Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-24 Thread Martin Webster on tbudl
Hello Allie, 

On 23 May 2005, 21:43 you wrote:

 If only women came with pulldown menus and online help.

...and a reset button. ;-)


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Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-24 Thread Manuel Breitfeld

Hi Martin,
   -- 24.05.2005 08:58 +0100:


If only women came with pulldown menus and online help.

...and a reset button. ;-)


I thought they do have buttons.
... nice day to you all. ;)

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Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-24 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Martin.

--On 24 May 2005 08:58 +0100 you wrote about Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!:


 ..and a reset button. ;-)

A Shut your gob button would be nice too :)

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Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-24 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Allie.

--On 23 May 2005 18:06 -0500 you wrote about Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!:


 Just installed PGP 9 and it seams that the internal support for PGP 9 is
 not working. Any hints, or am i missing something.
 
 I had initially had it working. This was when I had previously had PGP8
 installed, and then ran the PGP9 installation without first uninstalling
 PGP8.

Same problem, I just tried it. The Bat! also looks for a txt file rather
than an xml file. PGP9 now works fine with TB!

I see what you mean Allie about the whole PGP program popping up just to
verify a message.

To get PGP9 working with TB! you need to create a text file called
PGPprefs.txt

In that file needs to be the path to your PGP keyring in this format, each
line needs to be on one whole line:

PublicKeyringFile=C:\Documents and Settings\Tony\My
Documents\PGP\pubring.pkr
PrivateKeyringFile=C:\Documents and Settings\Tony\My
Documents\PGP\secring.skr

Edit the paths to your own name obviously. Then save that file to Docs and
Settings\Username\Application data\PGP corporation\PGP\PGPprefs.txt

RIT Labs need to update the pgp.dll to look for an xml pref file as well as
a txt pref file.

God Allie we're good 'aint we :)

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Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-24 Thread Mark Partous
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Hello Tony,

Tuesday, May 24, 2005, 2:44:39 PM, you wrote:

TB God Allie we're good 'aint we :)

:-)

Besides that, is it (not the both of you, but PGP9) worth upgrading?

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Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-24 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Mark.

--On 24 May 2005 15:33 +0200 you wrote about Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!:


 Besides that, is it (not the both of you, but PGP9) worth upgrading?

That's for you to decide. I got fed up with all the agro I was getting with
trial versions or free Gnu versions, it was a confidence thing, so in an
attempt to get some stability from PGP I fully bought and paid for PGP9
Desktop complete with PGP disk or virtual disk as it now it.

I still have a few minor problems and I've not even asked if my signatures
verify on here at all, but I'm getting there. I personally am glad I bought
it so I'd say yes it is worth it.

There are a few things I don't like, I prefer pre v9 tray right click menu,
with v9 you have to open the whole program to get to PGPkeys and verifying
in TB! opens the whole program interface as well. Apart from that I like
it.  

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Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-24 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Tony,

  A reminder of what Tony Boom on TBUDL typed on:
  24 May 2005 at 16:08:56 GMT +0200

 I still have a few minor problems and I've not even asked if my signatures
 verify on here at all, 

 I doubt they will, I've just fired up TB! and none of them do, not even
 here.

 Is it usual to have to wait 30-45 seconds for a message to appear in an
 IMAP folder with TB!?

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Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-24 Thread Mark Partous
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Hello Tony,

TB I still have a few minor problems and I've not even asked if my signatures
TB verify on here at all, but I'm getting there.

I got a bad signature for this one...



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Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-24 Thread Mark Partous

Hello Tony,

Tuesday, May 24, 2005, 4:02:09 PM, you wrote:

TB That's for you to decide. I got fed up with all the agro I was getting with
TB trial versions or free Gnu versions, it was a confidence thing, so in an
TB attempt to get some stability from PGP I fully bought and paid for PGP9
TB Desktop complete with PGP disk or virtual disk as it now it.

I haven't bought anything on the internet yet since I found out my visa card
had been charged for 230 $ for an online casino with address in London. :-(

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Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-24 Thread Tony Boom
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Hello Mark.

- --On 24 May 2005 17:35 +0200 you wrote about Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!:


 I got a bad signature for this one...

