X-Ray Question
Hello TB User Discussion List, I've set up X-Ray for POP3 with local port of 1 and Remote Port of 110. In TB, I changed the port address to 1. I tried replacing my User name with xray and xray.srv to no avail. What changes to I have to make to TB to get this to work - I can't find the email program setup in the X-Ray docs. -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro 4.0.24.23 AntispamSniper 1.8.0.8 XP Pro SP3 POP3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: X-Ray Question
Saturday, June 28, 2008, Bill McCarthy wrote: In TB, I changed the port address to 1. I tried replacing my User name with xray and xray.srv to no avail. What changes to I have to make to TB to get this to work I'm not familiar with X-ray so I might be totally wrong but... You did remember to set TB! to localhost (or 127.0.0.1) as Mail server? -- Urban I wonder if other dogs think poodles are members of a weird religious cult. (Rita Roodner) Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: X-Ray Question
On Sat 28-Jun-08 7:07pm -0600, Urban wrote: Saturday, June 28, 2008, Bill McCarthy wrote: In TB, I changed the port address to 1. I tried replacing my User name with xray and xray.srv to no avail. What changes to I have to make to TB to get this to work I'm not familiar with X-ray so I might be totally wrong but... You did remember to set TB! to localhost (or 127.0.0.1) as Mail server? Now that sounds familiar. No I didn't change it - that wasn't mentioned anywhere in the X-Ray readme file. I just tried it out - thanks, that worked! -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro 4.0.24.23 AntispamSniper 1.8.0.8 XP Pro SP3 POP3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: X-Ray?
On Tue 9 November 2004, 8:51:40 +1000, Michael Acklin wrote: Good Idea. Exactly what I was thinking when I kept see the replies going out with the Popfile subject line modified. Guess I am going to have to figure out how to do that without too much trouble. I suggest you set up Popfile to have: Subject Header Modification - off X-Text-Classification Header - on X-Popfile-Link Header - on Then in TB! Preferences set up two new headers (Message List - Message Headers): (Display name) Popfile bucket, (RFC Name) X-Text-Classification (Display name) Popfile link, (RFC Name) X-Popfile-Link Then display both of these in the header area of the message. That way you can see the Popfile bucket without it being in the header, and you can double click on the Popfile link if you need to reclassify a message in Popfile. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: X-Ray?
On Tue 9 November 2004, 14:37:40 +1000, I wrote: Then display both of these in the header area of the message. That way you can see the Popfile bucket without it being in the header, and you I meant, of course, you can see the Popfile bucket without it being in the SUBJECT! can double click on the Popfile link if you need to reclassify a message in Popfile. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: X-Ray?
Monday, November 8, 2004, 9:37:40 PM, (Internet Time - @192) you wrote: Hello Robin, RA I suggest you set up Popfile to have: RASubject Header Modification - off RAX-Text-Classification Header - on RAX-Popfile-Link Header - on Did exactly that right after reading the message from Alexander. I had forgotten that you could do that and pulled up the PopFile interface and shut off the Subject Header Modification. The other 2 were already one. (See Below) RA Then in TB! Preferences set up two new headers (Message List - Message RA Headers): RA(Display name) Popfile bucket, (RFC Name) X-Text-Classification RA(Display name) Popfile link, (RFC Name) X-Popfile-Link RA Then display both of these in the header area of the message. That way RA you can see the Popfile bucket without it being in the header, and you RA can double click on the Popfile link if you need to reclassify a message RA in Popfile. I had read on this list about this very subject and have it all set up just as you mentioned. I use that most of the time to reclassify all the messages not right. I think I have been using that feature for about a month now, right after installing and using the Bat! But I do thank you for you reply and suggestions. I am still learning and liking the Bat! more and more each day. All the great information from this list has helped me a lot. Maybe someday I will be knowledgeable enough to help someone else. :) -- Best regards, Michael :texasflag: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Daily Bible Verses at http://freeop.blogspot.com/ Registered Linux User #367776 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: X-Ray?
Hello Michael Acklin everyone else on 09-Nov-2004 at 15:26:10 (GMT +0100), you wrote: Did exactly that right after reading the message from Alexander Glad you understood the irony in my post. :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using TB! v3.0.2.6 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 If any man can see both sides of a given problem, you can rest assured that he had a hand in it's creation. -- Todd H. Knight Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
X-Ray?
Hello All, I downloaded X-Ray yesterday after reading a few people using it and I had a few questions. (Hopefully this is not too far off topic as it is related to The Bat!) I have PopFile set up on my localhost on port 8080 on 3 of my accounts. I have Freepops set up on another account with localhost on port 2000. I have looked everywhere to find out what port X-Ray uses, but all I can find is port 110 for POP3 and 25 for SMTP. I have the SMTP working, but with my PopFile on three of the accounts, it doesn't look like I can use X-Ray for incoming mail. Is there anyone familiar with x-ray and adjusting the Pop3 Ports? I have looked at the help pages and it is all concerning using the default ports with nothing in between the e-mail client and the Pop3 server. I guess I could adjust PopFile to come after X-Ray, but wanted to ask others before attempting such a configuration. Thanks in advance as I know all you are very good at help people out. -- Best regards, Michael mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Daily Bible Verses at http://freeop.blogspot.com/ Registered Linux User #367776 These pineapples are from the workshop of the fairy 'Amy Surplus.' Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: X-Ray?
Monday, November 8, 2004, 10:52:13 AM, (Internet Time - @744) you wrote: Hello Gerard, G Hi Michael, G This is slightly confusing but not to difficult. G The Internet software uses ports to connect. For 2 programs to talk to each G other one has to receive on a port and the other has to send on a port. G For email your email program sends the mail using SMTP protocol on port 25 and G POP3 protocol on port 110. These are predefined protocol ports. G X-ray can use one port to receive and one to send, it is up to you to select G these. Since you will want to place X-ray after TB! your best bet is to look G at your account(properties-transport) setting in TB! to see which port TB! is G using now. G Add 1000 to these numbers and configure Xray to receive on your port + 1000 and G send on the ports you currently have set in TB!. If these new ports in TB! cause G a conflict try add or subtracting number but you should be ok with 1024 and G 1110. Thanks Gerard, I am going to do some changing around and see if I can get this to work. I appreciate your reply, I just can't figure how to get PopFile and X-Ray to work together yet. Will try and see I can change the Pop3 one to work. The SMTP on port 25 works fine. It is just the incoming mail I have a problem with. Will keep trying :) -- Best regards, Michael :texasflag: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Daily Bible Verses at http://freeop.blogspot.com/ Registered Linux User #367776 Relax, otherwise you might die all tensed up. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: X-Ray?
