Re: Language settings
Hello Chris, On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 20:14:01 -0500 GMT (23/04/2007, 08:14 +0700 GMT), Chris W. wrote: Main menu: Options / Language CW Is there any rhyme or reason behind the ordering of the entries? Nobody has found that out yet, but you have a good point. Maybe they rhyme in Moldovian language? Seriously though, I believe the languages are ordered according what is assumed to be the most often chosen languages, depending on their customer demographics. If not, the order is just the one in which they were added. -- Cheers, Thomas. You better cut the pizza in four pieces because I am not hungry enough to eat six. (Yogi Berra) http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.99.1 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Language settings
Thomas Fernandez @ 2007-4-22 12:41:43 AM Language settings mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Main menu: Options / Language Is there any rhyme or reason behind the ordering of the entries? -- Chris Using The Bat! v3.98.4 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6000. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. HORROR FILM WISDOM: Do not search the basement, especially when the power has just gone out. pgpB9BEVHBSi2.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Language settings
Hello Tony, On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:39:04 +0200 GMT (22/04/2007, 12:39 +0700 GMT), Tony wrote: T How do I change the language of the interface? T (not the spell checker) Main menu: Options / Language -- Cheers, Thomas. It's paradoxical that the idea of living a long life appeals to everyone, but the idea of getting old doesn't appeal to anyone. -- Andy Rooney http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.99.1 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: %language macro crashes TB
Hallo Cyrille, On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 23:07:51 +0200GMT (14-6-2004, 23:07 +0200, where I live), you wrote: C Indeed. Using Ctrl-Enter instead of the normal reply button does not C cause these crashes. Strange! But it is rather a workaround than a solution. I agree with that, I did mention it to ritlabs and they responded to it, but as it is a rather vague problem, they couldn't pinpoint the source, so they couldn't fix it. And since I'm more a keyboard that a mouse person C This is a real bug. But it is still difficult to say *when* it C happens. Because it does not happen always, but only in combination C with certain QTs and with the %Language macro. That's the reason the bug isn't easy to fix. C But it is strange that we seem to be the only ones who experienced this C difficulty Yep. But then again, I was pointed to the Ctrl-Enter solution by somebody else as I didn't know that key combo back then. (It's so comfortably close to Ctrl-], that I'm using for next message.) For me the weirdest thing was I hadn't changed any of my templates and all of a sudden TB went crazy, though I believe it was after an update. That was the reason that my sister kept using an old version. She's not a computer person, so I have to take of upgrades for her. I updated her TB only when there was a Dutch interface, but that was quite synchronized with the older versions. RO Since then I RO disabled the main toolbar and gotten used to not using it. C What do you mean with disable the toolbar? Do you mean simply not to C *display* it? Yep. But recently on my new computer I haven't disabled it, nor did I use it. ;-) -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: %language macro crashes TB
Hello Roelof, Saturday, June 12, 2004, 8:16:34 PM, you wrote: C But when replying to certain messages, TB crashes. C TB opens the editor window as if it were about to generate the text C for my reply, but before the generated text shows up, TB gets frozen C with a white, empty editor screen; and the only way out is to kill TB. RO In the past that has happened to me too. RO Especially when I used a template that set another language for the RO spell checker than the previous message. RO However, TB only got stuck when I replied with the reply-button. When RO I replied with Ctrl-Enter I had no problems whatsoever. Indeed. Using Ctrl-Enter instead of the normal reply button does not cause these crashes. Strange! But it is rather a workaround than a solution. This is a real bug. But it is still difficult to say *when* it happens. Because it does not happen always, but only in combination with certain QTs and with the %Language macro. But it is strange that we seem to be the only ones who experienced this difficulty RO Since then I RO disabled the main toolbar and gotten used to not using it. What do you mean with disable the toolbar? Do you mean simply not to *display* it? -- Best regards, Cyrille mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [ TB! 2.11.02, Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000, Pentium 233Mhz with 95MB ] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: %language macro crashes TB
Hello TBUDL, 44 hours ago, on Thursday, June 10, 2004, 11:51:42 PM, I wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] about my problems with crashing TB. Until know I did not get any answer. Isn't there anybody who could explain me why TB crashes? Is there nobody who understands what is going on? I am stumped. -- Best regards, Cyrille mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [ TB! 2.10.01, Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000, Pentium 233Mhz with 95MB ] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: %language macro crashes TB
