Re: Rogues Smilies (WAS: Re: Import from Outlook fails)

2004-07-06 Thread Alex Ezell
On Thursday, June 17, 2004, 11:31:37 AM, Dave wrote:

 Hello Leif,
 Thursday, June 17, 2004, 10:11:20 AM, you wrote:

 You know.. this rouges smileys thing has actually worked out better
 than I anticipated. I really, really like being able to put a face to
 a name immediately while reading a message.

 Yeah, it's pretty slick isn't it? Although it is quite disconcerting
 when I'm scanning messages  my own face pops out at me!

Sorry to pop up an old thread, but I am having a bit of trouble with
the Rogues smilies. I have the zip extracted into the /images
directory along with the pdsf.msl and the rogues.msl.

I seem to have Use smilies checked in the View/Edit properties. But
nothing seems to appear.

Any ideas what I am doing wrong?

BTW, I just added my pic to the gallery. :)

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Re: Rogues Smilies (WAS: Re: Import from Outlook fails)

2004-07-06 Thread Plan9
Tuesday, July 6, 2004, 3:43:51 PM, Alex wrote:

AE On Thursday, June 17, 2004, 11:31:37 AM, Dave wrote:

 Hello Leif,
 Thursday, June 17, 2004, 10:11:20 AM, you wrote:

 You know.. this rouges smileys thing has actually worked out better
 than I anticipated. I really, really like being able to put a face to
 a name immediately while reading a message.

 Yeah, it's pretty slick isn't it? Although it is quite disconcerting
 when I'm scanning messages  my own face pops out at me!

AE Sorry to pop up an old thread, but I am having a bit of trouble with
AE the Rogues smilies. I have the zip extracted into the /images
AE directory along with the pdsf.msl and the rogues.msl.
AE I seem to have Use smilies checked in the View/Edit properties. But
AE nothing seems to appear.

Since you are using 2.11.02 and not one of the later betas you must
edit the PDSF.msl to include items from the rogues and pcwsmiliys.
I've sent you a copy of my PDSF.msl by PM so you can see what needs to
be done.

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Re[2]: Rogues Smilies (WAS: Re: Import from Outlook fails)

2004-07-06 Thread Terry G. Munson
Hello Plan9,

Tuesday, July 6, 2004, 2:35:33 PM, you wrote:

 Since you are using 2.11.02 and not one of the later betas you must
 edit the PDSF.msl to include items from the rogues and pcwsmiliys.
 I've sent you a copy of my PDSF.msl by PM so you can see what needs
 to be done.

I would be interested in these changes also...if you don't mind? :-)

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Re: Rogues Smilies (WAS: Re: Import from Outlook fails)

2004-07-06 Thread Allie Martin
Plan9, [P] wrote:

 Since you are using 2.11.02 and not one of the later betas you must
 edit the PDSF.msl to include items from the rogues and pcwsmiliys.
 I've sent you a copy of my PDSF.msl by PM so you can see what needs to
 be done.

With each roguemoticon download, you get two files, i.e., pdsf2.msl
and rougues.msl.

For those using a non-beta, you can use only one msl file. The one to
use would be pdsf2.msl. It's already altered to include all the
roguemoticons as well as those normally provided with TB!. Delete
pdsf.msl and rougues.msl. Rename pdsf2.msl to pdsf.msl and you should
now be ready.

Don't forget to use the RTV and not the PTV when viewing mail

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Re[2]: Rogues Smilies (WAS: Re: Import from Outlook fails)

2004-07-06 Thread Terry G. Munson
Hello Allie,

Tuesday, July 6, 2004, 3:23:14 PM, you wrote:

 For those using a non-beta,

Thanks...works great now! :-)


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Re: Rogues Smilies (WAS: Re: Import from Outlook fails)

2004-07-06 Thread Plan9
Tuesday, July 6, 2004, 6:23:14 PM, Allie wrote:

AM With each roguemoticon download, you get two files, i.e., pdsf2.msl
AM and rougues.msl.
AM For those using a non-beta, you can use only one msl file. The one to
AM use would be pdsf2.msl. It's already altered to include all the
AM roguemoticons as well as those normally provided with TB!. Delete
AM pdsf.msl and rougues.msl. Rename pdsf2.msl to pdsf.msl and you should
AM now be ready.
AM Don't forget to use the RTV and not the PTV when viewing mail

