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Hello Deborah, I was expecting the html editor to be useful, because I do occasionally want to send html mail, but tbh I'm disappointed with it. Have you tried Foxmail (it's free) to compose/send your HTML e-mail? On the bright side, the installation, as you say, was a dream - fast simple. That's great news, because I install TB several times a day ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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It seems that MAU said ... M Have you tried Foxmail (it's free) to compose/send your HTML e-mail? Uh-oh. I have the occasional need to send HTML-coded mail, so I did a search for Foxmail. Found it on C|Net, along with some reviews like this: This program will steal your passwords and people will be able to see all your personal information. I contacted the government to investigate this company I would stay clear of this by all means. and this BEWARE!!! Secretly sends your password to malicious hackers! This program is not what it seems. My technical software analysis team has debugged the program and found it to be full of holes and security breaches. It doesn't just install spyware on your system. It also sends your password to most likely malicious hackers. Then a few months when you least suspect, your email account is taken over and un-usable. This program also appears to send your email to multiple advertising companies, hence making you put up with more and more ads in your inbox each day. There have been a number of programs that are silimar to this one, it's only a matter of time before they can be stopped! There were a few positive responses, but many were negative and warned of security problems. Enough to scare me away! -- Bill Blinn Technology Editor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - 9/3/2003 at 7:25 AM Technology Editor, Newsradio 610 WTVN, Columbus, Ohio Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Random thought: Cats must need to use ALL the kitty litter to bury their poop. Featured speaker at PowerPoint Live - Tucson, Arizona October 12-15, 2003 - http://www.pptlive.com/ Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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On Wednesday, September 3, 2003, 3:29:48 AM, MAU wrote: I was expecting the html editor to be useful, because I do occasionally want to send html mail, but tbh I'm disappointed with it. M Have you tried Foxmail (it's free) to compose/send your HTML e-mail? Yes, that's what I've been using. It's slow (or at least, it's slow when you're used to TB) but it does a good job on html mail. I was hoping that with TB v2 I could dump Foxmail, but that's certainly not the case yet. -- Deborah Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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On Wednesday, September 3, 2003, 7:27:47 AM, Bill Blinn Technology Editor wrote: BBTE This program will steal your passwords and people will be able to BBTE see all your personal information. I contacted the government to BBTE investigate this company I would stay clear of this by all means. Hm...what government? It's a Chinese company iirc...I don't think the Chinese gov't is terribly concerned about personal privacy ;-) BBTE and this BBTE BEWARE!!! Secretly sends your password to malicious hackers! BBTE This program is not what it seems. My technical software analysis BBTE team has debugged the program and found it to be full of holes and BBTE security breaches. It doesn't just install spyware on your system. BBTE It also sends your password to most likely malicious hackers. Then BBTE a few months when you least suspect, your email account is taken BBTE over and un-usable. This program also appears to send your email BBTE to multiple advertising companies, hence making you put up with BBTE more and more ads in your inbox each day. There have been a number BBTE of programs that are silimar to this one, it's only a matter of BBTE time before they can be stopped! Interesting. I've been using Foxmail for a couple of years now. I've not had any problems with security, nobody has hacked my account, none of my email accounts has been taken over, I only get spam on the accounts that already got spam before I used Foxmail, I don't get any more spam on those accounts than I already did. BBTE There were a few positive responses, but many were negative and BBTE warned of security problems. Enough to scare me away! H...I just had a look at the negative reviews. There were several which said the same thing, word-for-word, but used different names, which makes me think someone's got an axe to grind G. Then there's the person who says it wouldn't work with Tiny Firewall (it does for me) so he/she had to disable the firewall to send/receive mail (bit of a silly thing to do really...). Then there's the one that says you can't see received html...yes, you can, you just click the html symbol at the top right of the preview pane. Or the one who says he prefers Incredimail. Or the one who complains that when he clicks on an email address on a webpage, it starts Foxmail when he wants to use something else... My personal favourite, though, is the one which