Re: Language settings

2007-04-23 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Chris,

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 20:14:01 -0500 GMT (23/04/2007, 08:14 +0700 GMT),
Chris W. wrote:

 Main menu: Options / Language

CW Is there any rhyme or reason behind the ordering of the entries?

Nobody has found that out yet, but you have a good point. Maybe they
rhyme in Moldovian language?

Seriously though, I believe the languages are ordered according what
is assumed to be the most often chosen languages, depending on their
customer demographics. If not, the order is just the one in which they
were added.

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Re: Language settings

2007-04-22 Thread Chris W .

Thomas Fernandez @ 2007-4-22 12:41:43 AM
Language settings mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Main menu: Options / Language

Is there any rhyme or reason behind the ordering of the entries?

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Re: Language settings

2007-04-21 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Tony,

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:39:04 +0200 GMT (22/04/2007, 12:39 +0700 GMT),
Tony wrote:

T How do I change the language of the interface?
T (not the spell checker)

Main menu: Options / Language

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Re: %language macro crashes TB

2004-06-15 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Cyrille,

On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 23:07:51 +0200GMT (14-6-2004, 23:07 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

C Indeed. Using Ctrl-Enter instead of the normal reply button does not
C cause these crashes. Strange! But it is rather a workaround than a solution.

I agree with that, I did mention it to ritlabs and they responded to
it, but as it is a rather vague problem, they couldn't pinpoint the
source, so they couldn't fix it.
And since I'm more a keyboard that a mouse person

C This is a real bug. But it is still difficult to say *when* it
C happens. Because it does not happen always, but only in combination
C with certain QTs and with the %Language macro.

That's the reason the bug isn't easy to fix.

C But it is strange that we seem to be the only ones who experienced this
C difficulty

Yep. But then again, I was pointed to the Ctrl-Enter solution by
somebody else as I didn't know that key combo back then. (It's so
comfortably close to Ctrl-], that I'm using for next message.)
For me the weirdest thing was I hadn't changed any of my templates and
all of a sudden TB went crazy, though I believe it was after an update.
That was the reason that my sister kept using an old version. She's
not a computer person, so I have to take of upgrades for her. I
updated her TB only when there was a Dutch interface, but that was
quite synchronized with the older versions.

RO Since then I
RO disabled the main toolbar and gotten used to not using it.

C What do you mean with disable the toolbar? Do you mean simply not to
C *display* it?

Yep. But recently on my new computer I haven't disabled it, nor did I
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Re: %language macro crashes TB

2004-06-14 Thread Cyrille
Hello Roelof,

Saturday, June 12, 2004, 8:16:34 PM, you wrote:

C   But when replying to certain messages, TB crashes.
C   TB opens the editor window as if it were about to generate the text
C   for my reply, but before the generated text shows up, TB gets frozen
C   with a white, empty editor screen; and the only way out is to kill TB.

RO In the past that has happened to me too.
RO Especially when I used a template that set another language for the
RO spell checker than the previous message.
RO However, TB only got stuck when I replied with the reply-button. When
RO I replied with Ctrl-Enter I had no problems whatsoever.

Indeed. Using Ctrl-Enter instead of the normal reply button does not
cause these crashes. Strange! But it is rather a workaround than a solution.

This is a real bug. But it is still difficult to
say *when* it happens. Because it does not happen always, but only in
combination with certain QTs and with the %Language macro.

But it is strange that we seem to be the only ones who experienced this
difficulty

RO Since then I
RO disabled the main toolbar and gotten used to not using it.

What do you mean with disable the toolbar? Do you mean simply not to
*display* it?

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Re: %language macro crashes TB

2004-06-12 Thread Cyrille
Hello TBUDL,

44 hours ago, on Thursday, June 10, 2004, 11:51:42 PM, I wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] about my problems with
crashing TB.

Until know I did not get any answer.

Isn't there anybody who could explain me why TB crashes? Is there
nobody who understands what is going on?  I am stumped.

