Re[2]: Time Zones???
Hello!
As an answer for Your letter, I would like to write:
Just out of curiosity, what does BST stand for?
Maybe it's some sub-version of BSE? ;)))
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Re[3]: Time Zones???
Ian, Sunday, April 29, 2001, 9:59:48 PM, you wrote: IA As an aside, does the daylight saving time change at the same IA point universally, or is there a period of several hours or so IA where e-mail systems exist in a point of +-1 Hour relativity? Various countries change in and out of daylight saving time on different dates. For instance, almost all of Europe now changes on the last Sunday of March and back again on the last Sunday of October. Chema: the UK and the rest of the EU have synched their DST switches several years ago. If you want to get a good idea of when various countries or regions switch to DST, if they do so at all, and what time differences they use, I suggest having a look at the excellent 'timepiece' for your Windows-PC called 'World Time' available free from www.pawprint.net. This program allows you to put a customizable bar of clocks from around the world on your screen, sync your PC to NTP or datetime sources and has an extensive database of world cities, their locations (longitude/latitude) and their DST times to go with it. I use this to keep track of the time of the people I'm chatting with when I'm on IRC. -- Maurice ICQ: 15724776 WWW: http://www.kiap.org/ Thawte Web of Trust Notary, see http://www.thawte.com/ +--+ | Schrijf je in voor / Register for EuroBiCon One! | | 22-24 June 2001 Rotterdam, The Netherlands | | Website: http://www.intbiconf.org/ | +--+ -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Time Zones???
Hi Nick, on Sun, 29 Apr 2001 13:32:58 -0700 GMT (which was 29.04.2001, 22:32 +0100 GMT where I live) Nick Andriash wrote: JR Ian, if you are inn the UK, we are now on BST of course, 1 hr ahead of JR GMT. Just out of curiosity, what does BST stand for? I suppose: British Summer Time ! -- Best regards, Roland mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP-Key: 0x0D023C45 I use The Bat! v1.51 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A ! -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Time Zones???
Hello Marck, Monday, April 30, 2001, 12:05:13 AM, you wrote: NA Just out of curiosity, what does BST stand for? WM British Summer Time - it lasts about 3 weeks! MDP ROFLMHO! ... and for only four days in that 3 week period! I'll second that! How do you know it's summer in England? The rain's warmer! This is not off-topic because one of the great features of TB! is its handling of the twenty-four (!) time zones and the switch between EDT, BST and other Northern hemisphere equinoctal changes. The proposed African time zone of the International Standard Hour will, I am sure, be well within TB!'s scope. For those of you not familiar with this new time zone, it will then be correct to time-stamp a message as 06:30ish. The other reason for this message is to celebrate my discovery of TB!'s amazing threading capabilities. -- Best Regards Richardmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Time Zones???
Hello All, I just wanted to ask about the tagging of time zones in e-mail headers. I live in GMT, but the headers say +0100. Is e-mail time measured differently to GMT, or is +0100 a 'tag' for GMT? Thanks for any help. ian -- Consistency is the last resort of the unimaginative. - Oscar Wilde Ian Andolina Tel: 0207 608 6841 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Time Zones???
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greetings Ian On 29 April 2001 at 18:08:57 +0100 (which was 18:08 where I live) Ian Andolina wrote I live in GMT, but the headers say +0100. So do I but I am in BST i.e. GMT +0100 for daylight saving time. - -- See you in Cyber space, ___ David | MUA:- The Bat! 1.52 Beta/12 | E-mailaholics | _| Win 2000 Server 5.0.2195 SP1 | International | | * - Tribble ~ - Very drunk Tribble | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt (Build 04/01) Comment: PGP Signed, sealed, delivered. iQA/AwUBOuxqB/mK8eZlD0U0EQKJxQCgnJG5cQk800kyCx5sCfigfhcDkjEAnj0i rITIMZVxBw7SRDiD3Hu0fESd =F2uH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Time Zones???
On 29 April 2001 at 20:36:04GMT +0100 (20:22 for me) David Elliott wrote in Time Zones???: I live in GMT, but the headers say +0100. DE So do I but I am in BST i.e. GMT +0100 for daylight saving time. OK, thank you. As an aside, does the daylight saving time change at the same point universally, or is there a period of several hours or so where e-mail systems exist in a point of +-1 Hour relativity? ian -- Millitary Intelligence is a contradiction in terms. - Groucho Marx Ian Andolina Tel: 0207 608 6841 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Time Zones???
