first as the filter and the second as a sub filter,
no luck.  I tried doing the second as a part of the main filter, also
no go.

Any help appreciated!

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Re: Regular expression help - a simple filter - Argh!!!

2004-09-13 Thread Dan Grunberg
Fri, 10 Sep 2004 21:04:46 +0100 (4:04 PM EDT here) Stuart Moore wrote:

 Although difficult to do exactly what you want, you can come
 pretty close with:

 \*?\bist-?d?\b

I tested both of these RegExs for _all_ your patterns, and both of them
worked.

  \*?\bist\s?-?d?\b[where \s? matches 0 or 1 space]

  \*?ist\s?-?d?\b

Unfortunately, both of the RegExs also match patterns that include
ist -d . Patterns that include ist- d are matched as ist .

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Fwd: Re[2]: Regular expression help - a simple filter - Argh!!!

2004-09-13 Thread Stuart Moore
Hi Bill,

Thanks for trying. 

Saturday, September 11, 2004, 1:14:03 AM, you wrote:

BM On Fri 10-Sep-04 3:04pm -0400, Stuart Moore wrote:

 Guys, thanks for suggestions.

 Although difficult to do exactly what you want, you can come pretty
 close with:

 \*?\bist-?d?\b

 For example, the following subject lines are not
 matched (I also changed the pattern to have a capital D in
 it just in case):

BM In v3, I believe, regex is caseless - you don't have to
BM worry about case.

   Re: *ist D for me
   Re: *ist (35mm) custom functions  360FGZ flash
   Re: HELP - Firmware 1.11 for *ist D
   *ist D purchased on a whim
   RE: ENABLED limited ist D
   RE: Batteries for the istD
   RE: IST D and Pentax-F 1.7x AF adapter
   Re: IST-D discontinued?
   Paint Shop Pro 9 built in RAW support for *ist D
   istD price change

BM Hmm, using RegEx Test, hits were found in all of those
BM lines.

 Also might I be right in thinking that in principle the
 * marks a word boundary anyway so \*? is redundant and -?
 is also redundant as I am also interested in ist matches
 and - marks a word boundary.

BM It is because * and - are word boundaries, I mentioned that
BM it is difficult to do exactly what you want.

BM \*? is redundant if you're not going to use the result.
BM That is *ist be matched including it.  ist will be
BM matched in *ist if you don't include it.

BM But the ending isn't included properly anyway.  So simply

BM \bistd?\b

BM is probably good enough :-)

BM BTW, anyone trying this with a non-caseless implementation
BM should use:

BM (?s)\bistd?\b

I just cannot get the expressions to work well. I have admitted failure and gone to 
multiple ORed literal searches. Will revisit with future versions of The Bat.

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Regular expression help - a simple filter - Argh!!!

2004-09-10 Thread Stuart Moore
I need help with a filter using a regular expression in v3. I have tried many many 
times and failed completely. I think I am following the rules but The Bat does not 
seem to follow them.I am not experienced in PERL so hope I am just being very ignorant.

I want to find any posts that have any of the following complete strings (case is not 
relevant):

*ist
*istd
*ist-d
ist
istd
ist-d

(In case you are wondering, the ist refers to a particular Pentax camera and I want to 
filter out messages about this camera from a broader mailing list.)

I do, of course, want to avoid matching on any longer words that have ist or istd in 
them (beginning, end or middle).

Firstly, searches on message source do not seem to work at all. Anything in the 
regular expression other than a simple string seems to cause no messages to be parsed. 
I have therefore had to use the same regular expression twice linked with an OR to 
search both subject and text.

Secondly, many many attempts seem to fail if the string falls at the end of the 
subject line.

I thought something like this would do the job:

((?i)\b\*?istd?\b)

which seems to do the trick in The Regex Coach. (I note I can drop \* as the * marks a 
word boundary anyway.Similarly, if I get to a - then I have found a match and do not 
need to check for -d.)

However, The Bat does not seem to like the (?i) construction so I have replaced this 
thus:

\b[iI][sS][tT][dD]?\b

Still very limited joy. A few messages are selected but nowhere near as many as should 
be. (I have about 6000 messages to search around 2000 of which should be targeted.)

Please can anyone point me in the right direction. I am getting very very frustrated 
and do not find The Bat's help at all useful. (It does not look like it has been 
updated for version 3 either.)

TIA.  

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Re: Regular expression help - a simple filter - Argh!!!

2004-09-10 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Fri 10-Sep-04 6:12am -0400, Stuart Moore wrote:

 I want to find any posts that have any of the following
 complete strings (case is not relevant):

 *ist
 *istd
 *ist-d
 ist
 istd
 ist-d

Although difficult to do exactly what you want, you can come
pretty close with:

\*?\bist-?d?\b

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Re: Regular expression help - a simple filter - Argh!!!