Hallo Michael, OnGMT (1-1-1980, 1:00 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MA I appreciate your reply, I just can't figure how to get PopFile and MA X-Ray to work together yet. Will try and see I can change the Pop3 one MA to work. Before you configure the pop3 servers in X-Ray, scribble down the ports you're using in other programs. It isn't bound to fail when you use a port for multiple programs, but it's causing troubles more often than not. Now you configure a new pop3 server in X-Ray, as local port you pick a free port (doesn't matter what) as remote server you pick localhost (or 127.0.0.1) and as remote port you pick the local port popfile is using. So now you've configured the server in X-Ray, the last thing you need to do is to tell TB that for the appropriate account it doesn't have to knock at the port used by popfile, but to knock at the one used by x-ray instead. As easy as that. Now do likewise for every other proxy you're using. X-Ray doesn't mind at all which port you'd like to use, just type another number and it uses that. Keep in mind that your system's maximum portumber is 65535. -- Groetjes, Roelof Water floats a ship...Water sinks a ship. Old Chinese Proverb The Bat! 3.0.2.6 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpV96Nt8PU9t.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [the_bat] Re: X-Ray?
Monday, November 8, 2004, 11:28:42 AM, (Internet Time - @769) you wrote: Hello Roelof, RO Hallo Michael, RO Before you configure the pop3 servers in X-Ray, scribble down the ports RO you're using in other programs. It isn't bound to fail when you use a RO port for multiple programs, but it's causing troubles more often than RO not. RO Now you configure a new pop3 server in X-Ray, as local port you pick a RO free port (doesn't matter what) as remote server you pick localhost RO (or 127.0.0.1) and as remote port you pick the local port popfile is RO using. RO So now you've configured the server in X-Ray, the last thing you need RO to do is to tell TB that for the appropriate account it doesn't have RO to knock at the port used by popfile, but to knock at the one used by RO x-ray instead. RO As easy as that. RO Now do likewise for every other proxy you're using. RO X-Ray doesn't mind at all which port you'd like to use, just type RO another number and it uses that. Keep in mind that your system's RO maximum portumber is 65535. You and Gerard are a great help. After working around the two programs, it finally donned on me what was happening. I was expecting to see the pop server active in x-ray when I changed everything over to what Roelof mentioned. It never does show up, but that didn't mean it wasn't working, which it was. Ended up putting a test header and x-ray worked as expected, without the popserver being active. Which is fine. X-Ray is working perfectly as expected. Just have to figure out what I want to do with it now. :) Again thanks to all that helped out and even with my wrong date and time stamp...:( -- Best regards, Michael :texasflag: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Daily Bible Verses at http://freeop.blogspot.com/ Registered Linux User #367776 An Aggie will spend $20 to spend the night in a warehouse. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: X-Ray?
Time to review your template? You're removing the space between Re: and the subject. Notice how mine puts that space back in. -- Best regards, Bill Beta 3.0.2.6 Pro BayesIt! 0.7.3 X-Ray 1.0.1.2 XMP 0.9.6 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [the_bat] Re: X-Ray?
Hello Michael Acklin everyone else 08-Nov-2004 20:35, you wrote: X-Ray is working perfectly as expected. Just have to figure out what I want to do with it now. :) You could start with removing the subject tags that Popfile adds to your messages. ;-) *SCNR* -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using TB! v3.0.2.5 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 On the keyboard of life, always keep one finger on the escape key. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [the_bat] Re: X-Ray?
Hallo Michael, On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 13:35:16 -0600GMT (8-11-2004, 20:35 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MA You and Gerard are a great help. Glad to be of any assistance. -- Groetjes, Roelof It takes about ten years to get used to how old you are. The Bat! 3.0.2.6 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpezNCW0W3Na.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: X-Ray?
Hello Bill, Monday, November 8, 2004, 8:38:26 PM, you wrote: Time to review your template? You're removing the space between Re: and the subject. Notice how mine puts that space back in. you mean, like now? I didn't know there was a space supposed to be. Well I have some spare spaces lying around, so I will send them out with each subject ;-) -- Best regards, Jürgen :eu-flag3: :de-bw: :safaribears: The shortest distance between two points is under construction. - Noelie Altito Using The Bat! v3.0.2.4 Rush, Opera v7.54.3865 on WinXP Home v2600 SP2 * PGP key available on request: send mail with subject 'PGP key request' pgpKufACV7c06.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: X-Ray?
Hello Bill McCarthy everyone else on 08-Nov-2004 at 20:38:51 (GMT +0100), you wrote: Notice how mine puts that space back in. Notice how I don't fiddle with the subject at all it looks just right. ;-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using TB! v3.0.2.6 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 Deliplayer2 is playing: On the way to the garden of destiny by Peter Kuhlmann Juergen Rehberg from the 1993 album 'Passion' Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: X-Ray?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Mon, 8 Nov 2004, @ @ at 21:50:23 +0100, when Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Hello Bill McCarthy everyone else on 08-Nov-2004 at 20:38:51 (GMT +0100), you wrote: Notice how mine puts that space back in. Notice how I don't fiddle with the subject at all it looks just right. ;-) Lo, notice mine too! The space is really vast and there's enough for all. - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast :eyes: [Earth LOG: 68 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OS: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) 9.1 UMSDOS Linux, and with Bochs 2.1.1 with a small DLX Linux; [this is a spare space, for a rent] and, for TB sometimes Libranet (Linux) 2.8.1, via Cross Over Office -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBj+L09q62QPd3XuIRAp52AJkByVZvij503vx1KdrKQjl2qUcTmACePL+G xmgkv8P4xNkTy3xLV7RR9wc= =kMf1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: X-Ray?
