Re: Parking (was: Re: Questions (I'm still too new a user))
Hi Ming-Li On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 07:51:35 -0700GMT (which was 21/09/2000, 16:51 +0100GMT for me), you wrote: ML 1) it's not intuitive to many (if not most) people, who tend to ML think it's for keeping messages from being deleted; and It is intuitive, if you think of it like a car: you put in in 'park' mode if you want it to stay exactly there... when you move it around put it somewhere else, don't be surprised when you're car goes byebye if you didn't put the brakes back on... (which is parking mode...) just my .02 :-) -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roel [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Speelplein Aboe http://www.aboe.zzn.com * Enter any 11-digit prime number to continue... Using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/5 on Windows NT 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 1 with a Amd Athlon 700 @ 256 MB 23Gb Hd -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Parking (was: Re: Questions (I'm still too new a user))
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 22 Sep 2000 01:45:11 +0200, Roel wrote: ML 1) it's not intuitive to many (if not most) people, who tend to ML think it's for keeping messages from being deleted; and R It is intuitive, if you think of it like a car: you put in in 'park' R mode if you want it to stay exactly there... when you move it around R put it somewhere else, don't be surprised when you're car goes R byebye if you didn't put the brakes back on... (which is parking R mode...) LOL! When you choose to move parked messages, a pop-up query appears asking if you 'really wish' to move parked messages. Under that query should be a checkable option to re-enable parking at the new destination. Be that as it may, a simple option to make the message simply 'undeletable' would probably be less annoying and more useful to most. In this way, moving messages around will not affect their 'undeletable' status. So much has been said about this on multiple occasions that it's strange that nothing has been done about it to date. :-)) - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Point not found. A)bort, R)eread, I)gnore. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOcyc1PAXeSHuB5k3EQLxPACgoUYpMx6MN0HQ5G/tvGu5hePJYhYAoK39 VbMbFc+X5yyacpTRh1139kHH =U+nK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Parking (was: Re: Questions (I'm still too new a user))
Saturday, September 23, 2000, 1:06:44 PM, you wrote: When you choose to move parked messages, a pop-up query appears asking if you 'really wish' to move parked messages. Under that query should be a checkable option to re-enable parking at the new destination. Glad you brought this suggestion up, I keep meaning to post something similar, it nearly caught me out recently when I moved parked messages to another folder. I would have thought it safer, and more intuitive, to have parked messages keep this attribute when moved or copied. Be that as it may, a simple option to make the message simply 'undeletable' would probably be less annoying and more useful to most. In this way, moving messages around will not affect their 'undeletable' status. So much has been said about this on multiple occasions that it's strange that nothing has been done about it to date. :-)) Indeed. The lack of any response to requests for "sticky" status of many attributes too is rather odd. I just want to know if it is likely to happen or not, then i can shut up and either rejoice or kick the cat... :^) -- Best regards, Chrismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.formula3.freeserve.co.uk -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Parking (was: Re: Questions (I'm still too new a user))
Hi Allie, ACM When you choose to move parked messages, a pop-up query appears asking if ACM you 'really wish' to move parked messages. Under that query should be a ACM checkable option to re-enable parking at the new destination. elegant solution. Have you sent this in as a suggestion? -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Parking (was: Re: Questions (I'm still too new a user))
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 23 Sep 2000 15:29:01 +0100, Chris Wilson wrote: snip CW Indeed. The lack of any response to requests for "sticky" status of CW many attributes too is rather odd. I just want to know if it is CW likely to happen or not, then i can shut up and either rejoice or CW kick the cat... :^) I say persevere without at the same time being a pest. :-) Many a user request have been granted after creating long discussions about them on list. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "I can do without essentials but I must have my luxuries " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOczmC/AXeSHuB5k3EQJ3cgCgxITmBewTVciK8jxaUWQXf90a5qYAoNjg lgYj9cUitr0kp7ulXozJlCuE =SKr3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Parking (was: Re: Questions (I'm still too new a user))
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 23 Sep 2000 10:38:44 -0400, Havivah D. Schwartz wrote: ACM When you choose to move parked messages, a pop-up query appears ACM asking if you 'really wish' to move parked messages. Under that ACM query should be a checkable option to re-enable parking at the new ACM destination. HDS elegant solution. Have you sent this in as a suggestion? I don't think so, but since it has received such a positive response I guess I should. :-) - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Don't Take Life Seriously, It Is Not Permanent. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOczmhvAXeSHuB5k3EQLdWQCfXgLCnNKmhWSWo7Aq5pmxRRGkPVAAnjoB sN5+5DYwcEfzLU0VKbjtDPGE =w6qf -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Parking (was: Re: Questions (I'm still too new a user))
On Wednesday, September 20, 2000, 12:08:00 AM, Oleg wrote: KS (When you flag or colour a message and then move it, the flag KS and/or colour move as well. I'd expect some kind of consistency KS here.) Parking is a bit different from coloring and flagging. Parking is to prevent from accidentally deleting or moving from a folder. How can a message in one folder be parked to another? While this is technically correct, past discussions have shown that 1) it's not intuitive to many (if not most) people, who tend to think it's for keeping messages from being deleted; and 2) most people indeed want the ability to keep messages from being deleted, and want to keep them that way across folders. So maybe it's time to change the implementation (and maybe give it a new name) or add a new function. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.47 Beta/5 | Win2k SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Parking (was: Re: Questions (I'm still too new a user))
