Re: Default Column Width
Hi Chris, @ 1:31:51 AM on 4/4/2001, 60 Gunner wrote: 6G As for the quotes, if someone signs a message that I'm replying to, 6G instead of chopping up their message, I tend to keep the signature 6G in tact. ... I suppose your reasoning behind doing that is to be able to tell "who said what"? That is what the line below is for: 6G Wednesday, April 04, 2001, 00.40.54, you wrote: ... Nevertheless, and I'm *not* throwing insults here, but that is one good reason one doesn't 'top-post' -- or, write your message above the quoted message, rather than writing below what you're responding to. Untrimmed replies are a byproduct of top posting. As the old saying goes, "Out of sight, out of mind." -- Brian Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Architect, Designer, and Programmer PGP is spoken here: 0xE4D0C7C8 [TB! 1.52 Beta/3, Windows 98 (SE) 4.10 Build A] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Default Column Width
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Chris, On 04 April 2001 at 00:22:08 -0400 (which was 05:22 where I live) 60 Gunner wrote to Brian Clark and made these points: 6G Never bothered me, but I can certainly modify it if it looks better 6G to the general public. :-) It would be better. TB is one of the few MUAs to provide WYSIWYG output. It does no "behind the scenes" re-wrapping. The only reason PGP provides wrapping at all is to make sure that the less able MUAs don't re-wrap a signed message. TB doesn't need this and, in fact, it "spoils" the otherwise pristine messages TB creates. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.52 Beta/3/iKey1000 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 04) Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOsroQznkJKuSnc2gEQI5UwCg32svYT+mgpHuXDxnGcuEjiZZ6oQAoOME MKuJZ3JvOOWR/da7nhOSQA7Y =4OI/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Default Column Width
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi 60, On 03 April 2001 at 10:37:00 -0400 (which was 15:37 where I live) 60 Gunner wrote to TB!UDL and made these points: 6G Thanks for the info Brian, unfortunately these instructions didn't 6G work for me. I created two folders, one using with the "Use 6G Default..." selected and one without. Both folders' columns were 6G setup the same. I followed the instructions below, maybe we're 6G missing a step or something? So, when you *set up* a folder, what properties do you think should be used for that new folder? The defaults, perhaps? This will happen for all new folders, whether you say "Use default..." or not. The only time you will see a *difference* is when you *change* the setting for one of the folders which has the "Use default..." switch set. At this point, all other "Use default..." folders are also changed. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.52 Beta/3/iKey1000 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 04) Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOsnmoznkJKuSnc2gEQKhfACfWyNCp0Kf7cjZarE49RvFHlzp+2gAoPSL ju9fpjSiqZiYMtXI/xeLm6sZ =MBee -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Default Column Width
On April 3, 2001, at 7:37:00 AM, 60 Gunner wrote: Thanks for the info Brian, unfortunately these instructions didn't work for me. I created two folders, one using with the "Use Default..." selected and one without. Both folders' columns were setup the same. I followed the instructions below, maybe we're missing a step or something? Hmmm... perhaps I'm misunderstanding you, but when I set up a "Test Folder" and in that process *not* check "Use default column settings"... it doesn't. I can adjust the column settings to any configuration I want specific to that one Folder only. Nick _ -=N.J. Andriash | Vancouver, B.C. Canada=- [ TB! v1.52 Beta 3 | Win 98 SE 4.10 A ] [ GnuPG v1.0.4-1 (MingW32) | Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE ] __ -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Default Column Width
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Chris, On 03 April 2001 at 12:52:34 -0400 (which was 17:52 where I live) 60 Gunner wrote to Marck D. Pearlstone and made these points: 6G I guess I'll be submitting a request to the wish list... Perhaps I wasn't clear. I don't think that there's anything to wish for. It all works as advertised. New folders are created with the current defaults. All folders which are set to follow the "Use default.." settings will change en-masse when just one of them is changed. What is missing in this scenario? How should new folders be created, other than with the current default settings? - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.52 Beta/3/iKey1000 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 04) Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOsolVjnkJKuSnc2gEQJpowCfb2g0IeMtzKO8FmSayoAQGmlPeAoAoLJ8 dVh+VoFLOV3tWcwUAvSyia0r =kjYq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Default Column Width
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 3 Apr 2001 20:28:23 -0400, 60 contributed this to our collective wisdom: 6G Yeah, I think I didn't explain what I am trying to do. I'm running a 6G screen size of 1280x1024 and I usually have all of my apps maximized. 6G When I view the folders, in the message pane, the columns are "x" 6G amount of pixels wide. the "x" value is the value I wish to change by 6G default. My "default" column selection and width is from the standard 6G TB! installation. What I wish to do is not display the "size" column 6G and change the default "x" amount for the remaining columns. For 6G instance, the default "From" column is 100 pixels wide. I wish to 6G make this column 180 pixelswide as well as increase the size of the 6G remaining columns. I went to the trouble of changing all of my 6G existing columns since I couldn't readily find a menu item to change. 6G I don't want to change a folder each time I add it, I want to change 6G the defaults. - From what you're saying here it would seem that you need to either right click on any of the message list column headers to invoke the columns configuration panel or go to View - 'Message List Columns' menu item. - -- Allie, -= A. Curtis Martin =- List Moderator (and fellow end-user) Using The Bat! v1.52 Beta/3 | Win2k (SP1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build/04.. Comment: PGP Key ID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOspyNlfJ62ArBxfiEQLxywCg72VjPyuRHYKAXA0EWqTrxG31F50AoJp0 J8t2daa3rg2opVUbUtZTVRwe =mXid -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Default Column Width
