Re: How to set a PGP key to encrypt to recipient in TB! ?

[MFPA]

Hi


On Monday 2 December 2013 at 3:41:53 AM, in
, Robert D. wrote:


>  I
> used to write to Melissa when such a foible met me ...
> 'how to get prompted by TB!' ?


When I started with TB! my recollection is that it automatically
picked whatever matching key was found first. Then I am convinced it
was changed in an upgrade to present the user with a list if there
were multiple matches; I don't think it was a setting the user could
affect. I'm sure I used to sometimes see this. But I just tested with
a couple of email addresses for which I have more than one key on my
keyring, and TB! didn't prompt me which key to use. In my very limited
test, TB! seemed to be automatically using the oldest key for
encryption and the newest key for signing. 

As far as I remember, it was unreliable and only sometimes offered me
the choice. But I don't recall hearing anybody say it had been changed
back to TB! picking one itself.


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Re: How to set a PGP key to encrypt to recipient in TB! ?

[Robert D.]

Hello MFPA,

Sunday, December 1, 2013, 7:36:05 AM, you wrote:

> Since you used the abbreviation "TB" (without an exclamation mark) I 
> have to ask if you were thinking of Thunderbird, where the Enigmail 
> add-on does provide such a setting ("per-recipient rules").

mensch-meier .. ur right! I used TB! back in the two's; had some wrangle
for a while with constant crashing and switched to TB (bird + enigmail)
and THAT may have been where I saw that ability.

Hoever, ur workaround is more than functional ... and no, I am not
presented with a selection choice when the email address has multi-keys
in the key-manager  .. I used to write to Melissa when such a foible met
me ... 'how to get prompted by TB!' ?



thanks a bunch for the reminders. I'll run thru the list and disable
such and such keys.


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Re: How to set a PGP key to encrypt to recipient in TB! ?

[MFPA]

Hi


On Sunday 1 December 2013 at 5:04:38 AM, in
, Robert D. wrote:


> It seems that way back "when", using early TB, I could
> set a certain openpgp key to be used per a particular
> recipient, ahead of time .. like in a New Message
> template in the AB ??? I can't recall. An help on this?

I've been using TB! since v2.x in 2004 and never been able to find a
setting, or even a workaround, to achieve this. I'm sure somebody will 
chime in if a newer TB! version than mine can do this.

Since you used the abbreviation "TB" (without an exclamation mark) I 
have to ask if you were thinking of Thunderbird, where the Enigmail 
add-on does provide such a setting ("per-recipient rules").



> For example, I have a friend who has a few Public keys,
> here in the keyring. I only want to use  certain one.

If several public keys have user-ids containing the email address to
which you are sending, TB! should be presenting you with a dialogue
box to choose one for encryption every time you send them an email.

If you want to always use the same one and not get that dialogue box, 
you could "disable" the others in GnuPG or PGP.

If the friend has several keys but does not have their email address
in any user-ids, in GnuPG you can create a group line naming the group
as the email address surrounded by angle-brackets and pointing to the 
key you want to use for encryption. (Some PGP versions have a way of 
achieving the same thing, some do not.)


> I'd like the $SIGNCOMPLETE  to make use of my
> preferences.  

I think it would be more sensible if they added this functionality to
%encryptcomplete, and the option of choosing which of the sender's
keys to use for signing to %signcomplete.

I think in the past there have been wish-list entries requesting such
a function (or/and an addressbook field to set the key to use).


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How to set a PGP key to encrypt to recipient in TB! ?

[Robert D.]

It seems that way back "when", using early TB, I could set a certain
openpgp key to be used per a particular recipient, ahead of time .. like
in a New Message template in the AB ???
I can't recall. An help on this?

For example, I have a friend who has a few Public keys, here in the
keyring. I only want to use  certain one. I'd like the $SIGNCOMPLETE  to
make use of my preferences.


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v5. key usage with v4. version

[RS (FEDARA)]

Hi All,

Might be interesting for some of you guys.
I  had  contact  RITLAB  if it's allowed to use v5. key with v4. TB! -
RITLAB update concerning the matter bellow:

v5.xx key is also valid for several last v4.xx, including v4.2.44.
Register your copy of The Bat! using it.


Successfully registered version 4.2.44.2 with a v5. licence key.
Now it's written that client is registered and valid up to v6.0.99.
Very nice of RITLAB to allow you to do that.

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Re: Key

[Jernej Simončič]

On Saturday, May 15, 2010, 14:51:33, Gunivortus Goos wrote:

> The question is: Where can I find the registration information there?

Look for an e-mail titled The Bat! v4 Registration.

Alternatively, you'll have to load the Registry hive - you'll find it
in C:\Documents and Settings\\ntuser.dat (or
C:\Users\\ntuser.dat). To do this, run Registry Editor
(Start -> Run -> regedit.exe), click on HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, then
select File -> Load hive, find ntuser.dat, choose a name under which
the hive will be loaded (eg. OldUser), then navigate to
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\Software\RIT\The Bat! and look for
RegistrationBlock on the right side. Copy that to
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat! on the new machine.

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Key

[Gunivortus Goos]

Hi,

my wife her computer stopped very suddenly working and was unrevivable.
She has a new PC now and wants again install her The Bat! Pro, but can't find 
the
paper on which her registration info was printed. However, I can open the old 
image
from her system partition.
The question is: Where can I find the registration information there?

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Wishlist item: ability to import PGP key from body of a signed message

[MFPA]

Hi


People sometimes send me openPGP keys pasted into the body of an 
email.

If the email is not signed, or if the sender appended the key block
after signing the rest of the message, the keys import by pressing the
"Import OpenPGP Public Key" button that TB! provides.

If the sender pastes the key into the body and then signs the message 
(PGP inline) it is not possible to import the key without pasting into 
a text editor and removing the extra  that is placed at
the beginning of the lines
-BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-
and
-END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-
when the message is signed.  

When the signature is verified, I would like to see a "PGP Verified" 
tab that showed the contents of the message without the 
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- line and signature block, with the 
 escapement removed from the beginning of lines, and with 
an option to honour the cut mark even though it may have lost its 
trailing space when the message was signed.

This would resolve the issue in the message subject and simplify
replying to openPGP signed messages. I know some of the above can be
achieved through use of macros, but it seems a neat solution to the
key importing issue.

I have posted a wishlist item at https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7919



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Re: PGP encrypted and signed message cannot be decrypted in TB! if you don't have sender's public key to check signature

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello MFPA,

On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 19:16:14 +0100 GMT (04/Sep/09, 1:16 AM +0700 GMT),
MFPA wrote:

M> You need your secret key to decrypt a message that somebody has
M> encrypted to your public key. You do not need their key to decrypt 
M> the message.

This is the part I misunderstood. Thanks.