Hallo Cyrille, On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 23:51:42 +0200GMT (10-6-2004, 23:51 +0200, where I live), you wrote: C The funny thing is now that it works fine for new messages and for C many replies. But when replying to certain messages, TB crashes. C TB opens the editor window as if it were about to generate the text C for my reply, but before the generated text shows up, TB gets frozen C with a white, empty editor screen; and the only way out is to kill TB. In the past that has happened to me too. Especially when I used a template that set another language for the spell checker than the previous message. However, TB only got stuck when I replied with the reply-button. When I replied with Ctrl-Enter I had no problems whatsoever. Since then I disabled the main toolbar and gotten used to not using it. Since last week I've got a new system and I haven't disabled the toolbar here, but I haven't used it yet, so I don't know whether the problem still exists over here. -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Language Lists
Dear Thomas, @4-Jun-2004, 23:54 +0700 (04-Jun 17:54 UK time) Thomas Fernandez [TF] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Thomas: BH P.S. I only found this English list. Theres isn't by any BH chance a The Bat mailing list in German? TF There are three: TF And here is the list of language lists: TF http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/lists.html TF (@Marck: The link for the German registration site is outdated.) (thanks - I'll get it sorted). -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgpvXeESdLPmH.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Language field for AB contacts/groups
Hi everybody! The 7.4.2004 at 6:46 PM dAniel wrote: dh I'd like to see a Language field for address book groups, that dh will be the default for all contacts in that group, but can be dh overridden for every contact. This field should be then accessible dh with the %ABnnnLANG macro. I agree with the usefulness of a language field, but I'd rather put it in every contact than in the group properties. What would be the purpose there? dh The workaround would be to use the Notes field for this, but dh that's not very intuitive. What do you think? The workaround for me has been defining a group for every language, thus I was able to define different templates for each language. -- Regards, Marco Lackovic Using The Bat! v2.05 Beta/14 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Language field for AB contacts/groups
Hello bats, on Thu, 8. Apr 2004 at 10:29:41 +0200 Marco Lackovic wrote: dh I'd like to see a Language field for address book groups, that dh will be the default for all contacts in that group, but can be dh overridden for every contact. This field should be then accessible dh with the %ABnnnLANG macro. I agree with the usefulness of a language field, but I'd rather put it in every contact than in the group properties. What would be the purpose there? The purpose would be that you can set a default for a group. But you can just set every contact for itself. On the other hand an entry with the contacts would be enough, because you could mass-edit a whole group. I'll file this on Bugtracker later this day.. -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc lifted with The Bat! 2.05 Beta/14 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Language field for AB contacts/groups
Hello bats, on Thu, 8. Apr 2004 at 15:10:36 +0200 I wrote: I'll file this on Bugtracker later this day.. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0002798 -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc lifted with The Bat! 2.05 Beta/14 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Language field for AB contacts/groups
Hello dAniel, Wednesday, April 7, 2004, 6:46:59 PM, you wrote: dh I'd like to see a Language field for address book groups, that will be dh the default for all contacts in that group, but can be overridden for dh every contact. dh This field should be then accessible with the %ABnnnLANG macro. dh What do you think? Should have been implemented already! :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 2.05 Beta/12 Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Language Spell Checking Options in v2.01
Hello Bob, Friday, October 17, 2003, 12:30:15 AM, you wrote: BM I recently installed v2.01 over the top of my old 1.62r I am v2.00 BM and find that although I still have the options of both American BM English and British English above the line under Spell Checker - BM Language, and still have British English checked as my option; BM when I select Spell Checker / Dictionaries, it shows the language BM as American English for both UserDic.TLX and Correct.TLX with no BM other alternatives available. Same, except I have custom words listed that I added when American English was set. BM Under the line which I understand to mean that there is no BM dictionary available, I have American English (CSAPI), Australian BM English (my system Language default) and British English listed a BM second time. Here I have only British English listed, and none of the custom words. I just checked my system settings and to my surprise American English was selected (fixed now). BM Any suggestions on where I am going wrong, or what other BM settings I might need to change? I think I've looked in all the BM obvious places but I must be overlooking something. Sorry I can't be more help. I just fought this battle with Microsoft Word, and it didn't go down easily. -- Best regards, Scottmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.00.6 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A pgp key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Body=Please%20send%20keys Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Language
