Re[2]: Editing Received Messages
U So forward it to yourself and change the subject line. But that would alter the correct sender ID and time stamp. -- Beautiful Butterfly Displays http://FramedButterflyArt.com Random tagline: A liberal is a person whose interests aren't at stake at the moment. - Willis Player Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Editing Received Messages
EC In fact there where numerous discussions on this topic. TF True, but [un]resolved. UNRESOLVABLE. This topic is similar in tone to a religious war for some reason! Those who insist that the integrity of an email should be unassailable seem wholly unable to compromise. Nobody else cares, and those who want to be able to do this feel vilified! EC Personally I also think an eMail should not be altered. I'd ask why but we're getting too OT (the topic was: How do I...?) I'll simply say that I think email SHOULD be fully alterable if you want to for any reason whatsoever. It is after all YOUR email in YOUR database. I often fix emails that I've received to ensure better data in my message database. Mostly it is a subject line edit, sometimes it is to correct the message contents. For example, I'll correct an email when someone might send me their contact info but omit or typo something. I also edit EVERY message from PayPal to remove the footer and to clean up the message so that it prints one order to (only) one page. Lastly, since to me it is preferable to keep the time stamp and sender's email address intact, emailing messages back to myself is not an option. Rich -- Beautiful Butterfly Displays http://FramedButterflyArt.com Random tagline: I like work: it fascinates me. I can sit and look at it for hours. - Jerome K. Jerome Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Melissa, Wednesday, November 27, 2002, 8:02:00 PM, you wrote: MR -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- MR Hash: RIPEMD160 MR On Wednesday, November 27, 2002, at 6:26:09 AM PST, Nick Dutton wrote: Is there any way that I can edit a received message? I use many of my TB folders for reference and would like to be able to modify some of the messages for clarity etc. MR What I then do is this: MR 1) I place a ! at the beginning of each memo, then... Melissa, nice bit of lateral thinking! Many thanks. -- Nick Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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At 03:47 17/11/2000, Thomas Fernandez wrote: I would also like to see what Doug says about this. He has been awfully quiet - but, then, I don't know his time zone or work schedule. GMT. I know Doug from another mailing list and he's not the sort of person to join a list merely to promote a competing product. My impression was that he really would like to use The Bat! were it not for a feature that his current mailer handles in a more straightforward way. Some might consider it a minor feature (or even an unwanted feature) but everyone's requirements vary. Mike -- Mike Zanker | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Northampton | United Kingdom| PGP Public Key available -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
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Hello! ACM Perfectly. :=) I work with a 1600x1200 resolution and still complain. Poser! ;-] beste Gruesse, (best regards) Thomas D. Frueh -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Manfred, On Friday, November 17, 2000 @ 18:15:07 +, you wrote the following about "Editing received messages" Manfred [...] I must say, you've put it all pretty well in Manfred a nutshell. I agree 100% with everything you have Manfred said. [...] nutshell? I'd say soccer ball but it was all interesting. - -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP ID: 0x4C9CDF9D And TB! 1.47 Halloween Edition -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOhV7V5ccVS5MnN+dEQJyiQCgp/sgyz3cNYyzHvWuIwsCbYFbOPEAoIzL FpfGOmWc9lR+Prl3w0S5jb45 =8D3R -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Kari, On Friday, November 17, 2000 @ 20:11:06 +0100, you wrote the following about "Editing received messages" Kari A . Curtis Martin wrote on Freitag, 17. November 2000 12:27:15 h Kari about "Editing received messages": Kari Hello A, ACM On Fri, 17 Nov 2000 10:06:54 +, Manfred Ell thoughtfully wrote ACM the following: ME The only problem I see here is for a memo to get automatically displayed if ME there is a memo for a message and to hide itself if there isn't. ACM You know that there is a column provided for displaying memos using the ACM message listing, right? Kari To be honest, no, I don't know. I just managed to open that little Kari Memo Box, but a single column would be much better. How do I do this? Right click on the icon bar just above your msg list, in the available list select "memo" move it over to the selected lista column will be created that contains the memo. - -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP ID: 0x4C9CDF9D And TB! 1.47 Halloween Edition -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOhWJoZccVS5MnN+dEQK4ZACgrFpYpLqb477krlBRlHV5dOL0yFAAoPmK klHX6vQLyNg/aa3mUv5JGWf9 =U26C -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