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Re: %language macro crashes TB

2004-06-12 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Cyrille,

On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 23:51:42 +0200GMT (10-6-2004, 23:51 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

C  The funny thing is now that it works fine for new messages and for
C   many replies. But when replying to certain messages, TB crashes.
C   TB opens the editor window as if it were about to generate the text
C   for my reply, but before the generated text shows up, TB gets frozen
C   with a white, empty editor screen; and the only way out is to kill TB.

In the past that has happened to me too.
Especially when I used a template that set another language for the
spell checker than the previous message.

However, TB only got stuck when I replied with the reply-button. When
I replied with Ctrl-Enter I had no problems whatsoever. Since then I
disabled the main toolbar and gotten used to not using it.
Since last week I've got a new system and I haven't disabled the
toolbar here, but I haven't used it yet, so I don't know whether the
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Re: Language Lists

2004-06-04 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear Thomas,

@4-Jun-2004, 23:54 +0700 (04-Jun 17:54 UK time) Thomas Fernandez
[TF] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Thomas:

BH P.S.  I only found this English list. Theres isn't by any
BH chance a The Bat mailing list in German?

TF There are three:

TF And here is the list of language lists:
TF http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/lists.html

TF (@Marck: The link for the German registration site is outdated.)

(thanks - I'll get it sorted).

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Re: Language field for AB contacts/groups

2004-04-08 Thread Marco Lackovic
Hi everybody!


The 7.4.2004 at 6:46 PM dAniel wrote:
dh I'd like to see a Language field for address book groups, that
dh will be the default for all contacts in that group, but can be
dh overridden for every contact. This field should be then accessible
dh with the %ABnnnLANG macro.

I agree with the usefulness of a language field, but I'd rather put it
in every contact than in the group properties. What would be the
purpose there?


dh The workaround would be to use the Notes field for this, but
dh that's not very intuitive. What do you think?

The workaround for me has been defining a group for every language,
thus I was able to define different templates for each language.


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Re: Language field for AB contacts/groups

2004-04-08 Thread dAniel hAhler
Hello bats,

on Thu, 8. Apr 2004 at 10:29:41 +0200 Marco Lackovic wrote:

dh I'd like to see a Language field for address book groups, that
dh will be the default for all contacts in that group, but can be
dh overridden for every contact. This field should be then accessible
dh with the %ABnnnLANG macro.
 I agree with the usefulness of a language field, but I'd rather put it
 in every contact than in the group properties. What would be the
 purpose there?

The purpose would be that you can set a default for a group. But you can
just set every contact for itself.

On the other hand an entry with the contacts would be enough, because
you could mass-edit a whole group.

I'll file this on Bugtracker later this day..


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Re: Language field for AB contacts/groups

2004-04-08 Thread dAniel hAhler
Hello bats,

on Thu, 8. Apr 2004 at 15:10:36 +0200 I wrote:

 I'll file this on Bugtracker later this day..

https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0002798


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Re: Language field for AB contacts/groups

2004-04-07 Thread Mark Partous

Hello dAniel,

Wednesday, April 7, 2004, 6:46:59 PM, you wrote:

dh I'd like to see a Language field for address book groups, that will be
dh the default for all contacts in that group, but can be overridden for
dh every contact.

dh This field should be then accessible with the %ABnnnLANG macro.

dh What do you think?

Should have been implemented already! :-)


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Re: Language Spell Checking Options in v2.01

2003-10-17 Thread Scott Frederick
Hello Bob,

Friday, October 17, 2003, 12:30:15 AM, you wrote:

BM I recently installed v2.01 over the top of my old 1.62r

I am v2.00

BM and find that although I still have the options of both American
BM English and British English above the line under Spell Checker -
BM Language, and still have British English checked as my option;
BM when I select Spell Checker / Dictionaries, it shows the language
BM as American English for both UserDic.TLX and Correct.TLX with no
BM other alternatives available.

Same, except I have custom words listed that I added when American
English was set.

BM Under the line which I understand to mean that there is no
BM dictionary available, I have American English (CSAPI),  Australian
BM English (my system Language default) and British English listed a
BM second time.

Here I have only British English listed, and none of the custom words.
I just checked my system settings and to my surprise American English
was selected (fixed now).

BM Any suggestions on where I am going wrong, or what other
BM settings I might need to change?  I think I've looked in all the
BM obvious places but I must be overlooking something.