On Tuesday, September 19, 2000, Januk Aggarwal wrote: ... The debate comes down to, is the Parked status a property of the message or a property of the message in the current folder? It appears that the TB developers have chosen the latter. My personal opinion is that it should be a property of the message, so moving or copying does not remove the parked status. Another odd aspect of parking: If I manually re-filter messages in my InBox, applying an Incoming Messages filter intended to move messages to another folder, TB *copies* any relevant messages that are parked to the destination folder with the parking intact. So, in this case, TB treats the parked status as a property of the message. Actually, I think this behavior is probably unintentional (aka bug). :) -- Paula Ford The Bat! 1.46c (reg) Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Parking (was: Re: Questions (I'm still too new a user))
Hello, the Bat! list recipients, Wednesday, September 20, 2000, Karin Spaink wrote to Januk Aggarwal about Parking (was: Re: Questions (I'm still too new a user)): KS (When you flag or colour a message and then move it, the KS flag and/or colour move as well. I'd expect some kind of KS consistency here.) Parking is a bit different from coloring and flagging. Parking is to prevent from accidentally deleting or moving from a folder. How can a message in one folder be parked to another? -- Best regards, Oleg Zalyalov. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! version 1.46c under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Questions (I'm still too new a user)
Hi A, On Monday, September 18, 2000, 4:03 PM, you wrote in part about "Questions (I'm still too new a user)": A I actually meant to put ':-)' there. Switch when you press the A shift key for the last two characters and you get :_0. g and here I thought you were moving into plastic reconstructive surgery. -- Best regards, Gary Today's thought: Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change to take effect. Reboot now? [ OK ] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Questions (I'm still too new a user)
Hello Ming-Li, On Monday, September 18, 2000 at 22:46:07 GMT -0700 (which was 10:46 PM where I live) witnesses say Ming-Li typed: I think the Colour Group editing dialogue box only allows you to choose a font script, but not the font. TB takes the font from a Windows system appearance setting. If I remember correctly, someone suggested it's the "Icon" font. Check again. The font setting is global for all colour groups. You can find it on the main dialogue box for the colour groups (the one where all the colour groups are listed.) :) -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Questions (I'm still too new a user)
On 19-09-2000 at 04:22, Chuck Mattsen kindly wrote: ;-) Just to satisfy a personal curiosity, Karin, tell me what you think of the parking feature and what happens when you move a parked message to another folder. Huh? It Unparks. I'd expect a message to keep its properties when moved or copied to another folder Believe me, there's no need to reply on-list, as it's been beaten to death, but I still have a morbid curiosity for discovering what people find "natural" or "unnatural" about the way a feature works. :-) I'd vote 'unnatural'. - K - -- 'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so many different things.' 'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all. -- Lewis Carroll: Through the Looking-Glass -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Questions (I'm still too new a user)
On Tuesday, September 19, 2000, 12:37:53 AM, Januk wrote: I think the Colour Group editing dialogue box only allows you to choose a font script, but not the font. TB takes the font from a Windows system appearance setting. If I remember correctly, someone suggested it's the "Icon" font. Check again. The font setting is global for all colour groups. You can find it on the main dialogue box for the colour groups (the one where all the colour groups are listed.) :) Indeed. My oversight. Thanks! -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.47 Beta/3 | Win2k SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Questions (I'm still too new a user)
Hello Karin On Tue, 19 Sep 2000 00:44:58 +0200, Karin Spaink wrote: Use Alt-Drag to move a folder to the same level as the folder you drop it on. Use Ctrl-Drag to move a folder to the within the folder you drop it on. KS Works only partially. I am trying to move a top-level KS mailbox to a place _under_ a folder that contains other KS mailboxes. Use Ctrl-Alt-Drag to move into a folder, if i understood you correctly. Regards Peter -- Peter Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Parking (was: Re: Questions (I'm still too new a user))
Hello Avenarius, On Tuesday, September 19, 2000 at 22:03:06 GMT +0200 (which was 1:03 PM where I live) witnesses say Avenarius typed: I'd vote the reverse. Parking -- an astounding, marvelous feature. How many times I accidentaly deleted an archived post in OE because I confused it with another one! This can't happen in TB! if the parking feature is employed. Generally I don't understand why some users complain about advanced features of The Bat! I don't think Karin is complaining about the park feature itself, few of us would. The problem with it is that when you move a parked message to another folder, the parked status is lost in the new folder. The debate comes down to, is the Parked status a property of the message or a property of the message in the current folder? It appears that the TB developers have chosen the latter. My personal opinion is that it should be a property of the message, so moving or copying does not remove the parked status. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Questions (I'm still too new a user)
Hello Karin Spaink, On Tue, 19 Sep 2000 01:07:15 +0200 GMT your local time, which was Tuesday, September 19, 2000, 6:07:15 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Karin Spaink wrote: On 18-09-2000 at 22:08, A. Curtis Martin kindly wrote: On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 21:22:48 +0200, Karin Spaink wrote: (snipped some parts) KS 6. Folder tree: I can't fully gather how the numbers after KS the folder name mean. Example, currently that tree contains, KS amongst others: KS inbox0 (7) 1 (11) Firstly, the inner number columns reflect the tally of unread messages, while the outer columns reflect the total message tally both read and unread. That I figured, but what dazzled me was the inbox figures. (It has no subfolders). But Graha enlightened me and pointed at the filtered mail that had passed through my inbox. I never have more then one number behind the inbox and for sure I filter - K - Best regards, tracer -- Using theBAT 1.47 Beta/1 with Windows NT mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using FireTalk: 321338 ICQ: on request Website: www.phuketcomputers.com Our special website hosting/mailservers are now operational -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Parking (was: Re: Questions (I'm still too new a user))