They should all be bad on TBUDL and TBBETA. They don't even register as
digital signatures here, even though I signed them.

I'm working on that too but I've a feeling it an idiosyncrasy of the
dutaint lists. Try this one?

- -- 

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M.
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Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-24 Thread Tony Boom
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Hash: SHA1

Hello Mark.

- --On 24 May 2005 17:37 +0200 you wrote about Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!:


 I haven't bought anything on the internet yet since I found out my visa
 card had been charged for 230 $ for an online casino with address in
 London. :-(

Ooops. I use mine all the time.

- -- 

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M.
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Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-24 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Tony,

On Tue, 24 May 2005 16:47:28 +0100GMT (24-5-2005, 17:47 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

TB I'm working on that too but I've a feeling it an idiosyncrasy of the
TB dutaint lists. Try this one?

Verifies ok.

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Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-24 Thread Mark Partous

Hello Tony,

Tuesday, May 24, 2005, 5:47:28 PM, you wrote:

TB I'm working on that too but I've a feeling it an idiosyncrasy of the
TB dutaint lists. Try this one?

I get OK PGP verified for this one...

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Re[2]: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-24 Thread danger

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Hello Roelof,

Tuesday, May 24, 2005, 11:59:13 AM, you wrote:

RO Hallo Tony,

RO On Tue, 24 May 2005 16:47:28 +0100GMT (24-5-2005, 17:47 +0200, where I
RO live), you wrote:

TB I'm working on that too but I've a feeling it an idiosyncrasy of the
TB dutaint lists. Try this one?

RO Verifies ok.


Works fine here too back at you PGP9

- --
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 dangermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-24 Thread Tony Boom
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Hello Roelof.

- --On 24 May 2005 17:59 +0200 you wrote about Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!:


 Verifies ok.

It's clear signed though, not MIME, not ideal but the only way I can get a
verification on these lists.

- -- 

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Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-24 Thread Tony Boom
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Hash: SHA1

Hello Mark.

- --On 24 May 2005 18:08 +0200 you wrote about Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!:


 I get OK PGP verified for this one...

Clear signed, not MIME.

- -- 

Tony.

M.
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Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-24 Thread Allie Martin
Hi Tony,
   On 24/05/2005 01:44 PM +0100, you wrote:

 God Allie we're good 'aint we :)

Yeah. Good work!!

PGP9 was assimilated. ;)

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Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-24 Thread Allie Martin
Hi Tony,
   On 24/05/2005 03:02 PM +0100, you wrote:

 There are a few things I don't like, I prefer pre v9 tray right click
 menu, with v9 you have to open the whole program to get to PGPkeys
 and verifying in TB! opens the whole program interface as well. Apart
 from that I like it.  

Maybe this will be a cue for TB! to start auto-checking PGP signatures.
It's really about time it began doing this. The usability of PGP/GnuPG
makes a huge leap with that.

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Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-24 Thread Allie Martin
Hi Mark,
   On 24/05/2005 05:37 PM +0200, you wrote:

 I haven't bought anything on the internet yet since I found out my
 visa card had been charged for 230 $ for an online casino with
 address in London. :-(

May as well return the card. You're still vulnerable and really can't
be sure that your card was compromised on the Internet.

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Re: Re[2]: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-24 Thread Tony Boom
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Hello danger.

- --On 24 May 2005 12:20 -0400 you wrote about Re[2]: PGP 9 ans TheBat!:


 Works fine here too back at you PGP9

*** PGP SIGNATURE VERIFICATION ***
*** Status:   Good Signature
*** Signer:   danger [EMAIL PROTECTED] (0x29E74338)
*** Signed:   24/05/2005 17:20:46
*** Verified: 24/05/2005 17:40:37
*** BEGIN PGP VERIFIED MESSAGE ***

- -- 

Tony.

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Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-24 Thread Tony Boom
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Hello Allie.

- --On 24 May 2005 11:31 -0500 you wrote about Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!:


 PGP9 was assimilated. ;)

No problem for The Caribbean English Alliance. Now where's that big bad
black Jedi geezer with the funny torch, we'll sort him out next :) 

Did you get the file I sent by the way?

- -- 

Tony.

