Re: Playing with BayesIT macros
ON Tuesday, August 3, 2004, 5:46:20 PM, you wrote: MLW QT SpamCount= MLW ==Spam Stats, last 24 hours (%BAYESITVERSION) MLW Total Spam Emails: %STATSPAMLETTERS(24) MLW Total Clean Emails: %STATNONSPAMLETTERS(24) MLW BayesIT guessed right MLW %calculate=100-(%STATSPAMERLETTERS(24)/%STATSPAMLETTERS(24))%% of MLW the time MLW My email is MLW %calculate=%STATNONSPAMLETTERS(24)/%STATSPAMLETTERS(24)%% spam MLW = Hi Michael, It looks like you have items switched in the last line. It should be: %calculate=%STATSPAMLETTERS(24)/%STATNONSPAMLETTERS(24)%% spam -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Golfers must learn to love the challenge when they hit a ball into the rough, trees, or sand. The alternatives--anger, fear, whining, and cheating--do no good. Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Playing with BayesIT macros
Hallo Michael, On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 13:38:07 -0700GMT (3-8-2004, 22:38 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MLW After some help with the macros, this is what I have now In that case, here's some additional help. MLW My email is %_Sum=%Calc(%STATSPAMLETTERS(24)+%STATNONSPAMLETTERS(24))%- MLW %_Quot=%Calc(77/%_sum)%- MLW %_Percent=%calc(100*%_quot)%- MLW %_Percent%% spam You're using a fixed number to calculate the spam/total quotient, just as if you'd always have 77 spam messages, it should be: %_Quot=%Calc(%StatSpamLetters/%_sum)%- -- Groetjes, Roelof The Bat! 2.12.03 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Playing with BayesIT macros
Tuesday, August 3, 2004, 10:11:49 PM, Michael wrote: JBL Don't forget that Netiquette dictates that the length of the sig JBL should be 4-5 lines maximum. The length of your sig, JBL particularly once you have added BayesIT data, is well in excess JBL of this. Michael I take this view. If people do not want long signatures, then Michael stop writing so many F*ing macros. I like to play with the Michael macros and test them, and now you complain about my sig being Michael too long. oh well. Wow, Michael! Take a deep breath and relax. If I had this same attitude with my car then I'd zip through neighborhoods with my foot to the floor winding out the old BMW for all it's worth. After all if I can't use all the horses under the hood/bonnet why were they put there in the first place? But I do not. Know why? I have respect for others, their pursuit of life and happiness, and their environment. I think you do too and may have regretted this note as soon as you sent it. Want to experiment, send notes to yourself or to me. -- Regards, Plan9 A hamburger walks into a bar, and the bartender says, I'm sorry, but we don't serve food here. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Playing with BayesIT macros
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Plan9, On Wednesday, August 04, 2004 , at 09:09:45[GMT -0400](which was 6:09 AM where I live) you wrote (at least in part): P Tuesday, August 3, 2004, 10:11:49 PM, Michael wrote: JBL Don't forget that Netiquette dictates that the length of the sig JBL should be 4-5 lines maximum. The length of your sig, JBL particularly once you have added BayesIT data, is well in excess JBL of this. Michael I take this view. If people do not want long signatures, then Michael stop writing so many F*ing macros. I like to play with the Michael macros and test them, and now you complain about my sig being Michael too long. oh well. P Wow, Michael! Take a deep breath and relax. P If I had this same attitude with my car then I'd zip through P neighborhoods with my foot to the floor winding out the old BMW for P all it's worth. After all if I can't use all the horses under the P hood/bonnet why were they put there in the first place? But I do not. P Know why? I have respect for others, their pursuit of life and P happiness, and their environment. P I think you do too and may have regretted this note as soon as you P sent it. Want to experiment, send notes to yourself or to me. in-out-- ok - -- Michael L. Wilson, MBA :usflag: Ecclesiastic Philosopher Teacher Critic :einsteinyoyo: If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. - - The Bat! 2.13 Lucky Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) ==Spam Stats, last 24 hours (BayesIt! 0.5.9) Total Spam Emails: 115 Total Clean Emails: 127 BayesIT guessed right 99.93913% of the time My email is 31.8182% spam = -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: Big Brother is REALLY watching you iQA/AwUBQREHVG2u7N+Qh+ieEQImzACg3zDdE6O3kd7uAtAWlRYUXqbJFrYAoKUC cNha9Noubxsh19cQrZzJro+x =SIUu -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Playing with BayesIT macros