Sorry I can't be more help. I just fought this battle with Microsoft
Word, and it didn't go down easily.

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Re: Language

2003-09-10 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Andreas,

On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 20:40:41 +0200 GMT (10/09/2003, 01:40 +0700 GMT),
Andreas H Johannessen wrote:

   I have updated to The Bat v2 and by a mistake I lost the version 1.6
   where I used the German Spell Checker and was very happy to have
   this service.

I don't spell-check (oh, people can tell sometimes), but there have
been some threads about different German spell checkers on the German
TB Beginner's list. You might want to ask there (in German language).

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Re: %Language Macro lock-ups

2003-06-06 Thread MAU
Hello Roelof,

 In the past I had the same problem. Whenever I replied with a language
 that was different from the language I used last, TB would get stuck.

 The cure was to reply with Ctrl-Enter instead of replying with the
 reply-button on the main tool bar.

I always use the reply button and change between Spanish and English
many times a day and never see any problem.

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Re: %Language Macro lock-ups

2003-06-05 Thread Gerd Ewald
Good afternoon Roberto Machorro !

  
On Wed, 4 Jun 2003 10:55:48 -0400 GMT your local time,
which was 04.06.2003, 16:55 (GMT+0200) where I live, you (Roberto Machorro)
wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 %Language=Spanish


Wrong syntax? Only a guess, but my help file says %LANGUAGE=SP
 ^^
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Re: %Language Macro lock-ups

2003-06-05 Thread MAU
Hello Roberto,

 No luck. I tried re-installing everything but still doesn't work. The
 weirdest part is that it was working before! :(

Can you send a copy of your reply template?

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Re: Language-based template

2003-03-05 Thread Markus Gloede
Hi,

Miguel A. Urech wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

 I only use POFile to classify spam and no-spam but I am quite sure it
 would probably work just fine to classify messages according to
 language. After all, it builds a word list or dictionary for each
 bucket. If I have time to try it I will let you know.

I actually used POPFile to do language recognition and it was quite good
at it. I've never come around to hone my templates accordingly, it was
just an experiment. Most of my communication is in English so I have the
Bat set to spell check in that language. If I need to switch languages
during editing I simply use Alt-H L and pick the language I am writing
in.

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Re: Language-based template

2003-03-05 Thread Luc
 Good evening Roelof,
  
It was foretold that on 4-3-2003 @ 19:09:20 GMT+0100 (which was
19:09:20 where I live) Roelof Otten would mumble:
  
snipped a bit
RO You could use a variety of conditions. Use different e-mail addresses
RO for lists in different languages, then the e-mail address you're using
RO (or the account) defines your language.
  
 k, i'll try that Roelof
 
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Re: Language-based template

2003-03-05 Thread Luc
 Good evening Januk,
  
It was foretold that on 5-3-2003 @ 23:41:24 GMT-0800 (which was
8:41:24 where I live) Januk Aggarwal would mumble:
  
snipped a bit
JA Once we have something like that, then you can use a regular
JA expression
  
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Re: Language-based template

2003-03-04 Thread Krister Ekstrom
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RG   Can The Bat! change the message template automatically - depending
RG   on the language of the message (let's say, English or Russian)?

The way i have it solved now, is that i have a QT which i fire up by
hand when there's an incoming message in Swedish, but i think that it
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Re: Language-based template

2003-03-04 Thread Luc
 Good evening Januk,
  
It was foretold that on 4-3-2003 @ 23:07:00 GMT-0800 (which was
8:07:00 where I live) Januk Aggarwal would mumble:
  
snipped a bit
JA If you have some way of determining the language reliably, then yes.
JA The easiest way is to make your templates as 2 Quick Templates, then
JA use a %IF statement in your main template.  It would be of the form:

JA =[Begin Sample Quasi-template]=
JA %IF:'some condition'='Russian identifier
  
 I  was looking for this a long time but i still have a question: what
   how  should  i  use the 'some condition' ? I'll try to make myself
 clear:  i'm subscribed to several lists and sometimes it happens that
 i  have  to ask something off-list to a member.

