Re: Synchronizing Desktop with Notebook
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Julian, On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 15:20:01 + (10:20 AM here), Julian Beach (Lists) [JBL] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: JBL The other thing to remember to TB! synch is that it is one way each JBL time... If I understand you correctly, in order to synchronize fully I must initiate the synchronise from the notebook then when done initiate it again from the desktop. After doing the above, most of the accounts on each system have the same number of messages. The are a couple that are off by 2 or 3 messages. I wonder why that is? - -- Kevin Coates Dewitt, NY USA Using TB! v2.05 Beta/1 under Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP1 (see kludges for my pgp key) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFAXEa4vZSrVDqOXK0RAsBLAJ9RAwXyfEr8fZbMPjIK8uG6jqDkSQCeIgqW ww2OdttZcsfrD/r41CHT5lE= =usmL -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Synchronizing Desktop with Notebook
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi cs4l, On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 08:18:50 +0100 (2:18 AM here), cs4l [c] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: c You could use both machines to read email, and with synchronize, c you could then transfer the messages which have been read on one c machine to the other machine, thus keeping both mail databases in c sync. Ah, I think I understand now. So I needn't worry which machine I download mail with as long as I synchronize periodically. Thanks for the explanation. - -- Kevin Coates Dewitt, NY USA Using TB! v2.05 Beta/1 under Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP1 (see kludges for my pgp key) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFAWwaCvZSrVDqOXK0RAlSiAJwLa7qUV6fp73kBH1FkwTG6+XSRugCgnFzk jq2fNuJuTpiS4kTdc10ZpvY= =borx -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Synchronizing Desktop with Notebook
On Friday, March 19, 2004, 2:41:03 PM, Kevin Coates wrote: Ah, I think I understand now. So I needn't worry which machine I download mail with as long as I synchronize periodically. Thanks for the explanation. The other thing to remember to TB! synch is that it is one way each time, that is, when you run the first stage of the synch on the laptop it compares the laptop with the PC and then copies any messages on the PC but not the laptop onto the laptop, but will not copy messages not on the PC from the laptop. This means that you will have to run the synch twice to get a full synchronisation of both machines. The other thing to note is that the process only copies files, but does not delete, so if you have deleted a load of messages on the laptop, and then run a PC, they won't be deleted from the PC and could be copied back to the laptop. Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.04.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Synchronizing Desktop with Notebook
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello TBUDL! I've been trying to figure out the best way to keep my desktop and notebook in synch. I've tried The Bat's Synchronise feature, but its multiple steps seems tedious compared to simply using the built in backup and restore feature. Am I missing something here? What are the advantages of the Synchronise option? - -- Kevin Coates Dewitt, NY USA Using TB! v2.05 Beta/1 under Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP1 (see kludges for my pgp key) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFAWoarvZSrVDqOXK0RAjJsAKD0HwbfCBre15hrrVgujRnu3/E3VACcCX8c y1dKy24O5bDhutWUYg0ATuk= =fy+9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Synchronizing Desktop with Notebook
Hello Kevin, Friday, March 19, 2004, 6:35:35 AM, you wrote: KC -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- KC Hash: SHA1 KC Hello TBUDL! KC I've been trying to figure out the best way to keep my desktop and KC notebook in synch. I've tried The Bat's Synchronise feature, but its KC multiple steps seems tedious compared to simply using the built in KC backup and restore feature. Am I missing something here? What are the KC advantages of the Synchronise option? Yes, you're missing something. Backup will override any change you made to the target system. Whereas synchronize will bring the target system to the same state as the original system. Synchronize make a list of differences between original and target systems and then transfers the missing information. You could use both machines to read email, and with synchronize, you could then transfer the messages which have been read on one machine to the other machine, thus keeping both mail databases in sync. -- Best regards, cs4lmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
methods of synchronizing two locations
Hello tbudl, I have to locations I would like to have all my mail at. I use a pop server. Can any one tell me how that manage to do it? Only one site needs to be able to delete the mail on the server if that helps? -- Best regards, danger mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Synchronizing Address Book
Hello TBUDL, I have a Laptop which I use on a daily basis and a Desktop Pc which I use at various times in the week. I have set up my Desktop Pc to be a backup machine for my Laptop and everything. Mostly I receive emails when I am out from home and need to upload addresses from my Laptop to my Desktop Pc. I also enter email addresses directly onto my Desktop Pc. How can I synchronize the address books with each other so that I have identicle entries on both machines even though I make entries from both machines indenpendently? -- Love and Light, Granville mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Notebook Synchronizing
Hello Terry, Monday, January 26, 2004, 6:33:31 PM, you wrote: TGM Also should chose 'ignore' one the advanced tab, I might have missed TGM that. Thank you for correcting this. I actually thought that 'ignore' was the default. -- Best regards, Gerrit Kiers Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Notebook Synchronizing
Hello Gerrit, Friday, January 23, 2004, 4:55:46 AM, you wrote: Then go to the Sorting Office and make a new rule under 'Selective download'. Make the rule 'Detect by originator' with as signal string your own e-mail address. This will make your notebook neglect these mails on the server. (Call the rule 'Ignore BCC copies' or something like that). That's it on this side. Also should chose 'ignore' one the advanced tab, I might have missed that. -- Thanks, Terry Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Notebook Synchronizing
On Monday, January 26, 2004 at 5:33:31 PM, you wrote: Hello Gerrit, Friday, January 23, 2004, 4:55:46 AM, you wrote: Then go to the Sorting Office and make a new rule under 'Selective download'. Make the rule 'Detect by originator' with as signal string your own e-mail address. This will make your notebook neglect these mails on the server. (Call the rule 'Ignore BCC copies' or something like that). That's it on this side. Also should chose 'ignore' one the advanced tab, I might have missed that. Yes - I realised that too. Have now set up my whole system - only had to do it indivudally to 30 email accounts on the laptop and on the desktop but it works - such luxury. Of course if this were implemented: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0002408 ...it might have been so much easier! ;-)) Marten Gallagher -- Annery Kiln Web Design Delivering Information Effectively www.annerykiln.co.uk Web Design and Site Management Web Hosting and Print Design This e-mail is intended solely for the addressee and is strictly confidential. If you are not the addressee, please do not read, print, re-transmit, store or act in reliance on it or any attachments. Instead please e-mail it back to the sender and delete the message from your computer. The system used to send this message is permanently checking for viruses and malicious scripts. However, email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error free and annerykiln.co.uk accepts no liability for changes made to this e-mail (and any attachments) after it was sent or for viruses arising as a result of this e-mail transmission. Any unauthorised reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication of this e-mail message is strictly prohibited. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Notebook Synchronizing
