Re: Sub Filters: can I create 'filter groups'?
Hello Roelof,
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 19:08:12 +0200 your time, you said:
RO The latter is why I love filtering on AB groups, though my groups are
RO collected in group related folders.
Thanks again for your help on this. I eventually plumped for:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
and checked 'automatically create if necessary and it is working a treat.
Folders are automatically created when someone from the address book list
group contacts me. Man alive, I've been doing the long way around up until
now. What a time saver!
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Re: Sub Filters: can I create 'filter groups'?
On Monday, September 10, 2007 at 18:00 Roelof Otten wrote: Apart from %ABFromPhone you can use any address book macro, like %ABFromE-mail, I just used the Phone entry, because I don't use that and I wouldn't like folder names with email addresses, but YMMV. I actually changed the 'Known' filter a bit to do what I want with this. Everyone I regularly communicate with is in my addressbook. I like to keep conversations with people in my AB together, so after all the filters that handle lists, newsletters and whatmore, I have the 'Known' filter at the bottom that splits out all remaining incoming mails to folders named after the full name of the person as it is registered in my AB. Because this list would get too large, I've also made it to create an intermediate level of folders based on the first letter. \\HyperCube Maurice\Bekenden\%SETPATTREGEXP((.))%REGEXPBLINDMATCH(%ABFROMNAME)%SUBPATT(1)\5C%ABFROMNAME Where 'HyperCube Maurice' is my account name, and 'Bekenden' is the mail folder under which I want these user-linked folders to be created. A similar filter exists in my outgoing filters list, which of course uses %ABTONAME to make outgoing mails to contacts in my AB also go to their personal folder. The folders are set to have a threaded so I can easily follow conversations there too, just like with mailing lists. -- Greetings, Maurice Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 The Bat! v3.99.24; ; AJS v18.59432; MyMacros 1.11a; Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Sub Filters: can I create 'filter groups'?
Hello TBUDL:
Please forgive my ignorance, but could someone please tell me if it is
possible to create 'filter groups'?
I can't find a definitive answer to this question (and I have looked) so
please forgive me if this question has been asked to death and answered
over and over:
If I create a main filter in the Sorting Office and call it 'Lists', do I
need to add any specific conditions for sub filters below it to be
processed? I noticed that there after adding a condtion to the filter you
can select 'any message, which I imagined allowed for this, but I tried
that and sub filters below the main 'Lists' filter still aren't processed
(actions for all subfolders are simply filtering to folders).
Thankyou.
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Re: Sub Filters: can I create 'filter groups'?
Hallo Simon, On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 14:28:29 +0100GMT (10-9-2007, 15:28 +0200, where I live), you wrote: IT Please forgive my ignorance, but could someone please tell me if it is IT possible to create 'filter groups'? No. IT If I create a main filter in the Sorting Office and call it 'Lists', do I IT need to add any specific conditions for sub filters below it to be IT processed? I noticed that there after adding a condtion to the filter you IT can select 'any message, which I imagined allowed for this, but I tried IT that and sub filters below the main 'Lists' filter still aren't processed IT (actions for all subfolders are simply filtering to folders). That's exactly as it's supposed to be. A filter processes the messages that match its condition and filters below that filter won't be checked anymore, subfilters will be processed though. However, when you set the option 'continue processing with other filters' for the parent filter, then the messages will be processed by the other filters too. (Until they trigger the next filter.) But I don't know what the consequences are for the messages that have been processed by the subfilters. IT -- IT Slán, Your cutsign doesn't function as it should, it's missing the trailing space. -- Groetjes, Roelof I've got all this emotional baggage and no claim check. - SLR http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.99.24 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpP64n6PDGXi.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sub Filters: can I create 'filter groups'?
Hello Roelof,
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:35:31 +0200 your time, you said:
IT Please forgive my ignorance, but could someone please tell me if it is
IT possible to create 'filter groups'?
RO No.
Hmm, great. I was hoping that wasn't going ot be the case...still.
So just to make absolutely clear, so I'm left in no doubt, this means then,
if I have 45 people belonging to a private group/list/forum whatever, and I
can only filter against their individual aliases, to be able to filter each
individual's emails (and my replies to each of them) to 'their own folders'
I _still_ have to create 90 separate filters, 45 incoming and 45 outgoing?
[...snip...]
IT --
IT Slán,
RO Your cutsign doesn't function as it should, it's missing the trailing
RO space.
Oops! New QT. Didn't check it, sorry. Fixed.
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Re: Sub Filters: can I create 'filter groups'?