 Now,  if  i get a reply and want to reply again, my original language
 kicks  in. The same happens when i just compose a message in english:
 my  sig  etc shows in my native language. So, how and which condition
 do i have to make to set the language to english, both when composing
 as replying. In other words, my english template should kick in (no,
 not with the 'insert QT' shortcut :-) )

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Re: Language-based template

2003-03-04 Thread Miguel A. Urech
Hello Krister,

 is tricky to get TB! to automagically switch languages, maybe with the
 help of Popfile that would be possible. What do you popfile users out
 there say?

I only use POFile to classify spam and no-spam but I am quite sure it
would probably work just fine to classify messages according to
language. After all, it builds a word list or dictionary for each
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Re: Language-based template

2003-03-04 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Luc,

On Tue, 4 Mar 2003 18:23:23 +0100GMT (4-3-03, 18:23 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

L  I  was looking for this a long time but i still have a question:
L  what   how  should  i  use the 'some condition' ? I'll try to
L  make myself clear:  i'm subscribed to several lists and sometimes
L  it happens that i  have  to ask something off-list to a member.

You could use a variety of conditions. Use different e-mail addresses
for lists in different languages, then the e-mail address you're using
(or the account) defines your language.
Use the address book to store language info. Doesn't have to be a
group, but it can also be the country-field from the address book
(%ABToCountry), you don't have to enter the actual country there, but
use something to identify the language you're most likely to have in
common.
Another possibility would be folder templates, though it would be
difficult to get the reply back to the folder where the original
message was created, unless you'd be using the address book again.

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Re: Language-based template

2003-03-04 Thread Miguel A. Urech
Hello Krister,

 The way i have it solved now, is that i have a QT which i fire up by
 hand when there's an incoming message in Swedish, but i think that it
 is tricky to get TB! to automagically switch languages, maybe with the
 help of Popfile that would be possible. What do you popfile users out
 there say?

See my mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject
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Re: Language-based template

2003-03-04 Thread Januk Aggarwal
Hello Luc,

On Tuesday, March 4, 2003 at 18:23 GMT +0100, clairvoyants were
mystified when Luc [L] conjured:

JA =[Begin Sample Quasi-template]=
JA %IF:'some condition'='Russian identifier
  
L  I  was looking for this a long time but i still have a question: what
Lhow  should  i  use the 'some condition' ?

The only way this will work is if there is something common in all
Russian messages, but not in any English message.  Perhaps it is a
character set, or some X-header.  Likewise, if there is something
common for all English messages that is never in a Russian message,
again you'd be ok.

Once we have something like that, then you can use a regular
expression (or someother macro) and compare it to what I called the
Russian Identifier.

Of course if you can't find some common difference for the two
languages, you'd have to apply the appropriate template manually or
use AB templates as Luc suggested.


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Re: Language-based template

2003-03-03 Thread Januk Aggarwal
Hello Robert,

On Tuesday, March 4, 2003 at 08:23 GMT +0200, electricians were
shocked that Robert Golovniov potentially scribbled:

   Can The Bat! change the message template automatically - depending
   on the language of the message (let's say, English or Russian)?

If you have some way of determining the language reliably, then yes.
The easiest way is to make your templates as 2 Quick Templates, then
use a %IF statement in your main template.  It would be of the form:

=[Begin Sample Quasi-template]=
%IF:'some condition'='Russian identifier':'%-
%QInclude=Russian Template':'%-
%QInclude=English Template'
=[ End  Sample Quasi-template]=

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Re: Language Switcher

2002-11-09 Thread Carsten Thönges
* Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

[ Changing fonts to view messages with exotic encodings ]

 I had to go to Options / Editor Prefs / Display / Font: change, and
 change the font manually to a Thai font in order to be able to read
 the message. Of course, after reading it, I had to switch the font
 back to Courier New.

I don't know if this helps, but I would create a manual filter and
invoke it by pressing a hotkey...