Hello Christopher, Tuesday, August 3, 2004, 2:44:01 PM, you wrote: Christopher I see a dash space dash dash Christopher it should be dash dash space When a message is signed with PGP/GPG, it converts dash dash space to dash space dash dash. PGP/GPG does this, and there's nothing that can be done about it, so we've always allowed it or we'd have to preclude the use of PGP/GPG on lists (mods always sign their MOD messages). Newer versions of TB recognize the dash space dash dash as a sig delimiter now. -- Leif Gregory (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Tagline of the day: Quick! Get me my colored pencils! I'm having a paradigm shift. -- Paul Callahan Using The Bat! 2.12.03 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Playing with BayesIT macros
Leif- Wednesday, August 4, 2004, 11:23:46 AM, you wrote: LG Newer versions of TB recognize the dash space dash dash as a sig LG delimiter now. Thanks for the clarification. The PGP/GPG thing messing with text has always bothered me. Glad to know TB takes it in stride now. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Playing with BayesIT macros
Michael L. Wilson, [MLW] wrote: I take this view. If people do not want long signatures, then stop writing so many F*ing macros. I like to play with the macros and test them, and now you complain about my sig being too long. oh well. As with Marck and Leif, I've been late on seeing this, but profanity, expressly written or merely implied through the use of easily understood abbreviations or replacement of non-critical letters with other characters, is against list rules. We hope that you'll not do this again in future. Additionally, I do tend to agree with Plan9's sentiments and also think that your signature is too long. Signature length is also mentioned in the list rules. Excessively long signatures tend to irritate discussion list members far more commonly than they make them pleased. Not to mention the larger group that simply ignores long signatures. So, in the end, it's just not a good idea. We therefore officially ask that you shorten your signature to 4-6 lines (not including the PGP sig). Thanks! -- Allie Martin [List Moderator and fellow end-user] The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/2 on WinXP Pro (SP1) . A mind is a terrible thing to ... er ... h? pgpDRMSskw4RL.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Playing with BayesIT macros
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Allie, Would you like things in the body, instead? I simply wonder why people do not like long sigs, yet keep writing macros that are used in sigs. I have a cut mark. = Spam Stats, last 24 hours (BayesIt! 0.5.9) Total Spam Emails: 99 Total Clean Emails: 116 BayesIT guessed right 99.979798% of the time My email is 46.046512% spam = morning dayevening == 17:42 - From this point on, anyone who asks me any questions about the version of The Bat! I am using, the system I am using or any other question that could be answered by a macro in the sig area should be punished. On Wed, 4 Aug 2004, Allie mused about Playing with BayesIT macros (at least in part): AM Michael L. Wilson, [MLW] wrote: I take this view. If people do not want long signatures, then stop writing so many F*ing macros. I like to play with the macros and test them, and now you complain about my sig being too long. oh well. AM As with Marck and Leif, I've been late on seeing this, but profanity, AM expressly written or merely implied through the use of easily AM understood abbreviations or replacement of non-critical letters with AM other characters, is against list rules. We hope that you'll not do AM this again in future. AM Additionally, I do tend to agree with Plan9's sentiments and also AM think that your signature is too long. Signature length is also AM mentioned in the list rules. Excessively long signatures tend to AM irritate discussion list members far more commonly than they make them AM pleased. Not to mention the larger group that simply ignores long AM signatures. So, in the end, it's just not a good idea. AM We therefore officially ask that you shorten your signature to 4-6 AM lines (not including the PGP sig). Thanks! - -- Michael -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: Big Brother is REALLY watching you iQA+AwUBQRGC/W2u7N+Qh+ieEQL99ACgwy4ZYZ2ZGmu/pStk11k7kqJB70sAmJCF af3gWmDvYGvnsJMKUJCbJLk= =3y0I -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Playing with BayesIT macros
