Hi Bat Spamcop forwarding question
Hi, I'm Elwin, I just joined though I've already been using TB for quite some time. Like many folks here (I believe) I've switched from Pegasus to TB after Pegasus couldn't handle everything I'd like to do... Anyway, my question is this: when I autoforward messages I know to be spam to Spamcop, TB (1.53d, Win2000) usually ONLY sends the headers when I check Include full headers. I've tried about all settings in the filter action (forwarding, redirecting, with or without MIME) but it just won't work. Does this sound familiar, and is anybody doing this succesfully? Thanks, Elwin -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Hi Bat Spamcop forwarding question
It was foretold that on 12-1-2002 @ 17:25:22 GMT+0100 (which was 17:25 where I live) Elwin Oost wrote and spread these wise comments on Hi Bat Spamcop forwarding question: EO Anyway, my question is this: when I autoforward messages I know to be spam EO to Spamcop, TB (1.53d, Win2000) usually ONLY sends the headers when I EO check Include full headers. EO I've tried about all settings in the filter action (forwarding, EO redirecting, with or without MIME) but it just won't work. Does this sound EO familiar, and is anybody doing this succesfully? Elwin, i use a spam filter that works for me. I have set it up to work with yahoo (because i also have a yahoo account). Here's how to set it up: Create a new filter. Create a Spam folder in your account. Tell the filter to move the spam to this folder Filtering strings: X-YahooFilteredBulk: [Kludges] [yes] Now select the Actions tab and check: Marck the message as read (optional)[1] Forward to SpamCop [EMAIL PROTECTED] also check include kludges in text Now select the Options tab: In the Send generated message options area select Immediatly After a few minutes you will receive notice that your mail has been accepted for processing by spamcop. Follow the instructions in the mail. - -Very important! This filter must the first from the top in the - -filter list. [1] this should provide a hassle free antispam solution where spam goes in unseen, and TB handles it without distracting your attention - -- If it jams - force it. If it breaks, it needed replacing anyway. I got this solution from Silviu Cojocaru , who posted it on the Tech list. So far it does what claims to do I hope this helps. -- Best regards, Lucmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.53d on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Thought for the day : Beauty lies in the hands of the beer holder. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[3]: Hi Bat Spamcop forwarding question
It was foretold that on 12-1-2002 @ 18:28:42 GMT+0100 (which was 18:28 where I live) Elwin Oost wrote and spread these wise comments on Hi Bat Spamcop forwarding question: EO Unfortunately, the forwarded messages ONLY contain the headers (as I EO can see in the sent messages folder). This looks like a bug to me, but EO odd that it does work for you (as you are also using 1.53d)! Strange indeed Elwin. What happens for me is the following: i receive a mail from Spamcop that they have accepted my mail and provide a link for me. I click the link and go to the page where they have stored all the relevant data: message, ISP, IP adress,. That way they allow me to check if it indeed spam. I can then decide if they are allowed to mail the ISP's. It's a great service. I'm wondering why it doesn't work with you. Mind you, it's designed to work with yahoo. Yahoo provides a tool for the user to be able to filter spam on his own. So whenever their filters catch a spam mail, they put a label on it. If you use it with other accounts it might not work in absence of the label (just guessing here). -- Best regards, Lucmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.53d on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Thought for the day : Don't worry about the world ending today . . . It's already tomorrow in Australia. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Hi Bat Spamcop forwarding question
Hello Elwin. At 11:25 AM on Saturday, January 12, 2002 you wrote the following about [Hi Bat Spamcop forwarding question] Elwin my question is this: when I autoforward messages Elwin I know to be spam to Spamcop, TB (1.53d, Elwin Win2000) usually ONLY sends the headers when I Elwin check Include full headers. Elwin [...] Does this sound familiar, and is anybody Elwin doing this succesfully? This does sound familiar as I remember there were a few suggestions made (I think I made one of them which I thought worked). You might search the TBUDL archives as I don't recall the details @ this point. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.54 Beta/26/W2K_SP2/PGP Key ID: 0x3F14A060 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Hi and question from a list newbie
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: MD5 Hello TBUDL, There used to be instructions in the FAQ to configure The Bat! as a mailing list server, but they are gone. The link gets a 404 (page missing) error. Would anyone have these? Thanks, Rudy Willis - -- Best regards, Rudy mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6 iQDVAwUAPBJgpry+QJnZ0mOpAQHI+QX+KO4sCwd1C1+WgazuMDZx91jGemn1JnOK psPATkMWqdJse8GZjhEq7c4tXDCm6GolFz0EycFKOLjOkEkS+qaq/5E676e4hPml L94pRxRGvn+TYXsTQNDO5BCUufdtXQqgQdVbD1vF9NJKZm4nKFKKPjUZ/cAK4Aoa VlTs9rJlJMkw8gXPM8Hd3VRC6KP70+jtbvGvd3+WaPYTxOfKKhhPCg7hu6+5dWMT ElYSFEIhKQDlYTlqnnzHbtR/JhTNvB+4 =GnBz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Hi and question from a list newbie
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Rudy, On 08 December 2001 at 11:49:08 [GMT-0700] (which was 18:49 where I live) Rudy Willis wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points: RW There used to be instructions in the FAQ to configure The Bat! RW as a mailing list server, but they are gone. The link gets a RW 404 (page missing) error. My bad. I've now fixed the link on the FAQ. It should be pointing to: http://www.pcwize.com/tblh/faq.shtml - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator ~~~ \ BrainStorm - free thinking - www: http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / ' TB! v1.54 Beta/15-14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0.2195 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: GPG Sealed for freshness iD8DBQE8Em2cOeQkq5KdzaARAmjQAKDU2Rp+Ai8xFcJVk630biUx1dPlTwCg78y4 a/lZqNo+QNc+w/wiIkmJBaM= =D65d -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Reminders (was: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!)
Hi Allie, Historians believe that Sunday, September 2, 2001 at 08:36 GMT -0500 was when, Allie C Martin [AM] typed the following: AM I don't think it's really that complicated. AM I use the same command type file to send the greeting via TB!'s CLI AM support. The CLI commands are all documented in the help with examples. AM We'd be happy to help anyone who chooses that route. I have come up with a script that makes it even easier. Unfortunately, I can't post attachments to this list, so if you would like a copy (and didn't get it through TBTECH), send me a message at mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. I have set up an auto-responder to send the proper files. I don't leave TB on 24/7, so it may take a few hours to respond. Here is a basic outline of what the script does: 1. For each registered account, look in reminder folder 2. If there are any expired messages, they are moved to the outbox and the date information is stripped from the subject line. 3. Messages that haven't expired are kept in reminder folder. Once you've entered the account info, to schedule a post-dated message, all you have to do is enter the date in the subject line and move the message into the reminder folder. By running the script from the Windows Scheduler, you can have it send old messages at your scheduling. The script is a VBScript using elements from Windows Scripting Host. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/8 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A Ok, who is General Relativity, and what did he do with Sir Newton? -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Thomas! On Monday, September 03, 2001 at 5:09:52 AM you wrote: Isn't this what the birthday reminder now already does? Except it is not using a birthday template but the AB template. But you can use a specific birthday template: Just create your personal QT for it. when the new message is opened, go into the body push Ctrl+A, type in your QT handle push Ctrl+Space and you are ready to go. Sounds much more time consuming and complicated than it really is. - -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/7 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient premises. (Samuel Butler) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element to Freedom! iQA/AwUBO5MaAvTo1oA8g8dLEQJNygCfdj9Uz23aQfUxHYpLfDaVvlNQSp0AoJQx uzvlTjD1IccqqwbVYoTinO5t =Xdla -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!