2004-09-10 Thread Dan Grunberg
Fri, 10 Sep 2004 13:05:51 -0500 (2:05 PM EDT here) Bill McCarthy wrote:

 I want to find any posts that have any of the following complete
 strings (case is not relevant):

 *ist
 *istd
 *ist-d
 ist
 istd
 ist-d

 Although difficult to do exactly what you want, you can come pretty
 close with:

 \*?\bist-?d?\b

Wouldn't:\b*?ist-?\b ie: \b   word boundary
 *?   0 or 1 asterisk
 ist
 -?   0 or 1 dash
 d?   0 or 1 d
 \b   word boundary
work better?




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Re[2]: Regular expression help - a simple filter - Argh!!!

2004-09-10 Thread Stuart Moore
Guys, thanks for suggestions.

 Although difficult to do exactly what you want, you can come pretty
 close with:

 \*?\bist-?d?\b

DG Wouldn't:\b*?ist-?\b ie: \b   word boundary
DG  *?   0 or 1 asterisk
DG  ist
DG  -?   0 or 1 dash
DG  d?   0 or 1 d
DG  \b   word boundary
DG work better?




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(Dan - I assume you accidentally left d? out?)

I tried these already and the do not work for all messages. This is what is driving me 
bonkers.

For example, the following subject lines are not matched (I also changed the pattern 
to have a capital D in it just in case):

Re: *ist D for me
Re: *ist (35mm) custom functions  360FGZ flash
Re: HELP - Firmware 1.11 for *ist D
*ist D purchased on a whim
RE: ENABLED limited ist D
RE: Batteries for the istD
RE: IST D and Pentax-F 1.7x AF adapter
Re: IST-D discontinued?
Paint Shop Pro 9 built in RAW support for *ist D
istD price change

Also might I be right in thinking that in principle the * marks a word boundary anyway 
so \*? is redundant and -? is also redundant as I am also interested in ist matches 
and - marks a word boundary. It may be a red herring, but it also seems to me that 
with \b at the end, subject lines ending with ist are not matched for some reason I do 
not understand.

I take it that the default setting for matching is already caseless in The Bat as you 
have not included (?i) instructions or case alternatives?

Thanks for trying. Any more thoughts?

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Re: Regular expression help - a simple filter - Argh!!!

2004-09-10 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Fri 10-Sep-04 3:04pm -0400, Stuart Moore wrote:

 Guys, thanks for suggestions.

 Although difficult to do exactly what you want, you can come pretty
 close with:

 \*?\bist-?d?\b

 For example, the following subject lines are not
 matched (I also changed the pattern to have a capital D in
 it just in case):

In v3, I believe, regex is caseless - you don't have to
worry about case.

   Re: *ist D for me
   Re: *ist (35mm) custom functions  360FGZ flash
   Re: HELP - Firmware 1.11 for *ist D
   *ist D purchased on a whim
   RE: ENABLED limited ist D
   RE: Batteries for the istD
   RE: IST D and Pentax-F 1.7x AF adapter
   Re: IST-D discontinued?
   Paint Shop Pro 9 built in RAW support for *ist D
   istD price change

Hmm, using RegEx Test, hits were found in all of those
lines.

 Also might I be right in thinking that in principle the
 * marks a word boundary anyway so \*? is redundant and -?
 is also redundant as I am also interested in ist matches
 and - marks a word boundary.

It is because * and - are word boundaries, I mentioned that
it is difficult to do exactly what you want.

\*? is redundant if you're not going to use the result.
That is *ist be matched including it.  ist will be
matched in *ist if you don't include it.

But the ending isn't included properly anyway.  So simply

\bistd?\b

is probably good enough :-)

BTW, anyone trying this with a non-caseless implementation
should use:

(?s)\bistd?\b

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Re: Help creating a filter

2003-08-14 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Steve,

Thursday, August 14, 2003, 10:04:34 AM, you wrote:
SMS I'm wondering if someone might be able to assist me with creating
SMS a rule. Essentially, I'm wanting to have a sound play whenever
SMS mail is received from a specific person. THat's the easy part,
SMS however, the person I have in mind often posts to mailing lists,
SMS so I would want other rules to be executed. I guess my question
SMS is do I need to be careful where I place the rule in the list of
SMS rules? Do I need to check the override box?

What you'll want to do is place the sound filter at the top of your
filter list (or at least above any filters that might move this
person's message). Then on the Options Tab of the sound filter, check
the box Continue Processing with other Filters. Make sure you don't
move the message to another box on the Rule tab.


