Re: Problem fetching mail.

2001-04-01 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Lars,

On 01 April 2001 at  10:05:14 +0200 (which was 09:05 where I  live)
Lars Geiger wrote to A Curtis Martin on TBUDL and made these points:

 ZoneAlarm problems occur with Win2k Pro and not Win98/ME. In
 fact it works fine with Win2k once the service pack hasn't been
 applied.

LG Well, I *am* using Win2k Pro, SP1, Zone Alarm and I don't have
LG any problems. IIRC there was a version which came out after the
LG problems with SP1, so I guess they fixed it.

Please refer to the message I am referencing in the archive. The
problem Frank was describing is *exactly* the same. The response I
have given is the solution given at that time.

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Re[2]: Problem fetching mail.

2001-04-01 Thread Frank T. Rambøl

MDP This sounds exactly like a very specific problem related to the use of
MDP ZoneAlarm. You don't mention it in the things you say you are running.
MDP Are you? I think so. Here's this posting to the list from last summer:

I forgot to include this program. I know I should.
I'll try the solution you gave me and the we'll see.

Regards,
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Re: Problem fetching mail.

2001-04-01 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Marck,
On Sun, 1 Apr 2001, at 10:36:56 +0100 you wrote:

 ZoneAlarm problems occur with Win2k Pro and not Win98/ME.

 Please refer to the message I am referencing in the archive.
 The problem Frank was describing is *exactly* the same. The
 response I have given is the solution given at that time.

Yes, I agree. I just wanted to point out that this is no problem
here. Allie said that the problem occurred when using Win2k, SP1
*and* ZoneAlarm. But everything works fine on my machine. So I
guess ZoneAlarm was fixed and I suggest to Frank to download the
latest version 2.1.44.

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Re: Problem fetching mail.

2001-04-01 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Frank,
On Sun, 1 Apr 2001, at 12:12:09 +0200 you wrote:

 I forgot to include this program. I know I should. I'll try the
 solution you gave me and the we'll see.

Which version of ZoneAlarm are you using? 2.1.25 or 2.1.44? My
software configuration is similar to yours (Win2k, SP1, ZoneAlarm
2.1.44) and I am not experiencing the problem you describe. I
think I remember that the problems concerning SP1 and ZoneAlarm
were fixed with the release of 2.1.44. So perhaps you should
download that newer version.

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Re: Problem fetching mail.

2001-04-01 Thread A Curtis Martin

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On Sun, 1 Apr 2001 12:18:27 +0200, Lars wrote these comments:

LG Yes, I agree. I just wanted to point out that this is no problem here.
LG Allie said that the problem occurred when using Win2k, SP1 *and*
LG ZoneAlarm.

This isn't a query in my mind at all. I used ZoneAlarm without Win2k's
service pack without problems. When I applied service pack 1, ZoneAlarm
broke and I stopped using it. We were later informed of a patch being
available to fix the SP1 issue which I and others installed. It seemed to
work just fine but many, though not all of us, continued to have subtle
network connection problems and problems with TB!. These problems would
start after about a week without a reboot and after establishing many
dial-up connections. A reboot would cure the problems and then the cycle
repeated itself. Do you use a dial-up connection and do you leave your
machine running all the time?

LG But everything works fine on my machine. So I guess ZoneAlarm was
LG fixed and I suggest to Frank to download the latest version 2.1.44.

I haven't used ZoneAlarm for some time. I don't know if they have further
improved on how it functions with Win2k. All I remember is that I had
misery with unpredictable internet connection failures, cured by reboots,
until I uninstalled ZoneAlarm from my system.

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Re[2]: Problem fetching mail.

2001-04-01 Thread Frank T. Rambøl

LG Which version of ZoneAlarm are you using? 2.1.25 or 2.1.44? My
LG software configuration is similar to yours (Win2k, SP1, ZoneAlarm
LG 2.1.44) and I am not experiencing the problem you describe. I
LG think I remember that the problems concerning SP1 and ZoneAlarm
LG were fixed with the release of 2.1.44. So perhaps you should
LG download that newer version.

I'll just say that the problem seems to have been solved now by
putting the mail-servers in the Advanced dialog. Thanks to Marck for
helping me out.

As a final note I will say that I am using ZoneAlarm 2.1.44 so there
isn't any help in upgrading to it.
Will also say that this is the only problem I have had with ZoneAlarm
and I have been running that for probably over a year now.

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Re: Problem fetching mail.

2001-04-01 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi A,
On Sun, 1 Apr 2001, at 06:23:27 -0500 you wrote:

 Do you use a dial-up connection

Yes.

 and do you leave your machine running all the time?

No.

 I haven't used ZoneAlarm for some time. I don't know if they
 have further improved on how it functions with Win2k. All I
 remember is that I had misery with unpredictable internet
 connection failures, cured by reboots, until I uninstalled
 ZoneAlarm from my system.

I didn't know it behaved badly without reboots, usually my system
runs only 12 h a day, so I have never experienced this.

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Problem fetching mail.

2001-03-31 Thread Frank T. Rambøl

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Hello.

  I am a new user of The Bat! so I do not know if this problem has
  been discussed on this list before. If so I hope that you will
  forgive that and maybe point me in to a place where I can find the
  solution.

