Re: Archiving Mail
Tuesday, July 10, 2007, ETM wrote: > But I still would like to be able to easily access that old mail. If you save as mbg-files you can access them from within Mailbag. -- Urban Politicians and diapers have one thing in common. They should both be changed regularly and for the same reason. Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Archiving Mail
E>> Can you move that archive away from TB! and use E>> Mailbag to open it, say, on an external hard E>> drive? > Yes. Thanks, I will most likely buy Mailbag. I am awaiting delivery of a laptop with Vista, will upgrade to current TB! on the laptop. I am using an older version of TB! on my PC. I am making an effort to be ready for the unknown when I start moving data and moving the old very large (around 2GB) accumulation of mail to the active mail program is not appealing. But I still would like to be able to easily access that old mail. -- Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Archiving Mail
Hello ETM, Monday, July 9, 2007, 11:30:42 PM, you wrote: E> Can you move that archive away from TB! and use E> Mailbag to open it, say, on an external hard E> drive? Yes. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 3.99.8 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Archiving Mail
> I think it is clear I was not using the word > "archiving" as in compression > tools such as PK/Win/7-zip, Winrar e tutti quanti... :-) Can you move that archive away from TB! and use Mailbag to open it, say, on an external hard drive? -- Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Archiving Mail
Hello ETM, Monday, July 9, 2007, 10:51:47 PM, you wrote: E> What does that mean, does it or doesn't it work as E> an archiver? ,--/ from the website: \ | If you're buried alive in e-mail, let Mailbag Assistant come to the rescue | with tools to search, organize, analyze and archive your mountain of messages | - tools that are probably inadequate or unavailable in your mail program. `-8<--- In Mailbag Assistant, you open your TB! files, choose which messages you want to archive, then copy them to a Mailbag (archive) file. I think it is clear I was not using the word "archiving" as in compression tools such as PK/Win/7-zip, Winrar e tutti quanti... :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 3.99.8 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Archiving Mail
> Oh dear! And I thought all the mail I wanted to > preserve resides in Mailbag > archives. Not only the the messages received in > TB! but also in Poco, OE a.o. What does that mean, does it or doesn't it work as an archiver? Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Archiving Mail
Hello Marten, Monday, July 9, 2007, 6:39:45 PM, you wrote: MG> Hmmm I had a look at that as a result of your reply but it doesn't seem to MG> do the archiving - it just looks at the emails. Oh dear! And I thought all the mail I wanted to preserve resides in Mailbag archives. Not only the the messages received in TB! but also in Poco, OE a.o. :-) Seems you did not take a good look, or your definition of archiving differs from mine... -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 3.99.8 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Archiving Mail
>> Monday, July 9, 2007, Kitty wrote: >>> What are my options for archiving outside of TB, but where I could >>> easily look at the emails? >> Mailbag Assistant comes to mind >> http://www.fookes.com/mailbag/index.php > Hmmm I had a look at that as a result of your reply but it doesn't seem to > do the archiving - it just looks at the emails. If I wanted to stoe them > outside TB how would I go about that? OK - I've answered my own question: I have a common filter set up that is manually asctivated (ALT-Z) to save the highlighted email as an EML type file in a directory outside TB. I then delete ht email from TB. The filter is: TB! Message Filter beginFilter UID: [CBEF8150.01C74D4D.60B628FB.7C94FEEE] Name: Save\20as\20EML Filter: {\0D\0A\20`0`0`\0D\0A} ExportMessage Kludges IncrementExist FmtRFC822 filename C:\5CDocuments\20and\20Settings\5CMarten\5CMy\20Documents\5CLTAdmin\5CEmailArchives\5C%ODATE\3D\22-mm-dd\22-%ACCOUNTNAME-%SUBJECT.eml filenamerelative %USERPROFILE%\5CMy\20Documents\5CLTAdmin\5CEmailArchives\5C%ODATE\3D\22-mm-dd\22-%ACCOUNTNAME-%SUBJECT.eml template Archived:\20%DATE\3D\22-mm-dd\22\0D\0AFolder:\20%ACCOUNTNAME-%FOLDERNAME\0D\0ACreated:\20%ODATE\3D\22-mm-dd\22\20(%ODOW)\20%TIME\3D\22hh:nn\22\0D\0AReceived:\20%ORCVDATE\3D\22-mm-dd\22\20(%ORCVDOW)\20%ORCVTIME\3D\22hh:nn\22\0D\0AFrom:\20%OFROMADDR\20(Reply\20To:\20%OREPLYADDR)\0D\0ATo:\20%OTOADDR\0D\0A\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\0D\0AFrom:\20%OFROMNAME\0D\0ATo:\20%OTONAME\0D\0A\0D\0ASubject:\20%OSUBJECT\0D\0A\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\0D\0A%OTEXT\0D\0A\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\0D\0AATTACHMENTS:\0D\0A%OATTACHMENTS\0D\0A\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\0D\0AAll\20Original\20TO\20addressees:\0D\0A%OTOLIST\0D\0A\0D\0AAll\20Original\20CC\20Addressees:\0D\0A%OCCLIST\0D\0A\0D\0AAll\20Original\20BCC\20Addressees:\0D\0A%OBCCLIST\0D\0A\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\3D\0D\0A IsManual IsActive IsHotkey IsHotkeyOnly Ignore endFilter Then I use the aforementioned MessgaeBag to access and play with that directory of old emails. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.99.3 with K9 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Archiving Mail
