Re[2]: The Bat! and AVG Anti Virus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Ming-Li, On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:00:40 -0800 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, March 28, 2001, 3:00:40 AM (GMT+0100) (BST) my local time, Ming-Li wrote: No, they do not have to be an attachment. It can actually be the message itself and Outlook Express will recognize it as RTF and format it accordingly ML Again, I could be mistaken, but AFAIK it's just OE manages to show ML RTF attachment to you automatically, as it does with graphic ML attachments. BTW, could you tell me what email program would format ML its mail in RTF and send it as such? RTF does not have to be sent as an attatchment. It can can just be a message itself with it's encoding. - -- Jamie Dainton On Thursday, March 29, 2001 at 8:15:51 AM The Bat! 1.49 Windows 98 4.10 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=sendKey Adding manpower to a late software project makes it later. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOsLhW4P76OeRfCgzEQICugCfTG6qj5GOiYDWTrP0cNHZs5mRNrAAn1N+ ut1+vENLEmzwzIFY4alQhPOB =F8x5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: The Bat! and AVG Anti Virus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Thomas, On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:23:52 +0800 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, March 28, 2001, 5:23:52 AM (GMT+0100) (BST) my local time, Thomas wrote: s We have learned that Melissa virus has recently been s spreading again and may not be detected by any s antivirus software including Norton AntiVirus. T yawn Use PC-Cillin (www.antivirus.com) and be uneffected by about T any changed file extensions. Standard setting is "scan all files, T include boot sector". Of course you could always use the other method. If anyone sends you an attatchment mail them back before you open it. Ask them for an MD5 checksum and what the file is. If it's executable and you don't trust them a lot then it's probably best to ignore it. Complete paranoia is often the best defence against viruses. Most O and OE problems can be fixed with the spydog patch and even these programs support filtering which should allow you to consign all messages with attatchments that end in .vbs to /dev/null - -- Jamie Dainton On Thursday, March 29, 2001 at 8:17:26 AM The Bat! 1.49 Windows 98 4.10 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=sendKey Programming graphics in X is like finding sqrt(pi) using Roman numerals. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOsLiMoP76OeRfCgzEQLgbACdGMmYfwxBOl9EQ0utm7HFMrJdvGYAnjaG r+K8lYMt9INo60j43ONdJfKG =5F5W -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! and AVG Anti Virus
On Wednesday, March 28, 2001 at 08:16:27 +0100 Jamie Dainton wrote: RTF does not have to be sent as an attatchment. It can can just be a message itself with it's encoding. What got me curious is what emailer would encode its mail as rtf. Or does it happen when one sends via MAPI from Word or other word processor? What is it usually "formatted" (what's the "content type"): as a hybrid with a plain text part and a rtf part (as with most html mail), or just a rtf part (as with some html mail)? -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 | Win2k SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! and AVG Anti Virus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, at 07:25:36 [GMT -0800] you wrote: ML What got me curious is what emailer would encode its mail as rtf. Or ML does it happen when one sends via MAPI from Word or other word ML processor? Any of the Microsoft mailers have an option to send an email out using RTF. This may even be the default. Even if you change the client and traverse through an Exchange server, the Exchange admin can force every outgoing mail to be in RTF format :-( Stuart - -- I think, therefor I am... I think? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.3 Comment: 6.5.8ckt http://www.ipgpp.com/ iQA/AwUBOsNirXjB/5h2FIaGEQI5XACfQKoxXIMpDv1XsbnulIzqOwgi8dQAnReV +q6AYXYi1w39bCV19fYFtbwo =AQ6D -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
OT: RTF mailers (was:: The Bat! and AVG Anti Virus)
Hi, On Thursday, March 29, 2001, 5:25:36 PM, Ming-Li wrote: What got me curious is what emailer would encode its mail as rtf. Let me state for the record that Mail.app under NEXTSTEP used RTF for formatting mail. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 5 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! and AVG Anti Virus
On Thursday, March 29, 2001 at 17:28:21 +0100 Stuart Tares wrote: Any of the Microsoft mailers have an option to send an email out using RTF. This may even be the default. H, this is new to me. OE was my emailer before switching to TB a few months ago, and I never knew it sends "RTF" email. AFAICR, it sends html mail by default. No idea about Outlook or Exchange server, though. Thanks (to Markus, too) for the info. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 | Win2k SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! and AVG Anti Virus