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Re: PGP encrypted and signed message cannot be decrypted in TB! if you don't have sender's public key to check signature

[MFPA]

Hi

On Thursday 3 September 2009 at 4:03:02 PM, in
, Thomas Fernandez
wrote:



> I don't use PGP at the moment, but isn't it one of the
> points? I mean, you have to exchange public keys (or
> download them from the keyservers) in order to be able
> to decrypt and check the signature.

Sorry, I worded that badly. The behaviour I am questioning seems
peculiar to The Bat!. It is usually possible with PGP (or GPG) to
decrypt a message that is encrypted to your key, whether or not it
happens to also be signed and whether or not you have a key to check
the signature. TB! will not do this.


You need your secret key to sign a message.

Anybody needs your public key to check a signature that you made with 
your secret key.


You need somebody's public key to encrypt to them.  

You need your secret key to decrypt a message that somebody has
encrypted to your public key. You do not need their key to decrypt 
the message.



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Re: PGP encrypted and signed message cannot be decrypted in TB! if you don't have sender's public key to check signature

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello MFPA,

On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 12:02:21 +0100 GMT (03/Sep/09, 18:02 PM +0700 GMT),
MFPA wrote:


>> Can anybody confirm that a PGP encrypted and signed
>> message cannot be decrypted in TB! if you don't have
>> the sender's public key to check the signature?

I don't use PGP at the moment, but isn't it one of the points? I mean,
you have to exchange public keys (or download them from the
keyservers) in order to be able to decrypt and check the signature.

>> Also, if somebody pastes their key into a message body
>> and then  clearsigns the message, TB! will not import
>> the key to your keyring if the key is not already there
>> to check the signature?

I believe you need to issue a command to tell TB! to import the key.

M> Can anybody duplicate this?

M> Alternatively, does anybody observe different behaviour?

I cannot test it, but what you describe is what I would expect.

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Re: PGP encrypted and signed message cannot be decrypted in TB! if you don't have sender's public key to check signature

[MFPA]

Hi

On Saturday 29 August 2009 at 12:16:23 AM, in
, MFPA wrote:



> Can anybody confirm that a PGP encrypted and signed
> message cannot be decrypted in TB! if you don't have
> the sender's public key to check the signature?

> Also, if somebody pastes their key into a message body
> and then  clearsigns the message, TB! will not import
> the key to your keyring if the key is not already there
> to check the signature?


Can anybody duplicate this?

Alternatively, does anybody observe different behaviour?



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PGP encrypted and signed message cannot be decrypted in TB! if you don't have sender's public key to check signature

[MFPA]

Hi


Can anybody confirm that a PGP encrypted and signed message cannot be
decrypted in TB! if you don't have the sender's public key to check
the signature?

Also, if somebody pastes their key into a message body and then 
clearsigns the message, TB! will not import the key to your keyring if 
the key is not already there to check the signature?


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Re: Defining PGP key in template

[MFPA]

Hi

On Wednesday 26 August 2009 at 2:46:05 PM, in
, Robert G. wrote:


> On Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 4:31:06 PM, MFPA wrote:

M>> That would be really good. It could perhaps be
M>> accomplished by allowing the existing pgp macros to
M>> take arguments,

> Do we still have some of TB! developers on this list?
> Perhaps they could take note of this.


Maybe a few people could support 
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3976 


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Re: Defining PGP key in template

[Robert G .]

On Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 4:31:06 PM, MFPA wrote:

M> That would be really good. It could perhaps be accomplished by
M> allowing the existing pgp macros to take arguments,

Do we still have some of TB! developers on this list? Perhaps they
could take note of this.

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Re: Defining PGP key in template

[MFPA]

Hi

On Wednesday 26 August 2009 at 6:55:05 AM, in
, Robert G. wrote:


> However, when I tried to do something similar on my
> default key (adding another UID, playing with the
> primary UID and then finally deleting the test UID), at
> no point it fixed my problem. So, go figure...


Yes, I have always found TB!'s behaviour in openPGP matters 
unpredictable.


> I guess, the best thing to fix this would be just to
> add a macro to TB! allowing you to manually choose the
> KeyID to be used for signing.

That would be really good. It could perhaps be accomplished by
allowing the existing pgp macros to take arguments, for example
%signcomplete="manualselect", %encryptcomplete="defaultkey",
%signcomplete="key" (where "key" is the key ID or fingerprint or a
string from the user-ID, such as "%TOADDR"), %encryptcomplete="group"
(where "group" is a mailing list defined in your gpg.conf file or in
PGPkeys) and maybe even %usepgp("encryptionkey","signingkey")


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Re: Defining PGP key in template

[Henk M. de Bruijn]

On Wed, 26 Aug 2009, at 09:49:15 [GMT +0300] (which was 8:49 where I
live) Robert G. wrote:

> I have my key listed there as both the "default-key" and "encrypt-to".

Similar situation here. The only suggestion I have left is to see if it helps
to move the GSWoT uid to the front. On my key I have that address as 2nd
uid and I do not encounter any problems (anymore). But as you can read
in the bugtrackreport I have had the similar situation.

HTH

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Re: Defining PGP key in template

[Robert G .]

On Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 9:36:57 AM, Henk wrote:

HMdB> Have you tried to put %SignComplete in that folder template?

I defined it through the Address Book template. These are the entries
I have:

%NOUSESMIME (to disable default behavior)
%USEPGP
%SIGNCOMPLETE

As I noted earlier, it works with all UIDs on the key except the one
with my GSWoT address.

HMdB> default-key my KeyID

I have my key listed there as both the "default-key" and "encrypt-to".

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Re: Defining PGP key in template

[Henk M. de Bruijn]

On Wed, 26 Aug 2009, at 08:55:05 [GMT +0300] (which was 7:55 where I
live) Robert G. wrote:

> I guess, the best thing to fix this would be just to add a macro to
> TB! allowing you to manually choose the KeyID to be used for signing.

Have you tried to put %SignComplete in that folder template?
In my situation I left the option which key to use in The Bat open, only
in my gpg.conf I have among other options:
default-key my KeyID

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Re: Defining PGP key in template

[Robert G .]

On Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 8:30:23 PM, Peter wrote:

Peter Meyns> failure here for several years. I have 11 user IDs on my key, but 
The
Peter Meyns> Bat! will only allow for two to be used.

I have six UIDs on my key and all of them work fine except the one
with GSWoT address. I am starting to suspect that bats have some kind
of prejudice toward spiders. :-)

Peter Meyns> people having encountered this behaviour, we perhaps can find out 
what
Peter Meyns> causes this.

As I mentioned in my reply to MFPA, I tried to play with a test key,
adding a number of UIDs and playing with the primary UID. At one
point, I got the same error as before. But after trying to again
change the primary UID I had the problem fixed. With my default key,
however, this trick did not work. So, for cases like this, it might be
good to have a possibility of defining the signing key manually, using
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Re: Defining PGP key in template

[Robert G .]

On Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 8:46:19 PM, MFPA wrote:

MFPA> What are you putting in the from line?

I tried various options: just the plain email address, using name with
the email address or simply copying the whole UserID. Nothing helped.

MFPA> I just created a test key with a secondary user ID of 
MFPA> "GSWoT:UA16 (www.gswot.invalid) " and then 
MFPA> composed a message with "golovn...@gswot.invalid" on the from line.
MFPA> When I put the message in the outbox a dialog box asked me for the 
MFPA> passphrase for the Key ID of that test key.

I did some testing too. Created a test key. Tried to sign with it.
Worked. Added another ID with a different email address. Tried to
sign. Worked with both addresses. Added and tested a few more
addresses. At one point got the same error as before: TB! would ask
for passphrase for the email address rather than the key and then said
that the secret key was not found. I then tried to play with the
primary UID for the key: changing them one after another. Finally, the
problem was fixed and I was able to have TB! work well with all these
UIDs, including the one that had problems before.

However, when I tried to do something similar on my default key
(adding another UID, playing with the primary UID and then finally
deleting the test UID), at no point it fixed my problem. So, go
figure...

I guess, the best thing to fix this would be just to add a macro to
TB! allowing you to manually choose the KeyID to be used for signing.

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Re: Defining PGP key in template

[Henk M. de Bruijn]

On Tue, 25 Aug 2009, at 20:00:24 [GMT +0300] (which was 19:00 where I
live) Robert wrote:

> I am trying to set a template in TB! to be used when composing
> messages to the GSWoT list. In the "From" field I want to use my gswot
> address. Everything works basically OK, except that TB! cannot figure
> out it should use my default key having the GSWoT UserID to sign those
> messages. I tried to write and rewrite that address, but to no avail.
> It works fine with all other UserID's, though. When I put an older
> email address in the "From" field, TB! flawlessly picks up one of my
> disabled keys to do the signing. So, I guess, it gets confused by the
> format of my GSWoT UserID.

After having read Peter's reply, you could try to put your GSWoT UserID to the 
front of your keyring
(primary or second). To see if that is a workaround?

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Re: Defining PGP key in template

[MFPA]

Hi

On Tuesday 25 August 2009 at 6:46:19 PM, in
, I wrote:



> What are you putting in the from line?


Further testing shows the from line to not necessarily be relevant.
If you over-write the address in the from line, TB! seems happy to 
look for a key matching the address you have written.  If you then 
change the active account for the message and over-write the from 
address again, TB! will not match on the address in the from field but 
on the address in the reply-to field. This will (at this point) not 
match the address in the from field but will be as set in the account 
properties. I cannot find a way to make the Reply-To field appear at 
the top of a message editor window for editing.


> "GSWoT:UA16

In the To or From field, everything from the start of the user name up
to and including the colon will be removed. This will make no 
difference to TB!'s matching as it is not part of the address.

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Re: Defining PGP key in template

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Robert,

on  Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:02:28 +0300GMT (25.08.2009, 15:02 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

R> In my situation, I have a key with a few UserIDs. And The Bat!
R> probably only goes by the main UserID, ignoring the others. And I
R> cannot get around it... :-(

Thank you for reminding me of this.

I have re-opened the issue from 2005 on BT:
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4171

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Re: Defining PGP key in template

[MFPA]

Hi

On Tuesday 25 August 2009 at 4:37:08 PM, in
,

Robert wrote:


> I am wondering whether TB! might be getting confused by
> the complex UserID: GSWoT:UA16 (www.gswot.org)
> ? Can this be checked somehow?


What are you putting in the from line?

I just created a test key with a secondary user ID of 
"GSWoT:UA16 (www.gswot.invalid) " and then 
composed a message with "golovn...@gswot.invalid" on the from line.
When I put the message in the outbox a dialog box asked me for the 
passphrase for the Key ID of that test key.


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Re: Defining PGP key in template

[Peter Meyns]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: RIPEMD160

Hi Robert,

on Tue, 25 Aug 2009 20:00:24 +0300GMT (25.08.2009, 19:00 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

R> ... TB! cannot figure out it should use my default key having the
R> GSWoT UserID to sign those messages. I tried to write and rewrite
R> that address, but to no avail. It works fine with all other
R> UserID's, though. When I put an older email address in the "From"
R> field, TB! flawlessly picks up one of my disabled keys to do the
R> signing. So, I guess, it gets confused by the format of my GSWoT
R> UserID.

I'm glad you brought this one up, Robert. I have been observing this
failure here for several years. I have 11 user IDs on my key, but The
Bat! will only allow for two to be used. For all others (including
this list address) I get the error message you quoted. Since then I
use GPGshell when I need GPG with one of those, because at that time
no one on TBUDL or TBBeta had an answer. But now that we are three
people having encountered this behaviour, we perhaps can find out what
causes this.

- -- 
Cheers
Peter

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Re: Defining PGP key in template

[MFPA]

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Hi

On Tuesday 25 August 2009 at 4:37:08 PM, in
,

Robert wrote:



> I tried to do the same with a several different email
> addresses in the "From" field, and all worked fine
> except one. The popup window requests my password for
> the email address rather than the PGP key.

Yes, TB! matches the pgp key on email address only. If it finds a key
with a user ID matching that email address then that dialog box
requests the passphrase for the key ID. If it fails to find a match,
the dialog box asks for a passphrase for the email address. I don't
know why it does this or what it wants you to enter.

> This is the message I get when trying to enter my
> password:

> gpg: no default secret key: secret key not available
> gpg: [stdin]: clearsign failed: secret key not
> available

That happens here when TB! has not found a match and has asked me to
enter a passphrase for an email address.

> I am wondering whether TB! might be getting confused by
> the complex UserID: GSWoT:UA16 (www.gswot.org)
> ? Can this be checked somehow?

Possibly (-;

> Can this be checked somehow?

You could create a user ID that was less complex. For TB!'s purposes
it would just need the email address and you do not have to make it
the primary ID.

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MFPA

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Re: Defining PGP key in template

[Robert]

On Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 7:37:03 PM, Henk wrote:

> What is it precisely what you are trying to do?

Hi, Henk! I am trying to set a template in TB! to be used when
composing messages to the GSWoT list. In the "From" field I want to
use my gswot address. Everything works basically OK, except that TB!
cannot figure out it should use my default key having the GSWoT UserID
to sign those messages. I tried to write and rewrite that address, but
to no avail. It works fine with all other UserID's, though. When I put
an older email address in the "From" field, TB! flawlessly picks up
one of my disabled keys to do the signing. So, I guess, it gets
confused by the format of my GSWoT UserID.

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Re: Defining PGP key in template

[Henk M. de Bruijn]

On Tue, 25 Aug 2009, at 18:37:08 [GMT +0300] (which was 17:37 where I
live) Robert wrote:

> I am wondering whether TB! might be getting confused by the complex
> UserID: GSWoT:UA16 (www.gswot.org) ? Can this be
> checked somehow?