Hello Januk, Mitteilung vom Freitag, 31. August 2001, 20:09:57: JA Could you please explain what is this reminder feature? Perhaps JA there is a solution available. I think of a mail that I will write and save now but want sending deferred until a certain date and/or time (Eudora does this). Then, You can extend this idea to a recurring mail, e g. an invitation for the weekly meeting. JA Also, we should move this to the TBTECH list if we start trying to JA make a VBScript. -- Regards, Bernhard Kohl -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!
Hallo Dierk, Mitteilung vom Freitag, 31. August 2001, 16:19:34: DH the more users there are the more wishes will be uttered. And to be DH sure, some of these will be sensible, others debatable, and some pure DH nonsense. DH Need an example? Look at the new HTML viewer - when the memory problem DH is solved I will surely use it, because it offers some nice formatting DH options for reading. But there will also be, some day, the option to DH write HTML mails. some want it, I dread it. DH It is quite funny how often I have to tell people how to uncheck Send DH mail as HTML when they definitely don't need it for their mails. Just DH because they use OE. DH To summarize: You can't have everything, not even with MS (compare DH Paradox to Access, 1-2-3 to Excel, Papyrus to Word). I totally agree with you! And I really don't wont a jack of all trades. What I wrote was that any developer should carefully read where users feel uncomfortable with their software (and I assume Ritlabs will do so). Therafter, they can discard any of this ideas, of course, if they think that the wanted feature doesn't fit their program. -- Regards, Bernhard Kohl -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!
Hello Thomas, Personally I don't agree, I think it would be pretty difficult to identify which emails were from a template and which weren't. How many birthday cards have you received or sent which say something like 'Dear X, Happy Birthday (some nice generic birthday text - cookie could be used here) Lots of love Y'. A template could be used here with no offense and could spread a little love in the world :) Perhaps ideally it opens pre-defined and you can then edit the body in this situation. VV (Thomas this example's for you ;-) VV I was thinking last night about this, birthdays are fine but if we look at this feature as a 'reminder' thing then the need becomes apparent. I think this feature could be very useful if added to 'groups'. That way if you have a group of friends who want to be reminded of certain things they can join the group. Ideally then the group would need to have reminder 'dates' rather than one date. In this way if you have a group of friends who want to be reminded which pub and what time to watch England's defeat of Germany in the football World Cup Qualifiers (it was 5:1 btw) this can be done and equally if they want to be reminded to watch every match with times this can be done too. Here a template would be very useful. So in terms of features to suggest:- Feature: Reminder Mails (let's call it a reminder rather than birthday) 1) Individuals - template definition possible. - option to edit the created email before it's sent. - option to open just a blank email. - multiple reminders possible. - option to gently remind thomas of the football result last night :) 2) Groups - template definition possible. - option to edit the created email before it's sent. - option to open just a blank email. - multiple reminders possible. thoughts? -- Best regards, ::Andrew::mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] London UK http://at.omic.co.uk Using The Bat! 1.53d on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reminders (was: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!)
Hello ::Andrew::, On Sun, 2 Sep 2001 10:03:16 +0100 GMT (02/09/2001, 17:03 +0800 GMT), ::Andrew:: wrote: A Personally I don't agree, I think it would be pretty difficult to A identify which emails were from a template and which weren't. That's worse. I believe you just sent me birthday wishes, but in fact it was your computer? No thanks. It may be a matter of personal taste nowadays, though. Some people might prefer a computer-generated greeting than none at all. At least his his computer loves me. Better than noone. A A template could be used here with no offense and could spread a A little love in the world :) Right. I will advise you of the birthday of my computer, so your computer can spread a little love to mine. :-) A So in terms of features to suggest:- A Feature: Reminder Mails (let's call it a reminder rather than A birthday) I would offer this service for money to those people who don't know how to use the Windows Scheduler, and who don't want to use the myriad of secreterial services that already exist. Other than that, I see no reason to bloat my favourite mailer with such [censored]. A thoughts? None. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I got into the gene pool while the lifeguard wasn't watching. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Reminders (was: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Thomas, On Sun, 2 Sep 2001 17:52:53 +0800, you wrote these words of wisdom: ... TF I would offer this service for money to those people who don't know TF how to use the Windows Scheduler, and who don't want to use the TF myriad of secreterial services that already exist. Other than that, TF I see no reason to bloat my favourite mailer with such [censored]. Note that the monthly list charters are sent using a CLI command and Marck's system scheduler. You can create your birthday message template, write the CLI command in a text file naming it a .cmd file and making it system scheduler run it on the various birthdays. The functionality is already there. - -- ©Allie C Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) PGP public key: http://pgpkey.ac-martin.com __ MUA: The Bat! 1.54 Beta/7 [OS: Windows 2000 Service Pack 2] _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Sealed for security. iEYEARECAAYFAjuSHDUACgkQV8nrYCsHF+KAqACgrzjE10Vv5a1EhhlaL+i8ouEV vMUAnAvvT2ucuEj/1XmrrLhyEx62MbIE =rXGA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[3]: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!
Hello ::Andrew::, Sunday, September 02, 2001, 12:03:16 PM, you wrote: A Feature: Reminder Mails (let's call it a reminder rather than A birthday) A 1) Individuals A - template definition possible. A - option to edit the created email before it's sent. A - option to open just a blank email. A - multiple reminders possible. A - option to gently remind thomas of the football result last night :) A 2) Groups A - template definition possible. A - option to edit the created email before it's sent. A - option to open just a blank email. A - multiple reminders possible. A thoughts? I think it's kind of skins in programmes like WinAmp or personalized menu in Win(Office)2K. You try to be as personal as possible but what's personal in templates? By the way, sometimes change something in templates takes a lot more efforts than to create from scratch. As for reminders themselves. I receive them from my friends and very often they sound like 'do you know that ...' because of the style they're written. In this way they're absolutely useless and I hate it. -- Best regards, Sergey Kovalyov Kiev, Ukraine mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello ::Andrew::! On Saturday, September 01, 2001 at 4:27:03 PM you wrote: I found the birthday tick-box in the address book but do you need to personalise the email here or does it just pop-up automatically on the date so you then write something? tick the box and you can enter the birthday. On the specific day, when you start TB! a window will appear and tell you that somone has its birthday. If you want to write a mail, click OK and TB! opens a new mail with the appropriate template (for the person, folder or account) and you can write on. If you want a birthday template (and I concur with the sentiments of Thomas and Karin) just make a QT and insert that the usual way. - -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/7 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Give people more than they expect and do it cheerfully. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element to Freedom! iQA/AwUBO5IYwfTo1oA8g8dLEQI46gCgvzJvwSGZwlj2Pu+zQCPFmEV8nS8An1J7 +oIRP3027JYGKaYPIUNoEdOF =JPo3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[4]: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!