Monday, November 8, 2004, 1:43:20 PM, (Internet Time - @863) you wrote: Hello Alexander, ASK Hello Michael Acklin everyone else ASK 08-Nov-2004 20:35, you wrote: X-Ray is working perfectly as expected. Just have to figure out what I want to do with it now. :) ASK You could start with removing the subject tags that Popfile adds to your ASK messages. ;-) ASK *SCNR* Good Idea. Exactly what I was thinking when I kept see the replies going out with the Popfile subject line modified. Guess I am going to have to figure out how to do that without too much trouble. Thanks, Alexander, for pointing it out. :) -- Best regards, Michael :texasflag: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Daily Bible Verses at http://freeop.blogspot.com/ Registered Linux User #367776 CHICKEN: The only animal you eat before it's born and after it's dead. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: error when mailing attachment via x-ray
ON Thursday, July 8, 2004, 12:01:00 AM, you wrote: CMG Nothing much to confirm. If X-ray doesn't end a message with \r\n.\r\n CMG it's broken :/ Hi Charles, That might be true but it is strange that if you change something in the msg ( I usually add a few spaces and a Cr/lf) it works fine. I have learned to life with this strange quirk :\ -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= The more I practice, the luckier I get. -Gary Player Using The Bat! v2.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: error when mailing attachment via x-ray
Hello Zonnet, Thursday, July 8, 2004, 11:57:57 AM, you wrote: CMG If X-ray doesn't end a message with \r\n.\r\n CMG it's broken :/ That might be true but it is strange that if you change something in the msg ( I usually add a few spaces and a Cr/lf) it works fine. I have learned to life with this strange quirk :\ Can you explain more explicitly *what* exactly you are doing? Do I understand you properly that adding a few spaces and a line feed at the end of the message body avoids the problem described in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ? -- Best regards, Cyrille mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [ TB! 2.11.02, Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000, Pentium 233Mhz with 95MB ] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: error when mailing attachment via x-ray
ON Thursday, July 8, 2004, 7:27:07 PM, you wrote: C Can you explain more explicitly *what* exactly you are doing? C Do I understand you properly that adding a few spaces and a line feed at C the end of the message body avoids the problem described in Hi Cyrille, Actually I make the changes at the top of the email because I do not want to scroll down. Sometimes it seems to take 2 tries but I have always been able to get it out. Changes are minmal and, like I mentioned before, are nothing more then e few spaces and sometime a CR/LF. I should mention I use PostcastServer as a SMPT mailer, so I do not have to deal with different server. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Why am I using a new putter? Because the last one didn't float too well. -Craig Stadler Using The Bat! v2.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: error when mailing attachment via x-ray
Tuesday, July 6, 2004, 4:59:09 PM, Cyrille wrote: C Hello TBUDL, C I use X-ray (for SMTP) with TheBat! C When ever I try to send a mail with an attached file I get an error C message Message has not been sent. Server reply - t mail input; end C with CRLF.CRLF. C What does this mean? C What is going wrong? Seems some mail servers are more forgiving than others (looser specs). Maybe something changed; new release of X-ray, new server at your ISP, ... See: http://cr.yp.to/smtp/request.html#response for some info and use protocol.ini to see what TheBat is sending/receiving. -- Regards, Plan9 :plan9: It is all right to decorate construction but never construct decoration --Pugin Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: error when mailing attachment via x-ray
Hello Plan9, Wednesday, July 7, 2004, 3:50:58 PM, you wrote: Seems some mail servers are more forgiving than others (looser specs). Maybe something changed; new release of X-ray, new server at your ISP, ... The problem seems to be X-ray, because I tried the same thing with different servers of different ISP, with X-ray and TB without X-ray, and the problem occurs with any ISP and only when X-ray handels TB's SMTP. -- Best regards, Cyrille mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [ TB! 2.11.02, Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000, Pentium 233Mhz with 95MB ] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: error when mailing attachment via x-ray
Cyrille wrote: The problem seems to be X-ray, because I tried the same thing with different servers of different ISP, with X-ray and TB without X-ray, and the problem occurs with any ISP and only when X-ray handels TB's SMTP. Confirmed. I have, regrettably, given up using X-Ray because I can not send outgoing messages with attachments. This happens, as Cyrille wrote, with any ISP. Further, there is no filtering of outbound messages; no anti-virus check, no outbound firewall. -- Dave Goodman The Bat! v1.62r Windows 2000 [5.0.2195 Service Pack 4] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: error when mailing attachment via x-ray
Hello Dave, on Wednesday, 7. July 2004, at 15:09:09 [GMT -0400] you wrote: I have, regrettably, given up using X-Ray because I can not send outgoing messages with attachments. This happens, as Cyrille wrote, with any ISP. It works fin with X-Ray 0.2. Version 1.0 is, i don't know why, buggy regarding sending emails with attachments. -- Ciao Thomas Mailer: TheBat! 2.12 Beta/7 OS: Windows XP Service Pack 1 PGP:PGP 8.0 | Key: 0x70D9F03B HP: http://www.thebatworld.de pgpxvW5sQzwOx.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: error when mailing attachment via x-ray
On Thu 8 July 2004, 5:55:53 +1000, Thomas Martin wrote: It works fin with X-Ray 0.2. Version 1.0 is, i don't know why, buggy regarding sending emails with attachments. This is precisely my experience as well. The only difference that I can see between the two versions apart from the fact that v0.2.0 works in this respect, is that it also lacks the logging function - which I never made use of anyway. -- :Robin_Anson: Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: error when mailing attachment via x-ray
Hello Dave, On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 15:09:09 -0400 UTC, Dave Goodman wrote: The problem seems to be X-ray, because I tried the same thing with different servers of different ISP, with X-ray and TB without X-ray, and the problem occurs with any ISP and only when X-ray handels TB's SMTP. DG Confirmed. Nothing much to confirm. If X-ray doesn't end a message with \r\n.\r\n it's broken :/ -- Regards, Charles. Using TB! 2.12 Beta/8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 /Courier IMAP 3.0.5 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
error when mailing attachment via x-ray
Hello TBUDL, I use X-ray (for SMTP) with TheBat! When ever I try to send a mail with an attached file I get an error message Message has not been sent. Server reply - t mail input; end with CRLF.CRLF. What does this mean? What is going wrong? -- Best regards, Cyrille mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [ TB! 2.11.02, Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000, Pentium 233Mhz with 95MB ] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: error when mailing attachment via x-ray