Hi Robert,

I  remember from years ago that I got the similar error message. What is
it precisely what you are trying to do?

Maybe there is a conflict between an email address and the string of the
email address?

As far as I can see you are using GPG? Have you set a default key in
gpg.conf?

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Re: Defining PGP key in template

[Robert]

On Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 6:13:39 PM, MFPA wrote:

> I just tried and TB! chose the key matching the from address to sign
> with. I only have the from address I was testing as a user ID on one
> pgp key. It is not the primary user ID on that key.

I tried to do the same with a several different email addresses in the
"From" field, and all worked fine except one. The popup window
requests my password for the email address rather than the PGP key.

This is the message I get when trying to enter my password:

gpg: no default secret key: secret key not available
gpg: [stdin]: clearsign failed: secret key not available

I am wondering whether TB! might be getting confused by the complex
UserID: GSWoT:UA16 (www.gswot.org) ? Can this be
checked somehow?

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Re: Defining PGP key in template

[MFPA]

Hi

On Tuesday 25 August 2009 at 2:02:28 PM, in
,

Robert wrote:



> In my situation, I have a key with a few UserIDs. And
> The Bat! probably only goes by the main UserID,
> ignoring the others. And I cannot get around it... :-(


I just tried and TB! chose the key matching the from address to sign
with. I only have the from address I was testing as a user ID on one
pgp key. It is not the primary user ID on that key.


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Re: Defining PGP key in template

[Robert]

On Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 3:41:44 PM, MFPA wrote:

> As far as I know, TB! will use the "from" address of the message to
> select the key for signing and the "to" address to select the key to 
> encrypt to.

In my situation, I have a key with a few UserIDs. And The Bat!
probably only goes by the main UserID, ignoring the others. And I
cannot get around it... :-(

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Re: Defining PGP key in template

[MFPA]

Hi

On Monday 24 August 2009 at 1:59:06 PM, in
,

Robert G. wrote:


> Is there a way to define a specific PGP key to be used
> for signining and/or encryption in the message
> template?


As far as I know, TB! will use the "from" address of the message to 
select the key for signing and the "to" address to select the key to 
encrypt to. If you have more than one key in your keyring with an 
ID containing that email address, I'm told very early versions of TB! 
select the first key they find that matches the email address and 
later versions produce a dialog box for you to choose.


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Defining PGP key in template

[Robert G .]

Hello,

Is there a way to define a specific PGP key to be used for signining
and/or encryption in the message template?

Thank you.

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Re: Mein PGP-Schlüssel / My PGP-Key

[Roland Burger]

Hi Roland,

on Tuesday, December 12, 2006 at 15:34 you wrote in message
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
among others:


> Hi Peter,

> as requested, you receive my PGP-Key attached to this message.

Sorry! The message from Peter to the mailinglist was filtered in the wrong 
folder. Therefore this message was automatically sent!


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Mein PGP-Schlüssel / My PGP-Key

[Roland Burger]

Hi Peter,

as requested, you receive my PGP-Key attached to this message.

- -
Fingerprint:
973A D990 361B B09D 49CB 2BA4 4DF4 A8C1 92A0 5704

Key-ID:
0x92A05704
- -
Hallo Peter,

wie gewünscht, erhältst Du mit dieser Nachricht meinen PGP-Schlüssel.

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Re[2]: filter forgetting its hot key trigger

[rich gregory]

>> Oy - How odd -- All of a sudden a filter has decided to forget its
>> hot key trigger and every time I need to use this filter I have to
>> first open the sorting office and edit the filter to again remember
>> this key combination as the execute trigger!

CW> Odd. Has a newly installed application possibly taken that key
CW> combination over?


No, nothing has stolen CTRL-ALT-SHIFT-E. But, today it works... Odd indeed!

RG

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Re: filter forgetting its hot key trigger

[Chris W .]

rich gregory @ 2006-11-14 11:00:47 PM
"filter forgetting its hot key trigger" 

> Oy - How odd -- All of a sudden a filter has decided to forget its
> hot key trigger and every time I need to use this filter I have to
> first open the sorting office and edit the filter to again remember
> this key combination as the execute trigger!

Odd. Has a newly installed application possibly taken that key
combination over?

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Re: filter forgetting its hot key trigger

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo rich,

On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 00:00:47 -0500GMT (15-11-2006, 6:00 , where I
live), you wrote:

RG> Oy - How odd -- All of a sudden a filter has decided to forget its hot
RG> key trigger and every time I need to use this filter I have to first
RG> open the sorting office and edit the filter to again remember this key
RG> combination as the execute trigger!

RG> Anyone? (I'm on TB! v 2.12.)

Sounds like something got corrupted in your sorting office.
Create a new filter with the same actions, assign the hotkey to it and
delete the old filter and see whether that helps.

If this doesn't help, copy the account.srx file from the matching
account to a save location. Create a TB backup of your filters (I
guess that would be either account properties or general options)
Close TB
Delete the account.srx file
Start TB
Restore your backup
In my experience to restore a backup removes dead entries from the
sorting office and the address book, so you might try this.


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filter forgetting its hot key trigger

[rich gregory]

Hello Bat-Folk!

Oy - How odd -- All of a sudden a filter has decided to forget its hot
key trigger and every time I need to use this filter I have to first
open the sorting office and edit the filter to again remember this key
combination as the execute trigger!

Anyone? (I'm on TB! v 2.12.)

Thx much
Rich


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Re: Hot Key Annoyance

[Robert D.]

It is said that Mica Mijatovic concocted the following rebuttal :

> For typos is good to check, in Editor's window, "Automatic
> checking", in "Spell Checker" menu.

yes, that's how I knew there were typographical errors already. My
style, FWIW, is to *usually* go back after I see a few, then correct
them.

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Re: Hot Key Annoyance

[Mica Mijatovic]

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   ***^\ ."_)~~
 ~( __ _"o   Was another beautiful day, Mon, 30 Jan 2006,
   @  @  at 09:42:42 -0500, when Robert D. wrote:

  (1)

> This just happened to me a second or two ago. I was near the end of a
> post to a Livestock Guardian Dog email list and my clumsy finger hit
> **some** unknown key in the upper or topmost tier and the whole email
> was sent along with a download of all accounts.

[...]

  (2)

> What ires me is that I know there were typo's with red underlines and
> I was going to go back and do the grammar and spell check stuff as I
> do after I get to the end of the writing.


  (1)

To prevent unwanted sending of a message you still edit, check under
Account | Properties | Options | Message editor settings, the "Confirm
immediate sending" little regular tetragon. Then on, anytime you hit
something you didn't want and if it goes to send the message you edit,
TB will ask you do you really want to send it, and will not send it
without your confirmation.

If you edit a message, and want to proceed later, then a simple 
will save the message parked (as a Draft) in your Outbox.