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Friday, November 17, 2000, 12:45:15 PM, Ming-Li wrote: ML On Thursday, November 16, 2000, 2:19:16 PM, Marck wrote: There are good reasons that an email client doesn't allow you to change incoming mails easily. For instance, it is this kind of trivialisation that cheapens email as a legitimate record of a communication. I know now that any forwarded message from a Calypso user is as unrepresentative as those I already distrust from Becky users. Thanks for the heads up :-). ML Several of you have expressed the same thought. I don't agree. I DO agree - it should be perfectly clear when a message has been edited, regardless of what the reason for the editing was. ML If I forward a message to you and claim it to be exactly the same as ML the original, you'll just have to take my word for it, regardless ML whether I send it from TB or any other emailer. If you trust me, you ML trust me; if you don't, you don't. Changes to the content of email ML can be done, no matter what programs one uses. Sure, it's always possible to change the content of e-mail. It's also possible to falsify all sorts of info in the headers. That doesn't necessarily make it a GOOD thing to do, however. But if someone has forwarded/redirected something to me, I KNOW that it could possibly have been edited, regardless of what the sender may say/imply. ML What if I receive a message full of jokes and I only want to keep ML one of them? What if I want to change the subject and put the ML original subject in the memo? (I don't have 1600*1200, Allie, :) and ML can't afford to show memo in the message list pane.) What if I want ML to break a thread that doesn't belong together (despite moderators' ML repeated warning, it still happens a lot, doesn't it)? Here's another option: redirect the message to yourself. This lets you edit the original message /or subject, keeps the original sender reply-to intact, and keeps the Message-ID intact. No, sorry, it SHOULD keep the original Message-ID intact (necessary for newsgroup-moderation, for one thing, which is why I know that Eudora also has a broken "redirect"/"bounce" but Forte Agent's works properly), however The Bat! apparently does not keep it intact as I just tested it out and it changed the Message-ID :( . However, because redirecting adds the X-Sender header, it is clear that it the message has passed through someone else's hands and may have been edited. I don't have "Use local delivery" set up on my system, but I would guess that probably using that would let you "send" the message without it actually having to go out to the net and come back again?? And you could set up a filter on incoming mail (using the X-Sender and your e-mail address in the kludges) to automatically redirect the message to your "archiving" folder and mark it as read if you so desired. I don't know, however, what this would do to the X-References header, bearing in mind that The Bat! does not correctly preserve the Message-ID, however it SHOULD keep the X-References header intact so that if you thread by references, it would not break the thread (though editing the subject would obviously break the thread if you thread by Subject). -- Best regards, Dianamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Editing received messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Manfred, On Thursday, November 16, 2000 @ 00:01:29 +, you wrote the following about "Editing received messages" Manfred [...] BUT I have had the need to edit one or the Manfred other email I have received (business stuff) not to Manfred change it's contents but to add some memo stuff to Manfred the end of it, like notes from a phone Manfred conversation. (e.g. when I sent prices to a client Manfred and then change some stuff afterwards I'd like to Manfred jot this down on the original email so that I have Manfred a record of it). Perhaps there's a better way to Manfred do. And for this I have used the feature in Eudora Manfred where I come from and I miss it here too. [...] I have sort of been following this thread. Wouldn't TB!'s memo function (CTRL-SHFT-I) help you in this matter? - -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP ID: 0x4C9CDF9D And TB! 1.47 Halloween Edition -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOhR8hJccVS5MnN+dEQJxuwCeJjEaIQZOAl0bWVuDA2dpiaqAoLAAoLH0 FbHtSNdaCbvwJY1dLyTjL5Id =5iFW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