Hallo Cyrille, On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 22:59:09 +0200GMT (6-7-2004, 22:59 +0200, where I live), you wrote: C I use X-ray (for SMTP) with TheBat! C When ever I try to send a mail with an attached file I get an error C message Message has not been sent. Server reply - t mail input; end C with CRLF.CRLF. TB expects a server reply like: 354 Start mail input; end with CRLF.CRLF The actual text isn't important, what is important is the number. It looks like something is preventing a proper synchronized connection between TB an X-Ray. The problem could be a virus scanner that checks outgoing mail or a firewall that does some checking on attachments. -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: error when mailing attachment via x-ray
Hello Cyrille, On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 22:59:09 +0200 UTC, Cyrille wrote: C I use X-ray (for SMTP) with TheBat! C When ever I try to send a mail with an attached file I get an error C message Message has not been sent. Server reply - t mail input; end C with CRLF.CRLF. C What does this mean? C What is going wrong? I don't have any clue about the programs you're using, but assuming that X-ray is handing your messages off to an smtpd, the smtpd doesn't like the way X-ray is sending a message. Specifically, the smtpd expects a message to be terminated with CRLF.CRLF. Here's a transcript from a smtp session which you can replicate (see if you can find the CRLF.CRLF: $ telnet mail.nednieuws.com 25 Trying 64.247.11.80... Connected to mail.nednieuws.com. Escape character is '^]'. 220 sun.procreatie.nl ESMTP ehlo localhost 250-sun.procreatie.nl 250-PIPELINING 250-8BITMIME 250-SIZE 209715200 250 AUTH LOGIN PLAIN CRAM-MD5 mail from:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 ok rcpt to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 ok data 354 go ahead Subject: This is a test. A very nice test. . 250 ok 1089159589 qp 74064 quit 221 sun.procreatie.nl Connection closed by foreign host. -- Regards, Charles. Using TB! 2.12 Beta/8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: error when mailing attachment via x-ray
On Wed 7 July 2004, 6:59:09 +1000, Cyrille wrote: I use X-ray (for SMTP) with TheBat! When ever I try to send a mail with an attached file I get an error message Message has not been sent. Server reply - t mail input; end with CRLF.CRLF. What does this mean? Don't know What is going wrong? Don't know, but I also experienced that when I installed X-Ray v1.0. I have gone back to v0.2.0 (the previous version) which works without any problems. That was my solution. The X-Ray site offers earlier versions, but does not appear to include v0.2.0 so if you want to try it, I can send it to you directly by PM. -- :Robin_Anson: Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
X-Ray: why?
Someone told me I should be using X-Ray if I use the Bat. I have downloaded it and configured it a little, and now I need to ask why? What does it really do for me? Anyone have any good Kludge filters to use with it? Why shuffle SMTP and POP servers? Any ideas? -- Michael L. Wilson Philospher Teacher Critic Big Brother is watching - George Orwell (1984) Using The Bat! version 2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Nod32 anti-virus PopFile anti-Spam Outpost Pro Firewall Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: X-Ray: why?
On Friday, May 28, 2004, 8:14:25 AM, Michael L. Wilson wrote: Someone told me I should be using X-Ray if I use the Bat. I have downloaded it and configured it a little, and now I need to ask why? What does it really do for me? Anyone have any good Kludge filters to use with it? Why shuffle SMTP and POP servers? Any ideas? There are two reasons you might wish to use X-Ray. One is that is allows you to modify the headers in your email messages - it is a quite sophisticated program in this respect. The other reason is if you are using TB! on a laptop, for example, and may need to send messages through a variety of SMTP servers. In this case you tell TB that the SMTP server is Localhost (X-Ray) and X-Ray can either manually or automatically choose the SMTP server. For example, I used X-Ray to choose between a Work (Exchange), Home (DSL) and Mobile (Dial-up) SMTP server, which it did automatically depending on the IP address the laptop had been allocated. I don't do this now, as my ISP has an option of Authenticated SMTP, so I can send mail through my ISP's SMTP servers whichever network I am connected to. Hope this helps! [ps - your sig delimited is broken. It should be [dash][dash][space] Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: X-Ray: why?
***^\ ~~( __ _o Was Fri, 28 May 2004, at 00:14:25 -0700, @ @ when Michael L. Wilson wrote: Someone told me I should be using X-Ray if I use the Bat. I have downloaded it and configured it a little, and now I need to ask why? What does it really do for me? It depends on what you want/need. Just one of the examples I use it for: since The Bat cannot write the time when a message is *sent*, I use X-Ray for writing this time in (the sent line in my headers). Generally, it serves for editing (in/out) header part of a message, as Julian already explained. -- Mica Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: X-Ray: why?
Hi Michael. At 3:14 AM on Friday, May 28, 2004 it seems you posted the following to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in regards to X-Ray: why?: A less techie type reason was, that until recently, TB! users could not control their x-mailer header. As a consequence there were some over ambitious or ignorant services that filtered out The Bat! email because somewhere/sometime ago TB! was mentioned as a client that could be easily automated for spamming purposes. Of course, TB! licensing expresses prohibits it's use for spamming but never mind; there are a lot of really dumb administrators out there. X-ray allowed TB! users to change the x-mailer header as well as other functions as others have explained. TB! users can now turn off the x-mailer header which avoids the problem. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.11 Beta/8/W2K_SP3 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: X-Ray: why?
Hallo Mica, On Fri, 28 May 2004 12:39:23 +0200GMT (28-5-04, 12:39 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MM Just one of the examples I use it for: since The Bat cannot write the MM time when a message is *sent*, I use X-Ray for writing this time in (the MM sent line in my headers). But your ISP's smtp server will do that for you, so why the fuss? ;-) -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: X-Ray: why?
***^\ ~~( __ _o Was Fri, 28 May 2004, at 16:37:52 +0200, @ @ when Roelof Otten wrote: Hallo Mica, On Fri, 28 May 2004 12:39:23 +0200GMT (28-5-04, 12:39 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MM Just one of the examples I use it for: since The Bat cannot write the MM time when a message is *sent*, I use X-Ray for writing this time in (the MM sent line in my headers). But your ISP's smtp server will do that for you, so why the fuss? ;-) What fuse? 8-) I use it from two reasons: 1) The time I sent it from my contraption is not same time the contraption of my ISP has (re)sent it from. But it is not so significant. 2) It is written in a much more user friendly form, so that even those not that skilled in reading headers can find it easily. A sub-reason 2a) is that I can add some specific data about specific profile of my communication contraption system, related to the time a message is living it, which means something to some of my correspondents, and to me myself. -- Mica Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cost of X-Ray?
On Monday, February 3, 2003, 6:55 PM, you wrote: PC without looking at the README, will it work if I'm already using PC mercury32 as an SMTP and POP3 server? MD Yes. I'm testing it there and it seems to work ok. well, I have X-ray setup, and mail is going through xray, but it isn't really DOING anything.. now how do I change the X-mailer info.. -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cost of X-Ray?
On Monday, February 3, 2003, 7:01 PM, you wrote: AM That was just the generic setup. You can then add your filters. AM Under the filters tab: AM Right click the filter list area and select 'Add' AM Filter Type: SMTP AM Filter Action: Delete (drop down menu selection) AM Kludge Name: X-Mailer (drop down menu selection) AM That's all if you wish to delete it. AM If you wish to replace it, choose 'replace' from the filter AM actions list and type the replacement value in the 'Kludge AM Value' field. that's what I DID... but I sent myself a test message, and it didn't change the xmailer field.. -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cost of X-Ray?
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PC well, I have X-ray setup, and mail is going through xray, but it
PC isn't really DOING anything.. now how do I change the X-mailer
PC info..
Your X-Mailer currently is 'My PC!!'. Looks like X-Ray deserves that
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Re: Cost of X-Ray?
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PC that's what I DID... but I sent myself a test message, and it didn't
PC change the xmailer field..
Look at the X-Mailer header for the messages you've posted to the
list, i.e., the copy of the messages sent back to you. The X-Mailer
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Re: Cost of X-Ray?
On Tuesday, February 4, 2003, 6:59 AM, you wrote: PC that's what I DID... but I sent myself a test message, and it didn't PC change the xmailer field.. AM Look at the X-Mailer header for the messages you've posted to the AM list, i.e., the copy of the messages sent back to you. The X-Mailer AM header is changed in them. yeah!!! I don't get it, my own test message didn't change.. oh well, it's working now!! now I have to change that port in all of my accounts.. I wish there was a global replace function:) -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cost of X-Ray?
On Tuesday, February 4, 2003, 6:57 AM, you wrote: PC well, I have X-ray setup, and mail is going through xray, but it PC isn't really DOING anything.. now how do I change the X-mailer PC info.. AM Your X-Mailer currently is 'My PC!!'. Looks like X-Ray deserves that AM credit. so, I can ADD info in those placeshmm... but no one LOOKS at full header info these days. -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cost of X-Ray?
Hi Paul, on Tue, 4 Feb 2003 07:17:46 -0500GMT (04.02.03, 13:17 +0100GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : AM Look at the X-Mailer header for the messages you've posted to the AM list, i.e., the copy of the messages sent back to you. The X-Mailer AM header is changed in them. PC yeah!!! I don't get it, my own test message didn't change.. Maybe you have Allow local delivery checked under Options -- Network Administration? -- Cheers Peter 'There are two major products that come out of Berkeley; LSD and BSD Unix. We don't believe this to be a coincidence.' Winamp currently playing: - silence - Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Cost of X-Ray?
Hello Paul Cartwright, On or about Tuesday, February 04, 2003 at 07:17:46GMT -0500 (which was 7:17 AM in the tropics where I live) Paul Cartwright said: PC yeah!!! I don't get it, my own test message didn't change.. PC oh well, it's working now!! TB! sends mail to any account registered to the local system DIRECTLY by placing the message in the proper folder and using any appropriate filter, so X-Ray has no chance to change it! :^) I noticed this when try to test a mail server, but the messages never went through it. I have to go to a webmail interface to test that due to this 'feature' of TB!!! PC now I have to change that port in all of my accounts.. I wish there was PC a global replace function:) A global function would mess up accounts for different SMTPO servers which would create more problems than it would solve in MOST cases! -- Warmest tropical wishes, Spike The worst thing about censorship is . -- /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign - Against HTML Mail \ / If it aint a webpage it shouldn't be HTML. XSay NO! to bloatmail - ban HTML mail! / \ Ask Spikey, he hates everything (HTML). -- Using TheBat! v1.61 hamstrung by Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 -- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cost of X-Ray?
Hello Spike, On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 08:21:50 -0500 GMT (04/02/03, 20:21 +0700 GMT), Spike wrote: I noticed this when try to test a mail server, but the messages never went through it. I have to go to a webmail interface to test that due to this 'feature' of TB!!! The feature of local delivery is optional. I have it turned off. If I want to send a message to myself, I usually want it to go via the servers, either for testing purposes or because I want it to be available by webmail access later on. An example is for latter case is that, since I don't have a printer, if I need to print out a message or an attachment, I send it to myself and print it out at an internet cafe. If I just want to move a message from one of my accounts to another one, I use the move or copy functions of TB. I never really understood the usefulness of the local delivery option. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Klaus Toppmoeller: Ich musste meine Jungs ins kalte Feuer werfen. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cost of X-Ray?
Hi, Thomas Fernandez wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I never really understood the usefulness of the local delivery option. I guess it is useful in a multi-user environment where the Bat functions as mail gateway (in the so-called Client mode and/or Server mode). Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cost of X-Ray?
Hi Thomas and list, On Tuesday, February 4, 2003 at 23:14:57 GMT +0700 (which was 17:14 where I live) Thomas Fernandez wrote (at least in parts) and made these valuable points on the subject of Cost of X-Ray?: I never really understood the usefulness of the local delivery option. You will, when you come to paying for a TB-Network installation with an expansive dial-up connection bg! -- Regards Michael powered by The BAT! 1.63 Beta/5 with usual problems of Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cost of X-Ray?
ON Tuesday, February 4, 2003, 5:14:57 PM, you wrote: TF If I just want to move a message from one of my accounts to another TF one, I use the move or copy functions of TB. I never really understood TF the usefulness of the local delivery option. Hi Thomas, People will use it for different purposes but I use it to re-direct mail to an other account were I then work with it furter. If you just copy the msg all the headers stay the same. I always have it on, I do not need to test email servers ;-) -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Mortimer, I have deceived you ! l have never played golf in my life ! I dont even know how to hold the caddie! ==P.G Wodehouse - SUNDERED HEARTS == Using The Bat! v1.62h on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cost of X-Ray?