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Zonnet, This looks like a 7 line sig: 4-6 lines please On Tue, 3 Aug 2004, Zonnet mused about Playing with BayesIT macros (at least in part): Z ON Tuesday, August 3, 2004, 7:22:50 AM, you wrote: MLW I have been playing with BayesIT macros to create statistics on the MLW bottom of this email. If there is interest, I will post what I did. MLW If anyone else is using the macros for stats, please show results MLW here. Z Hi Michael, Z I ma not using them right now but I am stll interested in your Z implementation, so please post it here. - -- Michael L. Wilson, MBA :usflag: Ecclesiastic Philosopher Teacher Critic :einsteinyoyo: If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. - - The Bat! 2.13 Lucky Beta/2 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) = Spam Stats, last 24 hours (BayesIt! 0.5.9) Total Spam Emails: 99 Total Clean Emails: 116 BayesIT guessed right 99.979798% of the time My email is 46.046512% spam = -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: Big Brother is REALLY watching you iQA/AwUBQRGDWm2u7N+Qh+ieEQKPCQCdEaYsp0ny37sjUHNDnI2KDH6TU4QAniuD fQw0N2cV3XOgwI0MpP/1wkKj =5b1Q -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Playing with BayesIT macros
Michael L. Wilson, [MLW] wrote: Would you like things in the body, instead? No. I simply wonder why people do not like long sigs, yet keep writing macros that are used in sigs. Do you use all of TB!'s features since they're all there to be used, or do you use the features you need? In the same way, why use all the macros merely because they're provided Your argument is not making sense. I have a cut mark. Merely using a cutmark doesn't address all the problems with a long signature. The main problem in the context of a discussion list is the repeated transmission of that extra data to all members of the list. The bandwidth dramatically adds up. A sensible limit is therefore proposed. 4-6 lines of sig provides ample means to give the necessary information that deserves being sent with all your messages. = Spam Stats, last 24 hours (BayesIt! 0.5.9) Total Spam Emails: 99 Total Clean Emails: 116 BayesIT guessed right 99.979798% of the time My email is 46.046512% spam = morning dayevening == 17:42 This is definitely unnecessary to send with all your messages to the list. Why have macros for this? You may wish to send a regular admin type message to yourself or someone else using the scheduler. You may wish to create a quick template so that you can easily send this information without having to manually type it when needed. - From this point on, anyone who asks me any questions about the version of The Bat! I am using, the system I am using or any other question that could be answered by a macro in the sig area should be punished. If you're being reasonable, surely there must be a limit to this. You do know that all your address book information can be outputted using macros. As an example, I constructed a special signature for software support. It includes a lot more detailed information about myself and the system I use. However, I wouldn't use that signature for a discussion list as this. That level of detail is simply unnecessary to be sending with each and every message. If the time comes to include the details, apply a quick template that contains the relevant macros to easily output such information on those odd occasions. -- Allie Martin [List Moderator and fellow end-user] The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/2 on WinXP Pro (SP1) . Hard work must have killed someone! pgpWQd0EBBE9H.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Playing with BayesIT macros
Some time around 08/03/2004 01:22:50, I think I heard Michael L. Wilson say: ==Spam Stats, last 24 hours (BayesIt! 0.5.9) Total Spam Emails: 45 Total Clean Emails: 120 BayesIT guessed right 99.96% of the time My email is 2.67% spam = Your email is only 2.67% spam?? You lucky daaag!!! :) dZ. -- Powered by The Bat! v.2.12.00, Hindered by MS Windows 2000 v.5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Playing with BayesIT macros