M.
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Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-24 Thread Mark Partous

Hello Allie,

Tuesday, May 24, 2005, 6:36:13 PM, you wrote:

AM May as well return the card. You're still vulnerable and really can't
AM be sure that your card was compromised on the Internet.

The day I found out, the card was canceled immediatly. See TBOT (tomorrow I'm
awake for 22 hours, time to stop).

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Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-24 Thread Allie Martin
Hi Tony,
   On 24/5/2005 5:47 PM +0100, you wrote:

 Did you get the file I sent by the way?

What file? :/

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PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-23 Thread Thomas Martin
Hello TB List,

Just installed PGP 9 and it seams that the internal support for PGP 9 is
not working. Any hints, or am i missing something.

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Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-23 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Thomas.

--On 23 May 2005 12:55 -0300 you wrote about PGP 9 ans TheBat!:


 Just installed PGP 9 and it seams that the internal support for PGP 9 is
 not working. Any hints, or am i missing something.

I tried it as well and The Bat! won't work with PGP9. However there is
another way, Allie will shout at me for telling you this but try enabling
email proxy in PGP9. It works here with no problems.

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Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-23 Thread Allie Martin
Hi Tony,
   On 23/5/2005 4:59 PM +0100, you wrote:

 I tried it as well and The Bat! won't work with PGP9. However there is
 another way, Allie will shout at me for telling you this but try
 enabling email proxy in PGP9. It works here with no problems.

LOL!!!

I'd try the usual way first, yes.

However, for me, I had simply installed PGP9 and then opened TB! and it
worked. I did nothing else. shrug

What happens Peter? Nothing?

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Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-23 Thread Martin Webster on tbudl
Hello Tony, 

On 23 May 2005, 16:59 you wrote:

 I tried it as well and The Bat! won't work with PGP9. However there is
 another way, Allie will shout at me for telling you this but try enabling
 email proxy in PGP9. It works here with no problems.

Does this explain why your message ID is always something like
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]? Or is this the IP
address assigned by your router? Either way, TB! can't locate a
message with this type of ID. Same goes for Allie's messages, e.g.
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED].


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Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-23 Thread Allie Martin
Hi Martin,
   On 23/5/2005 5:19 PM +0100, you wrote:

 Does this explain why your message ID is always something like
 mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]? Or is this the IP
 address assigned by your router? Either way, TB! can't locate a
 message with this type of ID. Same goes for Allie's messages, e.g.
 mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED].

.. and here I was liking it, since my domain name isn't included in the
message id. :(

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Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-23 Thread Martin Webster on tbudl
Hello Allie, 

On 23 May 2005, 17:39 you wrote:

 Does this explain why your message ID is always something like
 mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]? Or is this the IP
 address assigned by your router? Either way, TB! can't locate a
 message with this type of ID. Same goes for Allie's messages, e.g.
 mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED].

 .. and here I was liking it, since my domain name isn't included in the
 message id. :(

Do these IP-based message IDs work with *cough* mU1b3rry?

:-)


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Re[2]: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-23 Thread Alexander IMAP Kunz
Hello Martin Webster on tbudl  everyone else,

on 23-Mai-2005 at 18:46 you (Martin Webster on tbudl) wrote:

 .. and here I was liking it, since my domain name isn't included in the
 message id. :(

 Do these IP-based message IDs work with *cough* mU1b3rry?
 :-)

Sorry to hijack this thread, I just had to place a reply somewhere using
the IMAP account I just created. I'm a 11 customer just like Tony, and I
just created an IMAP account in TB to access my mails  see if they thread
or not, as I still don't see how an *incoming* mail server like IMAP would
affect *outgoing* mails that are sent via SMTP, no matter if its POP or
IMAP.

Btw. I manually fixed the first reference
[EMAIL PROTECTED] while replying, so that was not a
miracle work of TB. :-)

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Re: Re[2]: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-23 Thread Manuel Breitfeld

Hi Alexander,
   -- 23.05.2005 18:53 +0200:


I just created an IMAP account in TB

Nice middle name. ;)

Threading seems okay.