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Re: Help creating a filter

2003-08-14 Thread Stuart Hemming
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SMS I guess my question is do I need to be careful where I place the
SMS rule in the list of rules?
Well, if the only action you want to take is to play the sound file,
I'd put my rule near the top of the list.

SMS Do I need to check the override box?
? I don't know what you mean by this. You /will/ need to check the
'Contibute Processing ...' box

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Help creating a filter

2003-08-14 Thread Steve M. Sawczyn
Hi all,

I'm wondering if someone might be able to assist me with creating a
rule.  Essentially, I'm wanting to have a sound play whenever mail
is received from a specific person.  THat's the easy part, however,
the person I have in mind often posts to mailing lists, so I would
want other rules to be executed.  I guess my question is do I need
to be careful where I place the rule in the list of rules?  Do I need
to check the override box?

Any help greatly appreciated.
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Re: Help creating a filter

2003-08-14 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Steve,

Thursday, August 14, 2003, 10:41:21 AM, you wrote:
SMS I'm assuming the only way I can tell TB not to move the message
SMS is to specify the inbox as the target folder? I don't see a way
SMS to leave that field blank.

Correct.


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Re[2]: Help creating a filter

2003-08-14 Thread Steve M. Sawczyn
Hello Leif,

Thursday, August 14, 2003, 12:20:45 PM, you wrote:

LG What you'll want to do is place the sound filter at the top of your
LG filter list (or at least above any filters that might move this
LG person's message). Then on the Options Tab of the sound filter, check
LG the box Continue Processing with other Filters. Make sure you don't
LG move the message to another box on the Rule tab.

I'm assuming the only way I can tell TB not to move the message is to
specify the inbox as the target folder?  I don't see a way to leave that
field blank.

THanks again,

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help with first filter please! :)

2002-10-07 Thread alists - wildpetals

Hello buds!

Today I have encountered a reason to do a more complicated filter in
TB..

I am receiving emails that look like this..

Catalog request from Valeria Curlee, information entered on 10/6/02 10:53:40 AM

Name: My Name
Company Name: N/A
Address: PO BOX218
City: Georgetown 
State: GA.
Zip Code: 39854
Country: US
Phone: 999-99-
Email Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Resale Number: 
Personal User? Yes
Cottage Artisan? 
Instructor or Teacher? 
Store Owner or Manager? 

I need to load the info into the address book!!

Is this possible with TB... if so, how do I first... capture the email
address and put it into the nickname addressbook KlewNew.. and also,
would like to capture the person's info as much as possible...

Any ideas? Has this been done before?

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Re: help with first filter please! :)

2002-10-07 Thread Roelof Otten

Hallo alists,

On Mon, 7 Oct 2002 11:32:50 -0700GMT (7-10-02, 20:32 +0200GMT, where I
live), you wrote:

aw Catalog request from Valeria Curlee, information entered on 10/6/02 10:53:40 AM

Filter on 'Catalog request from' present in text.

aw Name: My Name
aw Company Name: N/A
snipped for brevity
aw I need to load the info into the address book!!

Create a template that saves the info in a vcf and afterwards import
the vcf manually into your addressbook.

aw Is this possible with TB...

Not automatically, unless it's possible to import vcf's from the
commandline.

aw if so, how do I first... capture the email address

Create a template like:

BEGIN:VCARD
VERSION:2.1
%SETPATTREGEXP=(?is)(^Name: (.*?)\nCompany Name: (.*?)\nAddress: 
(.*?)\nCity(.*?)\nState: (.*?)\nZip Code: (.*?)\Country: (.*?)\nPhone: (.*?)\nEmail 
address: (.*?))%-
%REGEXPBlindMATCH=%TEXT%-
FN:%Subpatt=2
EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET: %Subpatt=10
TEL;HOME;VOICE:%Subpatt=9
END:VCARD

aw and put it into the nickname addressbook KlewNew.. and also,
aw would like to capture the person's info as much as possible...

Well, I didn't test the regexp, maybe somebody should look at it, if
it doesn't work.


aw Any ideas? Has this been done before?

I can't get any closer than this.

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Re: Help with kill filter please?

2002-09-13 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello mm!

On Friday, September 13, 2002 at 3:05:07 AM you wrote:

 Can anyone here help?

You can filter for the string in Body. although I won't do it
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Re: Help with kill filter please?

2002-09-13 Thread Thomas F.