ON Tuesday, August 3, 2004, 7:22:50 AM, you wrote: MLW I have been playing with BayesIT macros to create statistics on the MLW bottom of this email. If there is interest, I will post what I did. MLW If anyone else is using the macros for stats, please show results MLW here. Hi Michael, I ma not using them right now but I am stll interested in your implementation, so please post it here. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= In case of a thunderstorm, stand in the middle of the fairway and hold up a one iron. Not even God can hit a one iron. Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Playing with BayesIT macros
On Tuesday, August 3, 2004, 6:22:50 AM, Michael L. Wilson wrote: I have been playing with BayesIT macros to create statistics on the bottom of this email. Don't forget that Netiquette dictates that the length of the sig should be 4-5 lines maximum. The length of your sig, particularly once you have added BayesIT data, is well in excess of this. Users of TB! and the RTV may not notice this, but not everyone uses TB!, and these unfortunate people will see many lines of sig, which they will have to manually chop in replies. Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Playing with BayesIT macros
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Zonnet, On Tuesday, August 03, 2004 , at 11:32:07[GMT +0200](which was 2:32 AM where I live) you wrote (at least in part): Z ON Tuesday, August 3, 2004, 7:22:50 AM, you wrote: MLW I have been playing with BayesIT macros to create statistics on the MLW bottom of this email. If there is interest, I will post what I did. MLW If anyone else is using the macros for stats, please show results MLW here. Z Hi Michael, Z I ma not using them right now but I am stll interested in your Z implementation, so please post it here. QT SpamCount= ==Spam Stats, last 24 hours (%BAYESITVERSION) Total Spam Emails: %STATSPAMLETTERS(24) Total Clean Emails: %STATNONSPAMLETTERS(24) BayesIT guessed right %calculate=100-(%STATSPAMERLETTERS(24)/%STATSPAMLETTERS(24))%% of the time My email is %calculate=%STATNONSPAMLETTERS(24)/%STATSPAMLETTERS(24)%% spam = - --end--- - -- Michael L. Wilson, MBA :usflag: Ecclesiastic Philosopher Teacher Critic :einsteinyoyo: If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. - - Exploiting The Bat! version 2.13 Lucky Beta/1 Hamstrung with Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Scanning with Nod32 anti-virus Hiding behind Outpost Pro Firewall ==Spam Stats, last 24 hours (BayesIt! 0.5.9) Total Spam Emails: 74 Total Clean Emails: 176 BayesIT guessed right 99.972973% of the time My email is 2.378378% spam = -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: Big Brother is REALLY watching you iQA/AwUBQQ+zUm2u7N+Qh+ieEQI9eACfZ4UfKDE2fc1vPqR2vM7l+a2vxLYAoPUF gaKg9X0X7omZYoqrKXip9y7+ =zyxp -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Playing with BayesIT macros
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Julian, On Tuesday, August 03, 2004 , at 12:04:55[GMT +0100](which was 4:04 AM where I live) you wrote (at least in part): JBL On Tuesday, August 3, 2004, 6:22:50 AM, Michael L. Wilson wrote: I have been playing with BayesIT macros to create statistics on the bottom of this email. JBL Don't forget that Netiquette dictates that the length of the sig JBL should be 4-5 lines maximum. The length of your sig, particularly once JBL you have added BayesIT data, is well in excess of this. JBL Users of TB! and the RTV may not notice this, but not everyone uses JBL TB!, and these unfortunate people will see many lines of sig, which JBL they will have to manually chop in replies. JBL Julian Sorry you misunderstood. The Bat! allows me to have different templates to have different sigs for each send address. I have created a rather long sig for the bat discussion groups to display what my system is. The spam counter is also, only in the template for the Bat lists. You should look into The Bat! templates, they really are quite good and help in the world Netiquette. It is also my belief, that everyone on this list either uses The Bat! or knows of it. - -- Michael L. Wilson, MBA :usflag: Ecclesiastic Philosopher Teacher Critic :einsteinyoyo: If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. - - Exploiting The Bat! version 2.13 Lucky Beta/1 Hamstrung with Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Scanning with Nod32 anti-virus Hiding behind Outpost Pro Firewall ==Spam Stats, last 24 hours (BayesIt! 0.5.9) Total Spam Emails: 74 Total Clean Emails: 176 BayesIT guessed right 99.972973% of the time My email is 2.378378% spam = -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: Big Brother is REALLY watching you iQA/AwUBQQ+z722u7N+Qh+ieEQLHhQCcCm0Yo+z3OzGgHkT7R33n8iiB95MAn0Re RY9JVt0LBxpn39sQ5EKe7sJ/ =UnW5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Michael- Do post what you came up with here - that's *very* interesting. However, I should point out that since your cutline is incorrect and your message is roughly 80% signature lines I smell a trout hovering quite close nearby. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Playing with BayesIT macros