The manual filter executes an external text viewer (notepad?) to view
the mail. This could be done by saving the mail to disk (using a
template containing %TEXT) and starting the external program with
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Re: Language Switcher

2002-11-09 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Carsten,

On Fri, 08 Nov 2002 00:18:52 +0100 GMT (08/11/02, 06:18 +0700 GMT),
Carsten Thönges wrote:

 The manual filter executes an external text viewer (notepad?) to view
 the mail. This could be done by saving the mail to disk (using a
 template containing %TEXT) and starting the external program with
 this filename as parameter.

Thanks for your idea. But how do I tell Notepad which font to use? By
default, it is of course using Chinese rather than Thai.

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Re: Language Switcher

2002-11-03 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Thomas,

On Sat, 2 Nov 2002 10:52:59 +0700 GMT (02/11/02, 10:52 +0700 GMT),
Thomas Fernandez wrote:

 I had to go to Options / Editor Prefs / Display / Font: change, and
 change the font manually to a Thai font in order to be able to read
 the message. Of course, after reading it, I had to switch the font
 back to Courier New.

To expand on this, I had to change not only the font itself but also
the font size.

 Is there a way to tell TB which font should be associated with a
 character set, so that an automatic switching takes place?

There isn't. My workaround is this: As I usually use the PTV only, I
went to Options / Preferences / Viewer and chose RTV. There I set up
AngsualUPC (my favourite Thai font) and the size for the RTV. Switched
back to PTV. Now, when a mail in Thai comes in, I only need to switch
to the RTV; much easier that previously, I don't need to friggle with
all these detailed settings.

 Why is the character set switched correctly in the subject line but
 not in the body?

Question remains.

 How do other people on this list who read/write in English *and* a
 local language with non-Latin characters (like cyrillic or Greek)
 handle this? Do you use just one font, one that has both Latin and
 local characters, or is there an easy way to switch?

Any takers for this question?

 (I don't like the looks of the English letters in the Thai font I use,
 so I don't want to use that font as standard for all mails.)

This was true to DBThaiText, which I had to use in previous times, as
it is a fixed-width font. But luckily, we are not restricted to
fixed-width any more with RTV. Latin letters are displayed fine in
AngsualUPC, but I just prefer plaintext and Courier New for normal
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Re: language dependent text per contact group

2002-07-30 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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@30 July 2002, 10:09 +0200 (09:09 UK time)  Heijo Alting [HA] in
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HA Does anybody know if reading the value of the Memo field in the
HA address book is possible?

Use the %ABtoMEMO macro. More specifically, %LANGUAGE=%ABtoMEMO

HA (I'm new to this list as of today. If I'm doing things wrong,
HA please be so kind notify me.)

Line length is a bit long. Remember to trim and not to top quote when
replying. Other than that - Welcome!

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Re: language dependent text per contact group

2002-07-30 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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@30 July 2002, 12:00 +0200 (11:00 UK time)  Heijo Alting [HA] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck D
Pearlstone:

MDP Use the %ABtoMEMO macro. More specifically,
MDP %LANGUAGE=%ABtoMEMO

HA The macros you mention (%ABtoMEMO and %LANGUAGE) are not in the
HA list that is displayed in the Properties dialog box.

That may be because the combinations are too numerous to list there.

HA Is there a document in which I could find information on these
HA additional macros?

Yes - the Help file! All macros are documented. Look for Macros in
the index.

HA And does this document explain in more detail how these macros can
HA be put to work in a template?

Not really. I recommend the FAQ on the subject:

http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/macros.html
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/templates.html

HA How does one write if the value of the Memo field is equal to A,
HA then use template B in the regex language?

For one thing, you can't invoke templates; you have to use Quick
Templates. The result is something like this:

%if:%ABtoMEMO==A:%QINCLUDE='B':%QINCLUDE='C'

HA What's trim quote

Trimming non-essential text from the quoted material. That keeps
replies short and to the point. I have done so here.

HA and what's top quote?

Top quoting is a terrible habit[*] picked up by users MS OE etc. and
involves writing replies all at the top of the message, have a block
of Original Message -- followed by some header information and
then quoting the *entire* original message below that point (ugly and
illegible).

[* Some business environments require** this method]
[** I dispute this and maintain that a good dose of education could
dispel this bad habit g]

HA The line length is now 72.

Much better.

HA ... Hopefully, Tha Bat wil get an extra Editor preference option
HA for alternate editing behavior.