says: Plain fact is there is nothing to equal OE. If only my OE would work ROFL! -- Deborah Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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It seems that Deborah W said ... D On Wednesday, September 3, 2003, 7:27:47 AM, Bill Blinn Technology Editor wrote: BBTE This program will steal your passwords and people will be able to BBTE see all your personal information. I contacted the government to BBTE investigate this company I would stay clear of this by all means. Just to clear things up, I did not write that. I quoted comments from C|Net. I have no opinion one way or the other on the application. -- Bill Blinn Technology Editor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - 9/3/2003 at 9:43 AM Technology Editor, Newsradio 610 WTVN, Columbus, Ohio Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Random thought: I'm against any law that I wouldn't break if I could get away with it. -A. Whitney Brown. Featured speaker at PowerPoint Live - Tucson, Arizona October 12-15, 2003 - http://www.pptlive.com/ Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Bill, Uh-oh. I have the occasional need to send HTML-coded mail, so I did a search for Foxmail. Found it on C|Net, along with some reviews like this: snipped a bit If Foxmail sold for US$ 100 reviews would say it was too expensive for what it does. As it is FREE... you know what I mean :) There were a few positive responses, but many were negative and warned of security problems. Enough to scare me away! I assume you don't use any Microsoft products then, right? ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Deborah, Yes, that's what I've been using. I always thought you were smart :-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Bill, BBTE It seems that MAU said ... M Have you tried Foxmail (it's free) to compose/send your HTML e-mail? BBTE Uh-oh. I have the occasional need to send HTML-coded mail, so I did a BBTE search for Foxmail. Found it on C|Net, along with some reviews like BBTE this: BBTE This program will steal your passwords and people will be able to see BBTE all your personal information. I contacted the government to BBTE investigate this company I would stay clear of this by all means. BBTE [snip] Hmn . . . mywebattack's users seem to have a different opinion. http://www.webattack.com/get/foxmail.shtml I'm not a big fan of C|Net, these days, though . . . so I'm always looking for a second opinion . . . I can't speak from personal experience, regarding foxmail. Not recent experience, anyway, I haven't touched it since . . . 98 or 99 or so. And I don't remember having it installed for more than a day. Be well, Allen -- | One of my poems chosen at random specifically for you: | http://jarday.com/recent%20sketches/the%20source.shtml | | Running The_Bat! version 2.00 | Windows XP Service Pack 1 build 2600 -- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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It seems that Allen said ... A Hmn . . . mywebattack's users seem to have a different opinion. A http://www.webattack.com/get/foxmail.shtml A I'm not a big fan of C|Net, these days, though . . . so I'm always A looking for a second opinion . . . Second opinions are often helpful. I'll download it and take a look. The problem with C|Net, I suppose, is that opinions by techno-turnips tend to be given the same weight as those from people who actually know what they're talking about. -- Bill Blinn Technology Editor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - 9/3/2003 at 11:06 AM Technology Editor, Newsradio 610 WTVN, Columbus, Ohio Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Random thought: Thousands of years ago, cats were worshipped as gods. Cats have never forgotten this.' Anonymous. Featured speaker at PowerPoint Live - Tucson, Arizona October 12-15, 2003 - http://www.pptlive.com/ Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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On Wednesday, September 3, 2003, 9:45:05 AM, Bill Blinn Technology Editor wrote: BBTE Just to clear things up, I did not write that. I quoted comments BBTE from C|Net. I have no opinion one way or the other on the BBTE application. Oh, I know you were quoting the cnet comments...I just found some of them very amusing (still lol over the plain fact is there is nothing to equal OE one - no, I suppose not, if your aim is get viruses G) -- Deborah Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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On Wednesday, September 03, 2003, Bill Blinn Technology Editor wrote... [..] techno-turnips [..] hahaha... I love that term. Very nice ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) My mind is not for rent / To any god or government pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Deborah, On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 09:36:15 -0400 GMT (03/09/2003, 20:36 +0700 GMT), Deborah W wrote: My personal favourite, though, is the one which says: Plain fact is there is nothing to equal OE. If only my OE would work LOL! I love this. ducking from incoming trout -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Sign in a shop: Open 24 hours a day, longer on weekends. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Allister Jenks, [AJ] wrote: AJ Excellent! However, some questions. AJ 1) Is it ready for prime time? ie. stable? For prerelease software, this is unpredictable. Some of us may have problems while others don't. In fact, this remains the case even after release though the problems should be much less. Try it at your own risk. I'd be irresponsible for saying otherwise. Let's just say that I've personally been using all the betas and haven't lost any mail. I haven't had any showstopping experiences either. Many others will surely confess a similar experience. It's up to you to take the plunge. :) Note that I've been using only POP3 accounts and haven't been using the new IMAP support. If you're looking for problem free usage, then I'd definitely wait for the full release version before trying IMAP. AJ 3) Is the upgrade straightforward? For POP accounts, yes. If you're using IMAP accounts, you'll have to first convert them to POP before upgrading. You'll then have to create new IMAP accounts and then transfer your mail over to the new IMAP accounts. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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On Monday, September 01, 2003, Deborah W wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: DW If I download install v2 decide to go back to 1.62r, can I? Or DW will I need to re-install 1.62 from scratch? Deborah, The file structure is different, and you would not be able to use the 1.62 program with files that were adapted by the 2.0 program. My recollection is that there were some messages on the Beta mailing list about what to do if you want to revert back, but I do not recall any details. You could search the Beta list archives, or wait for Marck or another expert to offer up more detailed help. -- JN Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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A Bat-fellow, Allister Jenks, wrote on Tuesday, 2nd September 2003 at 10:10:43 (GMT +1200), which was 0:10 a.m. in Bratislava -- AJ 1) Is it ready for prime time? ie. stable? I have had no time to participate in Beta cycles after 1.61. However, when version 2.0 Final came out earlier this evening, the temptation was too much, so after backing up all of my 10 accounts with 63000+ messages through the Maintenance Center, I went ahead and upgraded. AJ 2) If I install it, is my wife going to have trouble using it, after AJ being used to 1.xx, and not being technically minded? No trouble at all. Version 2 looks much the same as 1.61 did, despite the new default set of icons. I do like the new set of icons, incidentally, unlike many users on the Bat lists. (The icons may strike you as too gray after you got used to all the yellows in version 1.xx. Yellow is gone in Version 2.) AJ 3) Is the upgrade straightforward? That's the word for it. Everything* has been restored perfectly and everything is in its place. The upgrade took me about 30 seconds (excluding the speedy download of Version 2 from http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/the_bat.exe ). * an exception: something that has not worked for me recently, even when restoring accounts from a CD backup, is the restoration of Address Book Groups -- only the Main Personal Address Book gets restored here from a CD backup or after upgrading to Version 2, with all email addresses from former Groups indiscriminately dumped in it. So in order not to lose your Groups, simply copy the *.ABD and *.INI files from your The Bat!\MAIL\ folder to a temporary folder prior to upgrading. Then, when in Version 2.0, should you find that your Groups are gone, in the Address Book go to: File -- Load Address Book Set..., and find your Addrbook.INI file previously copied from your 1.xx TB! version. That will restore the former status quo. As I said, this is not a Version 2 issue, as I had to do the same thing with v1.61 when I reformatted my hard-drive a few weeks ago. Incidentally, the restoration of all mail data, including numerous user-specific settings, via the Maintenance Centre from a single *.tbk file of about 120 MB size, worked like a charm. Deborah W asks: DW What are the highlights of v2? After reading all the sceptical opinions about v2 betas on the TBBETA list, I doubted whether it would be necessary for me to upgrade. The big improvement in v2 is supposed to be full working IMAP, which I don't use. However, the few hours that I've been using version 2 have convinced me that v2 is worth paying the price for upgrade. There are lots of cosmetic improvements and bug-fixes in version 2 compared to 1.61 that I wouldn't want to live without any longer. Such as, oattachments to messages can be displayed at the bottom of the preview pane, as small icons (rather than on the left as huge icons) ofinally, if you have more than one message open for editing, your customized keyboard shortcuts work in all open editor windows instead of in only the one that was opened first othe content of attached *.txt, *.att, and most importantly, *.msg files gets displayed directly in the preview pane after you press CTRL+TAB, so you no longer need to open separate