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Mark, On Tuesday, August 03, 2004 , at 10:24:54[GMT -0700](which was 10:24 AM where I live) you wrote (at least in part): MW Michael- MW Do post what you came up with here - that's *very* interesting. MW However, I should point out that since your cutline is incorrect and MW your message is roughly 80% signature lines I smell a trout hovering MW quite close nearby. My cutline is exactly like they want it. - -- Michael L. Wilson, MBA :usflag: Ecclesiastic Philosopher Teacher Critic :einsteinyoyo: If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. - - The Bat! 2.13 Lucky Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) ==Spam Stats, last 24 hours (BayesIt! 0.5.9) Total Spam Emails: 86 Total Clean Emails: 202 BayesIT guessed right 99.976744% of the time My email is 26.7361% spam = -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: Big Brother is REALLY watching you iQA/AwUBQQ/3a22u7N+Qh+ieEQL43ACfeTYpFQ412V/7VCT23rriYOo9vwkAn36e wkk5peAtB2YphIMH9YNqmoBz =drMA -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Playing with BayesIT macros
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Zonnet, On Tuesday, August 03, 2004 , at 11:32:07[GMT +0200](which was 2:32 AM where I live) you wrote (at least in part): Z I ma not using them right now but I am stll interested in your Z implementation, so please post it here. After some help with the macros, this is what I have now ==Spam Stats, last 24 hours (%BAYESITVERSION) Total Spam Emails: %STATSPAMLETTERS(24) Total Clean Emails: %STATNONSPAMLETTERS(24) BayesIT guessed right %calculate=100-(%STATSPAMERLETTERS(24)/%STATSPAMLETTERS(24))%% of the time My email is %_Sum=%Calc(%STATSPAMLETTERS(24)+%STATNONSPAMLETTERS(24))%- %_Quot=%Calc(77/%_sum)%- %_Percent=%calc(100*%_quot)%- %_Percent%% spam = - -- Michael L. Wilson, MBA :usflag: Ecclesiastic Philosopher Teacher Critic :einsteinyoyo: If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. - - The Bat! 2.13 Lucky Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) ==Spam Stats, last 24 hours (BayesIt! 0.5.9) Total Spam Emails: 86 Total Clean Emails: 202 BayesIT guessed right 99.976744% of the time My email is 26.7361% spam = -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: Big Brother is REALLY watching you iQA/AwUBQQ/3sW2u7N+Qh+ieEQJ8LgCgkx+Ka35xjyrqfEXX0q6s4jw4K4oAoJ9p Hvskj+t/ldRDQzBSAre2A+9r =bPaF -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Playing with BayesIT macros
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Mark, On Tuesday, August 03, 2004 , at 10:24:54[GMT -0700](which was 10:24 AM where I live) you wrote (at least in part): MW Michael- MW Do post what you came up with here - that's *very* interesting. MW However, I should point out that since your cutline is incorrect and MW your message is roughly 80% signature lines I smell a trout hovering MW quite close nearby. I am using %CutHere from MyMacros. I was told it was perfect. - -- Michael L. Wilson, MBA :usflag: Ecclesiastic Philosopher Teacher Critic :einsteinyoyo: If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. - - The Bat! 2.13 Lucky Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) ==Spam Stats, last 24 hours (BayesIt! 0.5.9) Total Spam Emails: 86 Total Clean Emails: 202 BayesIT guessed right 99.976744% of the time My email is 26.7361% spam = -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: Big Brother is REALLY watching you iQA/AwUBQQ/4MW2u7N+Qh+ieEQJBLQCg2aPg57zV0WgtAjTSkIrMe4LZwQAAn22x /Wx8ppzM7uCWB3OkhXDMcIDI =WJFs -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hi Michael, My cutline is exactly like they want it. I see a dash space dash dash it should be dash dash space :) Oh wait, here's one coming now: -- Chris Using The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/1 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Michael! On Tuesday, August 03, 2004, 3:40 PM, you wrote: MLW I am using %CutHere from MyMacros. I was told it was perfect. It's the best that can be done, since you are signing with PGP/Mime. This changes the configuration as it's sent to: dash space dash dash. Therefore, everything below it is quoted upon Reply, when Macros for