Re: Sanctioned bayes plugins (redux)
Hello Bill, >> FWIW, I installed Antispamsniper earlier this month. As of right now, >> with 1520 messages received, the error rate is 0.72%. I'm also using >60 >> as the spam score. > Is that with the commercial or free version? The commercial version. I ran the free version for just a few days, then registered. I should have been more careful with the figures I mentioned. They are accurate, but they do not represent *all* messages received since the original installation. I ran the plugin for about ten days for a learning period; then reset the statistics back to zero to see how it performed. -- Dave Goodman The Bat! 3.80.06 AntispamSniper 1.6.4 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sanctioned bayes plugins (redux)
On Wed 23-Aug-06 3:43pm -0600, Dave Goodman wrote: >> I've been trying Antispamsniper and it seems to miss about half the >> spam. I have it set to mark as spam if it has a score of 60. Should >> I be setting this much lower? I'm not getting many false positives >> but it is missing a lot. > > FWIW, I installed Antispamsniper earlier this month. As of right now, > with 1520 messages received, the error rate is 0.72%. I'm also using >60 > as the spam score. Is that with the commercial or free version? -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro :beta: 3.81.15 Beta BayesIt! 0.8.4 X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sanctioned bayes plugins (redux)
Hello Kitty, > I've been trying Antispamsniper and it seems to miss about half the > spam. I have it set to mark as spam if it has a score of 60. Should > I be setting this much lower? I'm not getting many false positives > but it is missing a lot. FWIW, I installed Antispamsniper earlier this month. As of right now, with 1520 messages received, the error rate is 0.72%. I'm also using >60 as the spam score. -- Dave Goodman The Bat! 3.80.06 AntispamSniper 1.6.4 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sanctioned bayes plugins (redux)
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:59:55 -0500GMT (22-8-2006, 17:59 +0200, where I live), Jim Kyle wrote: > On Tuesday, August 22, 2006, at 10:49:04 AM, Kitty wrote: >> I've been trying Antispamsniper and it seems to miss about half the >> spam. I have it set to mark as spam if it has a score of 60. Should >> I be setting this much lower? I'm not getting many false positives >> but it is missing a lot. > I have mine set at 55. However it takes quite a bit of training. I'm > still getting a few undetected, but the detection rate is rapidly > increasing. At present I'm highlighting the whole Junk folder and > clicking the "junk" button each time I check the mail, and also > clicking "not junk" for each good message. It's important to let it > know what is not junk, as well as what is junk... Mine is still at 90 from the time I used BayesFilter and it is working like a charm. -- Henk M. de Bruijn __ The Bat! E-Mail System version 3.81.15 Beta Pro on Windows XP SP2 PGPkey at: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0X11EECBEEB464DD0F Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org A progressive and innovative Web of Trust pgpuUeNhBVfu4.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sanctioned bayes plugins (redux)
Hello rich, Tuesday, August 8, 2006, 9:17:57 PM, you wrote: rg> Actually, I didn't miss it.. I was just quoting from the RitLabs web rg> site... I am in fact trying this product now myself but am always rg> looking for greener grass. Did you ever check if your stomach happens to have four compartments? :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 3.81.14 Beta Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sanctioned bayes plugins (redux)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ***^\ ."_)~~ ~( __ _"o Was another beautiful day, Tue, 8 Aug 2006, @ @ at 15:17:57 -0400, when rich gregory wrote: MP>> | Upgrade info: http://antispamsniper.com/upgrade.html MP>> `-8<--- MP>> After trying it out for ± a month I have paid for the commercial version. > Actually, I didn't miss it.. I was just quoting from the RitLabs web > site... I am in fact trying this product now myself but am always > looking for greener grass. This Gregory has best excuses. After, and after, Mark Partous. (-: The legendary Czechosloveniac. - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://blueness.port5.com/pgpkeys/ http://tronogi.tripod.com/pgp/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 670 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.6, Gentoo & Vector ~ Wine ~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given in my "From|Reply To" field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6-svn-4217 <>o<> tiger192 (Cygwin/MinGW32) iQEVAwUBRNj3N7SpHvHEUtv8AQiF9gf/RiAyCN6TNmLtcYxQaRqQbugreRtpMw0s ctOGPY2UK2Y/SsNmZOPI/brYyZcOwlsxKj1rFLadoigYBHU9/VZUCTqpyKzPsVt5 6X/axHLwoCDt5PGghZZCWG0FP7urVS6AkMREbWqsh6VEdySx5AAHS3s9oge7xgm3 wkPWMyyVzCZ5NiHbs6aqVapeBLiosuT1pnVFZwtESoTiYpwo6jxbhp1L6t8hEyv/ jCJz1u6T0R1QZDA+DVDj65PgdVnh6AkStprAlzHEcVl37odSDtnmL75E8MN3HhV0 t35Ded2CD2jSRY0OD9ywz+wy7tfw2AdrRVaarsfY4J2XixbWnmQ3aQ== =ckg5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sanctioned bayes plugins (redux)
On Tuesday, August 8, 2006, at 1:14:46 AM, rich gregory wrote: > Anyone care to comment on these? I tried the first two, then came across the AntiSpamSniper mentioned in another reply. After using it for a couple of days (the free version, which doesn't have all the features) I found it to be doing a much better job of learning and classifying, so will be buying it. I've not tried the last one, but the Sniper is doing so well I feel no need to keep searching... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sanctioned bayes plugins (redux)
Hello MikeD, Tuesday, August 8, 2006, 1:37:33 PM, you wrote: M2> Hello rich, M2> Tuesday, August 8, 2006, 2:14:46 AM, you wrote: rg>> Bayes Filter Plugin by Achim Winkler rg>> BayesIt! by Alexey Vinogradov rg>> Agava Antispamservant Plugin rg>> Anyone care to comment on these? M2> There are days I think about going back to BayesIt again to see if it M2> has gotten any better. But I am mostly lazy and have not gotten M2> around to it Rich has missed one. And you could test the severeness of your laziness :-) by trying out this one: ,--/ from a message from Marek Mikus: \ | developer of AntispamSniper released FREE version of its plugin, this version | misses some advanced features (DNSBL, deleting spam on server, Anti-phishing | etc.), but it is fully functional and with no trial. | | Download: http://antispamsniper.com/thebat_plugin.html | | Upgrade info: http://antispamsniper.com/upgrade.html `-8<--- After trying it out for ± a month I have paid for the commercial version. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 3.81.14 Beta Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sanctioned bayes plugins (redux)
Hello rich, Tuesday, August 8, 2006, 2:14:46 AM, you wrote: rg> Hello Bat-Folk! rg> On the RitLabs site downloads page there are 3 anti spam downloads rg> available. rg> Bayes Filter Plugin by Achim Winkler rg> BayesIt! by Alexey Vinogradov rg> Agava Antispamservant Plugin rg> Anyone care to comment on these? I have used BayesIt in the past. It worked (mostly) OK. I had no problems with it, but it was not the most effective filter around (at least the last time I used it ). On the plus side, I =never= had a false positive with it, but it only caught about 75 to 80% of the spam. I am using Agava now and it is much easier to get it to the point where it was filtering relatively well. It does a better overall job of catching spam, about 90+%, but I =do= get the occasional false positive. That is 'worrisome' since it makes it more likely that I will miss something ... nor can I just ignore the spam folder. I have not tried Bayes Filter. There are days I think about going back to BayesIt again to see if it has gotten any better. But I am mostly lazy and have not gotten around to it -- Best regards, MikeDmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.81.13 Beta on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
