Re: Wishlist for filtering
Hello Gerard, On Wed, 22 May 2002 22:38:19 +0200GMT (22-5-02, 22:38 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: G As for BCC's not showing up in the kludges, have a look, it's there. Depends on on your ISP, the servers the message passes, etc. I've got accounts at four ISP's and only one of them inserts a routing header for the recipient. Depending on the passed servers the mail from the other ISP's might include the intended recipient (my address) or they might not. That's what I meant. You can't be sure of it. Not all servers place the intended recipient in the received header. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Wishlist for filtering
Replying to your message of Wednesday, May 22, 2002, 1:24:02 PM: I have another thought for filtering. Maybe this can be covered but I haven't found how. Why isn't there and option to create a rule when your name is in the CC box? All I find is when you are the recipient -- Pete Wednesday, May 22, 2002 1:34:47 PM This e-mail is brought to you by: The Bat: Version 1.60m Windows 2000 build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Wishlist for filtering
ON Wednesday, May 22, 2002, 9:38:48 PM, you wrote: DE how about [CC: David Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED]] in the kludge. Hi David, I don't think you need to be a regex expert but it needs some adjustment. CC: your name will not catch it if you are the second or third cc'ed person. So I think it would work better if you did: Your name - recipient - NO Your name - kludes- Yes I wonder if this would catch BCC's. Hope this helps -- Best regards, Gerard Insert Cookie Here-- There are three kinds of death in this world. There's heart death, there's brain death, and there's being off the network. -- Guy Almes Using The Bat! v1.60i on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Wishlist for filtering
Hello Pete, On Wed, 22 May 2002 13:35:48 -0600GMT (22-5-02, 21:35 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: PM I have another thought for filtering. Maybe this can be covered but I PM haven't found how. Why isn't there and option to create a rule when your PM name is in the CC box? All I find is when you are the recipient Check for this in the kludges: \ncc:.*[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enable the regular expression option at the options tab. (I did it, I posted a regexp filter and really expect it to work. g) -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Wishlist for filtering
Hello Gerard, On Wed, 22 May 2002 21:53:46 +0200 GMT (23/05/02, 02:53 +0700 GMT), Gerard wrote: G Your name - recipient - NO G Your name - kludes- Yes G I wonder if this would catch BCC's. It should, if you use the email address instead of the name. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. If flying is so safe, why do they call the airport the 'terminal'? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60k under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Wishlist for filtering
Hello Gerard, On Wed, 22 May 2002 21:53:46 +0200GMT (22-5-02, 21:53 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: G Your name - recipient - NO G Your name - kludes- Yes G I wonder if this would catch BCC's. This would catch neither bcc's nor cc's, since cc's are counted as recipients and bcc's aren't found in the receiving kludges, that's the whole part of them being blind. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Wishlist for filtering
Hello Roelof, On Wed, 22 May 2002 22:13:32 +0200 GMT (23/05/02, 03:13 +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: RO bcc's aren't found in the receiving kludges, that's the whole part RO of them being blind. Hmm. How do they find you then? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. POLICE STATION TOILET STOLEN Cops have nothing to go on. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60k under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Wishlist for filtering
ON Wednesday, May 22, 2002, 10:13:32 PM, you wrote: RO Hello Gerard, RO On Wed, 22 May 2002 21:53:46 +0200GMT (22-5-02, 21:53 +0200GMT, where RO I live), you wrote: G Your name - recipient - NO G Your name - kludes- Yes G I wonder if this would catch BCC's. RO This would catch neither bcc's nor cc's, since cc's are counted as RO recipients and bcc's aren't found in the receiving kludges, that's the RO whole part of them being blind. Hi Roelof, I have tried it and yes your right if your email address is in the cc's it is caught by the recipient selection in the filter. Maybe this isn't a bug but at least I would call it a bad implementation. As for BCC's not showing up in the kludges, have a look, it's there. Sometimes even more then once but not in a nice need box like to: or from: -- Best regards, Gerard Insert Cookie Here-- This document describes the usage and input syntax of the Unix Vax-11 assembler As. As is designed for assembling code produced by the C compiler; certain concessions have been made to handle code written directly by people, but in general little sympathy has been extended. -- Berkeley Vax/Unix Assembler Reference Manual (1983) Using The Bat! v1.60i on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Wishlist for filtering
ON Wednesday, May 22, 2002, 10:08:02 PM, you wrote: TF Hello Gerard, TF On Wed, 22 May 2002 21:53:46 +0200 GMT (23/05/02, 02:53 +0700 GMT), TF Gerard wrote: G Your name - recipient - NO G Your name - kludes- Yes G I wonder if this would catch BCC's. TF It should, if you use the email address instead of the name. Hi Thomas, Yes that's what I meant with your name. -- Best regards, Gerard Insert Cookie Here-- The best way to accelerate a Macintosh is at 9.8 m/sec/sec. -- Marcus Dolengo Using The Bat! v1.60i on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Wishlist for filtering