Hello Andreas, On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 20:40:41 +0200 GMT (10/09/2003, 01:40 +0700 GMT), Andreas H Johannessen wrote: I have updated to The Bat v2 and by a mistake I lost the version 1.6 where I used the German Spell Checker and was very happy to have this service. I don't spell-check (oh, people can tell sometimes), but there have been some threads about different German spell checkers on the German TB Beginner's list. You might want to ask there (in German language). [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Reason for leaving last job: They insisted that all employees get to work by 8:45 am every morning. I couldn't work under those conditions. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: %Language Macro lock-ups
Hello Roelof, In the past I had the same problem. Whenever I replied with a language that was different from the language I used last, TB would get stuck. The cure was to reply with Ctrl-Enter instead of replying with the reply-button on the main tool bar. I always use the reply button and change between Spanish and English many times a day and never see any problem. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: %Language Macro lock-ups
Good afternoon Roberto Machorro ! On Wed, 4 Jun 2003 10:55:48 -0400 GMT your local time, which was 04.06.2003, 16:55 (GMT+0200) where I live, you (Roberto Machorro) wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: %Language=Spanish Wrong syntax? Only a guess, but my help file says %LANGUAGE=SP ^^ for Spanish ;-)) -- Best regards, Gerd === Tutorial for using regular expressions with TheBat! www.regenechsen.de --- Drugs may lead to nowhere, but at least it's the scenic route. --- now playing: WDR2 :-) Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: %Language Macro lock-ups
Hello Roberto, No luck. I tried re-installing everything but still doesn't work. The weirdest part is that it was working before! :( Can you send a copy of your reply template? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Language-based template
Hi, Miguel A. Urech wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I only use POFile to classify spam and no-spam but I am quite sure it would probably work just fine to classify messages according to language. After all, it builds a word list or dictionary for each bucket. If I have time to try it I will let you know. I actually used POPFile to do language recognition and it was quite good at it. I've never come around to hone my templates accordingly, it was just an experiment. Most of my communication is in English so I have the Bat set to spell check in that language. If I need to switch languages during editing I simply use Alt-H L and pick the language I am writing in. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/7 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Language-based template
Good evening Roelof, It was foretold that on 4-3-2003 @ 19:09:20 GMT+0100 (which was 19:09:20 where I live) Roelof Otten would mumble: snipped a bit RO You could use a variety of conditions. Use different e-mail addresses RO for lists in different languages, then the e-mail address you're using RO (or the account) defines your language. k, i'll try that Roelof -- Best regards, Luc --- Powered by The Bat! version 1.63 Beta/7 with Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 3 and using the best browser: Opera. The hardest thing in the world to understand is the income tax. - Albert Einstein Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Language-based template
Good evening Januk, It was foretold that on 5-3-2003 @ 23:41:24 GMT-0800 (which was 8:41:24 where I live) Januk Aggarwal would mumble: snipped a bit JA Once we have something like that, then you can use a regular JA expression I see -- Best regards, Luc --- Powered by The Bat! version 1.63 Beta/7 with Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 3 and using the best browser: Opera. If income tax is the price you have to pay to keep the government on its feet, alimony is the price we have to pay for sweeping a woman off hers. - Groucho Marx Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Language-based template
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Hi Robert, In a message with mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 4 Mar 2003 08:23:19 (my local time 07:23:19), you typed: RG Can The Bat! change the message template automatically - depending RG on the language of the message (let's say, English or Russian)? The way i have it solved now, is that i have a QT which i fire up by hand when there's an incoming message in Swedish, but i think that it is tricky to get TB! to automagically switch languages, maybe with the help of Popfile that would be possible. What do you popfile users out there say? - -- - -- /Krister mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This mail brought to you by The bat! V1.63 Beta/5, on Windows 98 4 10 build Pgp keys available here: Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt iQA/AwUBPmTQnDg5SXqDEzkLEQOqRgCeOPEz26s/wVRtpYIzhFPSCsGCMPYAnjJR n06W0SIxHG015Po/sIdSaCIP =+ijx -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Language-based template
