Re[5]: PGP and auto decrypt - was Re: New proposed ideas / features for The Bat
Hi tracer, Wednesday, October 27, 1999, 11:50:46 AM, you wrote: t what unlock password.. t Use cabmanager and it unlocks without even asking for one t Its an executable cab file, right click and you see if cabmanager is t installed all the files, just drag them to a directory, no password t required (g) Oh yes, just tried it with RAR, still not worth the bother though, I could not get it to do a fetch all accounts so gave up. Thanks for the tip anyway. -- Best regards, Mark -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[4]: PGP and auto decrypt - was Re: New proposed ideas / features for The Bat
Wednesday, October 27, 1999 Hello Mark, Tuesday, Tuesday, October 26, 1999, you wrote: Mark Hi Patrick, Mark Tuesday, October 26, 1999, 4:21:24 PM, you wrote: PE mh.. just had a look at the screenshots. they claim to be pmmail2000 PE shots but actually show pmmail/98 at the top of the window... seems PE that not so much has changed... and we aliens outside of the US don't PE get the PGP-version either... ;( Mark You can if you lie on the form and use a .com address :) but it seems Mark little changed from PMM98 even the unlock password is the same what unlock password.. Use cabmanager and it unlocks without even asking for one Its an executable cab file, right click and you see if cabmanager is installed all the files, just drag them to a directory, no password required (g) Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.36 mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: PGP and auto decrypt - was Re: New proposed ideas / features for The Bat
Tuesday, October 26, 1999, 3:03:15 AM, Patrick wrote: where did you get /this/ version from? i waited for a year for a new version of PMmail but eventualy bought the bat last week... mh... PMMail2000 was released Oct. 15th after PMMail98 and PMMail/2 were sold from Southsoft to BSW. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: PGP and auto decrypt - was Re: New proposed ideas / features for The Bat
hallo Steve! on Tuesday, October 26, 1999, 3:51:23 PM, you wrote: SL Tuesday, October 26, 1999, 3:03:15 AM, Patrick wrote: where did you get /this/ version from? i waited for a year for a new version of PMmail but eventualy bought the bat last week... mh... SL PMMail2000 was released Oct. 15th after PMMail98 and PMMail/2 were sold SL from Southsoft to BSW. and where can i get it from? a search for pmmail and bsw didn't help... -- PAT vcard/LDAP/PGP public key: http://dresden-online.com/~perler/identity.html PGP fingerprint: DAC6 2FDA 1ED7 AD55 BD1F 5142 3D5F 72BF -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: New proposed ideas / features for The Bat
Hallo Steve, On Monday, October 25, 1999, 11:24:47 PM (GMT+0800), Steve Lamb wrote: RM + A new checkbox inside a Adress Entry Property: RM "Always encrypt outgoing E-mail to this user" (PGP) Agree. SL While I agree with this you are aware this is possible with templates, SL right? Just saw it - I can specify specific tempaltes in the addressbook. Actually, I only ooked after I saw your reply. RM + A new checkbox inside a Adress Entry Property: RM "Always decrypt incoming E-Mail from this user (every Email-Adress RM he has!) and save it decrypted!" Wouldn't do anything for me - I would never use automatic decryption or store decrypted mails. You never know who seizes your computer... SL Flat out silly. I love your style. ;-) SL I'm sorry, but there is no risk of anything from automatically SL decrypting or verifying signatures. I think it is absurd that TB! SL doesn't do that nor does it hide the PGP envelope. I don't actually know "the PGP envelope" is, but I do know that other people who use my computer cannot read encrypted mails without my passphrase. -- Cheers, Thomas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.36 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366 Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: PGP and auto decrypt - was Re: New proposed ideas / features for The Bat
hallo Ali! on Tuesday, October 26, 1999, 4:59:26 PM, you wrote: AM Hi all, AM On Tuesday, October 26, 1999, 9:10:47 AM (-5 GMT), Patrick scribbled: where did you get /this/ version from? i waited for a year for a new version of PMmail but eventualy bought the bat last week... mh... SL PMMail2000 was released Oct. 15th after PMMail98 and PMMail/2 were sold SL from Southsoft to BSW. and where can i get it from? a search for pmmail and bsw didn't help... AM The link is: AM http://www.blueprintsoftwareworks.com/ mh.. just had a look at the screenshots. they claim to be pmmail2000 shots but actually show pmmail/98 at the top of the window... seems that not so much has changed... and we aliens outside of the US don't get the PGP-version either... ;( PAT -- PAT vcard/LDAP/PGP public key: http://dresden-online.com/~perler/identity.html PGP fingerprint: DAC6 2FDA 1ED7 AD55 BD1F 5142 3D5F 72BF -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[3]: PGP and auto decrypt - was Re: New proposed ideas / features for The Bat
Hi Patrick, Tuesday, October 26, 1999, 4:21:24 PM, you wrote: PE mh.. just had a look at the screenshots. they claim to be pmmail2000 PE shots but actually show pmmail/98 at the top of the window... seems PE that not so much has changed... and we aliens outside of the US don't PE get the PGP-version either... ;( You can if you lie on the form and use a .com address :) but it seems little changed from PMM98 even the unlock password is the same -- Best regards, Mark -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: PGP and auto decrypt - was Re: New proposed ideas / features for The Bat