Hello Kevin, Friday, January 23, 2004, 5:18:14 AM, you wrote: BBTE I choose one machine as master (my home desktop). When I BBTE retrieve mail there, I remove it from the server. When I BBTE retrieve mail using the notebook or from the office, I leave BBTE mail on the server until I dump it from the trash KC Thanks for sharing your solution. Kevin, Bill's solution does not solve instances when you send mail from the notebook. I use the following set-up to cover for that. Whenever I send an e-mail from my notebook I send a blind copy (BCC) to myself. The Bat! on my notebook knows it should leave these e-mails on the server. Then: When I reach home I start collecting my e-mail and The Bat! automatically sorts the messages that I have send during my trip to it's Sent Mail folder. Thus my home PC always contains copies of all the mail I get and send. On the notebook: Add these macros to your templates for 'New message' and 'Reply' (and if you use these also in 'Forward' and 'Reading conformation') You do this at menu: Account - Properties - Templates -begin macros--- %BCC= %BCC=%FROMNAME %FROMADDR --end macros From now you are sending automatically BCC copies to yourself. Then go to the Sorting Office and make a new rule under 'Selective download'. Make the rule 'Detect by originator' with as signal string your own e-mail address. This will make your notebook neglect these mails on the server. (Call the rule 'Ignore BCC copies' or something like that). That's it on this side. At home: Go to the Sorting Office and make a new rule under 'Incoming mail' Apply these settings in the Rule tab: Source folder = 'Inbox' Move message to folder = 'Sent mail' Filtering string = *your own e-mail address* Location = Sender Presence = Yes Then under the tab Actions click 'Mark the message as read' Now your own mail is sorted to the 'Sent Mail' folder (you won't even notice it functioning). Call it To Send mail if I send as BCC or something like that. I actually never use the Synchronise tool between my notebook and home PC. If I really need copies my e-mails on the notebook I usually copy the all the Messages.tbb and the Messages.tbi files (containing the messages) onto the notebook before I leave for a trip (and address books). Hope i could be helpful. -- Best regards, Gerrit Kiers Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Notebook Synchronizing
At 7:55 AM on 1/23/2004, Gerrit Kiers typed ... G Kevin, G Bill's solution does not solve instances when you send mail from the G notebook. I use the following set-up to cover for that. Thanks, Kevin! You not only mentioned a step that I omitted (BCCs to myself of messages that I want to store on the main computer) but you also provided a macro I can use. Two for the price of one. G Hope i could be helpful. Indeed! -- Bill Blinn Technology Editor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - 1/23/2004 at 8:02 AM Technology Editor, Newsradio 610 WTVN, Columbus, Ohio Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Random thought: I've had a perfectly wonderful evening. But this wasn't it. -- Groucho Marx If not for these words, this line would be blank. Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Notebook Synchronizing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Gerrit, On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 13:55:46 +0100 (7:55 AM here), Gerrit Kiers [GK] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: GK Bill's solution does not solve instances when you send mail from the GK notebook. I use the following set-up to cover for that. Thank you so much. I'm still in the process of installing the essentials (AV, firewall, misc utils, pgp) but will save your message and incorporate your suggestions soon. - -- Kevin Coates Dewitt, NY USA Using TB! v2.03 Beta/45 under Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP1 (see kludges for my pgp key) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFAEU3DvZSrVDqOXK0RAou3AKDBFwGXqrzyxOtNwlEUERyhvFsH8ACg/LkE wNGVkaCyz8HPU5EXMImDxiE= =TS5r -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Notebook Synchronizing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Bill, On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 08:04:48 -0500 (8:04 AM here), Bill Blinn Technology Editor [BBTE] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: BBTE Thanks, Kevin! You not only mentioned a step that I omitted BBTE (BCCs to myself of messages that I want to store on the main BBTE computer) but you also provided a macro I can use. Hehehe .. actually you can thank Gerrit but the suggestions given here are most helpful. - -- Kevin Coates Dewitt, NY USA Using TB! v2.03 Beta/45 under Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP1 (see kludges for my pgp key) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFAEU+3vZSrVDqOXK0RAkceAKDgZ4pSj5g9TZVVv3/NjqoDmg73cQCfUN1V a9iMXsCrw/21F/b+NN6MdBU= =DwYi -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Notebook Synchronizing
At 11:45 AM on 1/23/2004, Kevin Coates typed ... K Hehehe .. actually you can thank Gerrit but the suggestions given here K are most helpful. This is another clear example of why I should never attempt to communicate in the hours before noon. Or the hours after noon, for that part. Thanks for catching that! -- Bill Blinn Technology Editor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - 1/23/2004 at 12:08 PM Technology Editor, Newsradio 610 WTVN, Columbus, Ohio Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Random thought: I'll never forget you -- you're too weird. If not for these words, this line would be blank. Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Notebook Synchronizing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello TBUDL! I just purchased a laptop and would like to install The Bat! on it. I normally use my desktop machine, but would like to have the capability to read and answer my mail from either system. My ISP does not offer IMAP. Can anyone provide some strategies for synchronizing the two? - -- Kevin Coates Dewitt, NY USA Using TB! v2.03 Beta/45 under Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP1 (see kludges for my pgp key) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFAEDarvZSrVDqOXK0RAs37AJ9aSN6B6uBewQ1Wy9Um7jQZyniSOACgvwax dO+KkVl8qk/wA9jI2OOkfmQ= =0PuD -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Notebook Synchronizing
At 3:46 PM on 1/22/2004, Kevin Coates typed ... K I just purchased a laptop and would like to install The Bat! on it. I K normally use my desktop machine, but would like to have the capability K to read and answer my mail from either system. My ISP does not offer K IMAP. Can anyone provide some strategies for synchronizing the two? I choose one machine as master (my home desktop). When I retrieve mail there, I remove it from the server. When I retrieve mail using the notebook or from the office, I leave mail on the server until I dump it from the trash. This doesn't give me every message in every location, but it does give me what I want. It might work for you. -- Bill Blinn Technology Editor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - 1/22/2004 at 4:08 PM Technology Editor, Newsradio 610 WTVN, Columbus, Ohio Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Random thought: Mihi ignosce. Cum homine de cane debeo congredi. (Excuse me. I've got to see a man about a dog.) This line was left blank intentionally, but now these words are in it. Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Notebook Synchronizing