An excellent way to deal with version 2.11.02 provided you do not want
to access smileys too.  In fact this is what I do and just append smiley
lines from pcwsmileys.msl to PDSF.msl

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Re[2]: Import from Outlook fails

2004-06-18 Thread Armin Mutscheller
Hello, everybody, and thanks for all your help! The cause of the
problem was in fact a different one: TB was registered as the default
mail client, and Outlook was not. Making Outlook the default mailer
fixes the problem. The import went rather smoothly then, with the
exception of two OLE errors (8004010F and 80040115) that subsequently
caused TB to crash. I was able to fix this by deleting the message,
using Outlook, that followed immediately after the last message the Bat was able to 
import in the
respective folder. Then I had to re-boot Windows because of the access
violation and was able to re-import the folder without any trouble.

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MW Hello Armin,

MW On 17 June 2004, 13:08 +0200 (12:08 local time) Armin Mutscheller [AM]
MW in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

AM I'm evaluating TB and would LOVE to use it as an alternative to Outlook,
AM but for some reason I'm unable to import existing Outlook folders and
AM messages. When I select an Outlook folder for import, TB starts working
AM really hard and displays a progress bar. It also creates the respective
AM folder structure in the file system, as well as in the Account pane, but
AM when the import is complete all of these folders remain empty. The
AM number of messages to import makes no difference. Apparently this
AM behaviour occurs only when an MS Exchange server is present. On another
AM system, with Outlook running as a stand-alone application, all Outlook
AM folders are imported properly.

MW I regularly migrate some of my work messages from Outlook to TB!
MW However, all my Outlook folders are held in a .pst file. Whilst this
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Import from Outlook fails

2004-06-17 Thread Armin Mutscheller
Hi, 

I'm evaluating TB and would LOVE to use it as an alternative to Outlook,
but for some reason I'm unable to import existing Outlook folders and
messages. When I select an Outlook folder for import, TB starts working
really hard and displays a progress bar. It also creates the respective
folder structure in the file system, as well as in the Account pane, but
when the import is complete all of these folders remain empty. The
number of messages to import makes no difference. Apparently this
behaviour occurs only when an MS Exchange server is present. On another
system, with Outlook running as a stand-alone application, all Outlook
folders are imported properly. 

Does anybody know what I can do about this? (Other than exporting 2 GB
of messages into a PST file)

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Re: Import from Outlook fails

2004-06-17 Thread Graham Dodd
Hello Armin,

Thursday, June 17, 2004, 1:08:39 PM, you wrote:

AM Hi, 

AM I'm evaluating TB and would LOVE to use it as an alternative to Outlook,
AM but for some reason I'm unable to import existing Outlook folders and
AM messages. When I select an Outlook folder for import, TB starts working
AM really hard and displays a progress bar. It also creates the respective
AM folder structure in the file system, as well as in the Account pane, but
AM when the import is complete all of these folders remain empty. The
AM number of messages to import makes no difference. Apparently this
AM behaviour occurs only when an MS Exchange server is present. On another
AM system, with Outlook running as a stand-alone application, all Outlook
AM folders are imported properly. 

AM Does anybody know what I can do about this? (Other than exporting 2 GB
AM of messages into a PST file)

AM Regards,
AM Armin 

I had the same problem, the only way is to first export from Outlook into
Outlook Express, then from Express into TB - this works :-)

You should have no problem importing the address book direct from Outlook

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Re: Import from Outlook fails

2004-06-17 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Thursday, June 17, 2004, 12:08:39 PM, Armin Mutscheller wrote:

 I'm evaluating TB and would LOVE to use it as an alternative to Outlook,
 but for some reason I'm unable to import existing Outlook folders and
 messages. When I select an Outlook folder for import, TB starts working
 really hard and displays a progress bar. It also creates the respective
 folder structure in the file system, as well as in the Account pane, but
 when the import is complete all of these folders remain empty. The
 number of messages to import makes no difference. Apparently this
 behaviour occurs only when an MS Exchange server is present. On another
 system, with Outlook running as a stand-alone application, all Outlook
 folders are imported properly.

