Re: Different fonts for different use
On 19-04-2001 at 13:53, A Curtis Martin kindly wrote: On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 06:01:38 +0200, Sir wrote these words of wisdom: SJ Where can I find Lucida Console and Lucida Sans Typ? As far as I know these fonts are free but I don't know where to find them so I uploaded them for you. You can get them here: http://www.ibackup.com/L/QMLF?U=alliemC=FTJRGLRI9210689 When I try to follow the "dowload this file to your computer" link, I get an error message: "This link expired or no longer exists." - K - -- She's selfish and cruel as only the weak can be - because cruelty is all she has to keep her safe. - Kathryn Harrison: The Kiss -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Different fonts for different use
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:00:38 +0200, Karin thoughtfully wrote the following: http://www.ibackup.com/L/QMLF?U=alliemC=FTJRGLRI9210689 KS When I try to follow the "dowload this file to your KS computer" link, I get an error message: KS "This link expired or no longer exists." Try this one: http://www.ibackup.com/L/QMLF?U=alliemC=ALNCQAFO0673121 I just created it. - -- Allie, -= A. Curtis Martin =- List Moderator (and fellow end-user) The Bat! v1.52 Beta/10 \\// Win2k (SP1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build/04.. Comment: PGP Key ID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOuHvnlfJ62ArBxfiEQKpXgCfXhLJbLwN5GV4bhiP4w5ZM7in5SsAnjY8 Dj+MhDEsCbyAWKU+Kz+XlP2o =SiEx -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Different fonts for different use
On Saturday, April 21, 2001, at 8:13:43 PM, Karin Spaink thoughtfully wrote: Try this one: http://www.ibackup.com/L/QMLF?U=alliemC=ALNCQAFO0673121 I just created it. KS Yet, I get the same error message: even after a forced KS reload of the page. Weird. I have the two font zipped file from Allie's link. Norton 2001 was updated just yesterday on this machine and I'd be happy to attach and send you the file. - - Best regards, ./michaelmailto:@dtsnia.net -- The Bat 1.51 / W2K SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Different fonts for different use
On 22-04-2001 at 02:25, azrael kindly wrote: On Saturday, April 21, 2001, at 8:13:43 PM, Karin Spaink thoughtfully wrote: Try this one: http://www.ibackup.com/L/QMLF?U=alliemC=ALNCQAFO0673121 I just created it. KS Yet, I get the same error message: even after a forced KS reload of the page. Weird. I have the two font zipped file from Allie's link. Norton 2001 was updated just yesterday on this machine and I'd be happy to attach and send you the file. That's very kind, but meanwhile Allie sent me the file himself. As it turns out, the download link would terminate itself after five people had actually downloaded the file. (That gives a whole new meaning to the term killfile ;-)) - K - -- Our society desperately needs monsters to reclaim its own moral virginity. - Sylvère Lotringer -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Different fonts for different use
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 05:01:38 +0200, Sir wrote these words of wisdom: ACM You can override this by right clicking on the status bar, in ACM the editor, the area displaying the charset and changing the ACM charset manually. SJ I know that, but it is a little dificult to jump every time to the SJ editor preference, [if that is what you meant] when I don't like SJ what I see. You don't have to go into the editor preferences for that. The charset may be changed directly via the editor window. If you look at the bottom of the message editor window, in the status bar area you see the charset that you're using stated. Right click over that area and the list of charsets will appear for you to choose from. If there's a pattern to which mail you tend to have the change of font occuring, you could use the macro %CHARSET=Charset ID - set the current message character set to the character set that corresponds to the Charset ID. All possible character sets with their IDs are defined in the Options | XLAT Tables dialogue. in your reply templates. - -- Allie, -= A. Curtis Martin =- List Moderator (and fellow end-user) The Bat! v1.52 Beta/7 \\// Win2k (SP1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build/04.. Comment: PGP Key ID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOt7LrVfJ62ArBxfiEQLyLQCdHD+V99WlpU6EhqCcOLSrXGfDyNkAn2lr wZGDPpC29EdqPRuvKpchnDj1 =n7HQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Different fonts for different use
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 06:01:38 +0200, Sir wrote these words of wisdom: SJ Where can I find Lucida Console and Lucida Sans Typ? I have Andale SJ Mono, and I find it even uglier then Terminal!:) As far as I know these fonts are free but I don't know where to find them so I uploaded them for you. You can get them here: http://www.ibackup.com/L/QMLF?U=alliemC=FTJRGLRI9210689 SJ BTW, how do you implement those two fonts in TB? By changing font in SJ the registry? For Lucida Console, you simply install the font as you would any other in windows, go to TB!'s editor preferences and select it from the font choices. Lucida Sans Typ is different. Though it's a monospaced font, Windows will not list it as such and it will not show up in TB!'s font list. You have to select it via the registry. Before doing so, install the font in Windows and shut down TB!. Go to HKCU/Software/RIT/The Bat!