quoting are in a person's template. This was such a problem for some of us that Marck wrote an expression that one can include in one's Address Book Reply template which will recognize dash space dash dash in addition to dash-dash-space as a cut-mark, and exclude all text below it from the quotes in Reply. I hope I'm saying this clearly. I'd post the expression here, but my template is long and I don't know what part of it does that. I just know that it makes your cut-mark work for me. For someone without that, your cut-mark as changed by PGP/Mime won't work. -- Best regards, Mary :Mary: The Bat! 2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Michael, Tuesday, August 3, 2004, 1:36:52 PM, you wrote: My cutline is exactly like they want it. Yes and it works fine here! -- Thanks, Terry Using the Bat! 2.12.00 under Windows XP Service Pack 1 2600 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Playing with BayesIT macros
Hi Mary, This changes the configuration as it's sent to: dash space dash dash. Therefore, everything below it is quoted upon Reply, when Macros for quoting are in a person's template. That answered my next question, which was why the dash space dash dash delimiter works. Thanks! -- Chris Using The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/1 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Mary, Tuesday, August 3, 2004, 1:52:49 PM, you wrote: Therefore, everything below it is quoted upon Reply, when Macros for quoting are in a person's template. What am I missing? I use macros for quoting but nothing below Michael's cutline is quoted. ~shrug~ -- Thanks, Terry Using the Bat! 2.12.00 under Windows XP Service Pack 1 2600 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Terry! On Tuesday, August 03, 2004, 4:05 PM, you wrote: MB Therefore, everything below it is quoted upon Reply, when Macros for MB quoting are in a person's template. TGM What am I missing? I use macros for quoting but nothing below TGM Michael's cutline is quoted. ~shrug~ My templates are very old, from when I first got The Bat! I had a simple % quote line. A number of us did, I think. So when people began signing with PGP/Mime, that would change the basic delimiter of dash dash space (Enter, for new line) to what you see as Michael's cut-line: dash space dash dash. And it didn't work, since the set-up was for dash-dash space.. So Marck gave me an expression to put in my Reply template. It recognizes the PGP/Mime configured cut-line, which is what Michael has. I imagine that this expression, or something like it, is in the Macro that you are using. -- Best regards, Mary :Mary: The Bat! 2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Playing with BayesIT macros
Hello Terry, On 3 Aug 2004 at 14:05:45 -0700 GMT [23:05 CEST] you wrote: Therefore, everything below it is quoted upon Reply, when Macros for quoting are in a person's template. TGM What am I missing? I use macros for quoting but nothing below TGM Michael's cutline is quoted. ~shrug~ Since some versions tb! supports pgp changed sig delimiters. Therefore it works. -- Cheers, Andre Who the hell wants to hear actors talk? ~ Harry Warner of Warner Brothers, 1925 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Playing with BayesIT macros
Hi Mary and list, On Tuesday, August 3, 2004 at 15:52:49 GMT -0500 (which was 22:52 where I live) Mary Bull wrote (at least in parts) and made these valuable points on the subject of Playing with BayesIT macros: MLW I am using %CutHere from MyMacros. I was told it was perfect. It is as correct as a handmade can be too. There is also a TB! macro %ISSGINATURE (in a QT)which should care about a cut delimiter too (I didn't try that one myself). It's the best that can be done, since you are signing with PGP/Mime. To be exact: not PGP/MIME but PGP inline. With PGP/MIME there is no need for changing lines beginning with dash as the seperation is done by different (MIME coded) parts. This changes the configuration as it's sent to: dash space dash dash. Therefore, everything below it is quoted upon Reply, That is not true anymore, I was recently told. Since a couple of versions ago TB! recognizes the dashspacedashdashspace mofification of PGP as a valid signature itself. This was such a problem for some of us that Marck wrote an expression that one can include in one's Address Book Reply template which will recognize dash space dash dash in addition to dash-dash-space as a cut-mark, and exclude all text below it from the quotes in Reply. Since then this macro isn't needed anymore for the sig delimiter. One positive side effect is suppressing the _beginning PGP-line too. I just know that it makes your cut-mark work for me. For someone without that, your cut-mark as changed by PGP/Mime won't work. see above :-) -- Regards Michael powered by The BAT! 2.13 Lucky Beta/1, Useless Macro Collection 1.7.751/rc1, and MyMacros 1.11 with usual problems of Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Playing with BayesIT macros