It is also possible with Alt+F2, but  is simpler and faster (if you
have the other finger[s] busy).

Hitting Shift+F2 combination will however save the message you edit, but
will not park it (as a Draft) and will thus prepare it for sending (so
no help once the send button is hit).


  (2)

For typos is good to check, in Editor's window, "Automatic checking", in
"Spell Checker" menu. It will then check entire text, as you type it in.
The tiny red vermicular lines will appear then timely. :worm1:

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Re: Hot Key Annoyance

[Robert D.]

Generally, MAU foretold :

> Open the Customise window (View/Toolbars/Customise) and select Main
> form/Main Menu (menu bar) on the top. 

Indeed ! A heap of thanks to you


(geeze, I am still in Hungarian spell checker, not that I wanted to
be) OK .. I must make another post under a different topic and find
out how I get out of this 


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Re: Hot Key Annoyance

[MAU]

Hello Robert,


> I am not, despite being on Internet for a very long time, a speed
> type due to finger configuration and possibly brain configuration.

You are not the only one with clumsy fingers ;-)

> I do NOT like that I have no control over some secretly placed
> hot-key. Mind you, I suspect it *could be  but am not sure.
> 
> I would like to be able to selectively switch-off these keys.

Open the Customise window (View/Toolbars/Customise) and select Main
form/Main Menu (menu bar) on the top. Once the menu is displayed on the
right window (Current Items) expand the Tools option. Select the "Send +
Check for all" entry and you will see that F11 is displayed in the
shortcuts window (bottom right). Click on it and then click on Remove
button.

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Hot Key Annoyance

[Robert D.]

This just happened to me a second or two ago. I was near the end of a
post to a Livestock Guardian Dog email list and my clumsy finger hit
**some** unknown key in the upper or topmost tier and the whole email
was sent along with a download of all accounts.

I have, what I thought, were hot-keys switched off !!

Most annoying it is. Most terribly annoying. I immediately hit the X
on the Connection Centre window to try and kill it. I then hit the
kill on the Dial-up but the message got out.

What ires me is that I know there were typo's with red underlines and
I was going to go back and do the grammar and spell check stuff as I
do after I get to the end of the writing.

I am not, despite being on Internet for a very long time, a speed
type due to finger configuration and possibly brain configuration.

I do NOT like that I have no control over some secretly placed
hot-key. Mind you, I suspect it **could* be  but am not sure.

I would like to be able to selectively switch-off these keys.

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Re: Setting up a new shortcut key sequence

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Admin,

On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 20:51:43 + GMT (16/11/2005, 03:51 +0700 GMT),
Admin at AK wrote:

AaA> Is it just me or is the setting up of custom shortcut key sequences really 
hard?

Alexander already replied how to set custom shortcuts now. I just want
to add that, yes, it is really hard. Not user-friendly at all. :-(

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Re: Setting up a new shortcut key sequence

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello Admin at AK & everyone else,

on 15-Nov-2005 at 21:51 you (Admin at AK) wrote:

> "just open the Shortcut Editor of the window you wish to define the
> shortcut for"

The old shortcut editor is gone and has been replaced by the new
"customiser". The manual does not reflect this (yet). :-}

Its in the menu View / Toolbars / Customise

The biggest pain certainly is finding the function you need, the rest is
pretty easy. :-)

Open the customiser, then select the "Message list popup menu" container
from the dropdown box at the top of the customise window. You'll find the
"redirect" menu entry there and can assign a keyboard shortcut to it.
However, it already has the keyboard shortcut "CTRL+E", maybe thats already
what you need?

Redirecting directly to a certain address is not possible this way, you
need to set up a manual filter that you can trigger with a shortcut key.
You can do that in the Sorting Office.

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Setting up a new shortcut key sequence

[Admin at AK]

Is it just me or is the setting up of custom shortcut key sequences really hard?

All I want to do is set up a shortcut key sequence that redirects the 
highlighted email.

[If it can be set up to go to a particular redirected address even better]

The manual says:

"just open the Shortcut Editor of the window you wish to define the shortcut 
for"

??? how ???

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Re: PGP key request

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Jurgen,

On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 07:11:50 +0200GMT (10-8-2005, 7:11 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

>>   Looks like you might need to fix your auto-responder not use
>>   reply-all, but just reply to sender.

JH> hmmm, I am using this 'send automatic reply' item in the filter
JH> office. What do I have to do to make it only reply to the sender?

You didn't do a reply to all, but you used the reply-to header. I
suppose that's as you should.
Of course you could use a macro like
%To=""%To="%OFromAddr"%-
Best would be to set your autorespond filter beneath the filters for
your mailing lists or let it test more specific to your own addresses.

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RE: PGP key request

[Jurgen Haug]

Hello Jonathan,

Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 12:34:39 AM, you wrote:



>> This is an automated reply and your mail won't get read.

>   Looks like you might need to fix your auto-responder not use
>   reply-all, but just reply to sender.

hmmm, I am using this 'send automatic reply' item in the filter office. What do 
I have to do to make it only reply to the sender?


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RE: PGP key request

[Jurgen Haug]

Hello Jonathan,

Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 12:34:39 AM, you wrote:



>> Tuesday, August 9, 2005, 9:00:25 PM, you asked for my PGP key. Please find 
>> it attached.

>> This is an automated reply and your mail won't get read.

>   Looks like you might need to fix your auto-responder not use
>   reply-all, but just reply to sender.

agh, how embarassing.

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Altito"

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* PGP key available on request: send mail with subject PGP key request

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Re[2]: PGP key request

[Vladimir 'insider' Prohorov]

Good day, Jonathan.

>> Please send me yours PGP key.

JA>   Folder template? :)

Yes. Sometimes I really hate them.


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Re: PGP key request

[Jonathan Angliss]

Hi Jurgen Haug,
On Tuesday, August 09, 2005, you wrote:

> Hello Vladimir,

> Tuesday, August 9, 2005, 9:00:25 PM, you asked for my PGP key. Please find it 
> attached.

> This is an automated reply and your mail won't get read.

  Looks like you might need to fix your auto-responder not use
  reply-all, but just reply to sender.

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Re: PGP key request

[Jonathan Angliss]

Hi Vladimir 'insider' Prohorov,
On Tuesday, August 09, 2005, you wrote:

> Good day, Jurgen.

> Please send me yours PGP key.

  Folder template? :)

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Re:PGP key request

[Jurgen Haug]

Hello Vladimir,

Tuesday, August 9, 2005, 9:00:25 PM, you asked for my PGP key. Please find it 
attached.

This is an automated reply and your mail won't get read.

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PGP key request

[Vladimir 'insider' Prohorov]

Good day, Jurgen.

Please send me yours PGP key.

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encrypting a message with a choosen key

[Henk M. de Bruijn]

Hi all,

I am using more than one key. Is it possible to choose a key in a
template to encrypt a message?

%USEPGP%-
%ENCRYPTCOMPLETE%-

If so where do I have to fill in or add that keyID?

TIA

cheers,
Henk
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Re[2]: Background color and Key Assignments

[Munango-Keewati]

On Saturday, June 4, 2005, 4:56:23 AM, you wrote:


> Hi

> On Saturday 4 June 2005 at 5:00:16 AM, in
> <mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Munango-Keewati wrote:

>> Anyone know how to change the background color of the folder tabs and
>> message list?

> Folder tabs, dunno.

> Message list, use colour groups (found under Options | Preferences
> from main window). Can also use this in folder list.
> When defining colours, the first box is text colour, second is
> background colour. Tabs for read and for unread, so can be
> different (although can also use a Read Message filter to assign
> to a different colour group).

Thanks to everyone who replied.

I was hoping for something comparable to setting the background in the
preview and edit mail windows (Options - Preferences - Viewer/Editor).
But thanks anyway.

Sorry about the misleading subject.  At the last minute I decided to
post a different message about key assignments over on the beta list.

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Re: Re[2]: Background color and Key Assignments

[Tony Boom]

Hello Vili.

--On 03 June 2005 22:43 +0200 you wrote about Re[2]: Background color and
Key Assignments:


> NOW I see yor problem.

I see your problem as well, your clock is about 24 hours slow. Unless you
saved all yesterdays messages up and are sending them today?

I sort by time/date stamp and everything you sent today has yesterdays date
on.

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M

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Re[2]: Background color and Key Assignments

[Vili]

M>>> Folder tabs, dunno.
>> Same way. You can assign color groups to folder tabs, also. Right
>> click, Special...
>> I learnt it here :)
M> I can do that to entries in the folder list/tree
M> but the tabs have no right-click menu (here at least).

NOW I see yor problem. Right click on the Desktop, Properties,
Appearance...

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Re: Background color and Key Assignments

[MFPA]

Hi

On Friday 3 June 2005 at 12:45:36 PM, in
, Vili wrote:


M>> Folder tabs, dunno.

> Same way. You can assign color groups to folder tabs, also. Right
> click, Special...

> I learnt it here :)

I can do that to entries in the folder list/tree
but the tabs have no right-click menu (here at least).

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Re: Background color and Key Assignments

[MFPA]

Hi

On Saturday 4 June 2005 at 5:00:16 AM, in
<mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Munango-Keewati wrote:

> Subject: Background color and Key Assignments

I think I missed the bit about Key Assignments.

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Re[2]: Background color and Key Assignments

[Vili]

>> Anyone know how to change the background color of the folder tabs and
>> message list?
M> Folder tabs, dunno.

Same way. You can assign color groups to folder tabs, also. Right
click, Special...

I learnt it here :)

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Re: Background color and Key Assignments

[MFPA]

Hi

On Saturday 4 June 2005 at 5:00:16 AM, in
,
Munango-Keewati wrote:

> Anyone know how to change the background color of the folder tabs and
> message list?

Folder tabs, dunno.

Message list, use colour groups (found under Options | Preferences
from main window). Can also use this in folder list.
When defining colours, the first box is text colour, second is
background colour. Tabs for read and for unread, so can be
different (although can also use a Read Message filter to assign
to a different colour group).

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MFPA

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Background color and Key Assignments

[Munango-Keewati]

Anyone know how to change the background color of the folder tabs and
message list?

Thanks in advance.

-- 
Best,

M-K
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Re[2]: Short Cut Key for Junk Mail

[Jeff Gaines]

Hello Group

On Wednesday, May 4, 2005, 8:19:03 PM, Stuart wrote:

> Hello Jeff,

>   A reminder of what Jeff Gaines typed on:
>   May 4, 2005 at 19:55:41 GMT +0100

JG>> I have just installed the Bayesit add in (v 0.8.0) in an attempt to
JG>> control junk, unfortunately my hosting service doesn't have very
JG>> effective controls.

JG>> Is it possible to allocate a short cut key to mark junk mail? I have a
JG>> hundred or so that would be good for training but I'm wearing my
JG>> trackpad out :-)


> Hang on for a few days. Once V3.5 is released you will be able to, but
> not before and not in your version.


Many thanks, Alexander and Stuart.
I didn't see your responses earlier since Bayesit decided tbudl was
spam :-)
Apart from that it seems quite effective.

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Re: Short Cut Key for Junk Mail

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello Jeff Gaines & everyone else,

on 04-Mai-2005 at 20:55 you (Jeff Gaines) wrote:

> Is it possible to allocate a short cut key to mark junk mail?

I don't know as I'm not using BayesIt, but...

> I have a hundred or so that would be good for training but I'm wearing my
> trackpad out :-)

You can simply mark all of them and select "Mark as junk" from the
right-mouse context menu.

I'd suggest you do the same with your Sent mail folder so that you'll have
a good dictionary of legitimate mails.

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Re: Short Cut Key for Junk Mail

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Jeff,

  A reminder of what Jeff Gaines typed on:
  May 4, 2005 at 19:55:41 GMT +0100

JG> I have just installed the Bayesit add in (v 0.8.0) in an attempt to
JG> control junk, unfortunately my hosting service doesn't have very
JG> effective controls.

JG> Is it possible to allocate a short cut key to mark junk mail? I have a
JG> hundred or so that would be good for training but I'm wearing my
JG> trackpad out :-)


Hang on for a few days. Once V3.5 is released you will be able to, but
not before and not in your version.

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Short Cut Key for Junk Mail

[Jeff Gaines]

Hello Group

I have just installed the Bayesit add in (v 0.8.0) in an attempt to
control junk, unfortunately my hosting service doesn't have very
effective controls.

Is it possible to allocate a short cut key to mark junk mail? I have a
hundred or so that would be good for training but I'm wearing my
trackpad out :-)

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Re: Import Public Key?

[Peter Meyns]

Hi John,

on Mon, 15 Nov 2004 20:48:37 +1100GMT, you wrote:

JP> Received an e-mail through Bat! which had an icon I haven't seen before on
JP> rhs of headers pane; clicked on it and it came up "Import Public Key".

JP> How?  Where from? Where to?  What for?

Someone probably has sent you a public PGP key, that TB! offers you to
import to your local keyring. This will, of course, only work when you
have PGP installed...

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Import Public Key?

[John Phillips]

Hi Bat! Fans,

Received an e-mail through Bat! which had an icon I haven't seen before on
rhs of headers pane; clicked on it and it came up "Import Public Key".

How?  Where from? Where to?  What for?

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Re: GnuPG Key Manager and The Bat

[Costas Papadopoulos]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Friday, September 10, 2004, 3:57:22 PM, I wrote! (possibly edited):

>> Peter, do you have just one signing key?  It's been quite a while
>> since I tried to use GPG from within TB!, but I couldn't get it to
>> work at all.