On 20-09-2000 at 01:26, Januk Aggarwal kindly wrote: [on how TB deals with parking, and unparks a message once it gets copied or moved to another folder] My personal opinion is that it should be a property of the message, so moving or copying does not remove the parked status. Nice summary. I whole-heartedly agree. (When you flag or colour a message and then move it, the flag and/or colour move as well. I'd expect some kind of consistency here.) - K - -- Zwei Dinge sind unendlich: Die Dummheit und das All Nur die Liebe und das Wetter hören nimmer, nimmer auf - Einstürzende Neubauten: Was ist ist -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Questions (I'm still too new a user)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 21:22:48 +0200, Karin Spaink wrote: I'll have a go with some of these questions. :_0 KS 1. Before I made a totally new private address book, I had KS already created two nicknames. I can't seem to find them KS anywhere, but they still work - does anybody have a clue as KS to where they might have gone? I don't know. KS 2. Is there any .ini file that can be manually tuned? KS (Sidequestion: why is all the information about accpounts, KS settings, filters, address books etc, all in a format that KS cannot be viewed in file format? TB!'s settings are stored either in the registry or in binary format in the account folders. There has been a lot of negative commentary about this, especially with respect to the use of the registry. Very recently we were told by Max (one of the two TB! developers) that they'll be moving config data away from the registry. As to the other config data not being in readable, editable format? No-one, including myself has really been having any usability problems since all that configuration may be directly manipulated via the TB! interface. KS 3. Is there any way to manually edit received messages (.e.g KS the Pencil function in Eudora, editing the inbox. file in KS Netscape), other than to export the message, edit and then KS import it? I tried the Netscape method - reading a mailbox KS into Wordpad, take out whatever, close and reread the KS mailbox. That won't work. The only way to do this with TB! *alone* is to drag the message to the outbox, edit it there and then move it back to the original folder. The headers will however be changed when you do this. Otherwise, you'll have to export the message, edit it and then import it. The received time will be changed to the time of importation but the headers will not be changed. KS 4. Mailbox management: I miss a drag and drop option that will allow KS you to move the mailbox (properties and all) to a different place in KS the mailbox structure. Are you speaking about folders here. If you are then, depress the alt button while dragging and dropping. To make a folder, a sub-folder of another then hold-down CTRLALT while dragging and dropping. KS Now I need to set up a new mailbox, move messages and adjust filters KS templates. If you are referring to moving an entire account, then alt-dragging also will move the account so that you can change to order of your various accounts. KS 5. Flagging. I can't really figure what the little red flags in the KS overview folder window stands for, or what it is supposed to do. The red flag is a non-specific marker, the significance of which is solely up to each user. It's just there to mark the message. I use it to mark important messages. KS 6. Folder tree: I can't fully gather how the numbers after KS the folder name mean. Example, currently that tree contains, KS amongst others: KS inbox0 (7) 1 (11) KS mailinglists 0 (7) 0 (10) KS- HFH 3 4 KS- Swans 4 6 KS people 0 (1) KS- Zenon 1 KS sotware 0 (16)0 (19) KS- TheBat 1619 Firstly, the inner number columns reflect the tally of unread messages, while the outer columns reflect the total message tally both read and unread. The numbers in brackets reflect the total tally of unread and read messages in sub-folders if they exist. So for the mailing lists folder you have: 0 unread messages but a total of 7 unread messages in it's sub-folders 0 total messages but a total of 10 message in it's sub-folders. - From the folder structure you have shown there, I see no sub folders for your 'inbox' folder, yet it has bracketed numbers. This implies that the 'Mailinglists' folder is in-fact a sub-folder of the Inbox KS My inbox contains 1 read message. Where does the (11) come KS from, or the (7) for that matter? Isn't 'MailingLists' as subfolder of the inbox? That would clarify the numbers in brackets. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Don't Take Life Seriously, It Is Not Permanent. " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/2 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOcZ2PfAXeSHuB5k3EQKf3QCgh5QYlOj90x1nVintWoxKSS8BS8EAoJaa 2L1mNxXSNfdEluEzMklnQgd7 =ao39 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org [
Re: Questions (I'm still too new a user)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Karin, On 18 September 2000 at 21:22:48 GMT +0200 (which was 20:22 where I live) Karin Spaink wrote and made these points on the subject of "Questions (I'm still too new a user)": KS 1. Before I made a totally new private address book, I had already KS created two nicknames. I can't seem to find them anywhere, but KS they still work - does anybody have a clue as to where they might KS have gone? None at all! Exploring the AB might reveal them at one level or another. Unless by "nicknames" you mean addresses that fill themselves in in the "To:" field when you are typing... if so then those addresses are pulled from the To field history drop-down list. KS 2. Is there any .ini file that can be manually tuned? KS (Sidequestion: why is all the information about accpounts, KS settings, filters, address books etc, all in a format that KS cannot be viewed in file format? Sadly not. This was the topic of a recent lively discussion here on the downside of keeping all settings in the registry. We have been assured that this is changing soon. KS 3. Is there any way to manually edit received messages (.e.g KS the Pencil function in Eudora, editing the inbox. file in KS Netscape), other than to export the message, edit and then KS import it? I tried the Netscape method - reading a mailbox KS into Wordpad, take out whatever, close and reread the KS mailbox. That won't