Hello Thomas, You [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When will we discard ASCII, ISO-8859-x, Big5, GB2312, etc, and only use UTF? The day TB 2.0 comes out with full UTF8 support, I will :) Cheers, SyP -- Why do rhetorical questions exist? -- Mi az Ön MailBox címe? - http://mailbox.hu -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: The Bat! and AVG Anti Virus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Marck, Tuesday, March 27, 2001, 5:47:33 PM, you wrote: MDP As we all know, TB2 has been "somewhat delayed" which may MDP have thrown a minor spanner in the works. Please tell me, where can I find useful information on TB! 2? - -- Best regards, Dave Wilson. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (E-mail me subject: 'public key' and I will send it to you) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build 04 iQA/AwUBOsIDgYuowXdtlnXzEQKOawCg5jk/ETPaJUmIk/l60/e6zbck2qwAoL88 nzrhtIYr9d8dpSmZEGnXsJWJ =48AV -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! and AVG Anti Virus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi daveiw, On 28 March 2001 at 16:29:59 +0100 (which was 16:29 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote to Marck D. Pearlstone and made these points: MDP As we all know, TB2 has been "somewhat delayed" which may MDP have thrown a minor spanner in the works. dcn Please tell me, where can I find useful information on TB! 2? There is an interview with Stephan Tanurkov on the FAQ web site at http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/FAQ.html but it is wildly outdated, having been published over a year ago (hence the "somewhat delayed" remark). - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Consultant Software Engineer [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 04) Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOsIJuTnkJKuSnc2gEQJUPACeLyn1IJPP9MQmP7rpMHhpdk61/OwAoJ+X Fzs5tGPPGzCCRIEHYhnu7e9n =FuDT -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
The Bat! and AVG Anti Virus
Hello TBUDL, does anyone know when AVG Anti Virus mail check functionality will support The Bat? AVG uses MAPI, but The Bat's MAPI implementation doesn't work with AVG. Eudora's and OE's do. I remember a posting here letting me know that AVG is working on this. Any info would be greatly appreciated. TIA. -- Best Regards, Christian Dysthe [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://christian.dysthe.tripod.com ICQ: 3945810 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! and AVG Anti Virus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Christian, On 27 March 2001 at 10:23:29 -0600 (which was 17:23 where I live) Christian Dysthe wrote to TBUDL and made these points: CD does anyone know when AVG Anti Virus mail check functionality will CD support The Bat? AVG uses MAPI, but The Bat's MAPI implementation CD doesn't work with AVG. Eudora's and OE's do. CD I remember a posting here letting me know that AVG is working on CD this. Any info would be greatly appreciated. The guys at AVG use TB in-house. I'm sure they'd be keen on it but they may have been waiting for TB2 so that they could do it as a plug-in. As we all know, TB2 has been "somewhat delayed" which may have thrown a minor spanner in the works. It may be worth asking AVG. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Consultant Software Engineer [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 04) Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOsDEJTnkJKuSnc2gEQIUngCePRnEXlVJtVwq1ucVxCinNLYpxn0AoKuG TOQ3Aa2ZN0OlL032xztrXgML =JR3d -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! and AVG Anti Virus
Hello all, Tuesday, March 27, 2001, Christian Dysthe wrote: does anyone know when AVG Anti Virus mail check functionality will support The Bat? AVG uses MAPI, but The Bat's MAPI implementation doesn't work with AVG. Eudora's and OE's do. I remember a posting here letting me know that AVG is working on this. Any info would be greatly appreciated. First of all, Grisoft (developer of AVG) works on POP3 proxy, which will check mails going through it. As I know, MAPI implmentation in TB is not possible to use with AVG. Stefan told me, he will implement easy API interface for AV products and as I asked AVG developers, if will be this implemented, they will do plugin for TB. But I don't know, when will be this implemented. -- Bye Marek Mikus Using the best The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 under the worst Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 Intel Celeron 266 MHz, 96 MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: The Bat! and AVG Anti Virus
Hey Marck, Tuesday, March 27, 2001, 11:47:33 AM, you wrote: MDP The guys at AVG use TB in-house. I'm sure they'd be keen on it but MDP they may have been waiting for TB2 so that they could do it as a MDP plug-in. As we all know, TB2 has been "somewhat delayed" which may MDP have thrown a minor spanner in the works. Where can I find information on AVG? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! eMail v1.51 Windows NT 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 1) Why are you wasting time reading taglines? Shop online without a credit card http://www.rocketcash.com RocketCash, a NetZero subsidiary -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! and AVG Anti Virus