  The problem is that I have trouble fetching mail. When I start my
PC
  and The Bat! everything seems OK, but after a while I can't fetch
  more mail. The connections just times out with an error-message:
  "FETCH - Could not connect to server." (I think that is it.)
  If I then exit The Bat! and restart it again I can check my mail
  from one of the accounts one time, but no more. Then I get the
  problem again.

  It seems to crop up after I have been surfing the net for a while
or
  reading news.
  I am using Using The Bat! v1.51 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195
  Service Pack 1. I use IE5.5 as a browser and XNews v4.01.30 for
news.

  I hope you can help me with this as if not I have just wasted $35
  paying for software I can't use. That reminds me that the problem
  also seems to have appeared after I registered the program as I did
  not have any of these problems in the trial-period.
  I have formatted my HD and reinstalled Win2K and The Bat! but it
did not
  help. I have also downloaded all the Security fixes, upgrades and
  compatibility stuff that Microsoft provides on their Windowsupdate
  site.

  Hope anybody can help me with this problem as I am stuck.

  Regards,
  Frank T. Rambl

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Re: Problem fetching mail.

2001-03-31 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Frank,

On 01 April 2001 at  03:05:54 +0200 (which was 02:05 where I  live)
Frank T. Rambl wrote to TBUDL and made these points:

FTR The problem is that I have trouble fetching mail. When I start my
FTR PC and The Bat! everything seems OK, but after a while I can't
FTR fetch more mail. The connections just times out with an
FTR error-message: "FETCH - Could not connect to server." (I think
FTR that is it.) If I then exit The Bat! and restart it again I can
FTR check my mail from one of the accounts one time, but no more.
FTR Then I get the problem again.

This sounds exactly like a very specific problem related to the use of
ZoneAlarm. You don't mention it in the things you say you are running.
Are you? I think so. Here's this posting to the list from last summer:

Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 06:16:57 -0500
From: Allie Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: The 'cannot read email from POP3 server more than once' problem again ...

AM ZoneAlarm is the culprit here. I wrote to the ZoneAlarm developers
AM and this was their response:

AM We are looking into resolving the problem with blocking access
AM to mail servers, others have reported it too.

AM A solution for now is to add the mail server to your trusted
AM Local Zone.

AM - Enter the security panel
AM - Click on the advanced button.
AM - Select add
AM - Select host/Site
AM - Enter the mail server name
AM - Click next, confirm the entry
AM - Click OK
AM - Click OK

AM Then you should no longer have a problem accessing the email
AM server.

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Re[2]: Problem fetching mail.

2001-03-31 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello Listers.

On Saturday, March 31, 2001 02:42:49 [ +0100 GMT], Marck D. Pearlstone
wrote the following in regards to 'Problem fetching mail.':

FTR The problem is that I have trouble fetching mail. When I start my
FTR PC and The Bat! everything seems OK, but after a while I can't
FTR fetch more mail. The connections just times out with an
FTR error-message: "FETCH - Could not connect to server." (I think
FTR that is it.) If I then exit The Bat! and restart it again I can
FTR check my mail from one of the accounts one time, but no more.
FTR Then I get the problem again.

Marck This sounds exactly like a very specific problem related to the use of
Marck ZoneAlarm. You don't mention it in the things you say you are running.
Marck Are you?
 
  I run zone alarm w TB! w/o a problem. If set correctly ZA requests
  permission to allow each new program to to access the Internet. I
  just have set TB! as one of those programs that can access the
  Internet. As of this writing ZA is totally transparent to TB!.

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Re: Problem fetching mail.

2001-03-31 Thread A Curtis Martin

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On Sun, 1 Apr 2001 03:05:54 +0200, Frank contributed this to our
collective wisdom:

FTR It seems to crop up after I have been surfing the net for a while or
FTR reading news. I am using Using The Bat! v1.51 on Windows NT 5.0 Build
FTR 2195 Service Pack 1. I use IE5.5 as a browser and XNews v4.01.30 for
FTR news.

FTR I hope you can help me with this as if not I have just wasted $35
FTR paying for software I can't use. That reminds me that the problem
FTR also seems to have appeared after I registered the program as I did
FTR not have any of these problems in the trial-period. I have formatted
FTR my HD and reinstalled Win2K and The Bat! but it did not help.

Are you running a PC firewall per chance? Possibly ZoneAlarm? This
particular firewall is a nightmare for most who use Win2k with service
pack 1 installed. Your symptoms sound identical to the ones I had with
ZoneAlarm installed. The only cure was to uninstall ZoneAlarm.

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Re: Problem fetching mail.

2001-03-31 Thread A Curtis Martin

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On Sat, 31 Mar 2001 21:32:58 -0500, Jan graced us with these comments:

JR I run zone alarm w TB! w/o a problem. If set correctly ZA requests
JR permission to allow each new program to to access the Internet. I just
JR have set TB! as one of those programs that can access the Internet. As
JR of this writing ZA is totally transparent to TB!.

ZoneAlarm problems occur with Win2k Pro and not Win98/ME. In fact it works
fine with Win2k once the service pack hasn't been applied.

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Re: Problem fetching mail.

2001-03-31 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi A,
On Sat, 31 Mar 2001, at 21:57:36 -0500 you wrote:

 ZoneAlarm problems occur with Win2k Pro and not Win98/ME. In
 fact it works fine with Win2k once the service pack hasn't been
 applied.

Well, I *am* using Win2k Pro, SP1, Zone Alarm and I don't have
any problems. IIRC there was a version which came out after the
problems with SP1, so I guess they fixed it.

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