Hi all, On Tuesday, October 26, 1999, 11:31:17 AM (-5 GMT), Mark scribbled: You can if you lie on the form and use a .com address :) but it seems little changed from PMM98 even the unlock password is the same Yeah, I just had a look at it and it's pretty much the same except for a print template which I don't remember seeing in the previous version. The Bat! certainly dwarfs it in overall functionality. -- Regards, -=Ali=- "What a depressingly stupid machine," said Marvin and trudged away. *---* Using The Bat! 1.36 on Windows NT 4.0 (Service Pack 5) *---* -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[4]: PGP and auto decrypt - was Re: New proposed ideas / features for The Bat
hallo Mark! on Tuesday, October 26, 1999, 6:31:17 PM, you wrote: MA Hi Patrick, MA Tuesday, October 26, 1999, 4:21:24 PM, you wrote: PE mh.. just had a look at the screenshots. they claim to be pmmail2000 PE shots but actually show pmmail/98 at the top of the window... seems PE that not so much has changed... and we aliens outside of the US don't PE get the PGP-version either... ;( MA You can if you lie on the form and use a .com address :) but it seems MA little changed from PMM98 even the unlock password is the same no, usualy this is not enough. i have a .com email as you see and lie usualy ;) but they resolve the ip the request is sent from and this resolves in my case to ...nikoma.de which leads them to the complete wrong assumption that i'm not in the US... ;)) -- PAT vcard/LDAP/PGP public key: http://dresden-online.com/~perler/identity.html PGP fingerprint: DAC6 2FDA 1ED7 AD55 BD1F 5142 3D5F 72BF -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: PGP and auto decrypt - was Re: New proposed ideas / features for The Bat
Tuesday, October 26, 1999, 9:39:49 AM, Ali wrote: The Bat! certainly dwarfs it in overall functionality. True. But PMMail's interface and the functionality it does have is quite polished. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: New proposed ideas / features for The Bat
Sunday, October 24, 1999, 10:42:51 PM, Thomas wrote: RM + A new checkbox inside a Adress Entry Property: RM "Always encrypt outgoing E-mail to this user" (PGP) Agree. While I agree with this you are aware this is possible with templates, right? RM + A new checkbox inside a Adress Entry Property: RM "Always decrypt incoming E-Mail from this user (every Email-Adress RM he has!) and save it decrypted!" Wouldn't do anything for me - I would never use automatic decryption or store decrypted mails. You never know who seizes your computer... Flat out silly. I'm sorry, but there is no risk of anything from automatically decrypting or verifying signatures. I think it is absurd that TB! doesn't do that nor does it hide the PGP envelope. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+-
Re: New proposed ideas / features for The Bat
Hi Roman, on Monday, October 25, 1999, 4:38:11 AM GMT+0800, Roman Meng wrote: RM I discoverd the bat only a few days ago, but I think its one of the RM best Mailers on the market (maybe the best!). *I* think it is, too. ;-) RM + Encrypt the attachments too if the whole mail is encrypted! RM Or at minimum warn them, that attachments won't be encrypted, How about a dialog box: "do you want attachment encrypted, too? Y/N" However, I cannot think of a situation in which you'd want to encrypt the message but not the attachment. RM + A new checkbox inside a Adress Entry Property: RM "Always encrypt outgoing E-mail to this user" (PGP) Agree. RM (it would simply add %ENCRYPTCOMPLETE to the mail, cause it's RM no solution at the moment to write a specific template for every RM user containing %ENCRYPTCOMPLETE. And in the general templates RM its not useful (There are always some people that don't have PGP)) But maybe there's a workaround: If they don't have PGP, you won't have their public key, so TB can't encrypt. Right? RM + A new checkbox inside a Adress Entry Property: RM "Always decrypt incoming E-Mail from this user (every Email-Adress RM he has!) and save it decrypted!" Wouldn't do anything for me - I would never use automatic decryption or store decrypted mails. You never know who seizes your computer... RM If you really think, this is to unsecure, than you should save it RM encrypted, but display it decrypted (means decrypt it every time RM he wants to take a look at it! (and prompting for password if not RM cached)) The cache part about the password just svaed you ;-) However, I don't know whether it's my machine, but decryption freezes everything for a couple, ten seconds. So, I decrypt it, reply, then delete the decrypted version. RM BTW, If I (in the current version 1.36) decrypt a Mail, then a RM second message will be generated an that one will be saved RM decrypted. So, it can't be worse to decrypt it automatically RM and save it without manual work of the user. Same thing. I don't keep decrypted versions of mails that I choose to encrypt. RM + Possibility to switch the "Get new Mail" - button in the main-toolbar RM to a "Check Mail for All", cause its annoying to always try to click RM it over the arrow-menu and it isn't easy to press the HotKey (Alt-F2) I do both (Alt-F2 or the arrow thing), depending on my mood, and find them both convenient. I like it that the on-eclick will check only this specific account. RM + Possibility to switch the "Send queued Mail" - button in the main-toolbar RM to a "Send Mail from All". Same reason as before (but worse, ever tried to RM press Alt-Shift-F2 with one hand?) I have all accounts on "Combined Delivery", so it does not matter whether I click "check" or "send". Thus, Alt-F2 will also "send all". RM Maybe the last two points can be done over a global "Switch to Get and RM Send All Mode" Checkbox inside the preferences? I didn't quite get this. You do know about the Account/Properties/Transport/Combined Delivery checkbox, right? -- Best regards, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.36 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