Good evening Januk, It was foretold that on 4-3-2003 @ 23:07:00 GMT-0800 (which was 8:07:00 where I live) Januk Aggarwal would mumble: snipped a bit JA If you have some way of determining the language reliably, then yes. JA The easiest way is to make your templates as 2 Quick Templates, then JA use a %IF statement in your main template. It would be of the form: JA =[Begin Sample Quasi-template]= JA %IF:'some condition'='Russian identifier I was looking for this a long time but i still have a question: what how should i use the 'some condition' ? I'll try to make myself clear: i'm subscribed to several lists and sometimes it happens that i have to ask something off-list to a member. Now, if i get a reply and want to reply again, my original language kicks in. The same happens when i just compose a message in english: my sig etc shows in my native language. So, how and which condition do i have to make to set the language to english, both when composing as replying. In other words, my english template should kick in (no, not with the 'insert QT' shortcut :-) ) I hope this sounds clear :-) -- Best regards, Luc --- Powered by The Bat! version 1.63 Beta/7 with Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 3 and using the best browser: Opera. It is often said: Always put off tomorrow what you can do today, but if the toilet is out of order, I am not sure if that still holds. Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Language-based template
Hello Krister, is tricky to get TB! to automagically switch languages, maybe with the help of Popfile that would be possible. What do you popfile users out there say? I only use POFile to classify spam and no-spam but I am quite sure it would probably work just fine to classify messages according to language. After all, it builds a word list or dictionary for each bucket. If I have time to try it I will let you know. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Language-based template
Hallo Luc, On Tue, 4 Mar 2003 18:23:23 +0100GMT (4-3-03, 18:23 +0100, where I live), you wrote: L I was looking for this a long time but i still have a question: L what how should i use the 'some condition' ? I'll try to L make myself clear: i'm subscribed to several lists and sometimes L it happens that i have to ask something off-list to a member. You could use a variety of conditions. Use different e-mail addresses for lists in different languages, then the e-mail address you're using (or the account) defines your language. Use the address book to store language info. Doesn't have to be a group, but it can also be the country-field from the address book (%ABToCountry), you don't have to enter the actual country there, but use something to identify the language you're most likely to have in common. Another possibility would be folder templates, though it would be difficult to get the reply back to the folder where the original message was created, unless you'd be using the address book again. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Language-based template
Hello Krister, The way i have it solved now, is that i have a QT which i fire up by hand when there's an incoming message in Swedish, but i think that it is tricky to get TB! to automagically switch languages, maybe with the help of Popfile that would be possible. What do you popfile users out there say? See my mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject Setting language automatically in replies :-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Language-based template
Hello Luc, On Tuesday, March 4, 2003 at 18:23 GMT +0100, clairvoyants were mystified when Luc [L] conjured: JA =[Begin Sample Quasi-template]= JA %IF:'some condition'='Russian identifier L I was looking for this a long time but i still have a question: what Lhow should i use the 'some condition' ? The only way this will work is if there is something common in all Russian messages, but not in any English message. Perhaps it is a character set, or some X-header. Likewise, if there is something common for all English messages that is never in a Russian message, again you'd be ok. Once we have something like that, then you can use a regular expression (or someother macro) and compare it to what I called the Russian Identifier. Of course if you can't find some common difference for the two languages, you'd have to apply the appropriate template manually or use AB templates as Luc suggested. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Language-based template
Hello Robert, On Tuesday, March 4, 2003 at 08:23 GMT +0200, electricians were shocked that Robert Golovniov potentially scribbled: Can The Bat! change the message template automatically - depending on the language of the message (let's say, English or Russian)? If you have some way of determining the language reliably, then yes. The easiest way is to make your templates as 2 Quick Templates, then use a %IF statement in your main template. It would be of the form: =[Begin Sample Quasi-template]= %IF:'some condition'='Russian identifier':'%- %QInclude=Russian Template':'%- %QInclude=English Template' =[ End Sample Quasi-template]= -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Language Switcher
* Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [ Changing fonts to view messages with exotic encodings ] I had to go to Options / Editor Prefs / Display / Font: change, and change the font manually to a Thai font in order to be able to read the message. Of course, after reading it, I had to switch the font back to Courier New. I don't know if this helps, but I would create a manual filter and invoke it by pressing a hotkey... The manual filter executes an external text viewer (notepad?) to view the mail. This could be done by saving the mail to disk (using a template containing %TEXT) and starting the external program with this filename as parameter. HTH. -- Best regards, Carsten Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Language Switcher
Hello Carsten, On Fri, 08 Nov 2002 00:18:52 +0100 GMT (08/11/02, 06:18 +0700 GMT), Carsten Thönges wrote: The manual filter executes an external text viewer (notepad?) to view the mail. This could be done by saving the mail to disk (using a template containing %TEXT) and starting the external program with this filename as parameter. Thanks for your idea. But how do I tell Notepad which font to use? By default, it is of course using Chinese rather than Thai. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. QUESTION: If a fire hydrant has H2O on the inside, what is on the outside? ANSWER: K9P Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Language Switcher
Hello Thomas, On Sat, 2 Nov 2002 10:52:59 +0700 GMT (02/11/02, 10:52 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: I had to go to Options / Editor Prefs / Display / Font: change, and change the font manually to a Thai font in order to be able to read the message. Of course, after reading it, I had to switch the font back to Courier New. To expand on this, I had to change not only the font itself but also the font size. Is there a way to tell TB which font should be associated with a character set, so that an automatic switching takes place? There isn't. My workaround is this: As I usually use the PTV only, I went to Options / Preferences / Viewer and chose RTV. There I set up AngsualUPC (my favourite Thai font) and the size for the RTV. Switched back to PTV. Now, when a mail in Thai comes in, I only need to switch to the RTV; much easier that previously, I don't need to friggle with all these detailed settings. Why is the character set switched correctly in the subject line but not in the body? Question remains. How do other people on this list who read/write in English *and* a local language with non-Latin characters (like cyrillic or Greek) handle this? Do you use just one font, one that has both Latin and local characters, or is there an easy way to switch? Any takers for this question? (I don't like the looks of the English letters in the Thai font I use, so I don't want to use that font as standard for all mails.) This was true to DBThaiText, which I had to use in previous times, as it is a fixed-width font. But luckily, we are not restricted to fixed-width any more with RTV. Latin letters are displayed fine in AngsualUPC, but I just prefer plaintext and Courier New for normal mails. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Si le travail c'est l'opium du peuple, alors je ne veux pas finir drogué...[ Boris Vian ] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: language dependent text per contact group
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Heijo, @30 July 2002, 10:09 +0200 (09:09 UK time) Heijo Alting [HA] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to tbudl: HA Does anybody know if reading the value of the Memo field in the HA address book is possible? Use the %ABtoMEMO macro. More specifically, %LANGUAGE=%ABtoMEMO HA (I'm new to this list as of today. If I'm doing things wrong, HA please be so kind notify me.) Line length is a bit long. Remember to trim and not to top quote when replying. Other than that - Welcome! - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9Rk8WOeQkq5KdzaARAlr0AJ9XinA/S/HYSOPR/ErMnsVdvmRINQCg1zB1 KFSeuHReAeoW+JuI4qFHYJg= =2XAQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: language dependent text per contact group
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Heijo, @30 July 2002, 12:00 +0200 (11:00 UK time) Heijo Alting [HA] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck D Pearlstone: MDP Use the %ABtoMEMO macro. More specifically, MDP %LANGUAGE=%ABtoMEMO HA The macros you mention (%ABtoMEMO and %LANGUAGE) are not in the HA list that is displayed in the Properties dialog box. That may be because the combinations are too numerous to list there. HA Is there a document in which I could find information on these HA additional macros? Yes - the Help file! All macros are documented. Look for Macros in the index. HA And does this document explain in more detail how these macros can HA be put to work in a template? Not really. I recommend the FAQ on the subject: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/macros.html http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/templates.html HA How does one write if the value of the Memo field is equal to A, HA then use template B in the regex language? For one thing, you can't invoke templates; you have to use Quick Templates. The result is something like this: %if:%ABtoMEMO==A:%QINCLUDE='B':%QINCLUDE='C' HA What's trim quote Trimming non-essential text from the