Re: Missing folder
On Thursday, November 02, 2000, 11:30:27 PM, ztrader wrote: Hey - that's nice! Just tried it. But that does not seem to be the problem in that folder. Even tried a restart of TB, and it still has only a few msgs. I can see much more looking at the file directly with an editor. They're there, just not showing up in TB. There're a few other things you may try before re-creating the index file (.tbi) per Januk's instruction: 1. Go to the folder, and check deleted messages (from the menu "Folder | Browse deleted messages"). If they're there, they were accidentally deleted. You may move all or some of them back by using drag-n-drop. 2. Do a global search for a message that you're sure to be in that folder, and see if it turns up elsewhere. They might have been moved accidentally. The re-indexing trick as Januk suggested is quick and effective, but please be reminded it has a couple of side effects: 1. All messages you intentionally deleted or moved to other folders *after* you last compress the folder would re-emerge. It's because TB physically removes deleted messages only when compressing a folder (that's why you may undelete even if they're gone from the trash folder). Before that, TB marks a message as deleted in the index file, and such marking would be lost when the index is re-created. 2. All other message annotations kept in the index file would be gone, too. That include most of the attributes you can see in the message list (read/unread, replied, parked, etc.) and memos (yes, memos are kept in the index). -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.48 Beta/1 | Win2k SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Missing folder
On November 3, 2000, at 8:28:39 PM, ztrader Wrote: z I seem to have lost a folder. It had about 100 messages. I read it an z hour or so ago. Just did an alt-f2 to get all mail and was reading z through the various folders, and this folder was listed as having only z one message that just came in! Did you actually lose sight of this Folder... did it actually disappear? From your initial message, it seems that you haven't actually lost the folder, but rather the messages within it, correct? Then I would have to agree with what has already been said... that it quite possibly is a viewing problem. I don't know if views can set on a per folder basis, but highlight the folder, then check View/Display and see if "All messages" is checked. If the messages were inadvertently deleted, then Ming-Li's suggestion of Folder/Browse deleted messages should work. Nick N.J. Andriash [ TB! v1.47 | PGP 7.0 | Win 98 SE ] Vancouver, B.C. Canada | PGP Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE _ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Missing folder
On Friday, November 03, 2000, 8:45:10 AM, ztrader wrote: JA Close down TB and rename the .tbi file of the offending folder. JA This should recreate the index, and hopefully your messages JA will come back to life. I tried that earlier (saving a copy of the original file, too) but it did not seem to help. I'm out of tricks and out of wits. :( I suspect the .tbb file is itself corrupt, if it's true that you can see those disappeared messages with an editor and deleting the .tbi doesn't work. (Please do try again, just to make sure.) Please backup both the .tbi and .tbb files, and try to compress the folder. If the .tbb file is corrupt, there should be some sort of error message when compressing it. Or, please turn on the Size column in the message list pane if it's not one. Check if any message is unusually big. I once had one corrupt message and many other messages were mistakenly treated as part of that message. It happened when I imported my old mail from OE to TB, and it was corrupt in OE. That never happens again. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.48 Beta/1 | Win2k SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Missing folder
Hello ztrader, CTRL + ALT + SHIFT + L Friday, November 03, 2000, 2:28:39 AM, you wrote: z I seem to have lost a folder. It had about 100 messages. I read it an z hour or so ago. Just did an alt-f2 to get all mail and was reading z through the various folders, and this folder was listed as having only z one message that just came in! z I thought this can't be right, and checked the actual file dir on the z disk. There is a pair of files about 1.4 megs - about right for 100 z msgs or so. I don't compress or remove msgs. Any ideas as to what z happened? Why can I see only one msg? z Thanks, z ztrader -- Best regards, -=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Missing folder