What you could try is importing the data via Outlook Express.  It is
not as simple as a direct import, but the transfer between Outlook
and Outlook is painless.

I am not sure why there should be a problem with Exchange, but is
guess the problem is that the message storage if you are using Outlook
with Exchange is different, and messages and data are held on the
server, rather than locally.

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Re: Import from Outlook fails

2004-06-17 Thread Dave Gorman
Hello Graham,

Thursday, June 17, 2004, 9:58:32 AM, you wrote:

 You should have no problem importing the address book direct from Outlook

Just beware of a potential problem with the date format if you import
any dates/birthdays from the Outlook AB.

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Re: Import from Outlook fails

2004-06-17 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Dave,

Thursday, June 17, 2004, 9:09:21 AM, you wrote:
Dave Just beware of a potential problem with the date format if you
Dave import any dates/birthdays from the Outlook AB.

You know.. this rouges smileys thing has actually worked out better
than I anticipated. I really, really like being able to put a face to
a name immediately while reading a message.


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Rogues Smilies (WAS: Re: Import from Outlook fails)

2004-06-17 Thread Dave Gorman
Hello Leif,

Thursday, June 17, 2004, 10:11:20 AM, you wrote:

 You know.. this rouges smileys thing has actually worked out better
 than I anticipated. I really, really like being able to put a face to
 a name immediately while reading a message.

Yeah, it's pretty slick isn't it? Although it is quite disconcerting
when I'm scanning messages  my own face pops out at me!



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Re: Rogues Smilies (WAS: Re: Import from Outlook fails)

2004-06-17 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Dave,

Thursday, June 17, 2004, 9:31:37 AM, you wrote:
Dave Yeah, it's pretty slick isn't it? Although it is quite
Dave disconcerting when I'm scanning messages  my own face pops out
Dave at me!

Excellent point.

Vote time:

Should I include logic in my code that would omit your own smiley from
the Rogues.MSL when you click the box to create a new .ZIP file?

Meaning, when it creates the on-the-fly .ZIP file for you, the
Rogues.MSL won't have your specific information, but it will have
everyone elses.



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Re: Import from Outlook fails

2004-06-17 Thread Eric

LG Hello Dave,

LG Thursday, June 17, 2004, 9:09:21 AM, you wrote:

LG this rouges smileys thing has actually worked out
LG better than I anticipated. I really, really like being
LG able to put a face to a name immediately while reading
LG a message.

And how does one do that, please?

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Re: Rogues Smilies (WAS: Re: Import from Outlook fails)

2004-06-17 Thread Plan9
Thursday, June 17, 2004, 1:09:22 PM, Leif wrote:

LG Hello Dave,

LG Thursday, June 17, 2004, 9:31:37 AM, you wrote:
Dave Yeah, it's pretty slick isn't it? Although it is quite
Dave disconcerting when I'm scanning messages  my own face pops out
Dave at me!

LG Excellent point.

LG Vote time:

LG Should I include logic in my code that would omit your own smiley from
LG the Rogues.MSL when you click the box to create a new .ZIP file?

LG Meaning, when it creates the on-the-fly .ZIP file for you, the
LG Rogues.MSL won't have your specific information, but it will have
LG everyone elses.

Nope. Not worth the effort and adds one more straw to the logic
camel's back. If I do not want to see my face or someone else's I can
just edit the msl file and comment it out.

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Re[2]: Rogues Smilies (WAS: Re: Import from Outlook fails)

2004-06-17 Thread Maggie
Hello Leif,

LG Vote time:

LG Should I include logic in my code that would omit your own smiley from
LG the Rogues.MSL when you click the box to create a new .ZIP file?

Plan9 Nope. Not worth the effort and adds one more straw to the
Plan9 logic camel's back. If I do not want to see my face or
Plan9 someone else's I can just edit the msl file and comment it out.

I vote with Plan9.

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Re: Rogues Smilies (WAS: Re: Import from Outlook fails)

2004-06-17 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Maggie!

On Thursday, June 17, 2004, 1:22 PM, you wrote:

LG Should I include logic in my code that would omit your own smiley from
LG the Rogues.MSL when you click the box to create a new .ZIP file?