It has - Auto Format. You have to leave a clear blank line between
paragraphs (as I have here) for it to work sensibly. You can toggle it
on and off (so that you can type lists etc. without the short lines
being auto-wrapped) using the Ctrl-Shift-F shortcut.

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Re: language dependent text per contact group

2002-07-30 Thread Roelof Otten

Hallo Heijo,

On Tue, 30 Jul 2002 15:17:35 +0200GMT (30-7-02, 15:17 +0200GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

HA Is it possible to construct a regular expression with more than
HA two choices, Like in VBA for MSWord, where you have the CASE
HA statement to let people choose from 3 or more options.

You can nest if statements, could be something like:

Hallo %-
%IF:%ToFName=A.Kikkert:Allert:%-
%IF:'%ToFName'='Foxman':'Simon':'%-
%ToFName',


The %- macro is used to make the construct easier to read, the only
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Re: language dependent text per contact group

2002-07-30 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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@30 July 2002, 15:17 +0200 (14:17 UK time)  Heijo Alting [HA] in
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Pearlstone:

HA Is it possible to construct a regular expression with more than
HA two choices, Like in VBA for MSWord, where you have the CASE
HA statement to let people choose from 3 or more options.

Well, you can nest IF statements but a better way is to use the memo
to specify the name of the QT to use or blank for default (let's call
it A) and then use this:

%QINCLUDE=%ABtoMEMO='A'

to handle it in a generic template.

HA ... I think TheBat! should do something about the editing
HA behavior, like double click a word to select it;

It already does this.

HA triple click a paragraph to select it, etcetera.

Interesting thought but I haven't seen many do that.

HA All those basic features that make life easy.

TB has a different set of such features, better suited for plain text
formatting. It's a great editor once you get used to it.

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Re: language dependent text per contact group

2002-07-30 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hi Marck.

At 10:03 AM on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 you [MDP] wrote the
following about [language dependent text per contact group]:

MDP %QINCLUDE=%ABtoMEMO='A'

  Something I don't understand about memo is the value nnn
  can only relate to address functions as I recall: to,
  from, etc. What happens if I just want to see the output
  of memo [I actually put little notes in there relating to
  specifics of the addressee] in the body of my msg to
  remind me of certain things. How would I structure the
  %ABnnnPPP?

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Re: language dependent text per contact group

2002-07-30 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Heijo,

On Tuesday, July 30, 2002 at 4:50:16 PM you wrote in
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HA Could you tell me what I missed in your explanation?

As you already guessed: the quotation marks. They are 'pairs'. So if you
use two the second closes the first and therefore embraces the content
between them both as one entity. (Exception: two directly beneath makes
them 'escaping' ... really complex stuff).

In The Bat! there are two solutions for nesting ... Use  in inner parts
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Your example would look like this:

%if:%ABtoMEMO==NL:%QINCLUDE='SJABL_NL':%-
%if:%ABtoMEMO==EN:%QINCLUDE='SJABL_EN':%-
%QINCLUDE='SJABL_ES',

quite unreadable ... :-)

Better would be:

%if:%ABtoMEMO==NL:%QINCLUDE='SJABL_NL':%-
%if:_%ABtoMEMO_==_EN_:_%QINCLUDE='SJABL_EN'_:_%-
%QINCLUDE='SJABL_ES'_,

For deeper structures you can use these characters (as a small excerpt of
possible ones) too (beside already used ',,_):

[#+*~|$/]

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Re: language dependent text per contact group

2002-07-30 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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@30 July 2002, 17:12 +0200 (16:12 UK time)  Peter Palmreuther [PP] in
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Alting on TBUDL:

PP Better would be:

PP %if:%ABtoMEMO==NL:%QINCLUDE='SJABL_NL':%-
PP %if:_%ABtoMEMO_==_EN_:_%QINCLUDE='SJABL_EN'_:_%-
PP %QINCLUDE='SJABL_ES'_,

This won't work because the QT names have '_' characters in them.

%if:%ABtoMEMO==NL:%QINCLUDE='SJABL_NL':%-
%if:#%ABtoMEMO#==#EN#:#%QINCLUDE='SJABL_EN'#:#%-
%QINCLUDE='SJABL_ES'#,

makes a better example..