Hello Thomas, On Thu, 23 May 2002 03:21:14 +0700GMT (22-5-02, 22:21 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: RO bcc's aren't found in the receiving kludges, that's the whole part RO of them being blind. TF Hmm. How do they find you then? They're in the smtp-envelope, but that's not something that every ISP includes in the message when storing it as POP3 (though some do) BTW I didn't receive you bcc. g,dr -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Wishlist for filtering
ON Wednesday, May 22, 2002, 10:52:49 PM, you wrote: JA Why do you say that? Are the people in the CC also not recipients of JA the email? It depend on your interpretation. The CC's receive the mail but it is not directed at them specificly. I would like a CC option next to recipient in the filters because it's a separate header. JA As for the BCC not matching, it shouldn't. The JA servers/mail client don't add a recipient tag (like To/CC), but it has JA a Received: For bcc'd address line in the headers. That's what I expected. 1 out of 2 right. -- Best regards, Gerard Insert Cookie Here-- Ho! Ha! Guard! Turn! Parry! Dodge! Spin! Ha! Thrust! --Daffy Duck Using The Bat! v1.60i on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Wishlist for filtering
Hello Pete, On Wed, 22 May 2002 13:46:56 -0600GMT (22-5-02, 21:46 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: DE how about [CC: David Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED]] in the kludge. PM So you mean to tell me if I create a rule that if I am in the CC:, I PM can have it trashed immediately? Or saved for your grandchildren. ;-) The above filter only works when you're the only cc-recipient. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Wishlist for filtering
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hail Pete On 22 May 2002 at 13:35:48 -0600 (which was 20:35 where I live) Pete Milne wrote and made these points I have another thought for filtering. Maybe this can be covered but I haven't found how. Why isn't there and option to create a rule when your name is in the CC box? All I find is when you are the recipient how about [CC: David Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED]] in the kludge. (Regexp expert could improve it) - -- TTFN, ___ David | SecureBat!1.60l | E-mailaholics | _| Win 2K Server 5.0.2195 SP2 | International | | Death, be not proud.| ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (MingW32) iD8DBQE86/PK+Yrx5mUPRTQRAsBmAKCkyfbE6r9+2HxYmsvxJe8rTSp33QCg8u8v LrT8HPRbGWM5HuI1UBZwt98= =t5a+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Wishlist for filtering
Hello Pete, On Wed, 22 May 2002 14:27:36 -0600GMT (22-5-02, 22:27 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: RO The above filter only works when you're the only cc-recipient. PM I am glad of that because you lost me on your first suggestion! Let's rephrase it. The filter that was quoted in my message works only when you're the only recipient. The regexp that posted should work always when you're cc'd. What didn't you understand on it? It's a string that can placed only in one place, location kludges, presence yes and at the options tab enable 'regular expressions' PM FYI, I am only 1 month into The Bat! ;o) That why I said what condition to use. Had you been an experienced user. I'd just said: 'use regexp' eg -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Wishlist for filtering
On Wednesday, May 22, 2002, Gerard wrote... I have tried it and yes your right if your email address is in the cc's it is caught by the recipient selection in the filter. Maybe this isn't a bug but at least I would call it a bad implementation. Why do you say that? Are the people in the CC also not recipients of the email? As for the BCC not matching, it shouldn't. The servers/mail client don't add a recipient tag (like To/CC), but it has a Received: For bcc'd address line in the headers. As for BCC's not showing up in the kludges, have a look, it's there. Sometimes even more then once but not in a nice need box like to: or from: -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Wishlist for filtering
On Wednesday, May 22, 2002, Gerard wrote... ON Wednesday, May 22, 2002, 10:52:49 PM, you wrote: JA Why do you say that? Are the people in the CC also not recipients JA of the email? It depend on your interpretation. The CC's receive the mail but it is not directed at them specificly. I would like a CC option next to recipient in the filters because it's a separate header. I see what you mean... have an independent rule for To: and CC:. I guess that might be something you can send as a suggestion. JA As for the BCC not matching, it shouldn't. The servers/mail JA client don't add a recipient tag (like To/CC), but it has a JA Received: For bcc'd address line in the headers. That's what I expected. 1 out of 2 right. Good... hehe... that's what you get ;) Unless the mail client is messed up. I've seen some mails come with a BCC: field ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Wishlist for filtering
Hello Thomas, On Thu, 23 May 2002 03:21:14 +0700 GMT (23/05/02, 03:21 +0700 GMT), Thomas F wrote: RO bcc's aren't found in the receiving kludges, that's the whole part RO of them being blind. TF Hmm. How do they find you then? Ups. It depends on the ISP. At GMX, I always get a header Delivered-To. Here at Myrealbox my email address is not in the message BCC'ed to me (I Bcc'ed my posting to Roloef and myself). -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. One-celled organisms out score him in IQ tests. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60k under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