quoted material. That keeps replies short and to the point. I have done so here. HA and what's top quote? Top quoting is a terrible habit[*] picked up by users MS OE etc. and involves writing replies all at the top of the message, have a block of Original Message -- followed by some header information and then quoting the *entire* original message below that point (ugly and illegible). [* Some business environments require** this method] [** I dispute this and maintain that a good dose of education could dispel this bad habit g] HA The line length is now 72. Much better. HA ... Hopefully, Tha Bat wil get an extra Editor preference option HA for alternate editing behavior. It has - Auto Format. You have to leave a clear blank line between paragraphs (as I have here) for it to work sensibly. You can toggle it on and off (so that you can type lists etc. without the short lines being auto-wrapped) using the Ctrl-Shift-F shortcut. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9Rm1xOeQkq5KdzaARAk/nAJ9vFnJDoNLxepWfvHrMNaxqRwhdIQCgr618 JbQxmC50+xE639MjJeCbeJ4= =MRUN -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: language dependent text per contact group
Hallo Heijo, On Tue, 30 Jul 2002 15:17:35 +0200GMT (30-7-02, 15:17 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: HA Is it possible to construct a regular expression with more than HA two choices, Like in VBA for MSWord, where you have the CASE HA statement to let people choose from 3 or more options. You can nest if statements, could be something like: Hallo %- %IF:%ToFName=A.Kikkert:Allert:%- %IF:'%ToFName'='Foxman':'Simon':'%- %ToFName', The %- macro is used to make the construct easier to read, the only thing it does is skipping the following line feed. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: language dependent text per contact group
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Heijo, @30 July 2002, 15:17 +0200 (14:17 UK time) Heijo Alting [HA] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck D Pearlstone: HA Is it possible to construct a regular expression with more than HA two choices, Like in VBA for MSWord, where you have the CASE HA statement to let people choose from 3 or more options. Well, you can nest IF statements but a better way is to use the memo to specify the name of the QT to use or blank for default (let's call it A) and then use this: %QINCLUDE=%ABtoMEMO='A' to handle it in a generic template. HA ... I think TheBat! should do something about the editing HA behavior, like double click a word to select it; It already does this. HA triple click a paragraph to select it, etcetera. Interesting thought but I haven't seen many do that. HA All those basic features that make life easy. TB has a different set of such features, better suited for plain text formatting. It's a great editor once you get used to it. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9RpyyOeQkq5KdzaARAtR5AKCqqVWJecpJ94TuJwEUtUCRsg/6RwCdGHuf VRalG1nYW4wNL4+o1b1LTHM= =CRHM -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: language dependent text per contact group
Hi Marck. At 10:03 AM on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 you [MDP] wrote the following about [language dependent text per contact group]: MDP %QINCLUDE=%ABtoMEMO='A' Something I don't understand about memo is the value nnn can only relate to address functions as I recall: to, from, etc. What happens if I just want to see the output of memo [I actually put little notes in there relating to specifics of the addressee] in the body of my msg to remind me of certain things. How would I structure the %ABnnnPPP? TIA -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.62/Beta1/W2K_SP2 ICQ 41116329 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: language dependent text per contact group
Hello Heijo, On Tuesday, July 30, 2002 at 4:50:16 PM you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): HA Could you tell me what I missed in your explanation? As you already guessed: the quotation marks. They are 'pairs'. So if you use two the second closes the first and therefore embraces the content between them both as one entity. (Exception: two directly beneath makes them 'escaping' ... really complex stuff). In The Bat! there are two solutions for nesting ... Use in inner parts of nested structures or use non alpha-numeric characters pair wise. Your example would look like this: %if:%ABtoMEMO==NL:%QINCLUDE='SJABL_NL':%- %if:%ABtoMEMO==EN:%QINCLUDE='SJABL_EN':%- %QINCLUDE='SJABL_ES', quite unreadable ... :-) Better would be: %if:%ABtoMEMO==NL:%QINCLUDE='SJABL_NL':%- %if:_%ABtoMEMO_==_EN_:_%QINCLUDE='SJABL_EN'_:_%- %QINCLUDE='SJABL_ES'_, For deeper structures you can use these characters (as a small excerpt of possible ones) too (beside already used ',,_): [#+*~|$/] HTH Pit -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) Barney of Borg: Being assimilated is fun. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: language dependent text per contact group
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Peter, @30 July 2002, 17:12 +0200 (16:12 UK time) Peter Palmreuther [PP] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Heijo Alting on TBUDL: PP Better would be: PP %if:%ABtoMEMO==NL:%QINCLUDE='SJABL_NL':%- PP %if:_%ABtoMEMO_==_EN_:_%QINCLUDE='SJABL_EN'_:_%- PP %QINCLUDE='SJABL_ES'_, This won't work because the QT names have '_' characters in them. %if:%ABtoMEMO==NL:%QINCLUDE='SJABL_NL':%- %if:#%ABtoMEMO#==#EN#:#%QINCLUDE='SJABL_EN'#:#%- %QINCLUDE='SJABL_ES'#, makes a better example.. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9Rq8wOeQkq5KdzaARAoU1AKCMOXjReMXBR/a9Y1LGgvXSjwFIOACg+uJC XTFOgtITBgQU0+Yt9UyM0ZI= =x/SZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: language dependent text per contact group