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Re: language dependent text per contact group

2002-07-30 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Marck,

On Tuesday, July 30, 2002 at 5:22:23 PM you wrote in
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[wrong example snipped]
MDP This won't work because the QT names have '_' characters in them.

OK, OK :-)
I was to hurry :-)
Of _course_ the delimiter character has to be 'unique' regarding to the
content it is embracing :-)

MDP makes a better example..

Marck does always make the better ones *GGG* :-)
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Re: Language support / spell checking

2002-01-25 Thread Roelof Otten

Hello Gerard,

On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 17:11:47 +0100GMT (25-1-2002, 17:11 +0100GMT,
where I live), you wrote:

GdV  I would like to know if more people write emails in different languages
GdV  on a regular basis. I do and it is a pain to switch spell checking each
GdV  time to the right language.

I'm doing so and I'm using folder templates for that purpose. I'm
filtering Dutch and English messages into separate folders. Of course
I haven't found a way to check whether a message is in a certain
language, but knowing certain senders you know their language and you
can fit them in an address book group and use those groups as
filtering conditions.

GdV  If not could I request a language selection in the address book, it
GdV  should automagicly switch the used spell checking dictionary to the
GdV  proper language when writing emails to this person.

That would be a nice feature, but would you like such a feature to be
overruled by the %language= macro or would you like the macro to be
overruled by the proposed address book switch?
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Re: Language support / spell checking

2002-01-25 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Gerard!

On Friday, January 25, 2002 at 5:11:47 PM you wrote:

  Does anybody have a better solution?

Quick Templates?

You can also define different accounts/folders for each language,
filter the messages into them and use account/folder templates.

I'd go for the QT's, make some basic ones for each language and each
purpose and insert them when needed. I've set up QT's for new
messages, replies and forwarding in English and German; they are
further defined as business and private. Whenever I don't have an AB
template and the account templates are not sufficient I mark all the
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Re: Language support / spell checking

2002-01-25 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hi Gerard,

 Does anybody have a better solution?

I regularly write e-mail in both Spanish and English, about 50-50, so
it was pain for me until I found a way with Quick Templates.

I have created two QTs, one called BR for English and one SP for
Spanish.
  BR is just %LANGUAGE=BR
  SP is %LANGUAGE=SP
Both of them are shared so I can use them from all accounts.

Then, when I'm writing a message, no matter if it is new, a reply or
fwd, and whether I'm using an account, folder or AB template, if I see
I'm using the wrong language dictionary I can at any moment and place
type: BRCtrl+Space or SPCtrl+Space to switch to the proper
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Re: Language Support (Korean, Japanese, etc)

2001-11-19 Thread Thomas F

Hello Han,

On Wed, 7 Nov 2001 17:31:26 +0700 GMT (07/11/2001, 18:31 +0800 GMT),
Han Thomas wrote:

TF The problem with Thai is that the current version of TB only
TF allows monospace characters - I have gotten around to downloading
TF other Thai fonts for use in the beta version yet, which has a
TF Rich Text viewer. I will report whether the Thai looks better

In TB v.1.54b10, Thai looks normal in the RTV, with the vowels and the
tone markers where they belong, and the distance between the letters
correct. :-)

HT Sure, no problem. I can send you a font as well, though I think the Tahoma
HT font in international Windows versions can display pretty much
HT everything including Thai, IF the encoding is set correctly.

I don't know. I have copied a number of Thai fonts into the
Windows\Fonts directory and was going to choose one. But: despite my
setting to Courier New, which I usually use, the Thai text you
provided below showed up correctly! while I don't understand it, I do
like it. :-)

HT A paragraph of Thai text is below, (which will look distinctly Alien-Greek
HT to everyone else). :-)

HT ˹ѧÊ×ÍàÅèÁ¹Õé ÁØè§à¹é¹»ÃÐà´ç¹¢èÒÇ·ÕèäÁèä´éÃѺ¤ÇÒÁʹ㨨ҡÊ×èÍÁÇŪ¹

Well it still looks alien in the editor. I would also think that you'd
send me an interesting message rather than a preface to a book about
some government issues ;-)

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Re: Language switch

2001-01-22 Thread Nebula

Hallo Thomas,

 Iam looking to for a one-key or one-click way to switch between English
 and German.