Hello Sergey, Sunday, September 02, 2001, 1:01:37 PM, you wrote: SK Hello ::Andrew::, SK Sunday, September 02, 2001, 12:03:16 PM, you wrote: A Feature: Reminder Mails (let's call it a reminder rather than A birthday) A 1) Individuals A - template definition possible. A - option to edit the created email before it's sent. A - option to open just a blank email. A - multiple reminders possible. A - option to gently remind thomas of the football result last night :) A 2) Groups A - template definition possible. A - option to edit the created email before it's sent. A - option to open just a blank email. A - multiple reminders possible. A thoughts? SK I think it's kind of skins in programmes like WinAmp or personalized SK menu in Win(Office)2K. You try to be as personal as possible but SK what's personal in templates? SK By the way, sometimes change something in templates takes a lot more SK efforts than to create from scratch. SK As for reminders themselves. I receive them from my friends and very SK often they sound like 'do you know that ...' because of the style SK they're written. In this way they're absolutely useless and I hate it. That's more a question of how a template is written not the technology. But a reminder doesn't need to be for friends it could equally be for business or other purposes. -- Best regards, ::Andrew::mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] London UK http://at.omic.co.uk Using The Bat! 1.53d on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Reminders (was: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!)
Hello Thomas, Sunday, September 02, 2001, 10:52:53 AM, you wrote: TF That's worse. I believe you just sent me birthday wishes, but in fact TF it was your computer? No thanks. That depends at which point you assume the wishes were sent. When everything was set-up by the user or when TB is triggered to send. It's the same situation as when someone books flowers for an anniversary in advance or even for several years in advance. But we're getting no where on this thread - to each their own. A Feature: Reminder Mails (let's call it a reminder rather than A birthday) TF I would offer this service for money to those people who don't know TF how to use the Windows Scheduler, and who don't want to use the myriad TF of secreterial services that already exist. Other than that, I see no TF reason to bloat my favourite mailer with such [censored]. interesting, in your first mail on this subject you said 'You mean automated sending of emails, or writing an email now which needs to be sent at a later date? This could be very useful,'. Bit of an abrupt change of opinion. Sorry if my comments about the football annoyed you, it's just we're so used to loosing to Germany at crucial moments, to win so conclusively was an opportunity not to be missed ;-) Andrew -- Best regards, ::Andrew::mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] London UK http://at.omic.co.uk Using The Bat! 1.53d on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Reminders (was: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!)
Hello Allie, Sunday, September 02, 2001, 12:47:00 PM, you wrote: ACM Note that the monthly list charters are sent using a CLI command and ACM Marck's system scheduler. ACM You can create your birthday message template, write the CLI command in ACM a text file naming it a .cmd file and making it system scheduler run it ACM on the various birthdays. ACM The functionality is already there. Yes the monthly list charters are another good example of how this could be used. The problem is that this is probably the sort of feature which a new user might find useful and the above mothod might be a bit too complicated for them. I understand that Becky! has this functionality built in. -- Best regards, ::Andrew::mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] London UK http://at.omic.co.uk Using The Bat! 1.53d on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Reminders (was: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi ::Andrew::, On Sun, 2 Sep 2001 13:49:02 +0100, you graced us with these comments: ... A Yes the monthly list charters are another good example of how this A could be used. The problem is that this is probably the sort of A feature which a new user might find useful and the above mothod might A be a bit too complicated for them. I understand that Becky! has this A functionality built in. I don't think it's really that complicated. The other thing is that if you learn to use the system scheduler, it opens a host of possibilities. I don't use backup software for example. The system scheduler with some cmd command files does the job. I use the same command type file to send the greeting via TB!'s CLI support. The CLI commands are all documented in the help with examples. We'd be happy to help anyone who chooses that route. - -- ©Allie C Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) PGP public key: http://pgpkey.ac-martin.com __ MUA: The Bat! 1.54 Beta/7 [OS: Windows 2000 Service Pack 2] _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Sealed for security. iEYEARECAAYFAjuSNdsACgkQV8nrYCsHF+Jj9gCgvupg9iAD8S2kdpK7GPF8cNJX 6N0AoLO1xuKU6Yc3TXDvgDJs7/iDLneA =K6ZA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[3]: Reminders (was: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!)
On Sunday, September 02, 2001, 7:49:02 AM, ::Andrew:: wrote: Yes the monthly list charters are another good example of how this could be used. The problem is that this is probably the sort of feature which a new user might find useful and the above mothod might be a bit too complicated for them. I understand that Becky! has this functionality built in. There have been complaints on the beta list about the overhead for the RTF viewer, and desire to keep it tight. Having a special built in easy route to generate birthday cards seems like a lot more of a useless luxury to me. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/7 on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[4]: Reminders (was: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!)
Hello Dwight, Sunday, September 02, 2001, 3:58:34 PM, you wrote: DAC There have been complaints on the beta list about the overhead for the DAC RTF viewer, and desire to keep it tight. Having a special built in DAC easy route to generate birthday cards seems like a lot more of a DAC useless luxury to me. forget the birthday card bit, let's look at it just as a reminder feature. -- Best regards, ::Andrew::mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] London UK http://at.omic.co.uk Using The Bat! 1.53d on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Reminders (was: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!)
Hello SyP, Sunday, September 02, 2001, 4:32:19 PM, you wrote: S IMO this functionality should be provided via plugins (in TB V2), so S you have to download it only if you absolutely needed it. yeah that sounds ok -- Best regards, ::Andrew::mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] London UK http://at.omic.co.uk Using The Bat! 1.53d on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Reminders (was: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, September 02, 2001, at 02:52:53 AM PDT, Thomas F wrote: But first, ::Andrew:: wrote: A Personally I don't agree, I think it would be pretty difficult to A identify which emails were from a template and which weren't. And then Thomas replied: That's worse. I believe you just sent me birthday wishes, but in fact it was your computer? No thanks. It may be a matter of personal taste nowadays, though. Some people might prefer a computer-generated greeting than none at all. At least his his computer loves me. Better than noone. I agree with you Thomas. To see the enhanced version of this reply, please see my message with the same subject line in TBOT - to be sent shortly. Melissa - -- PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP_Keys_8Body=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP Personal Security 7.0.3 iQA/AwUBO5J/MY1W11L7BPLpEQKiDwCgy8GRWQLRWB2lUdIWEpxGEf1rsekAoORZ 4pOrV6CPc8uBcXoalo51mxGV =Ua44 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!
Hello ::Andrew:: On Sunday, September 02, 2001 you wrote: Personally I don't agree, I think it would be pretty difficult to identify which emails were from a template and which weren't. How many birthday cards have you received or sent which say something like 'Dear X, Happy Birthday (some nice generic birthday text - cookie could be used here) Lots of love Y'. A template could be used here with no offense and could spread a little love in the world :) Seconded. I think that a really good template with a lot of cookies would be good enough. I'd like TB! to do sth like this: X has a birthday today. You have created a message using a birthday template. Do you want to edit it now? I would love feature like this :-) regards, -- /\_/\ Always remember that you are unique. Just like everyone (~o o~) else... )'Y'( __ ( ) / *kocurek*Jacek Wojaczynski \ -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!