Hello Marck, On Tuesday, July 30, 2002 at 5:22:23 PM you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): [wrong example snipped] MDP This won't work because the QT names have '_' characters in them. OK, OK :-) I was to hurry :-) Of _course_ the delimiter character has to be 'unique' regarding to the content it is embracing :-) MDP makes a better example.. Marck does always make the better ones *GGG* :-) -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) A fool and his money are very popular. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Language support / spell checking
Hello Gerard, On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 17:11:47 +0100GMT (25-1-2002, 17:11 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: GdV I would like to know if more people write emails in different languages GdV on a regular basis. I do and it is a pain to switch spell checking each GdV time to the right language. I'm doing so and I'm using folder templates for that purpose. I'm filtering Dutch and English messages into separate folders. Of course I haven't found a way to check whether a message is in a certain language, but knowing certain senders you know their language and you can fit them in an address book group and use those groups as filtering conditions. GdV If not could I request a language selection in the address book, it GdV should automagicly switch the used spell checking dictionary to the GdV proper language when writing emails to this person. That would be a nice feature, but would you like such a feature to be overruled by the %language= macro or would you like the macro to be overruled by the proposed address book switch? -- Groetjes, Roelof -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Language support / spell checking
Hello Gerard! On Friday, January 25, 2002 at 5:11:47 PM you wrote: Does anybody have a better solution? Quick Templates? You can also define different accounts/folders for each language, filter the messages into them and use account/folder templates. I'd go for the QT's, make some basic ones for each language and each purpose and insert them when needed. I've set up QT's for new messages, replies and forwarding in English and German; they are further defined as business and private. Whenever I don't have an AB template and the account templates are not sufficient I mark all the text, type the appropriate QT handle and invoke it. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/31 on Windows 95 4.0 67306684 C Statistics are like bikinis: What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Language support / spell checking
Hi Gerard, Does anybody have a better solution? I regularly write e-mail in both Spanish and English, about 50-50, so it was pain for me until I found a way with Quick Templates. I have created two QTs, one called BR for English and one SP for Spanish. BR is just %LANGUAGE=BR SP is %LANGUAGE=SP Both of them are shared so I can use them from all accounts. Then, when I'm writing a message, no matter if it is new, a reply or fwd, and whether I'm using an account, folder or AB template, if I see I'm using the wrong language dictionary I can at any moment and place type: BRCtrl+Space or SPCtrl+Space to switch to the proper language. -- Saludos, Miguel A. Urech -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Language Support (Korean, Japanese, etc)
Hello Han, On Wed, 7 Nov 2001 17:31:26 +0700 GMT (07/11/2001, 18:31 +0800 GMT), Han Thomas wrote: TF The problem with Thai is that the current version of TB only TF allows monospace characters - I have gotten around to downloading TF other Thai fonts for use in the beta version yet, which has a TF Rich Text viewer. I will report whether the Thai looks better In TB v.1.54b10, Thai looks normal in the RTV, with the vowels and the tone markers where they belong, and the distance between the letters correct. :-) HT Sure, no problem. I can send you a font as well, though I think the Tahoma HT font in international Windows versions can display pretty much HT everything including Thai, IF the encoding is set correctly. I don't know. I have copied a number of Thai fonts into the Windows\Fonts directory and was going to choose one. But: despite my setting to Courier New, which I usually use, the Thai text you provided below showed up correctly! while I don't understand it, I do like it. :-) HT A paragraph of Thai text is below, (which will look distinctly Alien-Greek HT to everyone else). :-) HT ˹ѧÊ×ÍàÅèÁ¹Õé ÁØè§à¹é¹»ÃÐà´ç¹¢èÒÇ·ÕèäÁèä´éÃѺ¤ÇÒÁʹ㨨ҡÊ×èÍÁÇŪ¹ Well it still looks alien in the editor. I would also think that you'd send me an interesting message rather than a preface to a book about some government issues ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. For drowning: Climb on top of the person and move up and down to make artificial perspiration. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.54/10 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Language switch