On Tuesday, March 27, 2001 at 10:23:29 -0600 Christian Dysthe wrote: does anyone know when AVG Anti Virus mail check functionality will support The Bat? AVG uses MAPI, but The Bat's MAPI implementation doesn't work with AVG. Eudora's and OE's do. So you want AVG to check outgoing mail for you, right? May I ask why? TB creates and sends text-only messages, which are inherently virus-free. As to attachments, well, if you have AVG installed, it should have checked them on your HD, shouldn't it? Or you just want the "virus free" statement added to your outgoing mail, like: Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.219 / Virus Database: 103 - Release Date: 12/05/00 I sometimes see this in newsgroups, and can't help but chuckle (unless they have attachments). As I said, plain-text-only messages are virus free by nature. As to attachments, I don't know why one should trust the statement and not scan them oneself. If you're not talking about outgoing mail, then I apologize. But then, it has nothing to do with MAPI, AFAIK. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 | Win2k SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: The Bat! and AVG Anti Virus
Hello all, Tuesday, March 27, 2001, Ming-Li wrote: Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.219 / Virus Database: 103 - Release Date: 12/05/00 I sometimes see this in newsgroups, and can't help but chuckle (unless they have attachments). As I said, plain-text-only messages are virus free by nature. As to attachments, I don't know why one should trust the statement and not scan them oneself. I'm in support mailinglist of this AV and as I remember, it should be an option to "not" certificate mail without attachment. -- Bye Marek Mikus Using the best The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 under the worst Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 Intel Celeron 266 MHz, 96 MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: The Bat! and AVG Anti Virus
On Tuesday, March 27, 2001 , Ming-Li wrote the following in regards to: [The Bat! and AVG Anti Virus] . Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.219 / Virus Database: 103 - Release Date: 12/05/00 ML I sometimes see this in newsgroups, and can't help but chuckle ML (unless they have attachments). As I said, plain-text-only messages ML are virus free by nature. As to attachments, I don't know why one ML should trust the statement and not scan them oneself. Actually, you are mistaken. Viruses can be spread through RTF files. RTF files and documents are supposed to be ASCII only, and there can be macro viruses. Of course TB cannot execute these, but Outlook and Outlook Express can. . [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ REAL PROBLEMS / REAL SOLUTION ISSN: 1492-7829 A free weekly newsletter on Windows and networking email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.911networks.com Copyright 1999-2001 by 911networks.com - All Rights Reserved +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: The Bat! and AVG Anti Virus
On Tuesday, March 27, 2001, 1:02:47 PM, syv wrote: s Actually, you are mistaken. Viruses can be spread through RTF s files. RTF files and documents are supposed to be ASCII only, and s there can be macro viruses. How can this happen? AFAIK RTF does not have 'dangerous commands'. Is this just an odd behavior of Outlook? Could you give an (innocuous) example? Thanks, ztrader -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! and AVG Anti Virus
Hello all, on Tue, 27 Mar 2001, at 13:27:23 local time (GMT -0800), ztrader wrote: How can this happen? AFAIK RTF does not have 'dangerous commands' http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms00-005.asp -- Rob using The Bat! 1.51 ... I don't mind the rat race but I could do with a little more cheese. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! and AVG Anti Virus
On Tuesday, March 27, 2001 at 22:25:57 +0200 Marek Mikus wrote: I'm in support mailinglist of this AV and as I remember, it should be an option to "not" certificate mail without attachment. But how is the default setting? And does it know how to distinguish plain-text messages from html ones? Regardless, my point is: as a recipient, I don't know what to make of the statement. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but AFAICT, there's no way to verify the statement. IOW, I could put the statement into my template and suddenly all my message would appear to be AVG certified. If that's the case, those lines don't do much good except blowing up the message size, IMHO. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 | Win2k SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! and AVG Anti Virus
On Tuesday, March 27, 2001 at 13:02:47 -0800 syv wrote: ML I sometimes see this in newsgroups, and can't help but chuckle ML (unless they have attachments). As I said, plain-text-only ML messages are virus free by nature. As to attachments, I don't ML know why one should trust the statement and not scan them ML oneself. Actually, you are mistaken. Viruses can be spread through RTF files. RTF files and documents are supposed to be ASCII only, and there can be macro viruses. I think there's some misunderstanding here. I've said "plain-text" messages *without* attachment are virus-free by nature. RTF files are attachments, aren't they? Second, I don't think plain-text email includes everything that can be read with a text editor. If that's the case, even html mail is plain-text mail, isn't it? Third, many programs (in its broadest sense, including macros, scripts, etc.) are stored in a way that can be read with a plain text editor (no binary data included). E.g., .prg (for Dbase), .vbs (visual basic scripts), .bat files and many others. But I don't think you'll call them "plain-text" file, and their functionality depends on a proper "interpreter". When they're not interpreted--i.e., when they're loaded by a plain-text editor (to view their source codes)--they can do no harm, for a plain-text editor would not "execute" the embedded commands. So I think my statement still stands, though I would be happened to be enlightened. :-) -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 | Win2k SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[4]: The Bat! and AVG Anti Virus