 Any suggestions? (Command line parameters acceptable, as long as it
 will affect a running TB.)

Maybe the %LANGUAGE="xx" macro is what you want. You can give any E-Mail
address or any Folder its own language by including the macro into the
templates.

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Re: Language switch

2001-01-22 Thread Thomas

Hallo Nebula,

On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 19:37:36 +0100 GMT (23/01/2001, 02:37 +0800 GMT),
Nebula wrote:

 Iam looking to for a one-key or one-click way to switch between English
 and German.

 Any suggestions? (Command line parameters acceptable, as long as it
 will affect a running TB.)

 Maybe the %LANGUAGE="xx" macro is what you want. You can give any E-Mail
 address or any Folder its own language by including the macro into the
 templates.

No it isn't. It will change the spellcheker language, but I was
referring the interface language.

Thanks for your thoughts, though.

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Re: Language support/dictionary

2000-09-10 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello David,

On  Sunday, September 10, 2000  at  10:19:04 GMT +1000 (which was 5:19 PM
where I live) witnesses say David typed:


 Can anyone tell me how I can change my dictionary from US English to
 Australian English?

 Have you downloaded and installed the International Pack?  You can
 get it from http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/download.html.  You may
 need to install the British Dictionary.  I can't remember if there is
 an Australian dictionary.

 Once you've installed that with the appropriate options, open a
 message editor (reply to a message or create a new message), and
 select "Spell Checker - Language"  You'll see a drop down list of all
 the dictionaries you have installed.  Select the one you want.  This
 setting should be remembered each time you open the message editor.
  

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Re: Language

2000-04-28 Thread Jast

Morning Marco,

 Is it possible to set the language for the Spell Checker folder specific?
 For instance in this folder I write in English but in all other folders I
 write in German. It's fussy to change the language every time I write a
 new message.

 I think it should work with template macro %language="language id" Check
 the help on template macros for appropriate codes. Myself, I never tried
 it, since my spelling is usually good enough in English or German ;-)


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Re: Language Module

1999-10-14 Thread Roel

Hello \\'alter,

Thursday, October 14, 1999, 4:01:14 PM, you wrote:

a I use the language module for the Bat! 1.36 for the use of the Dutch language.
a After selecting the language 'dutch' only the words and options in the
a taskbar change to Dutch (not all, but most options).

a But,  the  words  in  the inbox (From-to-subject etc) do not change to
a Dutch. They are still in English.

a Can  someone  please tell me if that;s normal or how I can change that
a in Dutch too?

Had the same problem here, but most things appeared in German... (go
figure)...
I wrote about it directly to RIT but never got an answer...

The only thing to do about it is re-translate the language module...
(afaik)

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Re: Language Module

1999-10-14 Thread Philippe Gouillou

Bonjour,

Thursday, October 14, 1999, 4:01:14 PM, \\'alter wrote:

   a Hi there!

a I use the language module for the Bat! 1.36 for the use of the Dutch language.
a After selecting the language 'dutch' only the words and options in the
a taskbar change to Dutch (not all, but most options).

a But,  the  words  in  the inbox (From-to-subject etc) do not change to
a Dutch. They are still in English.

a Can  someone  please tell me if that;s normal or how I can change that
a in Dutch too?


   In French it does make these changes (From: -- De:, etc.)

   I  have  to  say  it's not so important for me : most of people use
   english  terms  when speaking about Internet (using english adds an
   information  :  if  someone say me that the From: is X I know he is
   speaking about a mail, this wouldn't be the case if he was speaking
   about a "de")

   And I support the idea of Alexander :
   Thursday, October 14, 1999, 5:04:55 PM, Alexander V. Kiselev wrote:
   I'd much more love to be able to manage the contents of
   *every* header field via macroses, this way every user could
   do whatever he/she wants without bloating the code with all
   those "zuruck"'s:-))
   


   A bientôt

Philippe

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