Plan9 Nope. Not worth the effort and adds one more straw to the
Plan9 logic camel's back. If I do not want to see my face or
Plan9 someone else's I can just edit the msl file and comment it out.

M I vote with Plan9.

I vote with Plan9 and Maggie.

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Re: Rogues Smilies (WAS: Re: Import from Outlook fails)

2004-06-17 Thread Michael Geyer
Hi Leif and list,

On Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 11:09:22 GMT -0600 (which was 19:09
where I live) Leif Gregory wrote (at least in parts) and made these
valuable points on the subject of Rogues Smilies (WAS: Re: Import
from Outlook fails):

 Should I include logic in my code that would omit your own smiley from
 the Rogues.MSL when you click the box to create a new .ZIP file?

It's not worth the effort. My mood changes  on and off. On days I
don't like me I can edit the msl file for myself ;-)

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Re: Rogues Smilies (WAS: Re: Import from Outlook fails)

2004-06-17 Thread Martin Webster
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Hello Mary,

On 17 June 2004, 13:26 -0500 (19:26 local time) Mary Bull [MB] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

LG Should I include logic in my code that would omit your own smiley from
LG the Rogues.MSL when you click the box to create a new .ZIP file?

Plan9 Nope. Not worth the effort and adds one more straw to the
Plan9 logic camel's back. If I do not want to see my face or
Plan9 someone else's I can just edit the msl file and comment it out.

M I vote with Plan9.

MB I vote with Plan9 and Maggie.

Ditto... 3 0 (I'm happy)


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Re: Rogues Smilies (WAS: Re: Import from Outlook fails)

2004-06-17 Thread Dave Gorman
Hello Leif,

Thursday, June 17, 2004, 12:09:22 PM, you wrote:

 Should I include logic in my code that would omit your own smiley from
 the Rogues.MSL when you click the box to create a new .ZIP file?

It seems unanimous, and I agree with everyone else that it just
wouldn't be worth the trouble. I have to look in the mirror every
morning anyway, so if that doesn't kill me, seeing my face in an email
probably won't either... ;)

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Re: Import from Outlook fails

2004-06-17 Thread Martin Webster
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Hello Armin,

On 17 June 2004, 13:08 +0200 (12:08 local time) Armin Mutscheller [AM]
in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

AM I'm evaluating TB and would LOVE to use it as an alternative to Outlook,
AM but for some reason I'm unable to import existing Outlook folders and
AM messages. When I select an Outlook folder for import, TB starts working
AM really hard and displays a progress bar. It also creates the respective
AM folder structure in the file system, as well as in the Account pane, but
AM when the import is complete all of these folders remain empty. The
AM number of messages to import makes no difference. Apparently this
AM behaviour occurs only when an MS Exchange server is present. On another
AM system, with Outlook running as a stand-alone application, all Outlook
AM folders are imported properly.

I regularly migrate some of my work messages from Outlook to TB!
However, all my Outlook folders are held in a .pst file. Whilst this
works well you are best advised to close other applications; the process
can be heavy on resources if you've a large .pst file.


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Re: Rogues Smilies (WAS: Re: Import from Outlook fails)

2004-06-17 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Dave,

Thursday, June 17, 2004, 12:51:57 PM, you wrote:
Dave It seems unanimous, and I agree with everyone else that it just
Dave wouldn't be worth the trouble. I have to look in the mirror
Dave every morning anyway, so if that doesn't kill me, seeing my face
Dave in an email probably won't either... ;)

No biggie to me.. It's really a piece of cake..

Within my while loop:

   If current login name != DB login name
  add line to Rogues.MSL


Simple.




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Re: Rogues Smilies (WAS: Re: Import from Outlook fails)

2004-06-17 Thread Dave Gorman
Hello Leif,

Thursday, June 17, 2004, 2:19:41 PM, you wrote:

 No biggie to me.. It's really a piece of cake..

 Within my while loop:

If current login name != DB login name
   add line to Rogues.MSL


I guess that's not so tough! It's up to you, really. I'm not too
concerned either way. It doesn't seem a simple if/then is too likely
to wreak havoc on the process.

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