On Thursday, November 02, 2000, 8:28:39 PM, ztrader wrote: I seem to have lost a folder. It had about 100 messages. I read it an hour or so ago. Just did an alt-f2 to get all mail and was reading through the various folders, and this folder was listed as having only one message that just came in! So the folder isn't missing, but messages in it are, right? I thought this can't be right, and checked the actual file dir on the disk. There is a pair of files about 1.4 megs - about right for 100 msgs or so. I don't compress or remove msgs. Any ideas as to what happened? Why can I see only one msg? My first instinct is that you unintentionally "set up" a display filter. Do you know that you may click on any field of a message in the message list pane while holding down the Alt key, and create an instant display filter? E.g., in your TBUDL folder (if you have one), find a message by yourself, and click on your own name while holding down the Alt key, then TB would show only messages from you. This is one of my favorite feature about TB. To undo it, just hit ESC or "Ctrl =". -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.48 Beta/1 | Win2k SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Missing folder
Hello ztrader, On Thu, 2 Nov 2000 at 23:30:27 GMT -0800 (which was 11:30 PM where I live) witnesses say ztrader typed: Hey - that's nice! Just tried it. But that does not seem to be the problem in that folder. Even tried a restart of TB, and it still has only a few msgs. I can see much more looking at the file directly with an editor. They're there, just not showing up in TB. Try this: Close down TB and rename the .tbi file of the offending folder. This should recreate the index, and hopefully your messages will come back to life. Good luck. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.48 Beta/1 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Missing Folder
Hello, fellow Bat-lovers. I thought I would swallow my pride and let everyone know the resolution to my problem. My "missing" folder was there. Somehow (I have no idea how), it managed to get moved. It had been moved under one of the other folders, which was collapsed, so I didn't see it in my folder list. Now, why neither Windows nor DOS found it is another question I can't answer So RIT Labs is off the hook...The Bat! is still the best! Embarrassed and feeling like a real newbie, Keith Russell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Missing Folder
Hi Keith, on Tuesday, December 21, 1999, 2:50:20 PM GMT+0800, Keith Russell wrote: KR One of my folders has totally disappeared! Twice, I tried the KR Shift-Ctrl-Alt-L trick and got the message that one lost folder had KR been found; however, the folder was still missing. Now when I press KR that key combination, it tells me no folders were found. KR Is there any way I can get my folder back? Is the directory still on the disk? If, yes, try to create a folder with the same name and point it to that directory. -- Best regards, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.38e under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Missing Folder
Hello Keith, Monday, December 20, 1999, 10:50:20 PM, you wrote: Hello, fellow Bat-lovers. One of my folders has totally disappeared! Twice, I tried the Shift-Ctrl-Alt-L trick and got the message that one lost folder had been found; however, the folder was still missing. Now when I press that key combination, it tells me no folders were found. Is there any way I can get my folder back? Does the directory still exist on your system? In case you don't know how to check, use your favorite file management software to check out The Bat! directory (on my computer that's C:\Program Files\The Bat!\ Go into the mail folder and check around to see if the offending folder still exists. If it does, the Bat! should have imported it when you applied Shift-Ctrl-Alt-L ... Good luck! -- Thanks for writing Januk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Missing Folder
Hello Keith Russell, On Mon, 20 Dec 1999 23:50:20 -0700 GMT your local time, which was Tuesday, December 21, 1999, 1:50:20 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Keith Russell wrote: Go and look if it physically exists. I mean thats the most important thing. If its there, just make a new one with same name as what exists and it should be picked up. maybe first make a copy to be sure Keith Hello, fellow Bat-lovers. Keith One of my folders has totally disappeared! Twice, I tried the Keith Shift-Ctrl-Alt-L trick and got the message that one lost folder had Keith been found; however, the folder was still missing. Now when I press Keith that key combination, it tells me no folders were found. I never use that combo, sofar any time I just recreate account/folders with same name and thats end of problem Keith Is there any way I can get my folder back? Keith BTW, I am running 1.38e. Keith Keith Russell Keith mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.38e mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