work. Export /edit / import is the best way (the "received" headers don't get changed). Drag to outbox, open, edit, drag back (before it gets accidentally sent) is the other. KS 4. Mailbox management: I miss a drag and drop option that KS will allow you to move the mailbox (properties and all) to a KS different place in the mailbox structure. Now I need to set KS up a new mailbox, move messages and adjust filters KS templates. Use Alt-Drag to move a folder to the same level as the folder you drop it on. Use Ctrl-Drag to move a folder to the within the folder you drop it on. KS 5. Flagging. I can't really figure what the little red KS flags in the overview folder window stands for, or what it KS is supposed to do. No I can't either. You can toggle it on/off on a message, sort by it, turn it on in a filter and use it as a search criteria. KS 6. Folder tree: I can't fully gather how the numbers after KS the folder name mean. Example, currently that tree contains, KS amongst others: KS inbox0 (7) 1 (11) KS mailinglists 0 (7) 0 (10) KS- HFH 3 4 KS- Swans 4 6 KS people 0 (1) KS- Zenon 1 KS sotware 0 (16)0 (19) KS- TheBat 1619 KS My inbox contains 1 read message. Where does the (11) come KS from, The folders contained within the inbox have 11 messages scattered around somewhere in the hierarchy. KS or the (7) for that matter? ... and 7 of them are New (unread). KS The (7) and (10) in Mailinglists I understand: the two underlying KS mailboxes contain 7 unread messages and 10 in total. Same for the KS Software folder. But the meaning of the numbers after the inbox KS elude me. I think you have your folder map wrong. From the numbers you have quoted I would say it looks more like this: inbox 0 (7) 1 (11) - mailinglists 0 (7) 0 (10) - HFH 3 4 - Swans 4 6 - people 0 (1) - Zenon 1 sotware0 (16)0 (19) - TheBat1619 - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY ] Headline - New Study of Obesity Looks for Larger Test Group TB! v1.47 Beta/3 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness! iQA/AwUBOcZ5DznkJKuSnc2gEQI4rQCgoiXM3Kbrwvoxily5UlWyJRJe12YAnRV9 M5TMLZoiqTGjn6ArGif6CAgh =Fufu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org [ attachment has been remove by MDaemon ]
Re: Questions (I'm still too new a user)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 21:20:18 +0100, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: MDP I think you have your folder map wrong. From the numbers you have MDP quoted I would say it looks more like this: MDP inbox 0 (7) 1 (11) MDP- mailinglists 0 (7) 0 (10) MDP - HFH 3 4 MDP - Swans 4 6 MDP- people 0 (1) MDP - Zenon 1 MDP sotware0 (16)0 (19) MDP- TheBat1619 Agreed here. The numbers make sense with what you have there Marck :-) - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Procrastination Day Has Been Postponed! " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/2 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOcaBbfAXeSHuB5k3EQLnDgCbB2Y3ccyxRFx+JgLsQEHCgk7KypMAnA85 RZrX7RqkMyrIMP6f/sJP5pzW =RHUD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org [ attachment has been remove by MDaemon ]
Re: Questions (I'm still too new a user)
Morning Karin Spaink, 3. Is there any way to manually edit received messages (.e.g the Pencil function in Eudora, editing the inbox. Of course you can move to the outbox for edit as Allie suggested. But maybe that's not the ideal solution. It would depend on why you want to edit a received mail. (I've never had a reason to except when resending something, in which case I will drag it to outbox anyway) Other than that, possibly you might want to use the memo function for random thoughts you want to add to a mail? -- .. Jast ... mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : using TB 1.45 : with AMD K6-2, 64MB RAM :. on Windows 98 4.10 A Jabber [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM jasticle ICQ 37456745 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org [ attachment has been remove by MDaemon ]
Re: Questions (I'm still too new a user)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 15:54:08 -0500, Chuck Mattsen wrote: ACM I'll have a go with some of these questions. :_0 CM Which is the symbol for what? Nose out of joint? Got in a fight CM yesterday? Bad plastic surgery victim? ROTFL!! It looks more like the second, ie, nose out of joint. ;-b I actually meant to put ':-)' there. Switch when you press the shift key for the last two characters and you get :_0. g - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Oxymoron: Small Crowd. " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/2 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOcaDIvAXeSHuB5k3EQJo3wCfXfyQTBXe4yugi/HNuUwF/RA0S9QAoNjm S++wzKvpJZMnP97vkjNt/dcY =bLjS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org [ attachment has been remove by MDaemon ]
Re: Questions (I'm still too new a user)
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- - - Original message from: Karin Spaink
6. Folder tree: I can't fully gather how the numbers after
the folder name mean. Example, currently that tree contains,
amongst others:
inbox0 (7) 1 (11)
mailinglists 0 (7) 0 (10)
- HFH 3 4
- Swans 4 6
people 0 (1)
- Zenon 1
sotware 0 (16)0 (19)
- TheBat 1619
My inbox contains 1 read message. Where does the (11) come
from, or the (7) for that matter? The (7) and (10) in
Mailinglists I understand: the two underlying mailboxes
contain 7 unread messages and 10 in total. Same for the
Software folder. But the meaning of the numbers after the
inbox elude me.
- K -
Hi Karin!
The first column you see is the number of *new* messages in and the second column is
the number of messages you have in total. The figures in brackets are the total number
of messages including those filtered. Your Mailing Lists folder has been set up as a
sub folder of your main inbox, and the number in brackets after each figure is related
to those folders.
So, in your inbox you have 0 new (unread) messages and 7 new (unread) messages that
were filtered to your sub folder, mailinglists. You also have 1 message you had
already read which remained in your inbox, which added to the 10 which were filtered
to your mailinglists folder and you read, makes a total of 11 read messages.
Your new (unread) messages to your mailinglists folder were further filtered to your
folders HFH and Swans. Your older (read) messages to your mailinglists folder are
again split between your HFH and Swans folders. Again, the figures in brackets after
mailinglists show the numbers in total which were unread and read, including those
filtered on.
It looks as though you have set up your filters for messages to go directly to your
Folders "people" and "software" without first going to your inbox and being filtered
from there.
I hope that's clear!
Graham
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Re: Questions (I'm still too new a user)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 16:39:43 -0500, Joe Finocchiaro wrote: J Other than that, possibly you might want to use the memo function J for random thoughts you want to add to a mail? JF What "memo function" To invoke the memo editor, hit CTRLSHIFTI or go to View - Memo Auto-view. You may associate a memo with each message and there is a column that you may add to your message list to view the memos. You may also view the memo's by leaving the memo editor window open. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Always glad to share my ignorance - I've got plenty. " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/2 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOcaRA/AXeSHuB5k3EQJeAQCfU4JhtY69YINWg1r3Jp7Nv5aWos0AoPdS 5RprL3e0MIt08qW5oLtXf82G =7aXz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org [ attachment has been remove by MDaemon ]
Re: Questions (I'm still too new a user)
On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 15:08:29 -0500, A . Curtis Martin wrote: ACM Otherwise, you'll have to export the message, edit it and then import ACM it. The received time will be changed to the time of importation but the ACM headers will not be changed. In the past, i have several times complained about the received time problem. Now that it is solved, but has a vivid life as a legend, i owe to RITlabs to point out that it is really only a legend ;-) So: since 1.42, export / edit / import works fine and doesn't alter the received time anymore! But there is one important point: you have to use UNIX mailbox format, not message files, to keep the received time info. Regards Peter -- Peter Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org [ attachment has been remove by MDaemon ]
Re: Questions (I'm still too new a user)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Joe, On 18 September 2000 at 16:39:43 GMT -0500 (which was 22:39 where I live) Joe Finocchiaro wrote and made these points on the subject of "Questions (I'm still too new a user)": JF Monday, September 18, 2000, 4:03:55 PM, Jast, wrote: J Other than that, possibly you might want to use the memo function for J random thoughts you want to add to a mail? JF What "memo function" Hey Joe - welcome back to the neighbourhood :-). In the main TB window see View - Memo auto-view. - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY ] Dry Cleaners: Drop your pants here TB! v1.47 Beta/3 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness! iQA/AwUBOcaYfjnkJKuSnc2gEQKdrgCggWODqWe0ClYgA1+Wvbtw/qg1mQwAoMcn bPkFtGXWqH6knO31EZ2E0I5K =cUy4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org [ attachment has been remove by MDaemon ]
Re: Questions (I'm still too new a user)
On 18-09-2000 at 22:20, Marck D. Pearlstone kindly wrote: Karin Spaink wrote: KS 1. Before I made a totally new private address book, I had already KS created two nicknames. I can't seem to find them anywhere, but KS they still work - does anybody have a clue as to where they might KS have gone? None at all! Exploring the AB might reveal them at one level or another. Unless by "nicknames" you mean addresses that fill themselves in in the "To:" field when you are typing... if so then those addresses are pulled from the To field history drop-down list. At least one of them I clearly remember putting in the AB. But it is nowhere to be seen. KS 2. Is there any .ini file that can be manually tuned? KS (Sidequestion: why is all the information about accpounts, KS settings, filters, address books etc, all in a format that KS cannot be viewed in file format? Sadly not. This was the topic of a recent lively discussion here on the downside of keeping all settings in the registry. We have been assured that this is changing soon. You mean: when Xanadu hits us? ;-) I've been told that TBv2 might take quite some time... [See? Progress! I made my own Tabs! Auto-wrap on, auto-format off, I give cr and then add three spaces. The standard 8 that TB's editor uses as a tab are bit too much for my taste anyway. And I've discovered Alt-L too. You people are indeed helpful.] KS 3. Is there any way to manually edit received messages (.e.g KS the Pencil function in Eudora, editing the inbox. file in KS Netscape), other than to export the message, edit and then KS import it? I tried the Netscape method - reading a mailbox KS into Wordpad, take out whatever, close and reread the KS mailbox. That won't work. Export /edit / import is the best way (the "received" headers don't get changed). Drag to outbox, open, edit, drag back (before it gets accidentally sent) is the other. Ah! The latter method short snappy. The reson why I sometimes need to edit messages it that I am on quite a number of mailinglists, some of them in digest form, and I don't want to store 40k when I only want one single item of a digest. KS 4. Mailbox management: I miss a drag and drop option that KS will allow you to move the mailbox (properties and all) to a KS different place in the mailbox structure. Now I need to set KS up a new mailbox, move messages and adjust filters KS templates. Use Alt-Drag to move a folder to the same level as the folder you drop it on. Use Ctrl-Drag to move a folder to the within the folder you drop it on. Works only partially. I am trying to move a top-level mailbox to a place _under_ a folder that contains other mailboxes. KS 5. Flagging. I can't really figure what the little red KS flags in the overview folder window stands for, or what it KS is supposed to do. No I can't either. You can toggle it on/off on a message, sort by it, turn it on in a filter and use it as a search criteria. I'll wait for further replies ;-) KS 6. Folder tree: I can't fully gather how the numbers after KS the folder name mean. Example, currently that tree contains, KS amongst others: KS inbox0 (7) 1 (11) KS [snip] KS My inbox contains 1 read message. Where does the (11) come KS from, The folders contained within the inbox have 11 messages scattered around somewhere in the hierarchy. Yes, that seems to be what's happening, as Graham explained in greater detail: since filtered mail passes my inbox, the numbers of incoming new mails are preserved there. Ok. I think you have your folder map wrong. From the numbers you have quoted I would say it looks more like this: What I quoted was typed accordingly to what I saw. But Graham's explanation fits. - K - -- 'I make you a present of everything I've said as yet.' -- Lewis Carroll: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org [ attachment has been remove by MDaemon ]
Re: Questions (I'm still too new a user)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 19 Sep 2000 00:30:18 +0200, Peter Steiner wrote: PS In the past, i have several times complained about the received time PS problem. Now that it is solved, but has a vivid life as a legend, i PS owe to RITlabs to point out that it is really only a legend ;-) PS So: since 1.42, export / edit / import works fine and doesn't alter PS the received time anymore! But there is one important point: you have PS to use UNIX mailbox format, not message files, to keep the received PS time info. Thanks for the clarification Pete. :-) - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "If you associate with the wise, you will become wise. " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/2 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOcadGvAXeSHuB5k3EQLHdQCdHCCtYJyPNnPD9Z+/TOumeZ4nwg8AnA7B gvkkWaDlc5gy9kyGjIsQn5Mx =zXuG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org [ attachment has been remove by MDaemon ]
Re: Questions (I'm still too new a user)