Kevin Coates [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 01/22/2004 02:46 PM wrote: I just purchased a laptop and would like to install The Bat! on it. I normally use my desktop machine, but would like to have the capability to read and answer my mail from either system. My ISP does not offer IMAP. Can anyone provide some strategies for synchronizing the two? I also have a laptop that I have been wanting to put on a home network with the pc and allow it to read and answer Bat mail. So, I would also appreciate input for strategies. FWIW, the pc has XP home and the laptop has XP pro. -- Avi Avram Sacks Chicago, ILUSA using TB ver. 1.61h (it works just fine for me, so why bother upgrading?) on Win XP (w/out SP1, which slowed me down to a crawl) Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Notebook Synchronizing
On Thursday, January 22, 2004 at 8:46:28 PM, you wrote: I just purchased a laptop and would like to install The Bat! on it. I normally use my desktop machine, but would like to have the capability to read and answer my mail from either system. My ISP does not offer IMAP. Can anyone provide some strategies for synchronizing the two? There's a system built in to do this although it's rather cumbersome. It's part of tools synchronise. Marten Gallagher -- Annery Kiln Web Design Delivering Information Effectively www.annerykiln.co.uk Web Design and Site Management Web Hosting and Print Design This e-mail is intended solely for the addressee and is strictly confidential. If you are not the addressee, please do not read, print, re-transmit, store or act in reliance on it or any attachments. Instead please e-mail it back to the sender and delete the message from your computer. The system used to send this message is permanently checking for viruses and malicious scripts. However, email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error free and annerykiln.co.uk accepts no liability for changes made to this e-mail (and any attachments) after it was sent or for viruses arising as a result of this e-mail transmission. Any unauthorised reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication of this e-mail message is strictly prohibited. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Notebook Synchronizing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Bill, On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:11:58 -0500 (4:11 PM here), Bill Blinn Technology Editor [BBTE] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: BBTE At 3:46 PM on 1/22/2004, Kevin Coates typed ... K I just purchased a laptop and would like to install The Bat! on K it. . Can anyone provide some strategies for synchronizing the K two? BBTE I choose one machine as master (my home desktop). When I BBTE retrieve mail there, I remove it from the server. When I BBTE retrieve mail using the notebook or from the office, I leave BBTE mail on the server until I dump it from the trash Thanks for sharing your solution. I will try that and also take a look at the built in synchronizing feature that Marten mentioned. - -- Kevin Coates Dewitt, NY USA Using TB! v2.03 Beta/45 under Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP1 (see kludges for my pgp key) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFAEKCLvZSrVDqOXK0RAph9AJ9gwTxFyFxaWp3gHJ4O3O8xs4F7zQCggg5a B50tGWq5WfCgxPyaQv+dgPI= =WQnE -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Synchronizing The Bat and Versamail on the Palm
Hello Ken, Monday, October 20, 2003, 11:43:42 PM, you wrote: kg Paul Smithson wrote: Is it possible to synchronize my copy of The Bat on my PC with Versamail on the Palm? Sometimes I want to be able to collect my e-mail on the Palm, deal with it, and then when I get back home update my desktop with both the send and received mail. kg I don't think there is a way to do what you are asking, but I had the kg same desire, and here is how I dealt with it: kg First off, make sure you are leaving a copy of messages on the server kg when you check your mail with your PDA. kg In VersaMail, there is an option to Bcc all outgoing messages to a kg certain account. Don't put the same address that the account is based kg on here. Logically, you should be able to Bcc yourself, but for some kg reason VersaMail doesn't like this (I've had problems). I enter a kg different e-mail account here. All mail sent from this account will kg also send a copy to the account I entered. kg In The Bat, I set up a filter to process all of the received copies of kg my 'Sent from VersaMail' messages and route them to the corresponding kg Sent Mail folder. kg This isn't perfect - and the time/date stamps are often messed up kg (VersaMail can't adjust for this), but it works. kg Hope this helps. Thanks for that Ken. I'm going to give it a go and see how I get on. It is just a shame they don't do a version of The Bat for the Palm. I'd buy it like a shot. -- Best regards, Paul Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Synchronizing The Bat and Versamail on the Palm
Hello Paul, Thursday, October 23, 2003, 4:41:45 PM, you wrote: PS Thanks for that Ken. I'm going to give it a go and see how I get PS on. PS It is just a shame they don't do a version of The Bat for the PS Palm. I'd buy it like a shot. moderator This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Paul. Please trim replies to context. Try to cut out as much of the original text as possible in your replies so that your response is targeted to specific items in the message you are replying to. You don't necessarily need four layers of quoted material to respond to the last comment made. A sure fire indicator that insufficient trimming has been done is that the original signature and list footer remain in the quoted text, and/or the PGP signature. We have list archives for the purposes of being able to go back to view the entire thread contents. Thank you. /moderator -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.01.7 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Synchronizing The Bat and Versamail on the Palm
Paul Smithson wrote: Is it possible to synchronize my copy of The Bat on my PC with Versamail on the Palm? Sometimes I want to be able to collect my e-mail on the Palm, deal with it, and then when I get back home update my desktop with both the send and received mail. I don't think there is a way to do what you are asking, but I had the same desire, and here is how I dealt with it: First off, make sure you are leaving a copy of messages on the server when you check your mail with your PDA. In VersaMail, there is an option to Bcc all outgoing messages to a certain account. Don't put the same address that the account is based on here. Logically, you should be able to Bcc yourself, but for some reason VersaMail doesn't like this (I've had problems). I enter a different e-mail account here. All mail sent from this account will also send a copy to the account I entered. In The Bat, I set up a filter to process all of the received copies of my 'Sent from VersaMail' messages and route them to the corresponding Sent Mail folder. This isn't perfect - and the time/date stamps are often messed up (VersaMail can't adjust for this), but it works. Hope this helps. -- Ken Green Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Synchronizing The Bat and Versamail on the Palm
Hello Is it possible to synchronize my copy of The Bat on my PC with Versamail on the Palm? Sometimes I want to be able to collect my e-mail on the Palm, deal with it, and then when I get back home update my desktop with both the send and received mail. Thanks Paul Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Synchronizing between notebook and desktop