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Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-23 Thread Alexander IMAP Kunz
Hello Alexander,

Monday, May 23, 2005, 6:53:05 PM, you wrote:

 Sorry to hijack this thread, I just had to place a reply somewhere
 using

So... it threads just fine... using the same provider... but TB as a client
instead...

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Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-23 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Martin.

--On 23 May 2005 17:19 +0100 you wrote about Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!:


 Does this explain why your message ID is always something like

No, that's nothing to do with PGP. That IP is the one issued to this PC by
my router... You don't want me to get rid of that as well do you?

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Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-23 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Allie.

--On 23 May 2005 11:12 -0500 you wrote about Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!:


 However, for me, I had simply installed PGP9 and then opened TB! and it
 worked. I did nothing else. shrug

Just exactly what have I done to deserve this? I'm a good person, law
abiding, looking after under privileged children, don't do drugs, don't go
to pubs, don't do sex much either. I must have been really bad in a
previous life! 

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Re[2]: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-23 Thread Alexander IMAP Kunz
Hello Tony Boom  everyone else,

on 23-Mai-2005 at 19:07 you (Tony Boom) wrote:

 Does this explain why your message ID is always something like

 No, that's nothing to do with PGP. That IP is the one issued to this PC by
 my router... You don't want me to get rid of that as well do you?

The interesting thing is that everyone using Mulberry has MID's that end
with their local IP address instead of their local domain.

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Re[4]: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-23 Thread Alexander IMAP Kunz
Hello Manuel Breitfeld  everyone else,

on 23-Mai-2005 at 19:04 you (Manuel Breitfeld) wrote:

 I just created an IMAP account in TB

 Nice middle name. ;)

Just to keep them apart.

 Threading seems okay.

Your message, too... and you're using Mulberry... u... (eh? was that
the distant sound of Tony banging his head onto a wall? ;-)

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Re: Re[4]: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-23 Thread Manuel Breitfeld

Hi Alexander,
   -- 23.05.2005 19:07 +0200:


and you're using Mulberry... u... (eh? was that
the distant sound of Tony banging his head onto a wall? ;-)


Long before Tony in trial period. ;)

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Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-23 Thread Thomas Martin
Hello Tony,

on Monday, 23. May 2005, at 16:59:55 [GMT +0100] you wrote regarding
PGP 9 ans TheBat!:

 Just installed PGP 9 and it seams that the internal support for PGP 9 is
 not working. Any hints, or am i missing something.

 I tried it as well and The Bat! won't work with PGP9. However there is
 another way, Allie will shout at me for telling you this but try enabling
 email proxy in PGP9. It works here with no problems.

Hm, somebody knows if in there will be a plugin or an internal support
for PGP 9 in the future?

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Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-23 Thread Martin Webster on tbudl
Hello Alexander, 

On 23 May 2005, 18:10 you wrote:

 Does this explain why your message ID is always something like

 No, that's nothing to do with PGP. That IP is the one issued to this PC by
 my router... You don't want me to get rid of that as well do you?

To answer Tony's message first... I thought it could be your router.
However, I would have thought that your machine would be identified by
its name and local domain.

 The interesting thing is that everyone using Mulberry has MID's that end
 with their local IP address instead of their local domain.

I had noticed this and wondered if it was a coincidence or not.
Nonetheless, should TB! working with IP-based message IDs?

Also, will you try Mulberry with 11?


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Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-23 Thread Mark Partous

Hello Tony,

Monday, May 23, 2005, 7:04:12 PM, you wrote:

 However, for me, I had simply installed PGP9 and then opened TB! and it
 worked. I did nothing else. shrug

TB Just exactly what have I done to deserve this?
TB I'm a good person,
OK...

TB law abiding,
Nice...

TB looking after under privileged children,
Even better than average...

TB don't do drugs,
Fine...

TB don't go to pubs,
Wouldn't even be a problem as long as not exaggerated...

TB don't do sex much either.
Oh-Oh must be the lying that does it!   :-)



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Re: Re[2]: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-23 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Alexander.

--On 23 May 2005 18:53 +0200 you wrote about Re[2]: PGP 9 ans TheBat!:


 I'm a 11 customer just like Tony, and I just created an IMAP account in
 TB to access my mails  see if they thread or not

Like I said, they will. The Bat! doesn't yet handle IMAP the way it should
but that's not the point. Mulberry handle IMAP to the very letter of any
RFC law and that's why it's happening, it's not getting the correct
response from the server.