On 18-09-2000 at 22:08, A. Curtis Martin kindly wrote: On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 21:22:48 +0200, Karin Spaink wrote: KS 4. Mailbox management: I miss a drag and drop option that will allow KS you to move the mailbox (properties and all) to a different place in KS the mailbox structure. Are you speaking about folders here. If you are then, depress the alt button while dragging and dropping. To make a folder, a sub-folder of another then hold-down CTRLALT while dragging and dropping. That's the one. Ctrl-Alt-drag allows you to move a mailbox down a level. Another question down, Thanks! KS 5. Flagging. I can't really figure what the little red flags in the KS overview folder window stands for, or what it is supposed to do. The red flag is a non-specific marker, the significance of which is solely up to each user. It's just there to mark the message. I use it to mark important messages. Ah, ok. I am used to colour-coding for that. Eudora has six colour codes that I use. Erm,. but in that case, what is the colour grouping in TB supposed to do? (Folder view menu, right click, Colour group)? KS 6. Folder tree: I can't fully gather how the numbers after KS the folder name mean. Example, currently that tree contains, KS amongst others: KS inbox0 (7) 1 (11) Firstly, the inner number columns reflect the tally of unread messages, while the outer columns reflect the total message tally both read and unread. That I figured, but what dazzled me was the inbox figures. (It has no subfolders). But Graha enlightened me and pointed at the filtered mail that had passed through my inbox. - K - -- 'I make you a present of everything I've said as yet.' -- Lewis Carroll: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org [ attachment has been remove by MDaemon ]
Re: Questions (I'm still too new a user)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Karin, On 19 September 2000 at 01:07:15 GMT +0200 (which was 00:07 where I live) Karin Spaink wrote and made these points on the subject of "Questions (I'm still too new a user)": KS Ah, ok. I am used to colour-coding for that. Eudora has six KS colour codes that I use. KSErm,. but in that case, what is the colour grouping in TB KS supposed to do? (Folder view menu, right click, Colour KS group)? That's closer to the Eudora colour-coding except TB has completely open ended, user definable colour groups. As many as you want. KS That I figured, but what dazzled me was the inbox figures. KS (It has no subfolders). But Graha enlightened me and pointed KS at the filtered mail that had passed through my inbox. You know, that doesn't make sense here, but if you're sure - you're sure shrug. The only way I can make sense of it is by saying that the Inbox *does* have sub-folders, which is why I re-did the diagram the way I did and why Allie (Curtis) said that made sense of it. I personally don't get counts sticking in my inbox because "messages have been through it". You clearly know what you're doing with an email client and folder structures, so I'm not saying that you're wrong - I'm just having trouble understanding. - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY ] File not found. Should I fake it? (Y/N) TB! v1.47 Beta/3 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness! iQA/AwUBOcalyTnkJKuSnc2gEQIagQCgpUeEQ3UPY3UZeglXoi3HffLYxBIAnj4S lFQMksIiunq9ha0YoHIz0TBp =m7rF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org [ attachment has been remove by MDaemon ]
Re: Questions (I'm still too new a user)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi ztrader, On 19 September 2000 at 16:20:30 GMT -0700 (which was 00:20 where I live) ztrader wrote and made these points on the subject of "Questions (I'm still too new a user)": z Where are these stored? If I archive messages, does this go along z with each message? In the .TBI file :-(. - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY ] Kids Stuff: Some oxygen molecules help fires burn while others help make water, so sometimes it's brother against brother. TB! v1.47 Beta/3 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness! iQA/AwUBOcal6DnkJKuSnc2gEQJB4QCgyxLgL8KjMDNj0f4soNtC1aPul/MAoMff zsFTgx3/ebA797jlAYE3lw12 =MfXq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org [ attachment has been remove by MDaemon ]
Re: Questions (I'm still too new a user)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 19 Sep 2000 01:07:15 +0200, Karin Spaink wrote: KS Ah, ok. I am used to colour-coding for that. Eudora has six KS colour codes that I use. KSErm,. but in that case, what is the colour grouping in TB KS supposed to do? (Folder view menu, right click, Colour KS group)? Well with TB! you aren't limited to 6 colors. You may use any colour to label a message. You may also label the message with a different colour text and/or a different colour background. You may even do things with the text such as make it bold, italicise, underline or a combination thereof. You may open the colour groups config editor by going to options message list colours. Create a colour group. You may now associate that colour group with any message/s by selecting the message/s, rightclicking on the message/s and in the popup menu, going to 'colour groups' and selecting any defined colour group. What's even more exciting is that colour groups may be applied as a filter action. KS That I figured, but what dazzled me was the inbox figures. KS (It has no subfolders). But Graha enlightened me and pointed KS at the filtered mail that had passed through my inbox. I don't see this happening with my Inbox which doesn't have any sub-folders. shrug - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Don't Take Life Seriously, It Is Not Permanent. " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/2 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOcam4/AXeSHuB5k3EQK9mwCg+H/TR2pR76EZIfVIoFy2Oxp9hzUAoPk2 HHdc5J1CLoNaedtZhJpWOFiW =PRzA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org [ attachment has been remove by MDaemon ]
Re: Questions (I'm still too new a user)
On 19-09-2000 at 01:31, Marck D. Pearlstone kindly wrote: Karin Spaink wrote: KS Ah, ok. I am used to colour-coding for that. Eudora has six KS colour codes that I use. KSErm,. but in that case, what is the colour grouping in TB KS supposed to do? (Folder view menu, right click, Colour KS group)? That's closer to the Eudora colour-coding except TB has completely open ended, user definable colour groups. As many as you want. I thought as much. But in that case, I fall back upon my original question: what are flags for (esp. if you can colour code a message that you want to cry out to you). KS That I figured, but what dazzled me was the inbox figures. KS (It has no subfolders). But Graha enlightened me and pointed KS at the filtered mail that had passed through my inbox. You know, that doesn't make sense here, but if you're sure - you're sure shrug. The only way I can make sense of it is by saying that the Inbox *does* have sub-folders, which is why I re-did the diagram the way I did and why Allie (Curtis) said that made sense of it. I personally don't get counts sticking in my inbox because "messages have been through it". You clearly know what you're doing with an email client and folder structures, so I'm not saying that you're wrong - I'm just having trouble understanding. Ok. Perhaps a picture can tell a bit more than words and numbers can... The moment I reproduce the error / fluke / bug / unexpected thingie, I'll make a snapshot and post the url here. - K - -- 'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so many different things.' 'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all. -- Lewis Carroll: Through the Looking-Glass -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org [ attachment has been remove by MDaemon ]