Hallo Thomas, Iam looking to for a one-key or one-click way to switch between English and German. Any suggestions? (Command line parameters acceptable, as long as it will affect a running TB.) Maybe the %LANGUAGE="xx" macro is what you want. You can give any E-Mail address or any Folder its own language by including the macro into the templates. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Language switch
Hallo Nebula, On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 19:37:36 +0100 GMT (23/01/2001, 02:37 +0800 GMT), Nebula wrote: Iam looking to for a one-key or one-click way to switch between English and German. Any suggestions? (Command line parameters acceptable, as long as it will affect a running TB.) Maybe the %LANGUAGE="xx" macro is what you want. You can give any E-Mail address or any Folder its own language by including the macro into the templates. No it isn't. It will change the spellcheker language, but I was referring the interface language. Thanks for your thoughts, though. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. From a Japanese information booklet about using a hotel air conditioner: Cooles and Heates: If you want just condition of warm in your room, please control yourself. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.49c under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Language support/dictionary
Hello David, On Sunday, September 10, 2000 at 10:19:04 GMT +1000 (which was 5:19 PM where I live) witnesses say David typed: Can anyone tell me how I can change my dictionary from US English to Australian English? Have you downloaded and installed the International Pack? You can get it from http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/download.html. You may need to install the British Dictionary. I can't remember if there is an Australian dictionary. Once you've installed that with the appropriate options, open a message editor (reply to a message or create a new message), and select "Spell Checker - Language" You'll see a drop down list of all the dictionaries you have installed. Select the one you want. This setting should be remembered each time you open the message editor. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/5 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Language
Morning Marco, Is it possible to set the language for the Spell Checker folder specific? For instance in this folder I write in English but in all other folders I write in German. It's fussy to change the language every time I write a new message. I think it should work with template macro %language="language id" Check the help on template macros for appropriate codes. Myself, I never tried it, since my spelling is usually good enough in English or German ;-) -- .. Jast ... mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : using TB 1.42 Beta/19 : with AMD K6-2, 64MB RAM :. on Windows 98 4.10 A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Language Module
Hello \\'alter, Thursday, October 14, 1999, 4:01:14 PM, you wrote: a I use the language module for the Bat! 1.36 for the use of the Dutch language. a After selecting the language 'dutch' only the words and options in the a taskbar change to Dutch (not all, but most options). a But, the words in the inbox (From-to-subject etc) do not change to a Dutch. They are still in English. a Can someone please tell me if that;s normal or how I can change that a in Dutch too? Had the same problem here, but most things appeared in German... (go figure)... I wrote about it directly to RIT but never got an answer... The only thing to do about it is re-translate the language module... (afaik) -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat 1.35 on Windows 98 build 4.10 24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a case - coincidence?? - I think not! **==** If you believe in Light it's because of Obscurity If you believe in Joy it's because of Sadeness If you believe in God then you have to believe in the Devil * Father X, Exorcist, Church of Notre Dame - Paris * **==** -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Language Module
Bonjour, Thursday, October 14, 1999, 4:01:14 PM, \\'alter wrote: a Hi there! a I use the language module for the Bat! 1.36 for the use of the Dutch language. a After selecting the language 'dutch' only the words and options in the a taskbar change to Dutch (not all, but most options). a But, the words in the inbox (From-to-subject etc) do not change to a Dutch. They are still in English. a Can someone please tell me if that;s normal or how I can change that a in Dutch too? In French it does make these changes (From: -- De:, etc.) I have to say it's not so important for me : most of people use english terms when speaking about Internet (using english adds an information : if someone say me that the From: is X I know he is speaking about a mail, this wouldn't be the case if he was speaking about a "de") And I support the idea of Alexander : Thursday, October 14, 1999, 5:04:55 PM, Alexander V. Kiselev wrote: I'd much more love to be able to manage the contents of *every* header field via macroses, this way every user could do whatever he/she wants without bloating the code with all those "zuruck"'s:-)) A bientôt Philippe Elle voulait pas risquer sa vie entiere, sur mon histoire qui tenait pas debout (William Scheller) -- Philippe Gouillou - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.st-kilda.com FAQs francophones en Psychologie : www.st-kilda.com/psyfaqs.htm "Les femmes des riches sont belles" : www.evopsy.org/livre.htm -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --