Re: Known bug?
Hello Akebono, On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 10:50:03 +0100 GMT (11/Feb/11, 16:50 PM +0700 GMT), Akebono Translation Service wrote: ATS It seems The Bat converts the combination of ym to µ in IE's web ATS address bar if this combination is found within a link in an HTML ATS e-mail (if the format is plain text, this does not happen). ATS For example: ATS www.url.com/name=heymaster=1 ATS becomes ATS www.url.com/name=heµaster=1 ATS in IE Not confirmed. I clicked on the first link, and the URL (at least in the address bar in IE) shows the same. No conversion to the second URL. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.36.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Known bug?
Hello Thomas, On Tuesday, February 15, 2011 you wrote: TF Hello Akebono, TF On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 10:50:03 +0100 GMT (11/Feb/11, 16:50 PM +0700 GMT), TF Akebono Translation Service wrote: ATS It seems The Bat converts the combination of ym to µ in IE's web ATS address bar if this combination is found within a link in an HTML ATS e-mail (if the format is plain text, this does not happen). ATS For example: ATS www.url.com/name=heymaster=1 ATS becomes ATS www.url.com/name=heµaster=1 ATS in IE TF Not confirmed. I clicked on the first link, and the URL (at least in TF the address bar in IE) shows the same. No conversion to the second TF URL. My result is exactly the same as Thomas's. Clicking on the top link launches Firefox and copies the link into Firefox's address bar exactly as shown. No conversion to the lower link and curiously, both links take me to the same page (URL.COM) even though they both appear in Firefox's address bar exactly as shown here. -- Jack LaRosa Using The Bat! ver: 4.2.42. Running Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Known bug?
Dear all, It seems The Bat converts the combination of ym to µ in IE's web address bar if this combination is found within a link in an HTML e-mail (if the format is plain text, this does not happen). For example: www.url.com/name=heymaster=1 becomes www.url.com/name=heµaster=1 in IE Is this a known bug? It seems pretty serious to me! Best regards, Loek van Kooten = Please subscribe to our newsletter for updates about our agency (holidays, address changes, etc.). It is sent once or twice a year and contains important information only -- no spam, advertisements, or promotions: http://www.akebono.nl/lists/?p=subscribeid=1 -- Akebono Translation Service Rijnstraat 32 2311 NK Leiden The Netherlands Tel: +31-87-8763636 Fax: +31-84-7390618 www.akebono.nl Algemene voorwaarden: www.akebono.nl/algemeen.doc Terms and conditions: www.akebono.nl/terms.doc Chamber of Commerce reg. no.: 28066372 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Known bug?
Dear all, It seems The Bat converts the combination of ym to µ in IE's web address bar if this combination is found within a link in an HTML e-mail (if the format is plain text, this does not happen). P.S. The mail is encoded in utf-8 and the source clearly says ym, not µ Best regards, Loek van Kooten = Please subscribe to our newsletter for updates about our agency (holidays, address changes, etc.). It is sent once or twice a year and contains important information only -- no spam, advertisements, or promotions: http://www.akebono.nl/lists/?p=subscribeid=1 -- Akebono Translation Service Rijnstraat 32 2311 NK Leiden The Netherlands Tel: +31-87-8763636 Fax: +31-84-7390618 www.akebono.nl Algemene voorwaarden: www.akebono.nl/algemeen.doc Terms and conditions: www.akebono.nl/terms.doc Chamber of Commerce reg. no.: 28066372 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Known bug?
On Friday, February 11, 2011, 10:56:56, Akebono Translation Service wrote: P.S. The mail is encoded in utf-8 and the source clearly says ym, not µ If the source says something like a href=http://www.example.com/foo?bar=ym=baz; that's illegal HTML, and the result is not surprising. All characters in HTML must be written as amp;. If a bare appears in source, different HTML parsers will do different things - some will remove and all alphanumeric characters following it, others will just remove the , some will leave as-is and some will try to interpret the entity even though it's missing the finishing ; (which is what seems to be happening in your case). None of these behaviours should be relied on. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ Science is Truth. Don't be misled by fact. -- Finagle's Creed Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Known bug?
Dear Jernej, All characters in HTML must be written as amp;. That explains a lot and solved my issue. Thanks a lot! Best regards, Loek van Kooten = Please subscribe to our newsletter for updates about our agency (holidays, address changes, etc.). It is sent once or twice a year and contains important information only -- no spam, advertisements, or promotions: http://www.akebono.nl/lists/?p=subscribeid=1 -- Akebono Translation Service Rijnstraat 32 2311 NK Leiden The Netherlands Tel: +31-87-8763636 Fax: +31-84-7390618 www.akebono.nl Algemene voorwaarden: www.akebono.nl/algemeen.doc Terms and conditions: www.akebono.nl/terms.doc Chamber of Commerce reg. no.: 28066372 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Known bug?
- Original Message From: Jernej Simončič jernej.listso...@ena.si If the source says something like a href=http://www.example.com/foo?bar=ym=baz; that's illegal HTML, and the result is not surprising. All characters in HTML must be written as amp;. If a bare appears in source, different HTML parsers will do different things - some will remove and all alphanumeric characters following it, others will just remove the , some will leave as-is and some will try to interpret the entity even though it's missing the finishing ; (which is what seems to be happening in your case). None of these behaviours should be relied on. That's accurate except in this case. The reason the character shouldn't be used in HTML is because it's a key element in the parsing of URLs (the character separates parameters in the URL). So in this case, where the character is actually in a URL, that is a perfectly appropriate usage of the character as it is separating the key value pairs bar=y and m=baz. Loek, this could be a more complicated issue. I'm not clear on whether this is an issue with TB! or with IE (I'd be much more inclined to believe it's IE). You say it works in plain text, but fails in HTML, but only if the destination browser is IE? If you copy the URL from the HTML email and paste it into the location bar of different browsers (Firefox, Chrome, IE) what happens? My initial thought is that it has something to do with the encoding and possibly the settings in your OS. Some rigorous testing would need to be done to narrow down where exactly the issue is occurring. -Sam -- Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Known bug?
On Friday, February 11, 2011, 15:58:53, Sam Brown wrote: That's accurate except in this case. The reason the character shouldn't be used in HTML is because it's a key element in the parsing of URLs (the character separates parameters in the URL). So in this case, where the character is actually in a URL, that is a perfectly appropriate usage of the character as it is separating the key value pairs bar=y and m=baz. No, should always be escaped in HTML - URLs are no exception. The HTML parser sees fooamp;bar=baz and knows that the URL has to be foobar=baz. on it's own is illegal in HTML, however since way too many people incorrectly assume that they can use without escaping it, most browsers will treat without ; following it as if amp; was written. You can see that here: http://eternallybored.org/misc/thebat/test.html - first URL uses amp; properly, second one doesn't. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ The two most common elements in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity. -- Kensington's Observation Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Known bug?
Hello Jernej On Friday, February 11, 2011, 4:55:16 PM, you wrote: No, should always be escaped in HTML - URLs are no exception. But Google search uses for example: http://www.google.com/search?q=ampersandhl=ennum=10lr=lang_enft=icr=safe=imagestbs=lr%3Alang_1en -- Jeff Gaines Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Known bug?
On 2/11/11 12:42 PM, Jeff Gaines wrote: Hello Jernej On Friday, February 11, 2011, 4:55:16 PM, you wrote: No, should always be escaped in HTML - URLs are no exception. But Google search uses for example: http://www.google.com/search?q=ampersandhl=ennum=10lr=lang_enft=icr=safe=imagestbs=lr%3Alang_1en You aren't seeing the escapes behind the scene. While you may see that in your browser, if you look at the source you will see amp instead of the ampersand. JBB Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Known bug?
Hi On Friday 11 February 2011 at 10:22:13 AM, in mid:137386865.2011022...@eternallybored.org, Jernej Simoncic wrote: On Friday, February 11, 2011, 10:56:56, Akebono Translation Service wrote: P.S. The mail is encoded in utf-8 and the source clearly says ym, not µ If the source says something like a href=http://www.example.com/foo?bar=ym=baz; that's illegal HTML, Which suggests a bug in whatever software created the HTML email message in question, rather than in TB! as the receiving mail app. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com Can you imagine a world with no hypothetical situations? Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Known bug?
On Friday, February 11, 2011, 19:41:20, Jonathan Bayer wrote: You aren't seeing the escapes behind the scene. While you may see that in your browser, if you look at the source you will see amp instead of the ampersand. It really depends - some of Google's URLs use amp; and others use just . -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ On the TV screen, pure drivel tends to drive off ordinary drivel. -- Kitman's Law Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