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Hello Karin, On Monday, September 18, 2000 at 02:27:46 GMT +0200 (which was 5:27 PM where I live) witnesses say Karin Spaink typed: I thought as much. But in that case, I fall back upon my original question: what are flags for (esp. if you can colour code a message that you want to cry out to you). I use flagged messages to mark that I've seen a message but it is not read. I use colour groups to indicate mail from certain sources. So any mail from my thesis supervisor gets coloured blue. I usually read his mail right away. But if I just don't have time, or I want to indicate that I should reread the message later, then I use flags. I do this with other mail too, but it isn't so great for a mailing list like this if you're using threaded views. There is currently no indication that you have a flagged or coloured message hiding in a collapsed thread. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org [ attachment has been remove by MDaemon ]
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On Monday, September 18, 2000 at 7:27 PM or thereabouts, Karin Spaink wrote the following about Questions (I'm still too new a user): KS I thought as much. But in that case, I fall back upon my KS original question: what are flags for (esp. if you can colour KS code a message that you want to cry out to you). If I remember correctly, the ability to "flag" a message came quite a bit before color coding was implemented ... I use flagging for one purpose only, and that is to signify that a message includes a text string which makes it of more importance to me. For instance, I get a U.S. severe weather forecast email every morning, and I have the filter set to flag it if it sees the words "Minnesota" or "Twin Cities" or "Minneapolis" ... if it does, I know that there's something that concerns me. Otherwise, I think color coding is much more useful; it certainly allows for more options. (However, I've seen what can happen with *too much* color ... eeuuuw. Makes for a rather busy looking inbox.) I guess you can think of the flag as an alternative to one of the colors, or an addition to one, but other than that it seems pretty superfluous now that the color coding is in place. Chuck -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Chuck Mattsen[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mindspring.com/~mattsen =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Random Thought/Quote for this Message: Nobody can give you freedom. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org [ attachment has been remove by MDaemon ]
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On Monday, September 18, 2000 at 7:59 PM or thereabouts, BillG wrote the following about Questions (I'm still too new a user): B My only question: why is that feature so well hidden? I don't see B under any menus. I would never have know about it, except for B this thread. You have to be a 32nd degree Mason to be given all of the keystroke commands ... rest assured that loose lips shall be punished. Tell no one. Chuck -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Chuck Mattsen[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mindspring.com/~mattsen =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Random Thought/Quote for this Message: Decisions terminate panic. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org [ attachment has been remove by MDaemon ]
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On 19-09-2000 at 01:36, A. Curtis Martin kindly wrote: On Tue, 19 Sep 2000 01:07:15 +0200, Karin Spaink wrote: KS Ah, ok. I am used to colour-coding for that. Eudora has six KS colour codes that I use. KSErm,. but in that case, what is the colour grouping in TB KS supposed to do? (Folder view menu, right click, Colour KS group)? Well with TB! you aren't limited to 6 colors. You may use any colour to label a message. Three is quite sufficient: important personal mail, important business mail, important for ideas. You may also label the message with a different colour text and/or a different colour background. You may even do things with the text such as make it bold, italicise, underline or a combination thereof. ... but not make it proportioanl, right? ;-) Ok, I'll shut up about fixed fonts. KS That I figured, but what dazzled me was the inbox figures. KS (It has no subfolders). But Graha enlightened me and pointed KS at the filtered mail that had passed through my inbox. I don't see this happening with my Inbox which doesn't have any sub-folders. shrug I'll wait until it reprocuces and then make a screenshot. (But of course - Murphy's law - in the past hour I didn't see these weird figures.) - K - -- 'When I make a word do a lot of work like that,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'I always pay it extra.' -- Lewis Carroll: Through the Looking-Glass -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org [ attachment has been remove by MDaemon ]
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On 19-09-2000 at 02:59, BillG kindly wrote: Karin Spaink wrote: [See? Progress! I made my own Tabs! Auto-wrap on, auto-format off, I give cr and then add three spaces. The standard 8 that TB's editor uses as a tab are bit too much for my taste anyway. And I've discovered Alt-L too. You people are indeed helpful.] Oh Cool! Alt-L !! That is the feature I was looking for! Funny that I was able to give you a tip. I only started using TB on Staurday ;-) Then again, I was informed about it here. My only question: why is that feature so well hidden? I don't see under any menus. I would never have know about it, except for this thread. Something with "Block". But for the life of me, currently I can't find this menu. It had four options to be exercised on blocks (i.e. paragraphs), that much I remember. searches Within a message that you're composing, right-click the mouse. Third but last item is "Block type" but that's not the one that you want. But the Help file does list key-stroke block commands: Mark the beginning of a block Ctrl+K B Mark the end of a block Ctrl+K K Copy the block to Clipboard Ctrl+Ins or Ctrl+C Cut the block Shift+Del or Ctrl+Xl Paste the block from Clipboard Shift+Ins or Ctrl+V Paste the block from Clipboard as quotation Alt+Ins Read the block from fileCtrl+K R Write the block to a file Ctrl+K W Move the block left to rightCtrl+K I Move the block to the left Ctrl+K U Switch block type to stream (default) Ctrl+O K Switch block type to column Ctrl+O C Switch block type to linear Ctrl+O L Justify the block or paragraph Alt+J Align the block on left end Alt+L Align the block on right endAlt+R - K - -- 'When I make a word do a lot of work like that,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'I always pay it extra.' -- Lewis Carroll: Through the Looking-Glass -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org [ attachment has been remove by MDaemon ]
Re: Questions (I'm still too new a user)
On Monday, September 18, 2000 at 8:15 PM or thereabouts, Karin Spaink wrote the following about Questions (I'm still too new a user): My only question: why is that feature so well hidden? I don't see under any menus. I would never have know about it, except for this thread. KS Something with "Block". But for the life of me, currently I KS can't find this menu. It had four options to be exercised on KS blocks (i.e. paragraphs), that much I remember. [violating my 32nd degree Masonic oath here] ... It's one of those quirky little things about TB! that we all come across. When editing a message, it's under UTILITIES | Format Block ... logic (my brand, anyway) would put it under the EDIT menu instead, but ... Chuck -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Chuck Mattsen[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mindspring.com/~mattsen =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Random Thought/Quote for this Message: Practice Random Kindness and Senseless Acts of Beauty -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org [ attachment has been remove by MDaemon ]