Hello Ian, Sunday, April 29, 2001, 6:08:57 PM, you wrote: IA Hello All, IA I just wanted to ask about the tagging of time zones in e-mail IA headers. I live in GMT, but the headers say +0100. Is e-mail time IA measured differently to GMT, or is +0100 a 'tag' for GMT? Thanks for IA any help. IA ian Ian, if you are inn the UK, we are now on BST of course, 1 hr ahead of GMT. -- Best regards, Julianmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: Time Zones???
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greetings Ian On 29 April 2001 at 20:59:48 +0100 (which was 20:59 where I live) Ian Andolina rearranged electrons to get As an aside, does the daylight saving time change at the same point universally, AFAIK No, but I don't know this for sure or is there a period of several hours or so where e-mail systems exist in a point of +-1 Hour relativity? pass - -- BFN, ___ David | MUA:- The Bat! 1.52 Beta/12 | E-mailaholics | _| Win 2000 Server 5.0.2195 SP1 | International | | Truly, There is Often Much Truth in Taglines! | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt (Build 04/01) Comment: PGP Signed, sealed, delivered. iQA/AwUBOux5YfmK8eZlD0U0EQJ5bgCg7ftyIubix/MVwpIroNUBKWBo3WAAn2bu ddDscbz57qT455twiv/RB2lE =YSeg -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Time Zones???
On April 29, 2001, at 1:10:29 PM, Julian Robbins wrote: JR Ian, if you are inn the UK, we are now on BST of course, 1 hr ahead of JR GMT. Just out of curiosity, what does BST stand for? -- Nick -=N.J. Andriash | Vancouver, B.C. Canada=- [ TB! v1.52 Beta/12/iKey1000 | Win 98 SE ] [ GnuPG v1.0.4-2 (MingW32) | Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE ] __ -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Time Zones???
Hello Nick, Sunday, April 29, 2001, 9:32:58 PM, you wrote: NA On April 29, 2001, at 1:10:29 PM, Julian Robbins wrote: JR Ian, if you are inn the UK, we are now on BST of course, 1 hr ahead of JR GMT. NA Just out of curiosity, what does BST stand for? British Summer Time - it lasts about 3 weeks! -- Best regards, Williammailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Time Zones???
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi William, On 29 April 2001 at 21:54:48 +0100 (which was 21:54 where I live) William Moore wrote to Nick Andriash and made these points: JR Ian, if you are inn the UK, we are now on BST of course, 1 hr JR ahead of GMT. NA Just out of curiosity, what does BST stand for? WM British Summer Time - it lasts about 3 weeks! ROFLMHO! ... and for only four days in that 3 week period! - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] SB! v1.52 Beta/12/iKey1000 [14F4B4B2] on Win2K Pro Build 2195 SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 05) Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOuyQGTnkJKuSnc2gEQIH/QCg8CbAaBKUY4kJM6WvwZdX64PrIpYAoJBk KrfFWy9C4fwDw4MaRKkeagW3 =UTPd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Time Zones???
On April 29, 2001, at 1:54:48 PM, William Moore wrote: WM British Summer Time - it lasts about 3 weeks! Ah, leave it to the British... always have to be different... can't call it DST (Daylight Savings Time). Just like choosing to drive on the wrong side of the road! ;o) He he he -- Nick -=N.J. Andriash | Vancouver, B.C. Canada=- [ TB! v1.52 Beta/12/iKey1000 | Win 98 SE ] [ GnuPG v1.0.4-2 (MingW32) | Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE ] __ -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: Time Zones???
Hello Listers, On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, at 20:59:48 [GMT +0100] (which was 21:59 where I live) Ian wrote: IA OK, thank you. As an aside, does the daylight saving time change IA at the same point universally, or is there a period of several hours IA or so where e-mail systems exist in a point of +-1 Hour relativity? It changes a week before in the European Union -- Chema Berian mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Spanish GDUTB Moderator mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.51 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Time Zones???