Hallo Simon, On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:02:14 +0100GMT (10-9-2007, 17:02 +0200, where I live), you wrote: IT So just to make absolutely clear, so I'm left in no doubt, this means then, IT if I have 45 people belonging to a private group/list/forum whatever, and I IT can only filter against their individual aliases, to be able to filter each IT individual's emails (and my replies to each of them) to 'their own folders' IT I _still_ have to create 90 separate filters, 45 incoming and 45 outgoing? Of course not, but that wasn't what you were asking. You asked about groups of filters. Or to say it differently: You merely asked whether you could create two groups of 45 filters each. What you're asking now is whether you can filter a lot of addresses each to their own folder with a single filter and that answer is: 'Yes' Create an AB group 'filter contacts' and add those 45 people to it. It doesn't matter whether you've got them in different AB group too. Create a filter that checks whether the sender belongs to 'filter contacts' Now you've got two choices, either you want all of them moved to the same folder or you want to move each message to a folder matching your contact. The first case is rather straightforward, the second case needs a macro. I tested it with a single address (didn't want to mess up my filtering system) I added a 'phone number' to an address book entry (I used the rather random letters lcs) and the action for my filter was to move the message \\Roelof\%ABFromPhone (With roelof being the account name) I re-filtered the folder and all messages from that contact were filtered to \\Roelof\lcs Apart from %ABFromPhone you can use any address book macro, like %ABFromE-mail, I just used the Phone entry, because I don't use that and I wouldn't like folder names with email addresses, but YMMV. Of course you'll still need two filters for this to function properly, one incoming filter and one outgoing filter, note that you'd need something like %ABToPhone for the outgoing filter. And before I forget it, you'll need to check 'create if necessary' with the move to action. Also when you don't use something that you've been using in your address book (like %ABFromPhone in stead of %ABFromName) you need to enter that field for all of the contacts you want to sort this way. Confused? Me too. -- Groetjes, Roelof ERROR: 001 Windows loaded. System in danger. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.99.24 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgph38EKK3IAA.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sub Filters: can I create 'filter groups'?
Hello Roelof,
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:00:36 +0200 your time, you said:
[...snip...]
RO Create an AB group 'filter contacts' and add those 45 people to it.
[...snip...]
RO Now you've got two choices, either you want all of them moved to the
RO same folder or you want to move each message to a folder matching your
RO contact.
Yes, it was most definitely the latter option I was after.
RO The first case is rather straightforward, the second case needs a macro.
Yeah, well, I thought as much; many addresses to one folder would have been
a doddle of course.
RO I tested it with a single address [...snip...] I just used the Phone
RO entry, because I don't use that and I wouldn't like folder names with
RO email addresses, but YMMV.
Nor me. I'll give that a go though, and experiment, thankyou for you help.
RO Of course you'll still need two filters for this to function properly,
RO one incoming filter and one outgoing filter, note that you'd need
RO something like %ABToPhone for the outgoing filter.
Yes, I thought as much. IOW it's still a PITA to set up, but 'needs must' as
the expression goes!
RO And before I forget it, you'll need to check 'create if necessary' with
RO the move to action.
Okay.
RO Also when you don't use something that you've been using in your address
RO book (like %ABFromPhone in stead of %ABFromName) you need to enter that
RO field for all of the contacts you want to sort this way.
RO Confused? Me too.
Surprisingly, I'm following everything. However, after setting that lot up I
doubt whether I'll be as chirpy ;-)
Really, I suppose it boils down to cosmetics and preference at the end of
the day. I mean that organising particular contacts into a 'group' in AB and
filtering against the AB group will still mean just as much effort setting
up as creating indiviudal filters for each email address under the Sorting
Office. It's just that the filters list won't be as long if you do it the AB
way...and instinctively we like to group things.
Anyway, thanks for your help and I'll go away and playfor a while and then
decide which way I prefer :-)
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Re: Sub Filters: can I create 'filter groups'?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] @ 2007-9-10 11:42:15 AM Sub Filters: can I create 'filter groups'? mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Really, I suppose it boils down to cosmetics and preference at the end of the day. I mean that organising particular contacts into a 'group' in AB and filtering against the AB group will still mean just as much effort setting up as creating indiviudal filters for each email address under the Sorting Office. It's just that the filters list won't be as long if you do it the AB way...and instinctively we like to group things. And, if you need to change the filter later, you only have to change it in one place. -- Christopher Using The Bat! v3.99.24 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6000. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. The surest way to make a monkey of a man is to quote him. -Robert Benchley pgpSOEhvxpfDG.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sub Filters: can I create 'filter groups'?
Hallo Simon, On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:42:15 +0100GMT (10-9-2007, 18:42 +0200, where I live), you wrote: IT Really, I suppose it boils down to cosmetics and preference at the end of IT the day. I mean that organising particular contacts into a 'group' in AB and IT filtering against the AB group will still mean just as much effort setting IT up as creating indiviudal filters for each email address under the Sorting IT Office. There are two major differences. You'll only need to add them once to your AB group, whereas you'd need to create every filter twice. When your contacts change their addresses (or use multiple addresses) you can easily add them to your AB (you'd do that anyway), but you don't need to adjust your filters. The latter is why I love filtering on AB groups, though my groups are collected in group related folders. -- Groetjes, Roelof I prefer to call it: The Prime Suggestion - Kirk http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.99.24 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgphZLpOJmVGr.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sub Filters: can I create 'filter groups'?
Hello Roelof,
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 19:08:12 +0200 your time, you said:
RO When your contacts change their addresses (or use multiple addresses)
RO you can easily add them to your AB (you'd do that anyway), but you don't
RO need to adjust your filters. The latter is why I love filtering on AB
RO groups, though my groups are collected in group related folders.
Yes, indeed, after thinking about it, and reading these last replies from
you and Chrisopher, I do see that AB filtering must be the best way forward
for me. And I actually already have most of my contacts in various AB groups
already, as is my habit, so I do believe I'll be following the good advice
provided here and filtering against the AB groups in future.
Thanks for all your advice.
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