Hi Jacek, On Sun, 2 Sep 2001 12:32:05 +0200GMT (02/09/2001, 18:32 +0800GMT), Jacek Wojaczynski wrote: JW I'd like TB! to do sth like this: JW X has a birthday today. You have created a message JW using a birthday template. Do you want to edit it JW now? JW I would love feature like this :-) Isn't this what the birthday reminder now already does? Except it is not using a birthday template but the AB template. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53o under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!
Hello Dierk, Friday, August 31, 2001, 3:19:34 PM, you wrote: And after a quick look into Becky I like the idea to edit the mail on the fly in an extern editor. DH AFAIR from different sources, the use of an external editor will be DH implemented with v2. As will surely other wish list items. did i read that becky can do auto mail on certain dates, ie. email a friend on birthday? That seems pretty handy - would it be easy/possible to set-up in TB? -- Best regards, ::Andrew::mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://at.omic.co.uk Using The Bat! 1.53d on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!
On 01-09-2001 at 14:27, ::Andrew:: kindly wrote: did i read that becky can do auto mail on certain dates, ie. email a friend on birthday? That seems pretty handy - would it be easy/possible to set-up in TB? It's already implemented in TB. Go to your address book, pick a friend, go to the 'personal' tab and put in her/his birthday. TB will make a congrats mail at 00:00 of that day, or as soon as you open TB on that particular day. - K - -- True glory consists in doing what deserves to be written; in writing what deserves to be read; and in so living as to make the world happier and better for our living in it. - Pliny the Elder, Roman naturalist -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Karin! On Saturday, September 01, 2001 at 2:37:30 PM you wrote: It's already implemented in TB. Go to your address book, pick a friend, go to the 'personal' tab and put in her/his birthday. TB will make a congrats mail at 00:00 of that day, or as soon as you open TB on that particular day. Hmm, I just remember the reminder, in which you have to click OK. Not completely automatic ... ;-) - -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/7 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Bureaucrats do not change the course of the ship of state. They merely adjust the compass. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element to Freedom! iQA/AwUBO5E+zPTo1oA8g8dLEQKyqgCgwR7xNzPdZ1dbAy5O7l3Fue0IGkIAnjWE lpAiGBZdNhT4sPzboQkjo0+l =nN1/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!
Hello Dierk Haasis On Sunday, September 02, 2001 you wrote: [Birthday reminder...] Hmm, I just remember the reminder, in which you have to click OK. Not completely automatic ... ;-) I'd like it automatic! And of course it would be nice to have a special Birthday template for that. PS. Is it already on the wishlist? regards, -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, September 01, 2001, at 05:10:26 PM PDT, Jacek Wojaczynski wrote: I'd like it automatic! And of course it would be nice to have a special Birthday template for that. sarcasm Yes - as long as your birthday wishes will be sent automatically by a machine, you may as well add the personal touch that a nicely put together template can add. ;-) /sarcasm No matter how much I like email (a lot!), when it comes to wishing someone a happy birthday or other such personal greeting, I still prefer sending - and receiving - a hand written note via snail mail. Even a phone call is nice. Not *everything* must be automatic - just because it *can* be. Some things, in my opinion, still mean more when done manually. Just my two cents. Melissa - -- PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP_Keys_8Body=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP Personal Security 7.0.3 iQA/AwUBO5GENY1W11L7BPLpEQJs5QCg+VffzfEsNuUmv88PK6bOj2GIzJ4AoKI9 LphzyhKecM8i34d0z1FJ2A74 =fSvF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!
Hello Melissa, Sunday, September 02, 2001, 1:59:16 AM, you wrote: MR No matter how much I like email (a lot!), when it comes to wishing MR someone a happy birthday or other such personal greeting, I still MR prefer sending - and receiving - a hand written note via snail mail. MR Even a phone call is nice. Not *everything* must be automatic - just MR because it *can* be. Some things, in my opinion, still mean more when MR done manually. I take your point here but consider, we all have a lot of contacts suppliers, friends, family, etc etc some of these groups friends/family we'd like to send personal mails to (i hope) but some like suppliers we'd like them to know we're thinking of them (get those brownie points) but may not always be able to remember/have the time to write hole emails. In this latter, being able to template a reply and 'top and tail' with a personal note would be good. I'm pretty sure also that if implemented correctly this feature could be very useful in other scenario's than birthdays. In which case templating might be more useful. Andrew -- Best regards, ::Andrew::mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://at.omic.co.uk Using The Bat! 1.53d on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Andrew! On Friday, August 31, 2001 at 6:23:35 AM you wrote: See you back here when you figure out that Becky is not all that The Bat! is. I have tried many email clients, but nothing has ever topped The Bat! I haven't ever used Becky, so won't say anything on that point. But, maybe it caters his needs. If he needs only what Becky can offer, well, why should he use any other mailer. Actually I only wanted to ask one question: Why on earth do we talk with someone who isn't here anymore? And left with flimsy argumentation? To cite Herman's Hermits: Let bygones be bygones ... - -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/7 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C If all the world's economists were stretched end to end, they still would not reach a conclusion. (George Bernard Shaw) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element to Freedom! iQA/AwUBO48f2fTo1oA8g8dLEQK9QgCfaEaYngE0Uy/A3ZifqfnQk8/dl40An3DI wIUy6rQXrCzcPVWfxENiim/Q =CX+T -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!
Hey Dierk, My point was, and I think is still valid for others on this list, that The Bat! shouldn't be assessed on the weight of its BETA releases. I was in no way having a dig at Becky, I was merely pointing out that I see testing Beta software almost as a privilege that an individual can either take or leave, bug slagging The Bat! based on its beta code is unfair. Andrew. Friday, August 31, 2001, 4:25:44 PM, you wrote: DH -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- DH Hash: SHA1 DH Hello Andrew! DH On Friday, August 31, 2001 at 6:23:35 AM you wrote: See you back here when you figure out that Becky is not all that The Bat! is. I have tried many email clients, but nothing has ever topped The Bat! DH I haven't ever used Becky, so won't say anything on that point. But, DH maybe it caters his needs. If he needs only what Becky can offer, DH well, why should he use any other mailer. DH Actually I only wanted to ask one question: Why on earth do we talk DH with someone who isn't here anymore? And left with flimsy DH argumentation? DH To cite Herman's Hermits: Let bygones be bygones ... DH - -- DH Dierk Haasis DH http://www.Write4U.de DH PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys DH The Bat 1.54 Beta/7 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C DH If all the world's economists were stretched end to end, they still DH would not reach a conclusion. (George Bernard Shaw) DH -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- DH Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt DH Comment: Privacy is the core element to Freedom! DH iQA/AwUBO48f2fTo1oA8g8dLEQK9QgCfaEaYngE0Uy/A3ZifqfnQk8/dl40An3DI DH wIUy6rQXrCzcPVWfxENiim/Q DH =CX+T DH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!