/Editor Double click on 'font' and type in the field Lucida Sans Typ Double click on 'font size', select decimal and type in your desired font size. I use size 12. Note that Lucida Sans Typ really gets lovely when anti-aliasing sets in. At my 1600x1200 screen resolution, fonts appear reasonably small even though they're already anti-aliased. If you like using smaller fonts then Lucida Console may be more attractive for you. It looks far better Lucida Sans Typ without anti-aliasing. - -- Allie, -= A. Curtis Martin =- List Moderator (and fellow end-user) The Bat! v1.52 Beta/7 \\// Win2k (SP1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build/04.. Comment: PGP Key ID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOt7RoFfJ62ArBxfiEQLdIQCg8sEpA+ZgGTRAFTgnet+G09oJVN8AoNWs aQeoLl3HZvhT2F+0zt8hdafR =+lJZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Different fonts for different use
Hallo Allie, On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 06:53:04 -0500 GMT (19/04/2001, 19:53 +0800 GMT), A Curtis Martin wrote: ACM Double click on 'font size', select decimal and type in your desired font ACM size. I use size 12. Note that Lucida Sans Typ really gets lovely when ACM anti-aliasing sets in. What is 'anti-aliasing'? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. In a Copenhagen airline ticket office: We take your bags and send them in all directions. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.52 Beta/7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Different fonts for different use
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 02:11:41 +0800, Thomas contributed this to our collective wisdom: ACM Double click on 'font size', select decimal and type in your desired ACM font size. I use size 12. Note that Lucida Sans Typ really gets ACM lovely when anti-aliasing sets in. T What is 'anti-aliasing'? It's that wonderful smoothed out look that fonts get when they're quite large in windows. The option to enable anti-aliasing is found in the desktop properties/effects/smooth edges of screen fonts. To see what I mean, disable the option and then display say Times New Roman at size 20. Re-enable the option and see how much better the font looks. :=) - -- Allie, -= A. Curtis Martin =- List Moderator (and fellow end-user) The Bat! v1.52 Beta/7 \\// Win2k (SP1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build/04.. Comment: PGP Key ID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOt+hu1fJ62ArBxfiEQKemwCgz50S2ln6SkC1CaeQn/EhV5V9eOYAnRDi 6qGyGTTjsDLwvy7et/45O6/6 =TKg8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Different fonts for different use
On 4/19/2001 1:27:41 PM, on the subject "Different fonts for different use" A Curtis Martin said: SJ I know that, but it is a little dificult to jump every time to SJ the editor preference, [if that is what you meant] when I don't SJ like what I see. ACM You don't have to go into the editor preferences for that. The ACM charset may be changed directly via the editor window. If you ACM look at the bottom of the message editor window, in the status ACM bar area you see the charset that you're using stated. Right ACM click over that area and the list of charsets will appear for ACM you to choose from. Yes, I realized that, about 5 seconds after I sent the meassage!:) Well, that kind of mistakes happen to me after 2,5 years of using TB!!! Dejan -- -- Message written at 6:28 AM Email Client The Bat 1.51 -- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Different fonts for different use
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 18 Apr 2001 21:33:04 +0200, Sir wrote these comments: SJ I have a wish, that is probably impossible;) Wouldn't it be good if SJ we could chose one type of font for reading the posts, and another SJ for writing messages?! SJ I'm asking this because I have in TB some fonts that look great SJ while I'm reading the post, but when I want to reply the look of the SJ text is all messed up [the font is either bigger or smaller] and SJ vice versa, the font looks good only in the Message Editor. Isn't it that the font is different rather than the font being just bigger or smaller. TB! tends to auto-select an appropriate font for message replies, i.e., one that will support all characters generated in the reply quotation etc. and it will also use a font that supports the charset used by the sender. Your preferred font seems to have limited character support so TB! tends to change it to another when needed. You can override this by right clicking on the status bar, in the editor, the area displaying the charset and changing the charset manually. - -- Allie, -= A. Curtis Martin =- List Moderator (and fellow end-user) The Bat! v1.52 Beta/7 \\// Win2k (SP1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build/04.. Comment: PGP Key ID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOt4A5VfJ62ArBxfiEQIqIQCcDV/nPgnnd9oil5UXG/rKsbqXQPkAoKvS Aiyes/atX9Y49NRsDgsroiFw =/SPT -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Different fonts for different use