Tell me Alex, does this one thread properly? If I'm right, I suspect it
will and I#ve not doctored the headers in anyway.

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Re: Re[2]: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-23 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Alexander.

--On 23 May 2005 18:53 +0200 you wrote about Re[2]: PGP 9 ans TheBat!:


 Sorry to hijack this thread, I just had to place a reply somewhere using
 the IMAP account I just created. I'm a 11 customer just like Tony, and I
 just created an IMAP account in TB to access my mails  see if they thread
 or not, as I still don't see how an *incoming* mail server like IMAP would
 affect *outgoing* mails that are sent via SMTP, no matter if its POP or
 IMAP.

It only happens with Mulberry, not The Bat for reasons discussed at length
last week.

And it's nothing to do with SMTP, it's when you reply to a post that's
stored on your IMAP server. Forget the SMTP side of it, that has nothing to
do with it.

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Re: Re[2]: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-23 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Manuel.

--On 23 May 2005 19:04 +0200 you wrote about Re: Re[2]: PGP 9 ans TheBat!:


 Threading seems okay.

Your not listening to me are you?

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Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-23 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Alexander.

--On 23 May 2005 19:06 +0200 you wrote about Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!:


 So... it threads just fine... using the same provider... but TB as a
 client instead...

This one will thread OK as well, not with TB! as a client.

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Re: Re[4]: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-23 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Alexander.

--On 23 May 2005 19:07 +0200 you wrote about Re[4]: PGP 9 ans TheBat!:


 Your message, too... and you're using Mulberry... u... (eh? was that
 the distant sound of Tony banging his head onto a wall? ;-)

No, why would I need to do that? Your the one who's not playing the same
game as me.

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Re: Re[2]: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-23 Thread Manuel Breitfeld

Hi Tony,
   -- 23.05.2005 18:52 +0100:


Tell me Alex, does this one thread properly? If I'm right, I suspect it
will and I#ve not doctored the headers in anyway.


Me is not Alex, but unfortunatelly your message has *no* references at all. 
Therefore it can't be threading in any way.


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Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-23 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Thomas.

--On 23 May 2005 14:24 -0300 you wrote about Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!:


 Hm, somebody knows if in there will be a plugin or an internal support
 for PGP 9 in the future?

That's one for the developers.

Oh look, it threads :)

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Re: Re[2]: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-23 Thread Manuel Breitfeld

Hi Tony,
   -- 23.05.2005 18:56 +0100:


Threading seems okay.


Your not listening to me are you?


I am, Tony, I am. Just wanted to confirm Alex' question.
I know that Mulberry gets the wrong information from your server whereas 
TB!  doesn't fetch the information from the server and does everything on 
its own, which doesn't fit 100% into IMAP specification.


Correct? ;-)

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Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-23 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Tony Boom  everyone else,

on 23-Mai-2005 at 19:52 you (Tony Boom) wrote:

 Tell me Alex, does this one thread properly? If I'm right, I suspect it
 will and I#ve not doctored the headers in anyway.

No threading at all.

Well, the one thing I learn from this is... I'll keep my hands off of IMAP.
With all those different (buggy) server types that need special care by one
or the other client, its a no-no for me. :-)

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Re: Re[4]: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-23 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Alexander.

--On 23 May 2005 19:07 +0200 you wrote about Re[4]: PGP 9 ans TheBat!:


 Your message, too... and you're using Mulberry... u... (eh? was that
 the distant sound of Tony banging his head onto a wall? ;-)

Why don't people listen? He uses Mulberry yes, he doesn't however use 1and1.

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Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-23 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Mark.

--On 23 May 2005 19:38 +0200 you wrote about Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!:


TB don't do sex much either.
 Oh-Oh must be the lying that does it!   :-)

OK, you got me. But only 4 or 5 times a week, nothing like when I was
younger.

I do have the odd glass of red wine or 3 every night as well... But I don't
go down the Pub, honest!

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Re: Re[2]: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-23 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Manuel.