Hello mm,

On Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:05:07 -0400 GMT (13/09/02, 08:05 +0700 GMT),
mm Meister wrote:

mM I was directed to this list by an automatic bot at bat  ;]

That's nice. :-) Which bot was it?

mM really nice kill filter. It's easy to get to, and allows killing by
mM word or phrase in the body of the email message.

In TB, check out Account / Sorting Office / Selective Download. This
used to be called Kill Filters, but the name has been changed for
political correctness. ;-)

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Re: Help with kill filter please?

2002-09-13 Thread Thomas F.

Hello Meister,

On Fri, 13 Sep 2002 15:08:32 +0700 GMT (13/09/02, 15:08 +0700 GMT),
Thomas F. wrote:

mM really nice kill filter. It's easy to get to, and allows killing by
mM word or phrase in the body of the email message.

TF In TB, check out Account / Sorting Office / Selective Download.

Ignore this. As Marck already pointed out, the Selective Download
filters only look at the headers, not the message body.

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Help with kill filter please?

2002-09-12 Thread mm Meister

Hi Bat users,

I was directed to this list by an automatic bot at bat  ;]


I am a long-time user of The Bat! - a single-user on a laptop running
Win98.

Recently because I was unhappy with Opera's upgrade, I wanted to check
the userworthiness of Mozilla and so downloaded their latest. Just for
fun, I picked up some mail through their system and I discovered their
really nice kill filter. It's easy to get to, and allows killing by
word or phrase in the body of the email message. With the way the
clever spammers change the send column, searching by either subject
or sender is useless most times. So the kill filter can't do anything
except scan for general words in the subject line. That is very easy
to circumvent by an intent spammer. I've been all over The Bat! looked
at the tutorial on PC Wise and cannot figure out how to accomplish
this type of filtering.

Can anyone here help?

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Re: Help with a filter ....

2002-01-02 Thread Gnissman

Hello Jody,

Wednesday, January 02, 2002, 8:34:28 AM, you wrote:

JW   What I want is that if I have a message in my inbox (on the mail
JW   server) that is larger than 1meg to skip downloading it to the bat
JW   (I want to just leave it on the server).

Got to the Account  Properties (Shift+Ctrl+P), select Mail
Management and set the value at Receive headers only if message
size is greater than to 1024 kb.

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Re: Help with a filter ....

2002-01-02 Thread Thomas F

Hi Gnissman,

On Wed, 2 Jan 2002 09:16:16 +0100GMT (02/01/2002, 16:16 +0800GMT),
Gnissman wrote:

JW   (I want to just leave it on the server).

G Got to the Account  Properties (Shift+Ctrl+P), select Mail
G Management and set the value at Receive headers only if message
G size is greater than to 1024 kb.

Unfortunately, this deletes the message from the server after download
of the headers.

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Re[3]: Help with a filter ....

2002-01-02 Thread Gnissman


JW No, I want to get only get mail _smaller_ that 1meg. But thanks ... :)

But this is just what it does, isn't it? Let's say you receive a
normal textmessage at a size of approx 3000 kb. This would be
downloaded as usual.

But if there is a message exceeding the 1 meg, you would just get a
notification that there is a mail on you pop-server that is larger
than 1 meg.

So you only get mails that are _smaller_ than 1 meg

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Re[2]: Help with a filter ....

2002-01-02 Thread Gnissman

Hello Thomas,

Wednesday, January 02, 2002, 9:23:14 AM, you wrote:

TF Unfortunately, this deletes the message from the server after download
TF of the headers.

Actually they are not deleted but rather marked as read on the
server. If you want to receive them, use the Dispatcher included in TB
and set them as unread and receive again. Then you can download
them

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Re[3]: Help with a filter ....

2002-01-02 Thread Gnissman

Hello Jody,

Wednesday, January 02, 2002, 9:25:55 AM, you wrote:

JW No, I want to get only get mail _smaller_ that 1meg. But thanks ... :)

Me again... I think I just understood your problem. I noticed that the
text in the menu can be read and understood in two ways.

Receive headers only if size exceeds 1 meg could mean receive them
only if the size is greater. But it _does_ mean if the size is
greater, receive only the headers, not the message

HTH,
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Re: Help with a filter ....

2002-01-02 Thread Thomas F

Hi Gnissman,

On Wed, 2 Jan 2002 09:35:30 +0100GMT (02/01/2002, 16:35 +0800GMT),
Gnissman wrote:

TF Unfortunately, this deletes the message from the server after download
TF of the headers.

G Actually they are not deleted but rather marked as read on the
G server. If you want to receive them, use the Dispatcher included in TB
G and set them as unread and receive again. Then you can download
G them

Wow, this is good news - I didn't even know that this wish has become
reality! :-)  I will run some tests tonight and confirm. Do you know
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Re[3]: Help with a filter ....