On Monday, August 4, 2003, 2:18:31 AM, Steve M. Sawczyn wrote: I'm just curious, do you not synchronize the laptop with the desktop when you return from traveling -- I'm trying to understand why you would leave mail on the server. Mainly because of the problems keeping filters up to date on both installations. The result can be that messages get into different folders on both machines, and this leads to duplicates. The other reason is a very practical one - laptops are relatively easy to loose or damage, so I would rather hold messages on the server for a few days so I can be sure that I get them on my desktop PC than depend on being able to synchronize from the Laptop. The other thing to remember with Synchronisation is that it is a one-way process - it makes the Installation A the same as Installation B, by moving messages that are not on A but are on B onto A. This means that to do a full synchronisation (matching both installations) you have to run it twice, making different machines the target and destination each time, if you see what I mean! Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Synchronizing between notebook and desktop
On Saturday, August 2, 2003, 10:23:38 PM, Allie Martin wrote: Filters will synchronize, as well as templates. However, basic interface configuration will not be synchronized since both systems may run at different resolutions. As a result, interface appearance settings have a high likelihood of being different. I have not found this to be the case. Synchronize will work on the message base and address books, but does not work on account settings and filters. I use synchronize regularly to keep my laptop and desktop up to date, so that I have all my messages when I travel, and ensure that I can collect mail when away (although I now use Leave Mail on Server for 2 days so I can collect mail later on the desktop machine. Every couple of months, I restore the laptop (which uses Xray to manage SMTP connections) from a backup of the Desktop installation and re-set up the accounts. In general it works well, but I do end up with duplicates, particularly because the filters don't copy. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Synchronizing between notebook and desktop
Hello Allie, Sunday, August 3, 2003, 12:39:06 AM, you wrote: AM Sorry for the funny metaphor, but when you have young kids like I have, AM everything can potentially talk and develops a personality. Don't appologize, that clarifies things greatly. Before I leave for work, I'll have to remember to create a map file from my home machine. THen, when I'm through with my day, I make the sync file based on the map from home. I bring that, plus a map file made from work home to repeat the process the next day. Maybe I'll just do this over the weekends g. THanks again for the clarification. Steve Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Synchronizing between notebook and desktop
Hello Allie, Sunday, August 3, 2003, 12:58:43 AM, you wrote: AM Another way to do the regular synchronisation would be to backup the AM mail folder on the laptop each day and restore it to the desktop. If you AM do any major changes like creating a new account, then do the AM synchronisation. Would this capture filters, views, addressbooks, etc...? I'm not very familiar with where TB keeps those files -- I'm coming from Outlook and Outlook Express which scatter files everywhere making it nearly impossible to do what you're describing. AM If you have a remove-able drive like a Zip Disk, you could even have AM your mail folder on it and take it with you when leaving either system. AM However, you'd have to do some regular archiving to keep the Mail folder AM size down. I'd thought of this, but wouldn't it make accessing messages time-consuming? I was thinking of using those little USB drives, the ones which can fit on a keychain and hold 128 MB or so. Obviously, I'd have to keep the mail within that size, but then I could just plug the folder in either at home or at work. Also, in theory, this setup offers a degree of extra security as the mail is physically in my pocket and not on a machine somewhere. Again, as mentioned above, I'm not sure about addressbooks, filters, views, ... AM Of course, the ideal solution to your situation would be IMAP accounts. AM :) TB!'s completely revamped IMAP support is currently in beta testing AM stages so stay tuned. Definitely a good suggestion, my only concern would be the ability to filter messages via Imap? I couldn't set up filtering at work -- they're using Exchange and as far as I know, the filtering will only work via Outlook. Still, maybe, hopefully, I'm wrong? Again, thanks for all the niformation, Steve Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Synchronizing between notebook and desktop
Hello Julian, Sunday, August 3, 2003, 2:33:41 PM, you wrote: JBL I use synchronize regularly to keep my laptop and desktop up to date, JBL so that I have all my messages when I travel, and ensure that I can JBL collect mail when away (although I now use Leave Mail on Server for 2 JBL days so I can collect mail later on the desktop machine. I'm just curious, do you not synchronize the laptop with the desktop when you return from traveling -- I'm trying to understand why you would leave mail on the server. JBL Every couple JBL of months, I restore the laptop (which uses Xray to manage SMTP JBL connections) from a backup of the Desktop installation and re-set up JBL the accounts. So, the account settings aren't getting preserved in the backup -- the backup which you're restoring on the laptop? Xray sounds interesting -- I'm assuming it's an SMTP server of some sort which you're running locally. If that's the case, I should get more info on it as that's going to be my next challenge. Steve Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Synchronizing between notebook and desktop
Hello Steve, On Sun, 3 Aug 2003 21:18:31 -0400 GMT (04/08/2003, 08:18 +0700 GMT), Steve M. Sawczyn wrote: I'm just curious, do you not synchronize the laptop with the desktop when you return from traveling -- I'm trying to understand why you would leave mail on the server. I used to leave messages on server for a couple of days when I wanted to have the messages bases complete on both PCs, the one at home and the one in the office. I never ever bothered with TB's synchronisation function. JBL Every couple of months, I restore the laptop (which uses Xray to JBL manage SMTP connections) from a backup of the Desktop JBL installation and re-set up the accounts. So, the account settings aren't getting preserved in the backup -- the backup which you're restoring on the laptop? Xray sounds interesting -- I'm assuming it's an SMTP server of some sort No, X-Ray just manages SMTP servers; depending on where you are, you might need to use a different one. www.xrayapp.com X-Ray was written with TB in mind. An SMTP server that apparently works well with TB, is Hamster: searching for URL - scratching head - I know I had it - search failed. You may also want to check out The Batch: http://www.snurl.com/thebatch It is TB-to-go. No need to have 2 instances of TB, have just one on a zip drive or USB drive and carry it around with you. Don't lose that drive, though. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. If they don't want us to drink and drive, why do you have to have a driver's license to buy beer? Message reply created with The Bat! 2.0 Beta/1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Synchronizing between notebook and desktop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve M. Sawczyn, [SMS] wrote: AM Another way to do the regular synchronisation would be to backup the AM mail folder on the laptop each day and restore it to the desktop. If you AM do any major changes like creating a new account, then do the AM synchronisation. SMS Would this capture filters, Yes. SMS views, I doubt this. Views and window configuration are settings stored in the registry. If you're using TB! on separates systems you may very well not wish to synchronise that part of things anyway since optimal window size and fonts would depend on screen size and display resolution. SMS addressbooks, etc...? If your address books are in the default location, then yes. Templates, account settings, mail and address books are all stored in the mail folder by default. SMS I'm not very familiar with where TB keeps those files -- I'm coming SMS from Outlook and Outlook Express which scatter files everywhere SMS making it nearly impossible to do what you're describing. Though TB!, by default, keeps all these together, you can store your address books anywhere you like. You may also store your main mail folder or an accounts data or a particular folders mail in a specific location of your choice. SMS I'd thought of this, but wouldn't it make accessing messages SMS time-consuming? I was thinking of using those little USB drives, SMS the ones which can fit on a keychain and hold 128 MB or so. Yes. The message base access time may be slower, but it's all give and take. I once managed all my mail across my network on another machine. I moved my mail folder to the other machine soon after a hard disk failure on my working machine. I was surprised how well it worked considering. Initial opening of a folder containing more than 10,000 messages was distinctly slower but that was about it. SMS Obviously, I'd have to keep the mail within that size, but then I SMS could just plug the folder in either at home or at work. Also, in SMS theory, this setup offers a degree of extra security as the mail is SMS physically in my pocket and not on a machine somewhere. Yes SMS Again, as mentioned above, I'm not sure about addressbooks, SMS filters, views, ... View configuration would be the only thing that wouldn't be on the disk. SMS Definitely a good suggestion, my only concern would be the ability to SMS filter messages via Imap? I couldn't set up filtering at work -- SMS they're using Exchange and as far as I know, the filtering will only SMS work via Outlook. Still, maybe, hopefully, I'm wrong? Wait for v2 of TB! and see. The IMAP support will be much better then. - -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBPy2+TlfJ62ArBxfiEQLWLQCgzFvkBb/TczR/vaKiVT7+XY5culoAmgK2 aEhsmFweiTFN4w8ANLH0hOtB =X1Xc -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Synchronizing between notebook and desktop
Hi all, I posted something similar to this a few weeks back, but didn't see it on the list, so am posting again. Essentially, I'm wanting to synchronize my mail between my work notebook and my home desktop. In examining the help file, I see two possible ways to do this, but am not sure which might work best. My first thought was the obvious synchronization feature. If I'm understanding the help file correctly, I would need to create two map/data files -- not sure why I couldn't use the same file. Also, would I need to first set up accounts on the desktop -- right now, I've got everything on the notebook and nothing on the desktop. Also, will views and filters synchronize? The second option which came to mind was to simply backup TB with its backup feature and simply restore it each time. Again, not sure what the pros and cons of this might be. I am planning to use a USB thumbdrive to transfer the actual data files between the two machines. I'm planning to do this at least every other day depending on how difficult it is to actually do. As always, any help/advice greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance for any replies. - Best regards, Steve mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Synchronizing between notebook and desktop
Essentially, I'm wanting to synchronize my mail between my work notebook and my home desktop. Hi Steve, Exactly the basic problem that I was trying to solve for the past few weeks. I wnated to do significantly more thatn just mail. I have a peer to peer network between desktop and laptop. I tried sharing drives and copying relevant files back and forth [ this is after installing TB independently on each machine. I was advised to try 'Briefcase' not really the answer that I wanted as it updated the files to or from the laptop/desktop depending upon your settings but you then had extract them from the briefcase and save them to the relevant drive/folder. I have settled for buying the Pro version of Easy2Sync this allows you to set a variety of tasks to be executed automatically, scheduled or manually. You can synchronise, copy or overwrite in either direction..the programme also asks when it discovers a file on the receiver that is more up to date than on the sender. Have a look at: http://itsth.de/ for [Easy2Sync (Business-Edition)] and see if it suits. Regards - Charles - Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Synchronizing between notebook and desktop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve M. Sawczyn, [SMS] wrote: SMS I posted something similar to this a few weeks back, but didn't see SMS it on the list, so am posting again. Essentially, I'm wanting to SMS synchronize my mail between my work notebook and my home desktop. SMS In examining the help file, I see two possible ways to do this, but SMS am not sure which might work best. My first thought was the SMS obvious synchronization feature. If I'm understanding the help SMS file correctly, I would need to create two map/data files -- not SMS sure why I couldn't use the same file. In the synchronisation excercise, the first step is to create a snapshot of the target system so that it's known what's already on the target system. The next step is to create the synchronisation data file on the source system, using the snapshot file of the target system. In this way, only the data that's not on the target system will be put in the synchronisation data file. The final step is to get the target system up to date by using the synchronisation data file. SMS Also, would I need to first set up accounts on the desktop -- right SMS now, I've got everything on the notebook and nothing on the SMS desktop. Sounds like it would be better to simply backup the notebook's installation and then restore it to the desktop's installation. SMS Also, will views and filters synchronize? Filters will synchronize, as well as templates. However, basic interface configuration will not be synchronized since both systems may run at different resolutions. As a result, interface appearance settings have a high likelihood of being different. - -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBPywr3FfJ62ArBxfiEQKfwACgyLGWhzLnIgozUF1woCTEi1c7mjoAnRrj Mk7KXVv58ZLwLw5YwwgThSSr =M2Xy -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Synchronizing between notebook and desktop