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Hello Karin, On Monday, September 18, 2000 at 03:05:36 GMT +0200 (which was 6:05 PM where I live) witnesses say Karin Spaink typed: ... but not make it proportioanl, right? ;-) Ok, I'll shut up about fixed fonts. Actually, this is one instance where you can use any font you wish. For the message list you can have one font, (any font), and different colour groups can have any bolding/italics/colours/etc. It is all available through the Colour Group editing dialogue box. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
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On Monday, September 18, 2000, Chuck Mattsen wrote: On Monday, September 18, 2000 at 7:27 PM or thereabouts, Karin Spaink wrote the following about Questions (I'm still too new a user): KS I thought as much. But in that case, I fall back upon my KS original question: what are flags for (esp. if you can colour KS code a message that you want to cry out to you). If I remember correctly, the ability to "flag" a message came quite a bit before color coding was implemented ... My recollection is that they were both implemented in the same version. The only reason for having both is that some of us asked for the flagging marker and RIT Labs tries to be accommodating. Aren't they nice? I was one of the people asking for the flag as a quick way to mark important messages. I personally dislike color coding and don't use or feel the need to use it, but it's only a personal preference. Karin, you can remove the Flag column from your messages list display and forget about it, if you have no use for it. -- Paula Ford The Bat! 1.46c (reg) Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
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On Monday, September 18, 2000, BillG wrote: Oh Cool! Alt-L !! That is the feature I was looking for! My only question: why is that feature so well hidden? I don't see under any menus. I would never have know about it, except for this thread. Try Help|Message Editor|Block and Formatting Commands. There's also Alt-J if you want your test fully justified. -- Paula Ford The Bat! 1.46c (reg) Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
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On Monday, September 18, 2000 at 8:38 PM or thereabouts, Paula Ford wrote the following about Questions (I'm still too new a user): If I remember correctly, the ability to "flag" a message came quite a bit before color coding was implemented ... PF My recollection is that they were both implemented in the same PF version. You may be correct. The web site "what's new" history shows both as having shown up in the 1.42 release ... whether they were staggered in the betas for 1.42 or not is more than this aging brain can recall sufficiently. PF Karin, you can remove the Flag column from your messages list PF display and forget about it, if you have no use for it. ;-) Just to satisfy a personal curiosity, Karin, tell me what you think of the parking feature and what happens when you move a parked message to another folder. Believe me, there's no need to reply on-list, as it's been beaten to death, but I still have a morbid curiosity for discovering what people find "natural" or "unnatural" about the way a feature works. :-) Chuck -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Chuck Mattsen[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mindspring.com/~mattsen =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Random Thought/Quote for this Message: All your future lies beneath your hat. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Questions (I'm still too new a user)
Hi Karin, On Tue, 19 Sep 2000 01:07:15 +0200GMT (19/09/2000, 07:07 +0800GMT), Karin Spaink wrote: KSErm,. but in that case, what is the colour grouping in TB KS supposed to do? (Folder view menu, right click, Colour KS group)? Whatever you want. I use it only for messages from my boss, I make them "blue". As for the flags, they mean whatever you want them to mean. I use them for messages that I have read but that still need replying. So, I use the colours and the flags for different purposes. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.46c under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
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Hi Joe, On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 18:06:00 -0500GMT (19/09/2000, 07:06 +0800GMT), Joe Finocchiaro wrote: JF Do you know what the maximum capacity, if any, of the memo field is? How big is your HD? -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.46c under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
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Hi Karin, On Tue, 19 Sep 2000 00:44:58 +0200GMT (19/09/2000, 06:44 +0800GMT), Karin Spaink wrote: KS 2. Is there any .ini file that can be manually tuned? Sadly not. This was the topic of a recent lively discussion here on the downside of keeping all settings in the registry. We have been assured that this is changing soon. KS You mean: when Xanadu hits us? ;-) Not quite. ;-) I understand that the Ritmasters will change from using the registry to using .ini files within the 1.x series. KS I've been told that TBv2 might take quite some time... No you haven't. In fact, you have not been told at all how much time it will take. :-) KS [See? Progress! vbg See? It's working! (Government warning: TB is addictive, this is your last chance to "just say no".) KS 5. Flagging. I can't really figure what the little red KS flags in the overview folder window stands for, or what it KS is supposed to do. No I can't either. You can toggle it on/off on a message, sort by it, turn it on in a filter and use it as a search criteria. KS I'll wait for further replies ;-) See above. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.46c under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
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On Monday, September 18, 2000, 5:27:46 PM, Karin wrote: I thought as much. But in that case, I fall back upon my original question: what are flags for (esp. if you can colour code a message that you want to cry out to you). I guess you've never wanted to subject a message to two different color. Both are for you to make some messages standing out, and their applications are only limited by your imagination. Personally, I use the flag for messages I want to mark temporarily, and save color groups for more permanent purposes, for it's easier to tag/untag a message with a single mouse click. E.g., in active mailing lists like TBUDL/TBBETA, I usually flag messages on which I may want to follow up later--after I've finished reading all new messages. In most cases, this practice let me avoid repeating questions others have answered, offering duplicate answers, and beating up on dead horses. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.47 Beta/3 | Win2k SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
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On Monday, September 18, 2000, 6:35:43 PM, Januk wrote: ... but not make it proportioanl, right? ;-) Ok, I'll shut up about fixed fonts. Actually, this is one instance where you can use any font you wish. For the message list you can have one font, (any font), and different colour groups can have any bolding/italics/colours/etc. It is all available through the Colour Group editing dialogue box. I think the Colour Group editing dialogue box only allows you to choose a font script, but not the font. TB takes the font from a Windows system appearance setting. If I remember correctly, someone suggested it's the "Icon" font. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.47 Beta/3 | Win2k SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