Hello Thomas, Mitteilung vom Freitag, 31. August 2001, 06:03:39: ... TF Thanks for your crossposting without sensible contents, and for your TF lack of interest to discuss (and BTW this is a mailing list, not a TF newsgroup). Good riddance. Sorry, I disagree that there is no sensible content in Alexander's mail. He decided to skip to another mailer due to some features he prefers in Becky. So, it could be interesting to the developers what makes users feel uncomfortable with TB and enhance their product. After all they can discard these ideas or see that they already knew that but nevertheless they shouldn't ignore users wishes. Concretely there are two points Alexander thinks Becky is superior to TB: 1. Filters 2. Reminders I myself don't think that TB's filters are poor but who knows, maybe we can learn from Becky (or other mailers). And as to reminders they are on the TB's wishlist for a long, long time ... and I miss them a lot! (Maybe, me too will abandon TB very soon for the lack of reminders if I can't reasonably emulate them with a script and a scheduler. I hope I have not to change for I appreciate TB a lot). And after a quick look into Becky I like the idea to edit the mail on the fly in an extern editor. After all, I think that there was sense in Alexander's mail and I wish the developers read carefully how their customers feel! -- Regards, Bernhard Kohl -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!
Hello Andrew, Friday, August 31, 2001, 8:43:50 AM, Andrew Ferguson wrote: bug slagging The Bat! based on its beta code is unfair. But why this major bugs are not solved? How long we will wait for working auto-mailbox checking, multi-user working on multi-user windows. Mainly, nothing changed to good in TB! from half year. Rather to worse. Last time I've posted a bug report about TB! and WindowBlinds to TheBatTech mailing list. This mail never appeared on this. Is there a moderator who remove hard to answer mails??? I always say to my friends that TB! is the best client. But last time I'm afraid I'm not sure for this, now. Now TB! looks like hi-end regular expressions engine. But lost the way for exact mailer client. Best regards -- *** Michal Kozusznik *** MaXyM/PicSaintLoup *** *** music *** Taekwon-do *** *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** http://mops.uci.agh.edu.pl/~mxm_crd *** -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[3]: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!
Hello Andrew, I've always seen myself as a bit of a champion for TB! I've used it for about 3 years and it's always done the job for me. I've used it to create solutions in business as well as personal environs. But that said it's generally wise not to ignore other options so after this mail I went and got becky to see what he's fussing about. I can't really see what's so special about it. Perhaps it uses less memory and perhaps it's faster at searching mail boxes (couldn't really check either). But that if true comes at the price of less power and flexibility. [It's got a nice default mail arrival noise (how can we get that? note for Ritlabs we need several sounds for mail arrival - different filters - anyone got some good ones perhaps that's another mail.) ] Becky struck me as a rather simple mail client and i guess if that's what you need fine, for me though TB! just has so much more to offer. Andrew -- Best regards, andrewmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.53d on Windows 98 4.10 Build A http://at.omic.co.uk -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Michal, On Friday, August 31, 2001 at 10:32:05 +0200, Michal Kozusznik [MK] wrote concerning 'Bye Bye The Bat Say Hi to Becky!': MK But why this major bugs are not solved? What major bugs are you referring too? I don't encounter any major bugs in the latest beta. As soon as someone reports a bug for instance in the new HTML engine, the bug gets fixed in the new beta. So I don't see your point. Please correct me if I'm wrong. - -- Best regards, David ** VirusScan: MS Windows found. Delete? (Y/y) ** [TB! 1.54 Beta/7] [Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2] [Running on a Celeron 633@874 256 Mb RAM] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build 06 Comment: PGPKeys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_PGP_key iQA/AwUBO49OPlK9yf5+yp9NEQJwyQCglFiNdEo2mYWGq9BTDqH3tlomP+sAoOmC ZsbALVapqD/LNpe/fAGeJ4K9 =10aN -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Michal, On 31 August 2001 at 10:32:05 +0200 (which was 09:32 where I live) Michal Kozusznik wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points: bug slagging The Bat! based on its beta code is unfair. MK But why this major bugs are not solved? How long we will wait for MK working auto-mailbox checking, multi-user working on multi-user MK windows. Mainly, nothing changed to good in TB! from half year. Rather MK to worse. The development team is small and have pressures from many different directions. Most feature requests have been implemented after a while. Maybe your requests haven't reached the top of the pile or haven't enough support from other users. That doesn't stop TB from being *the* most advanced, capable and fast email client around for Win32 IMHO. MK Last time I've posted a bug report about TB! and WindowBlinds to MK TheBatTech mailing list. This mail never appeared on this. Is there a MK moderator who remove hard to answer mails??? moderator No. We post-moderate - i.e. we tell people off after posting outside of the rules. /moderator MK I always say to my friends that TB! is the best client. But last time MK I'm afraid I'm not sure for this, now. Now TB! looks like hi-end MK regular expressions engine. But lost the way for exact mailer client. I couldn't disagree more. Maybe a couple of the wishes you have haven't been fulfilled, but I think TB is still the best there is without them. And it's being continually improved. I can stick it in front of a novice and they say Hey, that's so much easier than OE. And yet there's macros, templates, quick templates, mass mailing, multi-account, multi-user, a *very* comprehensive filtering system (I don't know why Alexander thinks it to be lacking, but that's his prerogative) and regular expressions. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user ~~~ \ BrainStorm - free thinking - www: http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / TB! v1.54 Beta/7-14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: GPG Sealed for freshness iD8DBQE7j10HOeQkq5KdzaARAu1WAJ9rN10URXaWvwHVuvyGcG+UcHGMhACgrkUN KJkak1je+iyg42DzZp1cVxY= =ULAm -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!
Hello David, Friday, August 31, 2001, 11:43:39 AM, David van Zuijlekom wrote: What major bugs are you referring too? I just wrote about. HTML interpreter is not important for me. But multi-user mode working correctly on multi-user Win98 machines is. Some time ago i was be able to push my boss to buy TB! for a lot of comps. This bug caused this transaction was not realized. TB! still badly works with CSAPI '97. This bug is known as well but the guilt is pushed to CSAPI. Don't know. Maybe that CSAPI is bugged but other progs work with it without problems. I can't ask my boss for buying Office2000 for TB! compatibility. TB! now is unable to check mailboxes in defined time period. It was referred on this mailing list by some people - without any response! Is it not enough? These problems occurred really long time ago. Why these are not solved yet? Best regards -- *** Michal Kozusznik *** MaXyM/PicSaintLoup *** *** music *** Taekwon-do *** *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** http://mops.uci.agh.edu.pl/~mxm_crd *** -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!