Hello Andre! On Tuesday, August 03, 2004, 4:16 PM, you wrote: MB Therefore, everything below it is quoted upon Reply, when Macros for MB quoting are in a person's template. TGM What am I missing? I use macros for quoting but nothing below TGM Michael's cutline is quoted. ~shrug~ AW Since some versions tb! supports pgp changed sig delimiters. Therefore AW it works. If TB! is doing this automatically, why does it work for the TB! lists, but not on tbot, where, when I made some changes, I inadvertently left that expression out of my tbot Reply template, and now I have to manually scrub tons of Yahoo! stuff, unless I highlight and use Shift/Reply arrow button? -- Best regards, Mary :Mary: The Bat! 2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Playing with BayesIT macros
Hi Mary and list, On Tuesday, August 3, 2004 at 16:23:51 GMT -0500 (which was 23:23 where I live) Mary Bull wrote (at least in parts) and made these valuable points on the subject of Playing with BayesIT macros: AW Since some versions tb! supports pgp changed sig delimiters. Therefore AW it works. If TB! is doing this automatically, why does it work for the TB! lists, but not on tbot, where, when I made some changes, I inadvertently left that expression out of my tbot Reply template, Hmm - may be we should have a look at your templates (you could send them per PM if you so wish). I do not use any special cleaning macros and as all templates for the tb-lists (including tbot) are AB-Group templates they are exactly the same for each TB-List - and the cut off works automagically. -- Regards Michael powered by The BAT! 2.13 Lucky Beta/1, Useless Macro Collection 1.7.751/rc1, and MyMacros 1.11 with usual problems of Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Playing with BayesIT macros
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Julian, On Tuesday, August 03, 2004 , at 12:04:55[GMT +0100](which was 4:04 AM where I live) you wrote (at least in part): JBL Don't forget that Netiquette dictates that the length of the sig JBL should be 4-5 lines maximum. The length of your sig, particularly once JBL you have added BayesIT data, is well in excess of this. I take this view. If people do not want long signatures, then stop writing so many F*ing macros. I like to play with the macros and test them, and now you complain about my sig being too long. oh well. - -- Michael L. Wilson, MBA :usflag: Ecclesiastic Philosopher Teacher Critic :einsteinyoyo: If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. - - The Bat! 2.13 Lucky Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) ==Spam Stats, last 24 hours (BayesIt! 0.5.9) Total Spam Emails: 95 Total Clean Emails: 139 BayesIT guessed right 99.936842% of the time My email is 32.906% spam = -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: Big Brother is REALLY watching you iQA/AwUBQRBF622u7N+Qh+ieEQLzJwCg+iIHutcXR69LqQ3GkiVPHaZBUs4AoNcm pgyeicBz77iHUlwva6IHMgWM =hT1a -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Playing with BayesIT macros
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greetings All, I have been playing with BayesIT macros to create statistics on the bottom of this email. If there is interest, I will post what I did. If anyone else is using the macros for stats, please show results here. - -- Michael L. Wilson, MBA :usflag: Ecclesiastic Philosopher Teacher Critic :einsteinyoyo: Big Brother is watching - George Orwell (1984) - Exploiting The Bat! version 2.13 Lucky Beta/1 Hamstrung with Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Scanning with Nod32 anti-virus Hiding behind Outpost Pro Firewall Ponder this: Do not waste today regretting yesterday. ==Spam Stats, last 24 hours (BayesIt! 0.5.9) Total Spam Emails: 45 Total Clean Emails: 120 BayesIT guessed right 99.96% of the time My email is 2.67% spam = -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: Big Brother is REALLY watching you iQA/AwUBQQ8hLW2u7N+Qh+ieEQK84gCgvIgKxUnxQJOoq4zb1LUp0Q3GbjUAn3Ys kkLncDdH0gDYUvVcgxHwLiIP =u/j2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