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Nick, On 29 April 2001 at 15:12:43 -0700 (which was 23:12 where I live) Nick Andriash wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points: WM British Summer Time - it lasts about 3 weeks! NA Ah, leave it to the British... always have to be different... NA can't call it DST (Daylight Savings Time). Just like choosing to NA drive on the wrong side of the road! ;o) He he he Actually, it was the famous British Humour. BST Lasts from spring to fall equinox same as standard DST. William was referring to how little actual summer we get out the deal. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] SB! v1.52 Beta/12/iKey1000 [14F4B4B2] on Win2K Pro Build 2195 SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 05) Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOuyVyTnkJKuSnc2gEQJBZQCfQ1i2EJ8y9yLoOmJazkfcaWdhn+0An2kn 4CeF43lAaOsvP7f+qTsSAXmV =OsmL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Time zones with greetings
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Thomas, On 20 January 2001 at 14:17:28 +0800 (which was 06:17 where I live) Thomas wrote and made these points: T Since it is not on the FAQ page It is now - thanks for highlighting that little omission :-). - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.49c S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOmlntznkJKuSnc2gEQIdKQCg9kWMBhf0UkTj+NK4Uh0zDsDSWwYAn3fl 4BHbqmp/hAW4DNmbo/cSPSi4 =rKa2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Time zones with greetings
Hello TBUDL, Since I am still a newbie, tell me how to do this: I use the usual Time Zone greeting when I respond to friends who live in my own country (same GMT zone), but what is the macro command to write 'which was time where I live' like all of you do when reply, since we all are from different GMT zones? Thank you in advance. -- Best Regards, Lija, YUPCExpert-Owner [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Time zones with greetings
Hello Lija,
Historians believe that on Sat, 20 Jan 2001 at 06:02:13 GMT +0100,
Lija [L] typed:
L I use the usual Time Zone greeting when I respond to friends who live in my own
L country (same GMT zone), but what is the macro command to write 'which was
L time where I live' like all of you do when reply, since we all are from
L different GMT zones?
You need %OTIME for the original message's time converted to your
timezone.
The unconverted time is retrieved using a regular expression. You can
find that macro on the FAQ at:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/macros.html
So an example is:
%SETPATTREGEXP="(?m-s)Date\:\s*?((.*?[\d]{4})\s*?([\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2})\s*?(.*))"%REGEXPBLINDMATCH="%HEADERS"On%SUBPATT="2",
at %SUBPATT="3" [GMT%SUBPATT="4"] (which was %OTIME where I live),...
Which gives:
On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, at 06:02:13 [GMT +0100] (which was 9:02 PM where I live),...
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Re: Time zones with greetings
Hi Lija,
On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 06:02:13 +0100GMT (20/01/2001, 13:02 +0800GMT),
Lija wrote:
I use the usual Time Zone greeting when I respond to friends who live in my own
country (same GMT zone), but what is the macro command to write 'which was
time where I live' like all of you do when reply, since we all are from
different GMT zones?
Since it is not on the FAQ page
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/macros.html , I am posting here
what the time zone greeting looks like in my reply template:
On%SETPATTREGEXP="(?m-s)Date\:\s*?((.*?[\d]{4})\s*?([\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2})\s*?(.*))"%REGEXPMATCH="%HEADERS"GMT
(%ODateShort, %OTime +0800GMT),
%OFROMNAME wrote:
The result you see above. If you cp it, don't forget to adjust the
"+0800GMT" to your time zone.
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The Bat! - bug report : unsupported time zones
Hello The Bat! developers,
I'm using The Bat! Version 1.48 Beta/1 (but this applies to 1.47 as well)
Serial Number BB892117
under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 4
and would like to report a bug
The bug description:
the displayed local time of a message is not always correct. With
'displayed local time' i refer to the time displayed in the
'created' column or the cretaion time message header _and_ in the
%OTime/%ODate macro.
Bug: some common used time zones are not supported or wrong
Steps to reproduce the bug:
/1/ take a mail with the following Date field:
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 16:43:47 CEST
(yes, it's from a hotmail server...)
/2/ TB! interprets CEST as +0100, while it should be +0200
(for CET, TB! does it right, CET is really +0100)
Note: while CEST is not really allowed by RFC822 (neither is CET),
TB! should IMHO treat it right. There has to be some database, as
TB! knows about CET. Excerpt from RFC822 (why are explicitly only
north american time zones supported as abbreviations?):
zone= "UT" / "GMT"; Universal Time
; North American : UT
/ "EST" / "EDT"; Eastern: - 5/ - 4
/ "CST" / "CDT"; Central: - 6/ - 5
/ "MST" / "MDT"; Mountain: - 7/ - 6
/ "PST" / "PDT"; Pacific: - 8/ - 7
/ 1ALPHA ; Military: Z = UT;
; A:-1; (J not used)
; M:-12; N:+1; Y:+12
/ ( ("+" / "-") 4DIGIT ); Local differential
; hours+min. (HHMM)
[snip]
Time zone may be indicated in several ways. "UT" is Univer-
sal Time (formerly called "Greenwich Mean Time"); "GMT" is per-
mitted as a reference to Universal Time. The military standard
uses a single character for each zone. "Z" is Universal Time.
"A" indicates one hour earlier, and "M" indicates 12 hours ear-
lier; "N" is one hour later, and "Y" is 12 hours later. The
letter "J" is not used. The other remaining two forms are taken
from ANSI standard X3.51-1975. One allows explicit indication of
the amount of offset from UT; the other uses common 3-character
strings for indicating time zones in North America.
Regards,
Peter Steiner
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