2002-01-02 Thread Jernej Simoni

Hello Jody,

02. januar 2002, 9:25:55, you wrote:

JW No, I want to get only get mail _smaller_ that 1meg. But thanks ... :)

It says Receive *header only*, so you won't get the message :)

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Re[4]: Help with a filter ....

2002-01-02 Thread Jody Watts

E-Mail Message
~~
From: Gnissman
Date: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 at 2:41 AM
Subject:  Help with a filter 
_

G Hello Jody,

G Wednesday, January 02, 2002, 9:25:55 AM, you wrote:

JW No, I want to get only get mail _smaller_ that 1meg. But thanks ... :)

G Me again... I think I just understood your problem. I noticed that the
G text in the menu can be read and understood in two ways.

G Receive headers only if size exceeds 1 meg could mean receive them
G only if the size is greater. But it _does_ mean if the size is
G greater, receive only the headers, not the message

G HTH,
G Gniss




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Re: Help with a filter ....

2002-01-02 Thread Allie C Martin

In a message dated, Wed, 2 Jan 2002 10:00:44 +0100, Gnissman [G]
wrote:
...
TF Wow, this is good news - I didn't even know that this wish has
TF become reality! :-) I will run some tests tonight and confirm. Do
TF you know when this was changed?

G No, I am afraid I don't. I am only using TB for two days now, so I
G don't know how this was handled in prior versions.

It definitely used to delete the message.

I had to create some filters to not download these large messages and
yet be able to examine and download them with the dispatcher at a
later date.

Since this problem seems to be fixed, I can throw away the filters.
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Help with a filter ....

2002-01-01 Thread Jody Watts

tbudl,

  can someone tell me how to create this filter:

  What I want is that if I have a message in my inbox (on the mail
  server) that is larger than 1meg to skip downloading it to the bat
  (I want to just leave it on the server).

  TIA ...


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Re: help with 'sent' filter to multiple recipients

2001-07-09 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello Charlie,

Historians believe that Mon, 9 Jul 2001 at 19:34 GMT +1000 was when,
Charlie Laidlaw [CL] typed the following:

JA You could try:

JA String  Location Presence
JA ^To\:[^@\n]*[EMAIL PROTECTED][^@\n]*$Kludges  Yes

JA And enable Regular Expressions under the Options Tab.

CL it  works  perfectly!   cheers  mate,  thats very helpful.

CL i don't understand it, looks like gibberish to me; i assume it says
CL 'filter only if you see [EMAIL PROTECTED] alone'.  whatever, its good

I'm glad it works for you.  It works like this:

^   - Start at the beginning of each line.

To\:- Look for the word To followed by a colon

[^@\n]* - Find any number of any character other than the @ symbol or
  a line break. This is because if you had another address,
  it would have an @ symbol in it.  So if there is no other @
  symbol, there is only one address.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]  - The address you want.

[^@\n]* - Same as above.

$   - Keep going until the end of the line.


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help with 'sent' filter to multiple recipients

2001-07-01 Thread Charlie Laidlaw

Hello,

i have a few 'sent messages' filters set up.  However it is difficult
to find my sent message when i send it out to several recipients.
Someone gets it put in their own sent folder, as of course the Bat is
finding their address in the recipient string.

Is it possible to override that, and just have it go to the main
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Re: help with 'sent' filter to multiple recipients

2001-07-01 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello Charlie,

On Sunday, July 01, 2001 09:58:51 [ +1000 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to 'help with 'sent' filter to multiple
recipients':

Charlie Is it possible to override that, and just have it go to the main
Charlie 'sent' folder, when there are multiple recipients?

  Although I'm certainly no expert, it sounds to me like you ought
  to filter on your from address, i.e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] w/o
  worrying about the to: filter.

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Re: help with 'sent' filter to multiple recipients

2001-07-01 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello Charlie,

Historians believe that Mon, 2 Jul 2001 at 09:58 GMT +1000 was when,
Charlie Laidlaw [CL] typed the following:

CL Hello,

CL i have a few 'sent messages' filters set up.  However it is difficult
CL to find my sent message when i send it out to several recipients.
CL Someone gets it put in their own sent folder, as of course the Bat is
CL finding their address in the recipient string.

CL Is it possible to override that, and just have it go to the main
CL 'sent' folder, when there are multiple recipients?


You can try changing the filters to be slightly more specific.  I'm
assuming a given filter has the form:

String   LocationPresence
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Recipient   Yes

You could try:

String  Location Presence
^To\:[^@\n]*[EMAIL PROTECTED][^@\n]*$Kludges  Yes

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