On Tuesday, March 27, 2001 , ztrader wrote the following in regards to: [The Bat! and AVG Anti Virus] . z On Tuesday, March 27, 2001, 1:02:47 PM, syv wrote: s Actually, you are mistaken. Viruses can be spread through RTF s files. RTF files and documents are supposed to be ASCII only, and s there can be macro viruses. z How can this happen? AFAIK RTF does not have 'dangerous commands'. Is z this just an odd behavior of Outlook? Could you give an (innocuous) z example? http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/melissa-rtf.html Warning about Melissa Virus in .rtf files We have learned that Melissa virus has recently been spreading again and may not be detected by any antivirus software including Norton AntiVirus. It is important to note that this is not a new variant of the Melissa virus. What we have confirmed a Word document infected by W97M.Melissa.A with the file extension of .rtf is being sent out to many users though email. These documents are not actually in .rtf format files as the file extension name suggests, but is actually a Word format file that has had the file extension name renamed to .rtf. If the antivirus software is not configured to scan the .rtf file extension, the virus will not be detected. To protect yourself from this virus, Symantec AntiVirus Research Center recommends to update the configuration in Norton AntiVirus to include the .rtf file extension as well as the following file extensions in the Scanner and Auto-Protect options. Complete List of File Extension Recommended for Scanning: 386, ADT, BIN, CBT, CLA, COM, CPL, CSC, DLL, DOC, DOT, DRV, EXE, HTM, HTT, JS, MDB, MSO, OV?, POT, PPT, RTF, SCR, SHS, SYS, VBS, XL? To add .rtf to your list of Program Files to be scanned in NAV 95 and NAV NT: 1. Open Norton AntiVirus 2. Click Options. The Options dialog appears. 3. Click the Scanner Tab. 4. Click Select... in the "What to scan" section. NOTE: This button is dimmed (greyed out) if you have the All Files radio button selected. The Program File Extensions dialog will appear. 5. Click New... . 6. Type RTF in the resulting box and then click OK. 7. Click OK in the Options dialog. . [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ REAL PROBLEMS / REAL SOLUTION ISSN: 1492-7829 A free weekly newsletter on Windows and networking email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.911networks.com Copyright 1999-2001 by 911networks.com - All Rights Reserved +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! and AVG Anti Virus
Hi Ming-Li and syv, On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:00:40 -0800GMT (28/03/2001, 10:00 +0800GMT), Ming-Li wrote: No, they do not have to be an attachment. It can actually be the message itself and Outlook Express will recognize it as RTF and format it accordingly Actually most of the time HTML email is plain text. Right. Then this is plain text also: iQA/AwUBOrDlTp5u2uXbByI9EQJwvgCgzZneOqd6euittyJh9/di+cYaYokAn2l because I can open it in a text editor. From which amount/precentage of code / keywords / other stuff not intended to be read by humans would you start saying "this is not plain text any more"? ML H, I think we have different definition about what plain-text ML email is. I'm not sure I'm right, though I still think I'm. :-) I think you are. ;-) ML HTML and RTF are, AFAIK, marked text. I don't think they're ML considered "plain text", especially in the context of email. They are not. They contain instructions to the computer. ML Yes, RTF and HTML files are ASCII files in the sense that it can be ML read with a text editor. But when you load a html (or rtf) with a ML text editor, none of the "commands" (the markup codes) is "executed" ML (interpreted). Hence, executing a .bat file can be harmful, but ML loading a .bat in a text editor cannot. Correct. But a .bat file can be a plain-text message, if one programmer sends it to the other in the body of the message (not as attachment) and says "have a look at my code, please". ML BTW, I don't think only ASCII code 32 to 126 are used in today's ML "text". At least for CJK text, ASCII codes higher than 126 are used, ML too. When will we discard ASCII, ISO-8859-x, Big5, GB2312, etc, and only use UTF? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.51 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! and AVG Anti Virus
Hi syv, On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:04:36 -0800GMT (28/03/2001, 09:04 +0800GMT), syv wrote: s We have learned that Melissa virus has recently been s spreading again and may not be detected by any s antivirus software including Norton AntiVirus. yawn Use PC-Cillin (www.antivirus.com) and be uneffected by about any changed file extensions. Standard setting is "scan all files, include boot sector". -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.51 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