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Chris, On 04 April 2001 at 20:34:35 -0400 (which was 01:34 where I live) 60 Gunner wrote to Marck D. Pearlstone and made these points: 6G Maybe I don't understand you correctly. If I can change the default 6G folder and tell all of the other folders to follow the default, 6G that's going to work for me. Now, which folder is the default 6G folder? All of them! (... that have been told to follow the default) :-). First set the switches then start making changes to any one of these "default" folders and the others will follow suit. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.52 Beta/3/iKey1000 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 04) Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOspyXDnkJKuSnc2gEQKA1QCfUXHct8Rmmw7ZqIzwfDllS0UjauAAoKkp hnGHHvPamu7pn21M3qSYtr6V =uNTt -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Default Column Width
Hi Chris, @ 8:28:23 PM on 4/3/2001, 60 Gunner wrote: NA Hmmm... perhaps I'm misunderstanding you, but when I set up a 6G "Test NA Folder" and in that process *not* check "Use default column 6G settings"... NA it doesn't. I can adjust the column settings to any configuration 6G I want NA specific to that one Folder only. Go into the Email tab in PGP Options and uncheck "Word wrap clear-signed messages at column: [ ]" That's the reason you're getting funky wrapping in your PGP signed messages. -- Brian Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Architect, Designer, and Programmer PGP is spoken here: 0xE4D0C7C8 [TB! 1.52 Beta/3, Windows 98 (SE) 4.10 Build A] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Default Column Width
Hi Chris, On Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:23:55 -0400GMT (04/04/2001, 12:23 +0800GMT), 60 Gunner wrote: 6G That's how I modified each folder, individually. What I want to do 6G is modify the one folder that all of the other folders will copy. You modify one (any which one) of the folders that has "Use default column settings" checked, and all of the other folders that have this tickbox checked will follow. It's right there; exactly what you have been asking for. :-) Also, kindly do not full-quote when replying; take a look at what everybody else here does. Deleting the stuff that is not necessary and writing in between the lines, and so on. It makes reading the list more interesting. Thanks. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.51 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Default Column Width
On April 3, 2001, at 9:36:15 PM, 60 Gunner wrote: OK, I'm really not seeing your point. I think your definition of a "default" and my definition of a default are two different definitions. :-) What is the reference for the defaults? How can more than one default exist for an individual variable? Which folder do I use as my reference? Chris, I agree in point there is confusion as to what is the "default folder". What you can do is use the Inbox as your default folder. Click on the Inbox in the Folder List, right click and look at the Properties. Make sure the "Use the default column settings" box is checked. Then on the right side of the screen in the Message List, right click on any one of the column headings and adjust the column settings as per your personal preferences. The Inbox will now become the default Folder. From now on any new Folder you create, or any existing Folder, that has that option checked in it's properties, will have it's column settings identical to how you set up the Inbox. Be aware however, that all Folders with that option checked... will act as the "default Folder" *if* you make any changes to the column settings in any of those Folders with that option checked. Think of a default Folder as *any* Folder that has that option checked. Nick _ -=N.J. Andriash | Vancouver, B.C. Canada=- [ TB! v1.52 Beta 1 | Win 98 SE 4.10 A ] [ GnuPG v1.0.4-1 (MingW32) | Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE ] __ -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Default Column Width
Hi Nick, @ 1:23:19 AM on 4/4/2001, Nick Andriash wrote: ... NA What you can do is use the Inbox as your default folder. Click on NA the Inbox in the Folder List, right click and look at the NA Properties. Make sure the "Use the default column settings" box is NA checked. Then on the right side of the screen in the Message List, NA right click on any one of the column headings and adjust the NA column settings as per your personal preferences. The Inbox will NA now become the default Folder. Just so Chris knows he can do this: Click on the actual account name in the folder list. Then go to View - Message List Columns. I've always taken that as the default, although your suggestion, Nick, works just the same. -- Brian Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Architect, Designer, and Programmer PGP is spoken here: 0xE4D0C7C8 [TB! 1.52 Beta/3, Windows 98 (SE) 4.10 Build A] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Default Column Width
Hi Chris, On Wed, 4 Apr 2001 01:31:51 -0400GMT (04/04/2001, 13:31 +0800GMT), 60 Gunner wrote: 6G Now, I think I might understand what I was being told, I think. :-) Glad to hear your question is answered. :-) 6G But, if this list would prefer to keep a message short versus 6G keeping a signature, then I'll be glad to chop away. Yes, this is a chopping list. ;-) 6G -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- [...] 6G --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- LOL! -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.51 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Default Column Width
Hi 60 Gunner, @ 3:42:57 PM on 4/1/01, 60 Gunner wrote: Is there a way to change the default column width? I found it kind of a pain to modify the displayed column widths for each folder I create. ... Click once on your account name in the account/folder pane. Right click once on the bar at the top of the columns in your message list window. Adjust them there. Then whenever you create a new folder (or when you right click on the folder and go to properties), put a check mark beside "Use the account default column settings." -- Brian Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Architect, Designer, and Programmer PGP is spoken here: 0xE4D0C7C8 [TB! 1.52 Beta/1, Windows 98 (SE) 4.10 Build A] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org