Hello Allie, Saturday, August 2, 2003, 5:23:38 PM, you wrote: SMS synchronize my mail between my work notebook and my home desktop. SMS In examining the help file, I see two possible ways to do this, but SMS am not sure which might work best. My first thought was the SMS obvious synchronization feature. If I'm understanding the help SMS file correctly, I would need to create two map/data files -- not SMS sure why I couldn't use the same file. AM In the synchronisation excercise, the first step is to create a snapshot AM of the target system so that it's known what's already on the target AM system. The next step is to create the synchronisation data file on the AM source system, using the snapshot file of the target system. In this AM way, only the data that's not on the target system will be put in the AM synchronisation data file. The final step is to get the target system up AM to date by using the synchronisation data file. OK, if I'm understanding this correctly, the data files need to be generated on each machine each time the synchronization is to take place? For example, if I'm planning to synchronize daily, would I need to generate the map data files daily, or could I use the same map file over and over? SMS Also, would I need to first set up accounts on the desktop -- right SMS now, I've got everything on the notebook and nothing on the SMS desktop. AM Sounds like it would be better to simply backup the notebook's AM installation and then restore it to the desktop's installation. Are you suggesting that this might be the way to go initially and then resourt to synchronization, or back up the files each time and don't bother with synchronization? THanks again for all help, Steve Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Synchronizing between notebook and desktop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve M. Sawczyn, [SMS] wrote: SMS OK, if I'm understanding this correctly, the data files need to be SMS generated on each machine each time the synchronization is to take SMS place? Oh yes. Let me put it another way. :) Machine A: Hey B, I need everything that you have so we're up to date with each other. Machine B: Well, I need to see first what you have so that I know what to send you. I don't see the point in sending you everything. Enter the first step. Creating the snapshot of the target system. Machine A: OK. There you go. Now you can see what I have. Machine B: OK. I just sent you a file with only the stuff you don't have. Machine B generated the second file .. synchronization data file. Machine A: Thanks. I'm now updated. 3rd step completed. Sorry for the funny metaphor, but when you have young kids like I have, everything can potentially talk and develops a personality. Anyway, from that demonstration, it's clear that each step has to be repeated each time a synchronisation is to be done. SMS For example, if I'm planning to synchronize daily, would I need to SMS generate the map data files daily, or could I use the same map file SMS over and over? If you don't provide the source system with a current snapshot of the target system, then the source system will not get an accurate picture of what's *currently* on the target system. Mail would therefore get duplicated by the synchronisation process. AM Sounds like it would be better to simply backup the notebook's AM installation and then restore it to the desktop's installation. SMS Are you suggesting that this might be the way to go initially and SMS then resourt to synchronization, Yes. Since the desktop has nothing on it, you may as well just create a complete backup of the laptops installation and then restore it to the desktop. After that, do synchronisations. - -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBPyyR7lfJ62ArBxfiEQLXmwCfWYeM6kvWFhwEfX0ZzqCV2LVQdW8AoM6G V7o7ezN+namkNeGTBrThfFaZ =U+0J -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Synchronizing between notebook and desktop
Hello Steve, AM Sounds like it would be better to simply backup the notebook's AM installation and then restore it to the desktop's installation. Are you suggesting that this might be the way to go initially and then resourt to synchronization, or back up the files each time and don't bother with synchronization? Well I can't speak for Allie, but I think using TheBat's backup file on the initial installation of the other PC would be a good way to start. On the initial install of TB I believe there is a question asking about the backup file. So from where I'm sitting starting with a backup, then follow up with synchronization afterward would be the way to go. I've only tried synchronization once or twice. It worked fine. Other may have a better way, but you already have the tools within TB. -- Best regards, Greg Strong TB! v2.0 Beta/1 on Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Synchronizing between notebook and desktop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Strong, [GS] wrote: GS So from where I'm sitting starting with a backup, then follow up GS with synchronization afterward would be the way to go. I've only GS tried synchronization once or twice. It worked fine. Other may have GS a better way, but you already have the tools within TB. Another way to do the regular synchronisation would be to backup the mail folder on the laptop each day and restore it to the desktop. If you do any major changes like creating a new account, then do the synchronisation. If you have a remove-able drive like a Zip Disk, you could even have your mail folder on it and take it with you when leaving either system. However, you'd have to do some regular archiving to keep the Mail folder size down. Of course, the ideal solution to your situation would be IMAP accounts. :) TB!'s completely revamped IMAP support is currently in beta testing stages so stay tuned. - -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBPyyWhFfJ62ArBxfiEQJQLACfQUUb/SUgGUNdR0wr7UGaoLqFh5cAoKLP qs9cTord3XFJVNKG4eZ7k7LK =GH0z -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Synchronizing between notebook and desktop
Hello Allie, Of course, the ideal solution to your situation would be IMAP accounts. :) TB!'s completely revamped IMAP support is currently in beta testing stages so stay tuned. I have to learn more about IMAP. -- Best regards, Greg Strong TB! v2.0 Beta/1 on Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Synchronizing sent-mail folder
Whoops, one more question. How can one synchronize a sent-mail folder using The Bat!? This is possible using Pegasus. Thanks again, Cael Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Synchronizing
I'm trying to figure out how to synchronise my mail folders between my desktop, which is my primary computer, and my laptop, which is secondary. I am confused by the directions in TB! for synchronizing. I know there are three steps to this process. I need a little more detail. Assuming that what I want to do is bring the laptop up to date with the desktop which is always the most current, do I start with Step 1 on the desktop, then take that file to the laptop and do Step 2, then go back to the desktop for Step 3? Or do I do it in reverse? Or does it matter? Thanks in advance for making your replies as simple as possible :) Jeanny -- Jeanny House Eau Claire, WI The Bat! 1.61 on Windows XP , version 5.1, build 2600. Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Synchronizing
Hi Jeanny, What I do is the following, using my Work PC (W) and my Home PC (H): To do the initial sync, I did a backup from W and restored it on H. On a Friday at work, I do the Sync Step 1. I don't include my archives account because it rarely changes. I then create a Step 2 Sync using the Step 1 file I created at H. When at home, I do a Step 3 with the Step 2 file I created at W. On Sunday night, I use the Step 1 file from W (the one I created on Friday) to create a Step 2 file. I then create a Step 1 file, and take both those files in to work. I have found that the sync does create files as large as doing a full backup - I would have thought it would save changed items only, but I guess not. Graeme Monday, March 24, 2003, 7:11:49 AM, you wrote: I'm trying to figure out how to synchronise my mail folders between my desktop, which is my primary computer, and my laptop, which is secondary. I am confused by the directions in TB! for synchronizing. I know there are three steps to this process. I need a little more detail. Assuming that what I want to do is bring the laptop up to date with the desktop which is always the most current, do I start with Step 1 on the desktop, then take that file to the laptop and do Step 2, then go back to the desktop for Step 3? Or do I do it in reverse? Or does it matter? Thanks in advance for making your replies as simple as possible :) Jeanny -- If it can't be expressed in figures, it is not science; it is opinion. - L. Long E-mail notice for the Sanlam Investment Management Group(SIM) This e-mail, which may include one or more attachments, is strictly confidential and may contain privileged information. It is intended only for the use of the individual(s) named. If you are not the named addressee you may not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete or contain viruses or other malicious code. SIM therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message nor any loss or damage caused as a result of the recipient being infected with any virus or other malicious code. SIM does not endorse any opinions, conclusions, data or other information contained in this e-mail which is unrelated to the official business of SIM and any such messages shall be construed as having not been issued by SIM. Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Synchronizing The Bat