Hello Marck, Friday, August 31, 2001, 11:46:46 AM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: Maybe a couple of the wishes you have haven't been fulfilled, but I think TB is still the best there is without them. Yes. I think TB! is the best. But It has some bugs often apears working with it. I have no wishes for new features or other stars from the sky. I wan't my favourite mail client be without screw my minds errors. (Like autochecking mail - now I've wrote about in 3 or 4 mails this day ;-) Do you accepting this bug in daily work? Best regards -- *** Michal Kozusznik *** MaXyM/PicSaintLoup *** *** music *** Taekwon-do *** *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** http://mops.uci.agh.edu.pl/~mxm_crd *** -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Michal, On Friday, August 31, 2001 at 11:56:56 +0200, Michal Kozusznik [MK] wrote concerning 'Bye Bye The Bat Say Hi to Becky!': What major bugs are you referring too? MK HTML interpreter is not important for me. For me neither. MK But multi-user mode working correctly on multi-user Win98 machines MK is. I don't have much experience with multi-user running TB! but what exactly isn't working? MK TB! still badly works with CSAPI '97. What is CSAPI '97? MK TB! now is unable to check mailboxes in defined time period. It MK was referred on this mailing list by some people - without any MK response! Maybe because it couldn't be reproduced? I don't know but it's working for me. It checks my mailboxes every two minutes without problems. MK Is it not enough? These problems occurred really long time ago. MK Why these are not solved yet? Don't know. Maybe a low priority? - -- Best regards, David ** This Virus requires Microsoft Windows. ** [TB! 1.54 Beta/7] [Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2] [Running on a Celeron 633@874 256 Mb RAM] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build 06 Comment: PGPKeys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_PGP_key iQA/AwUBO49VUlK9yf5+yp9NEQJMIwCg2bCyq17byYgC0tjqpFsDDEN9jlAAoK8v fPMbTmYesM6rCYA6CzxJUcLq =/V54 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!
Hello David, Friday, August 31, 2001, 12:13:50 PM, David van Zuijlekom wrote: I don't have much experience with multi-user running TB! but what exactly isn't working? Explained in other post I just have written What is CSAPI '97? I used the short: CSAPI installed with M$ Office97 Maybe because it couldn't be reproduced? I don't know but it's working for me. It checks my mailboxes every two minutes without problems. Maybe not reproduced but reported by some persons. Don't know. Maybe a low priority? Sorry. So don't be disappointed when some peoples leaves TB! for another mailer Best regards -- *** Michal Kozusznik *** MaXyM/PicSaintLoup *** *** music *** Taekwon-do *** *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** http://mops.uci.agh.edu.pl/~mxm_crd *** -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Michal, On 31 August 2001 at 12:05:13 +0200 (which was 11:05 where I live) Michal Kozusznik wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points: MK Yes. I think TB! is the best. But It has some bugs often MK apears working with it. I have no wishes for new features or other MK stars from the sky. I wan't my favourite mail client be without MK screw my minds errors. (Like autochecking mail - now I've wrote MK about in 3 or 4 mails this day ;-) Do you accepting this bug in MK daily work? No I wouldn't. If I experience such a problem I would make sure I supplied enough evidence and information about how to reproduce the problem so that the programmers working on it could fix it. You have mentioned this problem before but, until you have provided enough information to allow the problem to be reproduced there's no way on earth that it *can* be fixed. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user ~~~ \ BrainStorm - free thinking - www: http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / TB! v1.54 Beta/7-14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: GPG Sealed for freshness iD8DBQE7j27XOeQkq5KdzaARAlGXAJ4yDUfXLLrC4rwQ+jz6waaOKVu6IACfTdt5 obpod5NH4gp+ZgkvY9dda4o= =UQ0n -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!
Hello Marck, Friday, August 31, 2001, 1:02:46 PM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: You have mentioned this problem before but, until you have provided enough information to allow the problem to be reproduced there's no way on earth that it *can* be fixed. I agree with you. I know how programers work. And I try to give him full report as possible. And I did this. But without any result. Best regards -- *** Michal Kozusznik *** MaXyM/PicSaintLoup *** *** music *** Taekwon-do *** *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** http://mops.uci.agh.edu.pl/~mxm_crd *** -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Michal, On Fri, 31 Aug 2001 12:05:13 +0200, you thoughtfully wrote the following: ... MK Yes. I think TB! is the best. But It has some bugs often MK apears working with it. I have no wishes for new features or other MK stars from the sky. I wan't my favourite mail client be without MK screw my minds errors. (Like autochecking mail - now I've wrote MK about in 3 or 4 mails this day ;-) Do you accepting this bug in MK daily work? This is a curious problem which I've never had, even when I have each account setup to retrieve mail at different intervals. I have a feeling that the developers are very likely having a problem with reproducing the buggy behaviour and they will have a dickens of a time trying to fix a problem they can't reproduce. It could very well be an application interaction underway and this is why it only affects some systems. PS// as to WindowBlinds. Because of how that application works, it may very well not work well with many applications and this is why it comes with an exclusion list. If TB! isn't working with WindowBlinds, add it to your WB exclusion list. It's now up to the WindowBlinds developers to fix this. - -- ©Allie C Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) PGP public key: http://pgpkey.ac-martin.com __ MUA: The Bat! 1.54 Beta/7 [OS: Windows 2000 Service Pack 2] _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Sealed for security. iEYEARECAAYFAjuPdTEACgkQV8nrYCsHF+IcjgCg3krE1Nbgq9utG2Dc/1sklucO IfkAoPU0anmqDfrfevmUu5WOoDNKp9m8 =/VFa -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!
On Friday, August 31, 2001, 13:02:46, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: No I wouldn't. If I experience such a problem I would make sure I supplied enough evidence and information about how to reproduce the problem so that the programmers working on it could fix it. That seems to be the problem. I have the same problem here but haven't got the slightest clue as to what makes it happen. I had it for quite a while when I installed 1.53o, which made it work again. Then after about 10 days it quit functioning again. I have _no_ idea why. Regards, Roman -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Roman, On 31 August 2001 at 14:01:47 +0200 (which was 13:01 where I live) Roman wrote to Marck D Pearlstone and made these points: R Then after about 10 days it quit functioning again. I have _no_ R idea why. Is there anything in the account log? Do you have access to the server logs to see if the server can shed some light? - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user ~~~ \ BrainStorm - free thinking - www: http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / TB! v1.54 Beta/7-14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: GPG Sealed for freshness iD8DBQE7j4DWOeQkq5KdzaARAhJTAJ97wafNpOotFAtacf6Drofg90wI5gCgo5SG BHAv7rtPh7Fc5NVmAKG89fk= =uB4H -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Multii-users (was: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!)
On 31-08-2001 at 11:56, Michal Kozusznik kindly wrote: Friday, August 31, 2001, 11:43:39 AM, David van Zuijlekom wrote: What major bugs are you referring too? I just wrote about. HTML interpreter is not important for me. But multi-user mode working correctly on multi-user Win98 machines is. Considering that it's not difficult to get TB working for different users under WinNT, I'm not quite sure why you would claim that setting up TB for mult-users under Win98 is not possible. - K - -- In ant arithmetic, there are only two numbers: Zero, which means anything less than a million, and Some. - Neil Stephenson: The Diamond Age -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Multii-users (was: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!)