On Tuesday, February 4, 2003, 8:19 AM, you wrote: PC yeah!!! I don't get it, my own test message didn't change.. PM Maybe you have Allow local delivery checked under Options -- Network PM Administration that was it, someone else mentioned the local delivery option.. At least I know the answer!! -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cost of X-Ray?
Hello Gerard, On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 19:37:08 +0100 GMT (05/02/03, 01:37 +0700 GMT), Gerard wrote: TF If I just want to move a message from one of my accounts to another TF one, I use the move or copy functions of TB. I never really understood TF the usefulness of the local delivery option. People will use it for different purposes but I use it to re-direct mail to an other account were I then work with it furter. If you just copy the msg all the headers stay the same. That is for me the exact reason to copy it rather than to redirect. ;-) And thanks to all who explained that this feature is useful in a networked environment. I have used TB only on a stand-alone, so I didn't think into that direction. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. COMMITTEE: A body that keeps minutes and wastes hours. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cost of X-Ray?
On Monday, February 3, 2003, 7:16:16 AM, Peter Meyns wrote: With X-ray you can alter, remove, or add e-mail headers. Look at my X-mailer header for example. :-) The other use of X-Ray is to manage SMTP message routing. For example, on my laptop, I can connect and send mail either from my home email account via a DSL connection, from the office via the office network, or via my mobile phone to a dial-up account. X-Ray automatically sorts out which SMTP server to use depending on the IP address I am connected to. Very clever! Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Cost of X-Ray?
Hello Peter, Monday, February 3, 2003, 9:16:16 AM, you wrote: PM With X-ray you can alter, remove, or add e-mail headers. Look at my PM X-mailer header for example. :-) If I want to Redirect message to someone, is there any way The Bat! or X-ray can remove/modify the X-Sender string? I have tried it with X-ray but unsuccessfully. -- -=Robert Beata Golovniov | Lviv, Ukraine=- ~~ PGP key: 633F6D07 (1A1C 29F1 2A0C 4C4E 0BDA C8EE 5A1D 9F03 633F 6D07) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP%20KeyBody=Embedded%20key mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=GPG%20KeyBody=Attached%20key ~~ Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cost of X-Ray?
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Robert Golovniov [RG] wrote:'
RG If I want to Redirect message to someone, is there any way The Bat!
RG or X-ray can remove/modify the X-Sender string? I have tried it with
RG X-ray but unsuccessfully.
I don't see why it wouldn't work. You should be able to delete the
X-Sender.
I would create a new filter rule:
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Re: Cost of X-Ray?
On Monday, February 3, 2003, 2:16 AM, you wrote: JH what does this program do for you, that you can't do with Da Brat, err JH The Bat? :-) PM With X-ray you can alter, remove, or add e-mail headers. Look at my PM X-mailer header for example. :-) is the only reason you use it to get rid of TB! in the X-mailer header? -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cost of X-Ray?
Hi Paul, on Mon, 3 Feb 2003 07:31:18 -0500GMT (03.02.03, 13:31 +0100GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : PM With X-ray you can alter, remove, or add e-mail headers. Look at my PM X-mailer header for example. :-) PC is the only reason you use it to get rid of TB! in the X-mailer PC header? Let's say it's the only thing I actually use. In fact, I'm just interested to see what can be done, so I'm playing around with X-ray. I wouldn't say I need it... ;-) -- Cheers Peter Sex is never the answer. Sex is the question. And the answer is YES! Winamp currently playing: Dire Straits - Brothers In Arms Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cost of X-Ray?
On Monday, February 3, 2003, 12:09 PM, you wrote: PM With X-ray you can alter, remove, or add e-mail headers. Look at my PM X-mailer header for example. :-) PC is the only reason you use it to get rid of TB! in the X-mailer PC header? PM Let's say it's the only thing I actually use. In fact, I'm just PM interested to see what can be done, so I'm playing around with X-ray. I PM wouldn't say I need it... ;-) without looking at the README, will it work if I'm already using mercury32 as an SMTP and POP3 server? -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cost of X-Ray?
ON Monday, February 3, 2003, 6:55:30 PM, you wrote: PC without looking at the README, will it work if I'm already using PC mercury32 as an SMTP and POP3 server? Hi Paul, Without looking at the mercury32 readme I would say yes. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Go ahead and putt, you are not interrupting my conversation. Using The Bat! v1.62h on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cost of X-Ray?
Hi Paul, on Mon, 3 Feb 2003 12:55:30 -0500GMT (03.02.03, 18:55 +0100GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : PC without looking at the README, will it work if I'm already using PC mercury32 as an SMTP and POP3 server? I can't say anything about this as I don't have my own server installed. However there should be savvy members who could jump in here. I'd be interested too. :-) -- Cheers Peter If privacy is outlawed, only outlaws will have privacy. Winamp currently playing: Hawkwind - The Forge Of Vulcan Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Cost of X-Ray?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ref Your E-mail: Subj: Content-type Dated: Sunday, 11/16/2002, 07:23 AM Msg ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] G'day Allie In your e-mail you noted: - - ACM You can have a look at X-Ray here: http://www.xrayapp.com/ ACM ...You can have X-Ray adjust the headers for particular messages ACM based on conditions you define. - - Using the URL you noted above I couldn't determine the cost of the program. What is the cost and do you use the program yourself? - -- Cordially Kara[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt - Build 08 (Windows ME and The Bat! 1.62.i) Comment: Public Key: http://home.earthlink.net/~karadenizi/pgp.htm iQA/AwUBPj3Fn9eZPtS90TuQEQJX2ACfSMbcPKMEUJG7KQFP2RpjFgXjjzoAoMNG sfTlBWuzzPkhR6wDLVO3nChG =I0A7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cost of X-Ray?
Hello Kara, On Sun, 2 Feb 2003 20:28:28 -0500 GMT (03/02/03, 08:28 +0700 GMT), Kara Denizi wrote: Using the URL you noted above I couldn't determine the cost of the program. What is the cost and do you use the program yourself? AFAIK, Xray is free. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Bei Vollmond spricht man nicht. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cost of X-Ray?