> Monday, July 9, 2007, Kitty wrote: >> What are my options for archiving outside of TB, but where I could >> easily look at the emails? > Mailbag Assistant comes to mind > http://www.fookes.com/mailbag/index.php Hmmm I had a look at that as a result of your reply but it doesn't seem to do the archiving - it just looks at the emails. If I wanted to stoe them outside TB how would I go about that? -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.99.3 with K9 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Archiving Mail
Hi Kitty, on Mon, 9 Jul 2007 10:33:44 -0500GMT (09.07.2007, 17:33 +0200GMT here), you wrote: K> For years, I've archived mail by placing mail in common folders that I K> simply named as Archive folders. I now have well over 700,000 emails K> archived most of which I never need to look at but I don't want to K> totally get rid of. What are my options for archiving outside of TB, K> but where I could easily look at the emails? An addition to Urban's proposal: you can even have your archive within TB! without the need to load the extra 700,000 mails every time TB! starts: create a new account for your archive and password-protect it. Then the mails will only be loaded when you open that account. -- Cheers Peter Bore, n.: A person who talks when you wish him to listen. Ambrose Bierce Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Archiving Mail
Monday, July 9, 2007, Kitty wrote: > What are my options for archiving outside of TB, but where I could > easily look at the emails? Mailbag Assistant comes to mind http://www.fookes.com/mailbag/index.php -- Urban Every dog isn't a growler, and every growler isn't a dog. Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Archiving mail
Hello Paul, Sunday, May 5, 2002, 5:12:22 PM, you wrote to TBUDL: PS> I've put the filter in the Account's Read messages - is this PS> right? Just make sure that read filter is ticked in the refilter messages dialogue -- Best regards, Ottar Grimstad, Norway http://home.online.no/~ottgrims Using The Bat! 1.60i on Windows 98 version 4,10 Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Archiving mail
Hello Paul, Sunday, May 5, 2002, 1:44:17 PM, you wrote to TBUDL: PS> with no filtering strings, Try to filter for @ i Sender. As every mailaddress contains an @, this will select all mail before applying these other conditions. -- Best regards, Ottar Grimstad, Norway http://home.online.no/~ottgrims Using The Bat! 1.60i on Windows 98 version 4,10 Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Archiving mail
You can archive in at least four ways using TB!. One way is to keep the messages in the active message bases. That's the way a lot of users on this list do it; they have tens of thousands of messages. TB! could be unique in its ability to handle that type f load in a stable way. A variation on that is to move the messages to a separate set of folders, perhaps with a different user name. That way, they would remain in the .TBB format, but not be on your screen or available all the time. There are two other methods which are not tied to TB! One is to export the messages into Unix format. Unix mailboxes are readable by most good programs, and TB! will append messages to the mailboxes so you can keep your archives current. Finally, you can buy Mailbag Assistant from Fookes Software, which can take email from all sorts of mail programs and archive them either in its native format or, with the most recent Mailbag version, in Unix format. Again, the program will append messages to either format. JN Paul Shave wrote on Saturday, May 04, 2002: > In Outlook, you can auto-archive mailbox folders, according to > criteria you set, eg more than 60 days old. The archived data goes to > a separate .pst file, which you can open in Outlook alongside your > regular mail. This is very useful if you need to refer back to an old > message. > Can The Bat do anything similar? If I understand Import/Export and > Backup/Restore correctly, they won't let you get at archived messages > without affecting your current data. Or have I misunderstood? Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com