Hello Marck, Saturday, February 22, 2003, 1:46:34 AM, you wrote: PS I need to do it on a regular basis ... MDP Each synch must be based upon the current state of the mailbase on MDP the system to be update. With every update it receives, the state MDP changes. Furthermore, the state of the updated system may change MDP beyond that of the last know synch point before the next synch is MDP required. And the synch is bidirectional. I used to synch from MDP TB to SecureBat, use it awhile, synch back to TB (new beta), use it MDP awhile, etc. At each synch, the base synch point is moved. A full MDP synch is the only possible way. Even though you (as a reasonable MDP person) knows better, the computer does not. Thank you very much for that excellent response Marck. I really appreciate you taking the time to explain that to me and I can now see why it needs the three steps. Cheers! Paul Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Synchronizing The Bat
I recently did a sync between my MainPC and my laptop. I followed the 3 step process in The Bat's Help file and everything went fine. I need to do it on a regular basis and can't get my head around why I have to do a three stage process EVERY time. I would have thought that after the initial sync it would become a two-step process or am I just crazy? Thanks for you advice! Paul Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Synchronizing The Bat
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Paul, 21-Feb-2003, 18:03 Paul Smithson [PS] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: PS I need to do it on a regular basis and can't get my head PS around why I have to do a three stage process EVERY time. I PS would have thought that after the initial sync it would PS become a two-step process or am I just crazy? Each synch must be based upon the current state of the mailbase on the system to be update. With every update it receives, the state changes. Furthermore, the state of the updated system may change beyond that of the last know synch point before the next synch is required. And the synch is bidirectional. I used to synch from TB to SecureBat, use it awhile, synch back to TB (new beta), use it awhile, etc. At each synch, the base synch point is moved. A full synch is the only possible way. Even though you (as a reasonable person) knows better, the computer does not. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1rc1-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE+VtZ8OeQkq5KdzaARAg7eAJ4qOMFbTpH8pdO0yKF6awGSVgiWqQCgxYS2 bF8gRWf95KuVZCDiDxFx4WU= =ZbFZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
synchronizing with Outlook
Hello all, Can anyone tell me the best way to synchronize my addresses with my contacts in Outlook. I use palm pilot and since I can not synch my Palm with TheBat I have to use outlook 2000. Please let me know any pointers you may have. Alaeddin Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: synchronizing with Outlook
Hey Alaeddin, My MUA believes 'Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)' was used to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Monday, August 12, 2002 at 4:40:17 AM. AM Can anyone tell me the best way to synchronize my addresses with AM my contacts in Outlook. Sync is not easy, but you can grab your Outlook contacts and import to TB. Check the Archives. AM I use palm pilot and since I can not synch my Palm with TheBat I AM have to use outlook 2000. Please let me know any pointers you may AM have. Wait for the completion of the ptbs (Palm - The Bat! Sync) conduit. Then you can skip the Outlook part. g -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! eMail v1.61 Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) Why don't you ever see the headline Psychic Wins Lottery? Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: synchronizing with Outlook
hello Tim, Thank you for the information. Do you know when the Palm Conduit comes out? Alaeddin -Original Message- From: Tim Musson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 5:50 PM To: Alaeddin Muntasser Subject: Re: synchronizing with Outlook Hey Alaeddin, My MUA believes 'Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)' was used to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Monday, August 12, 2002 at 4:40:17 AM. AM Can anyone tell me the best way to synchronize my addresses with AM my contacts in Outlook. Sync is not easy, but you can grab your Outlook contacts and import to TB. Check the Archives. AM I use palm pilot and since I can not synch my Palm with TheBat I AM have to use outlook 2000. Please let me know any pointers you may AM have. Wait for the completion of the ptbs (Palm - The Bat! Sync) conduit. Then you can skip the Outlook part. g -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! eMail v1.61 Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) Why don't you ever see the headline Psychic Wins Lottery? Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: synchronizing with Outlook
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Alaeddin, 12-Aug-2002, 15:54 +0400 (12:54 UK time)Alaeddin Muntasser said: Thank you for the information. moderator Please trim your quotes to simply provide context for your replies. This message was a good example of over quoting. Also search the archives for top posting, a habit which is heavily discouraged on this list (and most lists) because it gives rise to over-quoting. Thank you. /moderator - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt build 09 beta 3 iQA/AwUBPVfB0DnkJKuSnc2gEQLgUQCfZziUQz+W50hEFB+Ycl4AKcoYNXAAnA1E ZL0k8vEIP40TEfE0VQ73Im+I =XWxr -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Sync AB to Palm (was Re: synchronizing with Outlook)
Hey Alaeddin, My MUA believes 'Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)' was used to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Monday, August 12, 2002 at 7:54:38 AM. AM Do you know when the Palm Conduit comes out? The above is an example of what Marck is talking about g To answer, no, we don't have an exact time, but there is a list about it. To Subscribe, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - it is low traffic at this point. May be able to post a status there in the next couple of weeks... In addition to Marck's comment about triming and top posting... ,- [People on this list are much happier if you use a Cut Mark] | This is a special sequence that starts on a new line and consists of | two dashes (minus signs) and a space followed by another new line. | | NewLinedashdashspaceNewLine | | This cut mark is recognized by many eMail programs and is used as a | cut off point for signatures. That way, when someone replies to one of | your messages, your signature (anything below the cut mark) is | removed. Likewise, when you reply to a message from someone that | includes cut mark, The Bat! will remove anything below the cut mark | from the text you quote. `- [see FAQ @ www.silverstones.com/thebat/samples.html#newmess] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! eMail v1.61 Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) Why is it considered necessary to nail down the lid of a coffin? Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Synchronizing two TB! mailboxes on different computers