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Re:Cost of X-Ray?
Hello Allie, Monday, February 3, 2003, 5:22:02 AM, you wrote: In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Kara Denizi [KD] wrote:' KD Using the URL you noted above I couldn't determine the cost of the KD program. What is the cost and do you use the program yourself? It's free and yes, I do use it personally. Hola Allie, what does this program do for you, that you can't do with Da Brat, err The Bat? :-) -- Gruß, Jurgenmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cost of X-Ray?
Hi Jurgen, on Mon, 3 Feb 2003 07:29:35 +0100GMT (03.02.03, 07:29 +0100GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : JH what does this program do for you, that you can't do with Da Brat, err JH The Bat? :-) With X-ray you can alter, remove, or add e-mail headers. Look at my X-mailer header for example. :-) -- Cheers Peter If you ate pasta and antipasta, would you still be hungry? Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
X-Ray error message.
Hi all, Sorry, I'm not sure if this is off-topic or not, so therefore I've sent it to both lists. Sorry Mr Moderators. :-) I've been using X-Ray for about a week now and for some reason, every now and again, this error message appears; FETCH - Server reports error. The response is: -ERR X-Ray: The attempt to connect was forcefully rejected. Anyone else experience this? Any ideas what's causes it and how to fix it? I hope someone can help. Cheers, -- Chris Created Using The Bat! V1.62 Christmas Edition E-Mail Client. Virus Checked by DrWeb. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: how to setup and use the bat! with x-ray mail assistant
Hello Claude, On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 at 19:13:35 you wrote: CR Hi everybody, CR I recently downloaded x-ray from x-ray application software. CR I would like to use this product because I have more pop3 accounts I don't understood why you don't let The Bat! retrieve them ;) To help you to setup x-ray, read: msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or have a look at http://www.xrayapp.com/xray/help.htm -- Regards, Alain [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! 1.62/Beta6 Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: how to setup and use the bat! with x-ray mail assistant
Hello Claude, On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 19:13:35 +0200 GMT (23/10/02, 00:13 +0700 GMT), Claude Renaud wrote: But I have a big problem : I don't know how to set up neither x-ray There is a how-to instruction on the website. You can download it, I found it very useful. nor the bat! so that the first interact with the second. It's in that how-to file. IIRC you have to set the server to localhost. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Reden ist Schweigen, Silber ist Gold. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: how to setup and use the bat! with x-ray mail assistant
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bonjour Thomas Fernandez Le mardi 22 octobre 2002, 20:14:04, vous avez écrit : Hello Claude, On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 19:13:35 +0200 GMT (23/10/02, 00:13 +0700 GMT), Claude Renaud wrote: But I have a big problem : I don't know how to set up neither x-ray There is a how-to instruction on the website. You can download it, I found it very useful. Can you give me the exact url please ? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0-nr2 (Windows XP) iQD1AwUBPbWmUCx/1ToFepctAQJLUwb/d6UxfY0TEYUQvb0hzYuChi/oAK/M/wc8 T3gOa13AdJkf2Ws1SJVTHeRVE6mv9W7SlVZ+XRQCsKkFE2oNW0O0G7jdq9SaTPJp hLUXJn8+zV+vTWfe4yGQnJoDf0ZUl79YIvXkRDJnym7FIemly3PWb4T+bigEbkYc rY3gXlqB3/xMqIXp/oxp1KsvitGPUFrfu3u3f69hIrT02o5llydFeqsoGDdMIJYa s8ANQdgnPvpGLHofA5RXG9qq4tro89xAzpHAASHHhq8oCaRoP3O6KIfXTAjMSEU8 GiTv1zHROuc= =29GU -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse yahoo.fr gratuite et en français ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: how to setup and use the bat! with x-ray mail assistant
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In mid:65412462.20021022191335;yahoo.fr, Claude Renaud [CR] wrote:' CR I recently downloaded x-ray from x-ray application software. CR CR But I have a big problem : I don't know how to set up neither CR x-ray nor the bat! so that the first interact with the second. CR Do some of you use this sofware ? Could somebody help me to CR achieve this ? Once you understand how it works, you'll have no problem setting it up. X-Ray acts as a intermediary server between TB! and the remote server. In this case it would be your POP server. X-Ray collects mail from the server and then TB! collects the mail from X-Ray. However, it's TB! that tells X-Ray when to collect mail and then TB! will immediately collect the mail from X-Ray as X-ray receives it since X-Ray doesn't have anywhere to store the mail once it receives it. For X-Ray to communicate with the remote POP server, you have to configure it to connect to port 110 on the remote server since this is the standard port for POP. However, you're flexible with what ports to use within the scope of your machine when it's time for TB! to interact with with X-Ray. You just have to indicate which port to use. TB! --- port # --- XRay ---port 110--- Remote POP server of choice With that background, do the following: a) Setup the remote POP servers by going to the Servers tab. Right click the servers list area and then select 'Add'. Select POP and then put in your remote server name and logon credentials. Leave the remote server port setting at 110. b) The local port setting is critical and a lot of flexibility is achieved here. The local port setting will be the port that TB! needs to connect to so that it can get the mail from X-Ray. It's possible to use the same local port number for all the remoter POP servers. In this way you can download all mail from all the remote servers to a single POP account. However, you'll have to enable the 'POP cyclic change' (under the 'Settings' tab). What this does is change from one remote POP server to another each time TB! polls for mail. In this way a different remote server is checked whenever TB! does a mail check. So for all those who wish to download mail from multiple remote POP accounts to a single TB! account, XRay provides a neat solution. You may wish to download mail for each remote POP account to its own TB! account. If you're doing this, you'll need to set a different local PORT for each configured server. In this way mail from each remote server will be conveyed to separate TB! accounts over their own ports. You don't need to have a