Hello Karin, Friday, August 31, 2001, 3:05:33 PM, Karin Spaink wrote: I'm not quite sure why you would claim that setting up TB for mult-users under Win98 is not possible. Because I've tried! And as I said: the problem apears specially when the Groups are used. With single accounts it's OK. Best regards -- *** Michal Kozusznik *** MaXyM/PicSaintLoup *** *** music *** Taekwon-do *** *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** http://mops.uci.agh.edu.pl/~mxm_crd *** -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Bernhard! On Friday, August 31, 2001 at 10:29:44 AM you wrote: And after a quick look into Becky I like the idea to edit the mail on the fly in an extern editor. AFAIR from different sources, the use of an external editor will be implemented with v2. As will surely other wish list items. the more users there are the more wishes will be uttered. And to be sure, some of these will be sensible, others debatable, and some pure nonsense. Need an example? Look at the new HTML viewer - when the memory problem is solved I will surely use it, because it offers some nice formatting options for reading. But there will also be, some day, the option to write HTML mails. some want it, I dread it. It is quite funny how often I have to tell people how to uncheck Send mail as HTML when they definitely don't need it for their mails. Just because they use OE. To summarize: You can't have everything, not even with MS (compare Paradox to Access, 1-2-3 to Excel, Papyrus to Word). - -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/7 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Doing something with your own hands is *not* creativity; or masturbation is an artform everybody would be excelling in. (Derek Leveret) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element to Freedom! iQA/AwUBO4+O5/To1oA8g8dLEQLfAACg9iZLXWAN3x2PV4BZmQ5fybprCfQAoJWK CGuqdWGqKN6GDPuT/pIOwnQU =JVDr -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!
I have been a faithful TB user for over a year. However, the last betas were more than disappointing. Bugs over bugs. And the essential missing features were still not fixed or implemented (did someone say true IMAP4 support?). Another major complain of mine is the increase in memory usage. TB also feels more and more like a slow old animal, that needs its time to browse through my folders with hundreds of mails. Now... has anyone tried Becky! V2.x?! I did, and I must say, that this is a wonderful little gem. It does everything TB should do (excluding the TB macro features, which I virtually never use)...and it does it without screaming or bugging or crashing my PC. Just have a look at its filter technique, and you will feel really tired of using TB's filters again. Anyways, I say bye to this newsgroup for I am not any longer a TB user. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!
Hi Alexander, On Thu, 30 Aug 2001 22:24:39 +0200GMT (31/08/2001, 04:24 +0800GMT), Alexander Turcic wrote: AT Anyways, I say bye to this newsgroup for I am not any longer a TB user. Thanks for your crossposting without sensible contents, and for your lack of interest to discuss (and BTW this is a mailing list, not a newsgroup). Good riddance. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53o under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!
Hey Alexander, How on earth can you base your decision to dump The Bat! on the quality and stability of it's BETAs??? Beta releases are announced as buggy and usually come with a disclaimer stating that they are far from perfect. If you are not prepared to put up with buggy software that is still in development, then don't use beta software. That The Bat! is a dog based on its betas is a lame point of view to take. Go back to the stable release. See you back here when you figure out that Becky is not all that The Bat! is. I have tried many email clients, but nothing has ever topped The Bat! Andrew. Friday, August 31, 2001, 6:24:39 AM, you wrote: AT I have been a faithful TB user for over a year. However, the last betas AT were more than disappointing. Bugs over bugs. And the essential missing AT features were still not fixed or implemented (did someone say true IMAP4 AT support?). Another major complain of mine is the increase in memory AT usage. TB also feels more and more like a slow old animal, that needs AT its time to browse through my folders with hundreds of mails. AT Now... has anyone tried Becky! V2.x?! I did, and I must say, that this AT is a wonderful little gem. It does everything TB should do (excluding AT the TB macro features, which I virtually never use)...and it does it AT without screaming or bugging or crashing my PC. Just have a look at its AT filter technique, and you will feel really tired of using TB's filters AT again. AT Anyways, I say bye to this newsgroup for I am not any longer a TB user. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!
Hi All, On Fri, 31 Aug 2001 at 14:23:35 GMT +1000 (8/31/2001 11:23 AM GMT +0700 where you think I live) Andrew Ferguson=[AF]typed the following : [...] See you back here when you figure out that Becky is not all that The Bat! is. I have tried many email clients, but nothing has ever topped The Bat! I did in the past, so he will be follower of mine G -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.dutaint.co.id / http://www.dutaint.com Flying with The Bat! 1.53o under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
hi
Hello list, i have a few questions regarding the smartcard support in the bat: 1. does the bat support smartcards in newer versions at all or is this feature canceled ? 2. which card readers does the bat support (i use chipdrive from http://www.towitoko.de) 3. which smartcards do i need ? where can i buy them or is it possible to build it out of some ic s and a pcb (for testing purposes) i would be very pleased if somebody can help me in this ... -- Best regards, sven mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Hi!!!
Olá TBUDL, Hi guys!!! I'm talking from Brazil, and I'm new on this list, hope help and be helped too. See you soon. Sincerly, this is the BEST e-mail program that I ever seen. Best Regards, Viktor Mota mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Hi!!!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 23 Aug 2000 15:04:55 -0300, Viktor Mota wrote: VM I'm talking from Brazil, and I'm new on this list, hope help and be VM helped too. See you soon. A warm welcome Viktor. You will indeed find this group to be helpful and look forward to your participation. VM Sincerly, this is the BEST e-mail program that I ever seen. Same here and I keep checking the others available. :-) - -- - -=A. Curtis Martin=- Using TB! v1.46 Beta/3 «» Win2k Pro SP1 Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "Proofread carefully to see if you any words out. " -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.3 Comment: Included for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOaQhJPAXeSHuB5k3EQICxgCg/en743RtRqI/NxNSar9bWxm1VLEAoJ4T Y/K2N3ZfJEQkkqGbCMgLNZqK =b3EW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Hi!!!
Hello Viktor, August 23, 2000, 1:04:55 PM, you wrote: VMSincerly, this is the BEST e-mail program that I ever seen. VM Best Regards, VM Viktor Mota VM mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have to agree, the group here is extremely helpful and very good in explaining things. Welcome aboard ;) -- Sincerely, Dean The Bat1.46 Beta/3 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Hi!!!
