Re: Strange error message
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 at 13:55:06 -0700,Lynn wrote: On 3/17/2012, you wrote: L The messages are: FETCH - could not store message (file L name-c:\users\lynn\temp\bat*.tmp) String looks like hex, 4 L characters. ...snip... It seems to be deleting it after the fact. I'm not sure whether it will help you, but I experience the same problem although under different circumstances. I run Mozy as an online backup system, and when it is running, it seems to lock my message files (although it is not supposed to). If I download email while the backup is running, I get a similar message about not being able to store message, with the same sort of file name. These files also disappear so that I am unable to do something constructive like manually import them at a later time. Perhaps something is preventing access to the message files of this particular account? -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.2.44.2 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Popfile v1.1.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange error message
On 3/24/2012, you wrote: I'm not sure whether it will help you, but I experience the same problem although under different circumstances. I run Mozy as an online backup system, and when it is running, it seems to lock my message files (although it is not supposed to). If I download email while the backup is running, I get a similar message about not being able to store message, with the same sort of file name. These files also disappear so that I am unable to do something constructive like manually import them at a later time. Perhaps something is preventing access to the message files of this particular account? Well, you are the first who has seen anything like this, so it is encouraging from that point of view. I can't imagine what it might be here, though - particularly since only ONE account is being affected. The others are fine. But ... I will poke around. That sounds like it *might* be a clue! Many thanks for the input! Best - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * OpenSuse 12.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange error message
Hello Lynn, L The messages are: FETCH - could not store message (file L name-c:\users\lynn\temp\bat*.tmp) String looks like hex, 4 L characters. So .. no one has any idea at all why this is happening? No, sorry. On Windows I'd continue looking on what files TheBat is trying to write, but I have no idea how to do that with Linux. (As usual, with Windows, you get service. With Linux, you're on your own. veg) -- Mit freundlichem Gruß Alto Speckhardt mailto:a...@treadstone79.de pgp7RqTD9DK7t.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange error message
On 3/23/2012, you wrote: L The messages are: FETCH - could not store message (file L name-c:\users\lynn\temp\bat*.tmp) String looks like hex, 4 L characters. So .. no one has any idea at all why this is happening? No, sorry. On Windows I'd continue looking on what files TheBat is trying to write, but I have no idea how to do that with Linux. (As usual, with Windows, you get service. With Linux, you're on your own. veg) Yeah, I know - except it is a TB! message, internally generated, not a Linux or Wine message. So .. I really had hoped someone would recognize it :-/ The frustrating thing (apart from the other accounts working perfectly), is that these bat*.tmp files seem to be deleted immediately after the failed fetch .. so apparently the evidence is being destroyed! That is, the directory is empty ... clearly it has a nice, reliable cleanup routine going here :-) Best - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * OpenSuse 12.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange error message
Hi Lynn, On 3/23/2012, you wrote: L The messages are: FETCH - could not store message (file L name-c:\users\lynn\temp\bat*.tmp) String looks like hex, 4 L characters. The frustrating thing (apart from the other accounts working perfectly), is that these bat*.tmp files seem to be deleted immediately after the failed fetch .. I guess they aren't created in the first place. You could try if ProcessMonitor works on Wine. Then you could monitor The Bat! and check which files it attemps to write and if there are any error messages. As the other accounts work and these are POP3 as well check for any differences in the account settings. Mainly the Options where the home directory is set might be of interest. -- Regards Raymund Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange error message
On 3/23/2012, you wrote: I guess they aren't created in the first place. You could try if ProcessMonitor works on Wine. Then you could monitor The Bat! and check which files it attemps to write and if there are any error messages. I'll see what I can find. As the other accounts work and these are POP3 as well check for any differences in the account settings. Mainly the Options where the home directory is set might be of interest. All at default ... the only real differences (apart from transport) are in the security - this account has less. But ... I'll look them over again, and check the processmonitor. There has to be SOMETHING. Thanks for the input - Best - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * OpenSuse 12.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange error message