cyclic change of ports with such a setup. When choosing what ports to use, avoid port numbers below 1024 since these are usually designated for special use. Good safe port numbers can be between 10,000 and 15,000. You can use one for each server. Finally, you can do a combination of both, i.e., download mail from more than one server to a single account and then download mail from the other servers to another or separate accounts each. On TB!'s side. For each account the POP server to enter is actually XRay which resides on your machines own IP. You can enter there, either 'localhost' or 127.0.0.1 . For the name and password, use that for the remote server. You should now be up and running. There's a lot of documentation on the Kludge filtering and the setup of the message filtering seems pretty straightforward. - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta7 WinXP Pro (SP1) List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1rc1 (Win32) - GPGshell v2.60 iD8DBQE9tamdV8nrYCsHF+IRAs1SAKD3rBU8KLEbIqhmqXa4rf5XuWrQjACfbcWq mG1c9tN4l9cFVBmNwTd/x/I= =6y18 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: how to setup and use the bat! with x-ray mail assistant
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo Allie, On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 14:40:14 -0500 your time, you authored this: [shnipps...] ACM TB! --- port # --- XRay ---port 110--- Remote POP server ACMof choice And for anyone that wants to use X-Ray and another local SMTP/POP3 server (to take advantage of the Kludge filtering features of X-Ray like I do) you simple change the remote ports in X-Ray and your SMTP/POP3 server to a higher number. Eg. * TB! SMTP = your machine's IP or 127.0.0.1 or localhost * TB! POP = your machine's IP or 127.0.0.1 or localhost | V * X-Ray local SMTP = 25 REMOTE SMTP = 26 * X-Ray local POP = 110 REMOTE POP = 111 | V * SMTP/POP3 server (like Argosoft or Mercury) SMTP listen on Port 26 * SMTP/POP3 server (like Argosoft or Mercury) POP listen on Port 111 You can then filter Kludges and take advantage of a more sophisticated local SMTP/POP3 server. - -- Slán, Simon theycallmesimon.co.uk ___ Faffing about with TB! v1.61 on W2K SP3 PGP Key: http://pgp.netbanger.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Privacy is freedom. Protect your privacy with PGP! Comment: KeyID: 0x5C7E8966 Comment: Fingerprint: 851C F927 0296 FF1C 70A2 474F CB6E 6FFE 5C7E 8966 iQA/AwUBPbWyV8tub/5cfolmEQI8nwCgiFt556ROdhiP2XWpkG+veehdI8QAn33L 2Z8ls+6eSvvOCUupX5SVDHhP =yCBi -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: how to setup and use the bat! with x-ray mail assistant
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Simon On 22 October 2002 at 21:17:14 +0100 (which was 21:17 where I live) Simon wrote ... * X-Ray local SMTP = 25 REMOTE SMTP = 26 * X-Ray local POP = 110 REMOTE POP = 111 Erm it is best to use a non standard port for local ports and standard ports for remote ports. And I would not use port 111 as it is a known port. info from services file. service name port number/protocol [aliases...] [#comment] sunrpc111/tcprpcbind portmap#SUN Remote Procedure Call sunrpc111/udprpcbind portmap#SUN Remote Procedure Call - -- Thank you for your time, ___ David | SecureBat! 1.61 | E-mailaholics | _| Win 2K Server 5.0.2195 SP2 | International | | I love you, you love me, don'tcha want a frontal lobotomy? | ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt http://www.ipgpp.com/ iQA/AwUBPbW28PmK8eZlD0U0EQK54ACg1nRm74cJ3kEBIE0zx3vbwoqf2DQAn1wS mODi8WjdF9ha5H9jxRBHV7Pi =BgyA -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: how to setup and use the bat! with x-ray mail assistant
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo David, On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 21:37:04 +0100 your time, you authored this: snip DE Erm it is best to use a non standard port for local ports and standard DE ports for remote ports. Yeah, bit sloppy, but that's because it doesn't matter to me as I'm sitting behind a router and don't intend on opening up for public use. I'm listening on local interfaces only :) But yes, fair enough for everyone else, and it is proper ;) DE And I would not use port 111 as it is a known port. Oops! Quite right. I didn't check that one. So I'll need to change that to 1100 then :) - -- Slán, Simon theycallmesimon.co.uk ___ Faffing about with TB! v1.61 on W2K SP3 PGP Key: http://pgp.netbanger.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Privacy is freedom. Protect your privacy with PGP! Comment: KeyID: 0x5C7E8966 Comment: Fingerprint: 851C F927 0296 FF1C 70A2 474F CB6E 6FFE 5C7E 8966 iQA/AwUBPbXH28tub/5cfolmEQJPtwCgtV7rYAuCpyi10ll2Axi3qB/jXyMAoNsT TMZbLQQPtdJVJPiRNZG+6Jpu =F+7u -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
how to setup and use the bat! with x-ray mail assistant
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi everybody, I recently downloaded x-ray from x-ray application software. I would like to use this product because I have more pop3 accounts and I would like to retrieve all my e-mails in the easiest way and x-ray seems to be the best solution : I saw that this product was dedicated to work with e-mail clients such as the bat! (particularly). But I have a big problem : I don't know how to set up neither x-ray nor the bat! so that the first interact with the second. Do some of you use this sofware ? Could somebody help me to achieve this ? - -- Greetings, Claude Renaud E-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailer The Bat! version 1.62/Beta6 Serial number : C4C1C7D5 Windows XP Version : 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0-nr2 (Windows XP) iQD1AwUBPbWHQix/1ToFepctAQIXMAb7BlNb1YYQegTTOw5+O7TmHDVQwXkcb+Wx 3GaNxF1Jsqi4j9oZE70CE7S+WqmNiTazjrr8M7pU1VCwTkzaDSB8CFgTVSGBfL3B x8W+Gg/CuK2gCrv7ZCSHY7DRiTb0emzaLJNJv/D6kfmORWM87A4bJ3j1ZmD5b1H0 rnWltgAuqSGbmYw2ivkkkykE6GcCpv0TQzzbC7N0GQBIOXWwlrZVvCOalO4t6qVh t1xLUhR0ixrKKFg2Fwcx2paNoGS72hoyVqsHNxVtessLbasf/q7Mm8LYBgZrtadO pcmQz54m0Ks= =bzSS -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en français ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
X-ray
I believe that you can with x-ray, but I have never tried it. www.xrayapp.com This sounds as a great software to use when installing The Bat! on my notebook which I will use both at work and at home (with the same POP3-server but different SMTP-servers). Does someone here run X-ray and if so; what's your opinion of it? -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/42 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 PGP key ID: 0xFA8188D7 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