> I get this message when I try and sign+encrypt -

> gpg: 2FE8DB89: There is no indication that this key really belongs to the owner
> gpg: [stdin]: sign+encrypt failed: unusable public key

> and the message isn't sent.

I  found  the  answer to this one. I used GPGKeys and added the option
"always-trust". This is done with the necessary caveats of course, but
in any case it does do the encrypt and sign action.

- --
Best regards,
 Costas
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Version: GnuPG v1.2.3-nr1 (Windows XP)

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Re: GnuPG Key Manager and The Bat

[Costas Papadopoulos]

Hello Joseph,
Thursday, September 9, 2004, 11:09:46 PM, you wrote (possibly edited):
> On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 20:05:47 GMT, Peter Meyns wrote:

>> I find TB!'s implemented support of GnuPG quite sufficient. I have
>> GPGShell installed here, but I rarely use it.

> Peter, do you have just one signing key?  It's been quite a while 
> since I tried to use GPG from within TB!, but I couldn't get it to 
> work at all.

I get this message when I try and sign+encrypt -

gpg: 2FE8DB89: There is no indication that this key really belongs to the owner
gpg: [stdin]: sign+encrypt failed: unusable public key

and the message isn't sent.

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Re: GnuPG Key Manager and The Bat

[Joseph N.]

On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 20:05:47 GMT, Peter Meyns wrote:

> I find TB!'s implemented support of GnuPG quite sufficient. I have
> GPGShell installed here, but I rarely use it.

Peter, do you have just one signing key?  It's been quite a while 
since I tried to use GPG from within TB!, but I couldn't get it to 
work at all.

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Re: GnuPG Key Manager and The Bat

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Costas,

on Thu, 9 Sep 2004 17:14:33 +0300GMT, you wrote:

CP> Is  there  a  way  to  incorporate  a  GnuPG  Key Manager, for example
CP> GPGKeys, in The Bat?

CP> Apparently  there  are  options only for PGP, covering practically all
CP> versions up to version 8, but nothing similar for GnuPG.

I find TB!'s implemented support of GnuPG quite sufficient. I have
GPGShell installed here, but I rarely use it.

-- 
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Peter

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GnuPG Key Manager and The Bat

[Costas Papadopoulos]

Hello,

Is  there  a  way  to  incorporate  a  GnuPG  Key Manager, for example
GPGKeys, in The Bat?

Apparently  there  are  options only for PGP, covering practically all
versions up to version 8, but nothing similar for GnuPG.

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 Costas

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Re[2]: Reg key lead time

[Ron Secord]

Ron Secord [RS] wrote:

> Mine arrived within a couple hours. As stated somewhere in the
> transaction, RitLabs should send the key within 48 hours. If it's been
> longer than that, I would email them and see if it was an over-sight
> or something.

Oops, should have read the rest of the thread 1st...

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Re: Reg key lead time

[Ron Secord]

Admin [A] wrote:

> How long have others had to wait for a reg key after paying for v3
> upgrade?

Mine arrived within a couple hours. As stated somewhere in the
transaction, RitLabs should send the key within 48 hours. If it's been
longer than that, I would email them and see if it was an over-sight
or something.

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Re[3]: Reg key lead time

[admin]

>> On Thursday, September 2, 2004 @ 8:55:42 PM, Mark Partous wrote:

>> [snips]

admin>>>>> And two emails, one yestreday am and one last night have gone
admin>>>>> completely unanswered.

MicCullen>>>> Likewise.

> I've phoned CIFNet (trans-atlantic call) and they claim to be trying
> to deal with a huge backlog of v3 upgrades. They say they will get to
> mine tonight or tomorrow (Chicago time).

...and suddenly Ritlabs responds with a licence key...

...interesting...

-- 
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Annery Kiln Web Design
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Re[2]: Reg key lead time

[admin]

> On Thursday, September 2, 2004 @ 8:55:42 PM, Mark Partous wrote:

> [snips]

admin And two emails, one yestreday am and one last night have gone
admin completely unanswered.

MicCullen>>> Likewise.

I've phoned CIFNet (trans-atlantic call) and they claim to be trying
to deal with a huge backlog of v3 upgrades. They say they will get to
mine tonight or tomorrow (Chicago time).

So I suppose Ritlabs are finding it difficult to respond due to needing
to run back and forth to the bank

;-)

And don't anyone ask why I ordered from Chicago when I'm in UK... I
don't know.

-- 
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Re: Reg key lead time

[M i c C u l l e n]

On Thursday, September 2, 2004 @ 8:55:42 PM, Mark Partous wrote:

[snips]

admin>>> And two emails, one yestreday am and one last night have gone
admin>>> completely unanswered.

MicCullen>> Likewise.

admin>>> Anyone any suggestions as to what I can do?

MicCullen>> Hope seems to be the only thing...

Mark> Is this via Element5 (I suppose not)?

I emailed the company direct to enquire as to what was their pricing policy
for some poor dweeb who had only purchased a licence less than three months
ago.

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Re[2]: Reg key lead time

[Mark Partous]

Hello M,

Thursday, September 2, 2004, 2:25:05 PM, you wrote:

>>> It's been two days now and I've not had anything.

admin>> And two emails, one yestreday am and one last night have gone
admin>> completely unanswered.

MicCullen> Likewise.

admin>> Anyone any suggestions as to what I can do?

MicCullen> Hope seems to be the only thing...

Is this via Element5 (I suppose not)?


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Re: Reg key lead time

[M i c C u l l e n]

On Thursday, September 2, 2004 @ 7:43:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[snips]

>> It's been two days now and I've not had anything.

admin> And two emails, one yestreday am and one last night have gone
admin> completely unanswered.

Likewise.

admin> Anyone any suggestions as to what I can do?

Hope seems to be the only thing...

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Re: Reg key lead time

[admin]

> How long have others had to wait for a reg key after paying for v3
> upgrade?

> It's been two days now and I've not had anything.

And two emails, one yestreday am and one last night have gone
completely unanswered.

Anyone any suggestions as to what I can do?

-- 
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Annery Kiln Web Design
www.annerykiln.co.uk
Using The Bat! 3.0
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Re: Reg key lead time

[Mark Partous]

Hello admin,

Thursday, September 2, 2004, 11:32:00 AM, you wrote:

aacu> How long have others had to wait for a reg key after paying for v3
aacu> upgrade?

aacu> It's been two days now and I've not had anything.

Half a minute? A minute? Or was it two?
It arrived almost simultanously with the Element5 E-mail.


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Re: Reg key lead time

[John Phillips]

Hi Marten,
On Thu, 2 Sep 2004, at 10:32:00 [GMT+0100] (which was 19:32:00 Australian
Eastern Time) you wrote:



> How long have others had to wait for a reg key after paying for v3
> upgrade?