--On 23 May 2005 20:00 +0200 you wrote about Re: Re[2]: PGP 9 ans TheBat!:


 Me is not Alex, but unfortunatelly your message has *no* references at
 all. Therefore it can't be threading in any way.

Don't you start, I thought you was on my side :)

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Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-23 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Martin.

--On 23 May 2005 18:33 +0100 you wrote about Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!:


 Also, will you try Mulberry with 11?

If he does try Mulberry with 1and1 IMAP then we must remember his server is
in Germany, mine is in England... They may not be affected by the same
problems.

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Re: Re[2]: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-23 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Manuel.

--On 23 May 2005 20:03 +0200 you wrote about Re: Re[2]: PGP 9 ans TheBat!:


 I am, Tony, I am. Just wanted to confirm Alex' question.
 I know that Mulberry gets the wrong information from your server whereas
 TB!  doesn't fetch the information from the server and does everything on
 its own, which doesn't fit 100% into IMAP specification.
 
 Correct? ;-)

That is how it was explained to me by a very proficient IMAP guru. No, he's
not on this list :) But then again your on the list he's on so you probably
read his explanation as well.

In fact your explanation is so right I had to quote it all for Alex' sake.

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Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-23 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Alexander.

--On 23 May 2005 20:09 +0200 you wrote about Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!:


 No threading at all.

After this post I promise my threading will be OK.
 
 Well, the one thing I learn from this is... I'll keep my hands off of
 IMAP. With all those different (buggy) server types that need special
 care by one or the other client, its a no-no for me. :-)

Defeatist :)

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OT: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-23 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Tony,

Monday, May 23, 2005, 12:38:13 PM, you wrote:
T OK, you got me. But only 4 or 5 times a week, nothing like when I
T was younger.

T I do have the odd glass of red wine or 3 every night as well... But
T I don't go down the Pub, honest!


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Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-23 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Tony Boom  everyone else,

on 23-Mai-2005 at 20:34 you (Tony Boom) wrote:

 Also, will you try Mulberry with 11?

 If he does try Mulberry with 1and1 IMAP then we must remember his server is
 in Germany, mine is in England... They may not be affected by the same
 problems.

Nah, I won't waste my time with this and litter the list with more
Mulberry and 11 IMAP servers in the UK off-topic babbling. :-)


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Re: OT: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-23 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Leif.

--On 23 May 2005 12:44 -0600 you wrote about OT: PGP 9 ans TheBat!:


  Please don't feel singled out Tony.

You just got the hump 'cos I get my leg over more than you :)

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Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-23 Thread Gerard

ON Monday, May 23, 2005, 7:04:12 PM, you wrote:
TB Just exactly what have I done to deserve this? I'm a good person, law
TB abiding, looking after under privileged children, don't do drugs, don't go
TB to pubs, don't do sex much either. I must have been really bad in a
TB previous life! 

Hi Tony,

I don know but you are missing a lot of the fun things ;-)
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Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-23 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Gerard.

--On 23 May 2005 21:08 +0200 you wrote about Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!:


 I don know but you are missing a lot of the fun things ;-)

Shhh, can't stop, kids are all in bed asleep. Must get on... If you'll
excuse the pun :)

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Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-23 Thread Allie Martin
Hi Thomas,
   On 23/5/2005 2:24 PM -0300, you wrote:

 Hm, somebody knows if in there will be a plugin or an internal support
 for PGP 9 in the future?

I had it working fine in TB! just before removing it for other reasons.
I think the current PGP support will tango with PGP9.

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Re: PGP 9 ans TheBat!

2005-05-23 Thread Allie Martin
On Monday, May 23, 2005 at 10:55:35 AM [GMT -0500], Thomas Martin wrote:

 Just installed PGP 9 and it seams that the internal support for PGP 9 is
 not working. Any hints, or am i missing something.

I had initially had it working. This was when I had previously had PGP8
installed, and then ran the PGP9 installation without first uninstalling
PGP8.

I had since remove PGP from the system after having some other problems.
I decided to try again and reinstalled PGP9. The experience is now
different and I think it's because I did a fresh installation on this
occasion, rather than installing without first uninstalling PGP8.
PGP9 no longer works with TB!.

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