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:29:19 -0400, Jan thoughtfully wrote the following: Allie TB! tends to auto-select an appropriate font for message replies, Allie i.e., one that will support all characters generated in the reply Allie quotation etc. JR I'm sure you're right but I'm surprised I haven't seen TB! do this in JR all the time I have been using it. It depends on which font you normally use. I use Lucida Sans Typ which has a relatively limited character support. If someone were to write to me using say the Cyrillic (KOI8-R) charset (Russians typically use this font), and I hit reply, the editor appears using Courier New, instead of my font. Three fonts that I realize have excellent character support are Courier New, Andale Mono and Lucida Console. You will not see what I'm talking about if you use one of those fonts normally. Also, if you communicate only with English speakers that use plain ASCII characters or Latin-1 (ISO..) then you very likely will not experience the automatic font change that I'm referring to. - -- Allie, -= A. Curtis Martin =- List Moderator (and fellow end-user) The Bat! v1.52 Beta/7 \\// Win2k (SP1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build/04.. Comment: PGP Key ID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOt48LVfJ62ArBxfiEQJtugCfeZqlvLmTuABw8f2j75UGjPgtWQYAn1gF NPGG+tXwOcT3KKX7jn5H2X9q =XhpB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Different fonts for different use
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 18 Apr 2001 21:43:02 -0400, Jan wrote these words of wisdom: JR Isn't Andale Mono one of those *extra* fonts? I've forgotten where to JR download these fonts from. Maybe you can refer me to that source while JR were are discussing fonts. You can get it here: http://home.bsu.edu/prn/monofont/index.html - -- Allie, -= A. Curtis Martin =- List Moderator (and fellow end-user) The Bat! v1.52 Beta/7 \\// Win2k (SP1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build/04.. Comment: PGP Key ID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOt5E0VfJ62ArBxfiEQIOWQCgi8LiM7Iko+6lGk6G9y5XBjLZUf8AoL0o c5gY5I8OcS5od3L7gjF39GNV =NTC3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Different fonts for different use
On 4/18/2001 11:02:29 PM, on the subject "Different fonts for different use" A Curtis Martin said: ACM Isn't it that the font is different rather than the font being ACM just bigger or smaller. Yes, it looks like that is the case. ACM TB! tends to auto-select an appropriate font for message ACM replies, i.e., one that will support all characters generated ACM in the reply quotation etc. and it will also use a font that ACM supports the charset used by the sender. Your preferred font ACM seems to have limited character support so TB! tends to change ACM it to another when needed. Hmmm, I thought something like that could be the reason for those sudden changes. ACM You can override this by right clicking on the status bar, in ACM the editor, the area displaying the charset and changing the ACM charset manually. I know that, but it is a little dificult to jump every time to the editor preference, [if that is what you meant] when I don't like what I see. Dejan -- -- Message written at 4:32 AM Email Client The Bat 1.51 -- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Different fonts for different use
On 4/19/2001 3:15:25 AM, on the subject "Different fonts for different use" A Curtis Martin said: ACM Three fonts that I realize have excellent character support are ACM Courier New, Andale Mono and Lucida Console. You will not see ACM what I'm talking about if you use one of those fonts normally. Where can I find Lucida Console and Lucida Sans Typ? I have Andale Mono, and I find it even uglier then Terminal!:) BTW, how do you implement those two fonts in TB? By changing font in the registry? But, in that way, the font is not changeable, since it does not appear in the TB's font list. Dejan -- -- Message written at 4:51 AM Email Client The Bat 1.51 -- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Different fonts for different use
On 4/18/2001 10:54:28 PM, on the subject "Different fonts for different use" Jan Rifkinson said: Dejan I'm asking this because I have in TB some fonts that look Dejan great while I'm reading the post, but when I want to reply Dejan the look of the text is all messed up [the font is either Dejan bigger or smaller] and vice versa, the font looks good Dejan only in the Message Editor. JR I think you are reading an HTML msg not the text msg. The Bat! JR only uses mono-spaced fonts. That may account for the difference JR you are experiencing. No, no, I'm definitely _not_ reading a html message, because it's created or read in TB;) Dejan -- -- Message written at 4:22 AM Email Client The Bat 1.51 -- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Different fonts for different use
Hi Sir, On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 06:01:38 +0200GMT (19/04/2001, 12:01 +0800GMT), Sir Jinx! wrote: SJ Where can I find Lucida Console and Lucida Sans Typ? I have Andale SJ Mono, and I find it even uglier then Terminal!:) LOL! I agree with you about Andale Mono, but many people here love it. I use Courier New, and I don't know where you can download the other two mentioned. SJ BTW, how do you implement those two fonts in TB? By changing font in SJ the registry? No. Just put them into the Windows\Fonts directory. Then, in TB's manin window, go to Options / Editor Prefs / Display / Font / Change. All monospaced fonts in your Windows\Fonts directory will be shown there and are for you to choose. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.51 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