Mine arrived in about 6 hours; purchased a couple of days ago early morning
Sydney time.


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Re: Reg key lead time

[Alexander S. Kunz]

On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 10:32:00 +0100, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
How long have others had to wait for a reg key after paying for v3
upgrade?
It's been two days now and I've not had anything.
At least the ritlabs.com Webserver appears to be dead. Its answering to  
ping requests, but thats it...

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 Alexander Kunz

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Reg key lead time

[admin]

How long have others had to wait for a reg key after paying for v3
upgrade?

It's been two days now and I've not had anything.

-- 
Marten Gallagher
Annery Kiln Web Design
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Re: Re[2]: hot key for "mark as junk"- PLEASE

[Samson]

> Who doesn't use mark as junk at least 5 times a day?

i set it to ctrl+alt+j, works well.

i have lots of spam today but seldom use this hotkey now, only because
bayesit is working great !

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Re[2]: hot key for "mark as junk"- PLEASE

[jwayne]

On Tuesday, July 13, 2004, 5:33:25 PM, Arjan de Groot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

AdG> On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 09:07:35 +0200, Roelof Otten wrote:

GM>>> Who doesn't use mark as junk at least 5 times a day?

>> I don't.

AdG> Me neither. Spampal takes care of the junk marking all by
AdG> itself.

>> I don't use any spam filter at all, I don't get as much as
>> five spams a week and yes, I've been on line for quite some
>> time with my current addresses.

AdG> I have used (and still use) real mail addresses on usenet.
AdG> Before my provider took care of it, my Spamfilter caught
AdG> around 200 Spam mails on average days and around 300 on
AdG> peak days. IMO provider side filtering is _the_ future of 
AdG> Spam control.

Agreed. One of the hosts I use has Spam Assassin in place which catches an
incredible amount of spam. I didn't even realize how much until I logged on to
cpanel and checked it out.

I also get very little spam on this myrealbox account which is managed by
Novell, so they are obviously doing something on the back-end as well. Hotmail
has gotten a lot better also. Yahoo, IMO, is far and away the worst in the spam
filtering department.

Fighting spam at the email-client is a losing battle.

jon
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Re: hot key for "mark as junk"- PLEASE

[Arjan de Groot]

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 09:07:35 +0200, Roelof Otten wrote:

GM>> Who doesn't use mark as junk at least 5 times a day?

> I don't.

Me neither. Spampal takes care of the junk marking all by
itself.

> I don't use any spam filter at all, I don't get as much as
> five spams a week and yes, I've been on line for quite some
> time with my current addresses.

I have used (and still use) real mail addresses on usenet.
Before my provider took care of it, my Spamfilter caught
around 200 Spam mails on average days and around 300 on
peak days. IMO provider side filtering is _the_ future of 
Spam control.


Arjan
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Re: hot key for "mark as junk"- PLEASE

[Tim Sharrock]

Tuesday, July 13, 2004, 6:10:18 AM, Ben Allen wrote:

> Howdy Gary,

> Tuesday, July 13, 2004, 3:23:54 AM, Gary wrotened:

Gary>> Should have a button though, or some preset key.  I used
Gary>> ctrl+j, which was park.  I never use park, but thats just me.
Gary>> Who doesn't use mark as junk at least 5 times a day?

> Er.. me

me too.
I use popfile, and have the X-POPFile-Link displayed in grey
header-bar of the preview-pane (is that the right name), and
click through that URL when I want to reclassify something.

Tim
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Re: hot key for "mark as junk"- PLEASE

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Gary,

On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 19:23:54 -0700GMT (13-7-2004, 4:23 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

GM> Who doesn't use mark as junk at least 5 times a day?

I don't.
I don't use any spam filter at all, I don't get as much as five spams
a week and yes, I've been on line for quite some time with my current
addresses.

-- 
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Re: hot key for "mark as junk"- PLEASE

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo rich,

On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 22:46:01 -0400GMT (13-7-2004, 4:46 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

RG> Will the [Mark as junk] item in the shortcuts editor work in
RG> conjunction with my SpamPal as a proxy?

I don't think so, after all you've got to mark messages as junk in an
external program, not in a plug-in.

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Re: hot key for "mark as junk"- PLEASE

[M i c C u l l e n]

On Tuesday, July 13, 2004 @ 1:10:18 PM, Ben Allen wrote:

[snips]

Gary>> Should have a button though, or some preset key.  I used
Gary>> ctrl+j, which was park.  I never use park, but thats just me.  
Gary>> Who doesn't use mark as junk at least 5 times a day?

Ben> Er.. me

Me too, actually - SpamPal is terrific.

I would like 'ignore thread' and 'watch thread' buttons/functions though :-)

-- 

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frighten the horses."
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Re[3]: hot key for "mark as junk"- PLEASE

[Ben Allen]

Howdy Gary,

Tuesday, July 13, 2004, 3:23:54 AM, Gary wrotened:

Gary> Should have a button though, or some preset key.  I used
Gary> ctrl+j, which was park.  I never use park, but thats just me.  
Gary> Who doesn't use mark as junk at least 5 times a day?

Er.. me




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hot key for "mark as junk"- PLEASE

[Gary Meyer]

Hi tbudl,

or button, or something.

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Re[2]: hot key for "mark as junk"- PLEASE

[Gary Meyer]

Hi Wolffe,

Cool!

Should have a button though, or some preset key.  I used ctrl+j, which was park.  I 
never use park, but thats just me.   Who doesn't use mark as junk at least 5 times a 
day?

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Monday, July 12, 2004, 7:01:43 PM, you wrote:

W> On Monday, July 12, 2004 it was asked:

G>> Hi tbudl,

G>> or button, or something.


W> press  or menu to View->Edit.Shortcut.Keys  will bring up
W> the function to define your own HotKey.
W> Scroll down to specials, double click on "Mark as Junk" then press
W> the key sequence you want to use. I set mine to <'>. After you
W> set it, make sure you check for conflicts.



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Re: hot key for "mark as junk"- PLEASE

[Wolffe]

On Monday, July 12, 2004 it was asked:

G> Hi tbudl,

G> or button, or something.


press  or menu to View->Edit.Shortcut.Keys  will bring up
the function to define your own HotKey.
Scroll down to specials, double click on "Mark as Junk" then press
the key sequence you want to use. I set mine to <'>. After you
set it, make sure you check for conflicts.

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Re[2]: Seeking confirmation of my interpretation of Key Nomenclature ...

[subscriber2list]

Hello Thomas,

Friday, July 2, 2004, 3:09:44 PM, you wrote:



s>> Would you, by any chance, be able to point me in the right direction
s>> for a list of the currently defined key combinations used in TB!?

TF> Click on the link at the bottom of each message and look for the FAQ
TF> file, or go directly to
TF> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBFAQ.html
TF> and click on "+ Is there a compiled list of keyboard shortcuts?".

Thank you, Sir!


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