On 3/22/2012, you wrote: L The messages are: FETCH - could not store message (file L name-c:\users\lynn\temp\bat*.tmp) String looks like hex, 4 L characters. So .. no one has any idea at all why this is happening? [snip] Unless the fact that the POP server is defined as an ip would be causing a problem? This is not it, fwtw. There is an exceptions log, if that would be of use? Does anyone have an idea where I can go or who I can ask? The message is being generated in TB!, surely someone knows something? tia - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * OpenSuse 12.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange error message
On 3/22/2012, you wrote: L The messages are: FETCH - could not store message (file L name-c:\users\lynn\temp\bat*.tmp) String looks like hex, 4 L characters. So .. no one has any idea at all why this is happening? [snip] Unless the fact that the POP server is defined as an ip would be causing a problem? This is not it, fwtw. There is an exceptions log, if that would be of use? Does anyone have an idea where I can go or who I can ask? The message is being generated in TB!, surely someone knows something? tia - What are the permissions on that folder? -- Rick No matter how much you strive to acquire any worldly gains, they are bound to go; so also your concepts and various identities. Even if you follow any religion in the hope of obtaining something permanent from the outside, you will be sorely disappointed. The main purpose of true spirituality is to liberate oneself completely from one's concepts and conditionings. Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj v5.0.36.3 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange error message
On 3/22/2012, you wrote: On 3/22/2012, you wrote: L The messages are: FETCH - could not store message (file L name-c:\users\lynn\temp\bat*.tmp) String looks like hex, 4 L characters. [snip begging] tia - What are the permissions on that folder? The same as the others - default. If you mean the account folders ..? Thanks - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * OpenSuse 12.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange error message
On 3/22/2012, you wrote: On 3/22/2012, you wrote: L The messages are: FETCH - could not store message (file L name-c:\users\lynn\temp\bat*.tmp) String looks like hex, 4 L characters. [snip begging] tia - What are the permissions on that folder? The same as the others - default. If you mean the account folders ..? Thanks - c:\users\lynn\temp\ is that set so the program to write to it. This is just a thought - I am NO expert. CHMOD it to 755 (or better to test) and see if it can write to that folder -- Rick (The world is) a hallucinogenic, ever-shifting kaleidoscope made of awe and light and manufactured time. There is no battle. There is no good versus evil. There is only the flux and the pulse of existence, creation, expansion and contraction in an endless dance, signifying nothing, inventing everything. Mark Morford v5.0.36.3 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange error message
On 3/22/2012, you wrote: On 3/22/2012, you wrote: On 3/22/2012, you wrote: L The messages are: FETCH - could not store message (file L name-c:\users\lynn\temp\bat*.tmp) String looks like hex, 4 L characters. [snip begging] tia - What are the permissions on that folder? The same as the others - default. If you mean the account folders ..? Thanks - c:\users\lynn\temp\ is that set so the program to write to it. I don't know about the program, but *I* have all permissions. And the other accounts are working fine. In fact, I was messing around with Wine, trying to get something else to run, and when I reopened TB!, it was showing new messages in bold. I knew it should be doing something to show new messages, but I couldn't remember what. Unfortunately I have no clue what I did :-/ This is just a thought - I am NO expert. Any thoughts are welcome. Seriously, I'm totally stumped. CHMOD it to 755 (or better to test) ??? You are WAY ahead of me here. I looked at the man page, but ... Just do chmod 777 in that directory? Again, thanks .. -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * OpenSuse 12.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange error message
??? You are WAY ahead of me here. I looked at the man page, but ... Just do chmod 777 in that directory? I would TRY that. I may be way off base and if it still won't write after doing that it is something else for sure (Just remember the old settings so you can go back to where you were) -- Rick People are like stained glass windows: They sparkle and shine when the sun is out, But when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there is a light shining from within. v5.0.36.3 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange error message
On 3/22/2012, you wrote: ??? You are WAY ahead of me here. I looked at the man page, but ... Just do chmod 777 in that directory? I would TRY that. I may be way off base and if it still won't write after doing that it is something else for sure (Just remember the old settings so you can go back to where you were) Right. Will give it a shot. Desperate times call for desperate measures ;-) Thanks - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * OpenSuse 12.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange error message
Hi, L The messages are: FETCH - could not store message (file L name-c:\users\lynn\temp\bat*.tmp) String looks like hex, 4 L characters. Is TheBat perhaps writing a cache file named bat!.tmp, which contains a non-low-ASCII character, which fails on Wine? What file system are you using in Wine? L Oh ... I'd like to know whether TB! is a 32 bit or 64 bit L app - I looked on the site, but couldn't find it. tia. It's 32 bit. -- MfG, Altomailto:a...@treadstone79.de pgpJvX5phtZDs.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange error message
On Saturday, March 17, 2012, at 3:13:48 AM, Lynn wrote: I fully expected to have to give up TheBat! after all these years of dependency, but I was thrilled to find it loaded perfectly in Wine (v1.3.30, if anyone is interested). I too have switched my systems from Windows to Linux (using Xubuntu 10.04.4) and am still using TB! but not via Wine, which I've never installed. Instead, I installed Oracle's VirtualBox program, created virtual machines, loaded my Windows into the VMs, and run TB in that virtual machine. Given adequate RAM (I'm running 2 GB) and CPU (hyperthreaded Pentium 4 here) performance of TB! is equal to what it was under native WinXP, and there's no problem of compatibility at all. Setting up the virtual machine took a little time, particularly in the area of making sure the internet connections worked properly, but once established, it runs error-free. An additional advantage is that I can access TB! from any machine on my LAN, via the RDP server built into VirtualBox. In fact I'm posting this reply from another box using that capability. -- Jim Kyle Using The Bat! v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 on VirtualBox 3.2.12 under Xubuntu 10.04.4 with AntiSpamSniper Version 3.2.4.5 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange error message
On 3/17/2012, you wrote: L The messages are: FETCH - could not store message (file L name-c:\users\lynn\temp\bat*.tmp) String looks like hex, 4 L characters. Is TheBat perhaps writing a cache file named bat!.tmp, which contains a non-low-ASCII character, which fails on Wine? That could be, but I have no idea how to find out. There is no such file that I can find in any directory under TheBat!, or under Wine that has a .tmp extension. It seems to be deleting it after the fact. But what I really don't understand is why this is happening in *this* account, but not in the others. They are all defined as POP. The others have more security on them, but that's the only difference I can see. Unless the fact that the POP server is defined as an ip would be causing a problem? There is an exceptions log, if that would be of use? What file system are you using in Wine? I don't know how to find that out, either. I have left the Wine configuration strictly alone, because I don't understand any of it's controls. The only thing I changed on it was to stipulate Win7 as the OS. On looking again, I can't find anything in the config that stipulates a file system. L Oh ... I'd like to know whether TB! is a 32 bit or 64 bit L app - I looked on the site, but couldn't find it. tia. It's 32 bit. Thanks. And thanks for asking questions I can't answer, but can seek answers for :-) Eventually I'll learn this stuff. I learned DOS with a much more limited background :-) Best - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * OpenSuse 12.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange error message
On 3/17/2012, you wrote: I too have switched my systems from Windows to Linux (using Xubuntu 10.04.4) and am still using TB! but not via Wine, which I've never installed. Instead, I installed Oracle's VirtualBox program, created virtual machines, loaded my Windows into the VMs, and run TB in that virtual machine. Given adequate RAM (I'm running 2 GB) and CPU (hyperthreaded Pentium 4 here) performance of TB! is equal to what it was under native WinXP, and there's no problem of compatibility at all. Setting up the virtual machine took a little time, particularly in the area of making sure the internet connections worked properly, but once established, it runs error-free. That sounds VERY attractive, but at this stage of the game I don't have the first clue how to begin. I expect I do have the resources; I'm running on a Dell Inspiron laptop with a 2Gz dual core Pentium CPU and 4G of RAM. An additional advantage is that I can access TB! from any machine on my LAN, via the RDP server built into VirtualBox. In fact I'm posting this reply from another box using that capability. I don't actually need that capability, but I can see how it might be useful to some. And maybe it would run some apps I'd like to keep which (according to the Wine community) do NOT run in Wine. I really need to be able to run Corel, too; Inkscape does a lot, but not everything I need. Where Linux is concerned, I am truly 'only an egg'. I will eventually get up to speed, but I don't suppose it will happen overnight. Thank you for offering another option, though. I am happy to run with native applications if they can use my data, but there are some things that just don't seem to be available, so it will be necessary to keep some Win apps. I'll keep this, and I may come back to you. Best - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * OpenSuse 12.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange error message
I'd try running a 'registry cleaner' program for invalid entries. There are several around, one in particular is AATools http://www.glocksoft.com/download.htm -- Best regards, DB Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange Error Message on Sending?
Hello Marck and Nick, why is this in the OT list? On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:22:29 +GMT (22/02/2001, 18:22 +0800GMT), Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: MDP On 22 February 2001 at 02:15:36 -0800 (which was 10:15 where I live) MDP Nick Andriash wrote and made these points: NA I am trying to help an individual out with her first installation of NA TB!. She has it installed but is getting these error messages after she NA sends a message. MDP snip Exception EaccessViolation in module THEBAT.EXE at 0016F742. Access violation at address 00570986. Read of address . MDP Two other users have reported AV errors after a send/receive MDP operation. It seems we have identified a bug but it must be very MDP configuration dependent. MDP I don't get this error using a connection to a local server on the LAN MDP and no dial-up. Could it be the dial-up? You don't say what version MDP your friend is using. I use dial-up at home and did not have an AV error. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.49f under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 with a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Strange error message when sending
Hello Gerd Ewald, Responding to your article on Saturday, August 12, 2000 at 15:53:11 GMT +0200 (which was 12/08/2000 20:53 GMT +0700 my Local Time) : CB One odd note, when I sent my e-mail to TBUDL I didn't get that CB message. [the only time I didn't] I knew there was something "magical" CB about this list! G GE I know what you mean: the last few days I receive replies before the GE original msg is transmitted ! Sometimes I have to wait two days for GE the original message. GE Is it only me having that problem or is it a ML-server problem ? This server having Relay Host (secondary SMTP Out), if in the first 4 hour the server can't connect to your SMTP Host, it will goes to Relay Host. -- Best regards, - Syafril - Name : Syafril Hermansyah |Company: Duta Integrasi Pratama Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Voice : (62) (21) 385-1600 FAXto : (62)(21)351-9241 key:000FAX |URL: http://www.dutaint.co.id Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Created : Monday, August 14, 2000, 13:05:29 GMT +0700 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Strange error message when sending
Hello Christine, Friday, August 11, 2000, 6:46:35 PM, you wrote: CB "Exception EInvalidOperation in module THEBAT.EXE at 0005AD5B. Control CB 'eMsg' has no parent window." CB After I click "OK" in the message box, the program closes out. When I CB re-open it, I find that the e-mail has been sent. Everything seems CB normal, no problems all. But, as soon as I write and send an e-mail CB that message pops up again. Is that immediate send or delayed send? Was TB! minimized to the system tray while writing the e-mail. This may fool Delphi 2 into thinking the parent window (although that is a more MDI issue) does not exist. I think this is one for Stefan. In the short term it might be worth using the beta version. Some people won't agree with me but I often find that the betas are more stable than the release. I know that sounds wrong but I've beta tested enough software to know if the stability has increased. -- From Jamie Dainton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Friday, August 11, 2000 8:50:17 PM Using The Bat! 1.45 Beta/11 Windows 98 4.10 The Bat -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Strange error message when sending
On Sat, 12 Aug 2000 15:53:11 +0200, Gerd Ewald wrote: GE I know what you mean: the last few days I receive replies before the GE original msg is transmitted ! Sometimes I have to wait two days for GE the original message. GE Is it only me having that problem or is it a ML-server problem ? Having no such problems here. -- -=A. Curtis Martin=-Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA Using TB! v1.46 Beta/3 «» Win2k Pro SP1 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "An error? Impossible! My modem is error correcting. " -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