Hi Viktor, On Wednesday 23/08/2000 at 19:04, you wrote: I'm talking from Brazil, and I'm new on this list, hope help and be helped too. See you soon. Sincerly, this is the BEST e-mail program that I ever seen. It is indeed :) Welcome aboard - grab some asbestos underwear and take a seat. (Just kidding, we're all friendly really!) -- Deryk Lister || ICQ 25869912 || www.deryk.co.uk "..." -- Cid, after feeding him a fish PGP: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=Retr%20PGP%20Key Any of my keys _under_ 3072 bit (usually on keyservers) don't work. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Hi
Hi Steve Lamb, On Donnerstag, 9. Dezember 1999 at 23:30:47 you wrote: SL Thursday, December 09, 1999, 2:17:16 PM, Alexander wrote: Sometimes.:-)) Hey, Steve, are you still here? SL No. *LOL Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Hi
Hallo Przemyslaw, On Thursday, December 09, 1999, 5:40:27 AM (GMT+0800), Przemyslaw Adam Smiejek wrote: PAS I'm new here. My english is bad, but I love The Bat! so PAS I want to join this list. Welcome! -- Cheers, Thomas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.38 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366 Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Hi
Hello Przemyslaw, Your message from Wednesday, December 08, 1999, 22:40: Hi PAS I'm new here. My english is bad, but I love The Bat! so PAS I want to join this list. You are not alone (8^) Don't hesitate to put silly questions. There are cracks in the list but they have mercy with beginners. -- Best wishes, Bernhardmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 1.38 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Hi
Hi there! On 9 Dec 99, at 22:59, Bernhard Kaiser wrote about "Re: Hi": Hello Przemyslaw, Your message from Wednesday, December 08, 1999, 22:40: Hi PAS I'm new here. My english is bad, but I love The Bat! so PAS I want to join this list. You are not alone (8^) Don't hesitate to put silly questions. There are cracks in the list but they have mercy with beginners. Sometimes.:-)) Hey, Steve, are you still here? -- SY, Alex (St.Petersburg, Russia) http://mph.phys.spbu.ru/~akiselev --- Thought for the day: Life is what happens to you while you are making other plans. --- PGP public keys on keyservers: 0xA2194BF9 (RSA); 0x214135A2 (DH/DSS) fingerprints: F222 4AEF EC9F 5FA6 7515 910A 2429 9CB1 (RSA) A677 81C9 48CF 16D1 B589 9D33 E7D5 675F 2141 35A2 (DH/DSS) --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Hi
Thursday, December 09, 1999, 2:17:16 PM, Alexander wrote: Sometimes.:-)) Hey, Steve, are you still here? No. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Hi, and a few questions
Hello all, After a few days of setting up, I'm starting to get used to The Bat and decided it was a good time to join the mailing list. I have a couple of questions to start with: I'm using version 1.36, and I noticed from Betanews that version 1.38 beta 2 is out. I wonder if anyone would be kind enough to mail me a list of the changes between the versions? mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] if you can. Next question is to do with replying. I noticed that when you reply to another reply eg. RE: Subject it becomes RE[2]: Subject. I've never noticed the [2] in other email clients, and it seems to upset some mailing lists. Some of the lists I subscribe to strip all the headers including message references. It doesn't bother The Bat, but people always complain when my strange RE:[2] Subject starts a new thread in Outlook Express! I'm sure there's a good reason for this, but how do I switch it off? I'd prefer everything just to be RE:. If you can't, I'd like to see it in the next version :) Excellent work with TB so far! It's far better than Outlook Express :) -- Deryk Lister ICQ 25869912 http://www.cloudk.clara.co.uk -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Hi, and a few questions
Hi there! On 20 Nov 99, at 20:50, Deryk Lister wrote about "Hi, and a few questions": Next question is to do with replying. I noticed that when you reply to another reply eg. RE: Subject it becomes RE[2]: Subject. I've never noticed the [2] in other email clients, and it seems to upset some mailing lists. Some of the lists I subscribe to strip all the headers including message references. It doesn't bother The Bat, but people always complain when my strange RE:[2] Subject starts a new thread in Outlook Express! I'm sure there's a good reason for this, but how do I switch it off? I'd prefer everything just to be RE:. If you can't, I'd like to see it in the next version :) Add the %SINGLERE macro to your templates. Excellent work with TB so far! It's far better than Outlook Express :) Ask!:-) SY, Alex (St.Petersburg, Russia) -- Thought for the day: No armored car loaded with bags of money ever turned over and spilled its load in the street, in a good neighborhood. --- PGP public keys on keyservers: 0xA2194BF9 (RSA); 0x214135A2 (DH/DSS) fingerprints: F222 4AEF EC9F 5FA6 7515 910A 2429 9CB1 (RSA) A677 81C9 48CF 16D1 B589 9D33 E7D5 675F 2141 35A2 (DH/DSS) --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Hi, and a few questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hi Alexander, On Saturday 20/11/99 at 21:10, you wrote: Next question is to do with replying. I noticed that when you reply to another reply eg. RE: Subject it becomes RE[2]: Subject. Add the %SINGLERE macro to your templates. Excellent! I'm definitely increasingly impressed with the flexibility of this program :) Methinks I will register it soon... This post also serves as a test for PGP signature, so excuse the size :P - -- Best regards, Derykmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQCVAwUAODcU0F36okNJe+fZAQG3YQP/aJZzuJaoZiBpYFCOAsV6xRflHh/sC1RP E98GFr5rG6mw9B6ohQnNXv0eqEwoPiLuhGH2q2usdCFkA/1mbdeokZms/pm8OBvX EiW/j7+X8AfOxyFFvODlCAEGz0eKkB7F94Y9K/Tn1PF5IEpFO42HNoIaLQFieTvT 2Ngpi32YyXY= =hHJn -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Hi, and a few questions
This post also serves as a test for PGP signature, so excuse the size :P Ooh... it says that the signature is invalid... I also noticed one of the dashes in my text sig has turned into a space :-) After experimenting it seems to be a bug when you have 3 dashes before a sig. Deryk -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Hi, and a few questions
Hi all, Deryk Lister wrote: This post also serves as a test for PGP signature, so excuse the size :P Ooh... it says that the signature is invalid... I also noticed one of the dashes in my text sig has turned into a space :-) After experimenting it seems to be a bug when you have 3 dashes before a sig. If you place two dashes followed by a space before your signature as is done with my sig as well as that for the discussion list, your signature will not appear quoted when we create a reply to your message. Just thought I'd let you know this since you seem to wish to place three dashes which will serve no function other than cosmesis. Two dashes rather than three will be cosmetic as well as functional. :) -- Regards, -=Ali=- Tis better to have loved and lost than just to have lost. ** Using The Bat! v1.38 Beta/2 [-] Windows NT 4.0 (Service Pack 6) ** -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Hi, and a few questions
Hi there! On 20 Nov 99, at 21:48, Deryk Lister wrote about "Re: Hi, and a few questions": Ooh... it says that the signature is invalid... I also noticed one of the dashes in my text sig has turned into a space :-) After experimenting it seems to be a bug when you have 3 dashes before a sig. It's PGP that's doing it. PGP thinks that the line starting with dashes denotes either the start or the end of PGP block. Hence when encrypting a block containing such lines it does the necessry modification prior (I hope:-)) to encrypting/signing. For example, this: -- will become: - -- As for the invalid signature, try encrypting something with PGP itself (without The Bat!), then try to decrypt (check digital signature). Does this work? SY, Alex (St.Petersburg, Russia) -- Thought for the day: DOS=HIGH? I knew it was on something... --- PGP public keys on keyservers: 0xA2194BF9 (RSA); 0x214135A2 (DH/DSS) fingerprints: F222 4AEF EC9F 5FA6 7515 910A 2429 9CB1 (RSA) A677 81C9 48CF 16D1 B589 9D33 E7D5 675F 2141 35A2 (DH/DSS) --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Hi, and a few questions
Saturday, November 20, 1999, 3:37:50 PM, Deryk wrote: I thought there were 3, but the PGP put an extra one in :) In other words, I'm doing that already. Thanks for the tip though, it seems to be yet another interesting feature that's either undocumented or else well hidden G PGP escapes all strings that start with a - with a "- " so it knows it is not the end of the PGP signed block. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