Hello, I'm currently using The Bat! 1.53d at home and would like to use it at work on my laptop as well. Mostly I bring my laptop with me when I'm leaving the office, but not always. When I do, I will use the laptop to read my mails, but when I don't I will of course use my desktop at home. Now comes the tricky part. When I bring my laptop home I would like to synchronize the mailboxes from the different computers so that they look exactly the same. A mail sent from my laptop should show up in my sent folder on both computers and of course a mail sent from my stationary should show up in the sent folder of my laptop as well. If you have used Outlook on a laptop you know what I mean, when you come back to the office and plug the network cable in the local mailbox is synchronized with the server's mailboxes. Is it possible to use The Bat! this way? I suppose I can run The Bat! in server mode at my stationary and as a client on my laptop, but will I still be able to send mail from the laptop when I'm not connected to my stationary? And will the mailboxes automatically synchronize when the two Bats get in contact with each other? (I'm sorry for all my words, english isn't my native language and it's pretty annoying trying to explain what I mean in a language I don't speak or write fluent) Regards, Marcus Ohlström -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Synchronizing two TB! mailboxes on different computers
On 25 January 2002 at 11:02 am Marcus wrote: Hello, I'm currently using The Bat! 1.53d at home and would like to use it at work on my laptop as well. Mostly I bring my laptop with me when I'm leaving the office, but not always. When I do, I will use the laptop to read my mails, but when I don't I will of course use my desktop at home. Now comes the tricky part. When I bring my laptop home I would like to synchronize the mailboxes from the different computers so that they look exactly the same. A mail sent from my laptop should show up in my sent folder on both computers and of course a mail sent from my stationary should show up in the sent folder of my laptop as well. If you have used Outlook on a laptop you know what I mean, when you come back to the office and plug the network cable in the local mailbox is synchronized with the server's mailboxes. Is it possible to use The Bat! this way? I suppose I can run The Bat! in server mode at my stationary and as a client on my laptop, but will I still be able to send mail from the laptop when I'm not connected to my stationary? And will the mailboxes automatically synchronize when the two Bats get in contact with each other? (I'm sorry for all my words, english isn't my native language and it's pretty annoying trying to explain what I mean in a language I don't speak or write fluent) You explained it excellently :) Unfortunately, not many people (myself included) seem to use the client-server functionality; I would always use Workstation with TCP/IP (Options | Network Administration), so can't help directly. That said, I use two [manual] methods to synchronise between two machines: 1. Exporting and importing Unix mbox files (Tools | Export Messages); 2. more rarely Synchronisation (Tools | Synchronisation). The first, for less than about 20 or 30 messages a day, works quite well. Alastair This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs SkyScan service. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Synchronizing two TB! mailboxes on different computers
At 14:34 2002-01-25, you wrote: Unfortunately, not many people (myself included) seem to use the client-server functionality; I would always use Workstation with TCP/IP (Options | Network Administration), so can't help directly. That said, I use two [manual] methods to synchronise between two machines: 1. Exporting and importing Unix mbox files (Tools | Export Messages); 2. more rarely Synchronisation (Tools | Synchronisation). The first, for less than about 20 or 30 messages a day, works quite well. I think exporting and importing would be a little bit annoying after a while, since it involves to many actions to do on a daily basis, especially if I want to synchronize more than one folder (which I do, I would like to synchronize all folders). Even more, as I remember the export and import tools, it does not remember the status of the messages (i.e. read/unread, answered and so forth). I do not have access to The Bat! right now which means I can't try it, but I'm pretty sure it works that way. Tools-Synchronization seems more interesting. Have you used this? Does it preserve message status as described above? What happens if I have the same message on both computers, does they show up twice in each mailbox or is The Bat! smart enough to recognize identically messages? The best would be if I could synchronize both instances of my mail database with one single action, i.e. if I don't have to do anything more than pointing out the two directories containing the databases and start the operation. Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! 1.53d on W2K Pro SP2. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Synchronizing two TB! mailboxes on different computers
Marcus, On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, at 15:06:29 [GMT +0100] (which was 7:36 PM where I live) you wrote: MO he best would be if I could synchronize both instances of my mail database MO with one single action, i.e. if I don't have to do anything more than MO pointing out the two directories containing the databases and start the MO operation. I am giving below a snipped content from a mail on this subject earlier. Say you've been using the laptop for a while and wish to switch to using the desktop. You wish to update the desktops TB! installation so that the templates and mail folders will be like the laptops. You'd do the following: a) On the desktop, start the synchronisation panel and run step 1. What this does is create a snapshot of the settings and mail folder structure/content, present in the desktop installation. Copy the file generated during this process to a zip disk. b) On the laptop installation, open the synchronisation panel and select step 2. In this step the laptop installation is compared with that of the desktop using the file on the zip disk. You'll therefore be prompted for this file. It will generate another file. This one will contain all the restoration data to update the desktop installation to be like the laptop installation. You'll be asked to enter a file name of your choice for this restoration file etc. When you're finished, save this new file to a zip disk and go back to the desktop. c) On the desktop, run step 3 in the synchronisation panel. It will ask you for the restoration file that you generated on the laptop in step 2. It will now use the data in that file to update the desktop installation. You're done!! TGIF, Have a great weekend! -- Warm regards, Raj mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I started out with nothing, and I still have most of it. Replied on Friday, January 25, 2002 using TB Ver 1.54 Beta/30 on Windows NT -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Synchronizing two TB! mailboxes on different computers
First of all, thanks to everyone who has answered my question. I'm impressed by the quick response! At 15:14 2002-01-25, you wrote: It is smart enough to recognize that, but not if you move a message from one folder to another on one of the systems. It will exist on both locations on the other system after synchronisation. Does this mean that the synchronization tool is not capable of handling deleted messages? If I delete a message on one computer I would of course want it to be deleted on the other as well upon synchronization, not recreated on the first. Regards, Marcus Ohlström Running The Bat! 1.53d on a W2K Pro SP2 machine. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