windows to view the content of those attachments. onew centralized Preferences dialog, with new options thrown in onew Folder Maintenance center oenhanced Search, it seems (though I can't seem to be able to find the 1.xx option to search in All Accounts or only in Current Account) onew Scheduler -- haven't tested it yet oif you decide to view Kludges in v2's Preview Window, Word-Wrap is finally applied to them (as in TB! 1.5x, later lost in 1.6x, now restored) oin v2 you can use Message Header Fields data directly in your reply templates via new (and customizable) Message Header macros ogenerally speaking, version 2 feels very stable, is super-fast and so, a joy to work with. Concerning Message Header fields data, could anyone help with the following: Is it possible to get to the message header pane via the keyboard only, without clicking with the mouse? It is often useful to copy data from the message header, but having to use the mouse for accessing the message header pane above the preview pane is time-consuming. Thank you. -- Yours, Alex. of Slovakia www.avenarius.sk [flying with The Bat! 2.00 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A amd k6-2 500 mhz processor with 128 mb ram] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Avenarius, oenhanced Search, it seems (though I can't seem to be able to find the 1.xx option to search in All Accounts or only in Current Account) Right mouse click 'Select all' or 'Cntl+A'. -- Best regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Joseph, The file structure is different, and you would not be able to use the 1.62 program with files that were adapted by the 2.0 program. Not totally correct for Pop accounts. The folder structure has changed. I have specifically asked this question to Stefan in the past with regard to 1.62 vs 1.63. V2 is basically 1.63 with fixes and some new updates. IIRC the only problem is with the folder structure getting out of sync, otherwise you can run 1.62 1.63 on the same mail base which I believe should apply to v2. If you add a new folder in one version, then you will have to do manually in the other version. Again the above only applies to Pop accounts. Don't ask me about IMAP because I don't really use IMAP accounts. -- Best regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Avenarius, On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 02:33:44 +0200 GMT (02/09/2003, 07:33 +0700 GMT), Avenarius wrote: However, the few hours that I've been using version 2 have convinced me that v2 is worth paying the price for upgrade. There are lots of cosmetic improvements and bug-fixes in version 2 compared to 1.61 that I wouldn't want to live without any longer. Such as, [snipped] This was the best summary so far. I have parked your message, as the question why pay for upgrade is sure to be asked again and again over the coming weeks. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. CIRCUMVENT: Opening in the front of boxer shorts Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Avenarius, Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 2:33:44 AM, you wrote: A However, the few hours that I've been using version 2 have convinced A me that v2 is worth paying the price for upgrade. There are lots of A cosmetic improvements and bug-fixes in version 2 compared to 1.61 that A I wouldn't want to live without any longer. Such as, Can you (or someone else) confirm that Bayesian filtering made it into the final 2.0 version? I tried to look for this info on the ritlabs site but I could not find any reference. Frank -- Best regards, FJ de Bruin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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On Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 10:04:14 AM, FJ de Bruin wrote: FdB Can you (or someone else) confirm that Bayesian filtering made it into FdB the final 2.0 version? FdB I tried to look for this info on the ritlabs site but I could not find FdB any reference. Ritlabs gives a link to this information from the Russian version of TheBat! page. I think it is just the matter of time until the Enlish information appears there as well. -- -=Robert Beata Golovniov | Lviv, Ukraine=- ~~ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Body=Embedded%20key mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Body=Attached%20key ~~ Raise your eyes high up and see. Who has created these things? (Isaiah 40:26) Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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On Tuesday, 2 September 2003, at 7:04:14 p.m., FJ de Bruin wrote: Can you (or someone else) confirm that Bayesian filtering made it into the final 2.0 version? Having just taken the plunge and upgraded, I can give you the following text from the help topic About Spam... The Bat! offers an interface for installing self learning anti-spam plug-ins. How to install and use them in The Bat you can learn in the Using Anti-spam plug-ins topic. ...and under the Using Anti-spam plug-ins topic... The Bat! offers an interface for installing anti-spam plug-ins. Each message you receive has score from 0 to 100 if it spam or not, and if points are above minimum that you set in preferences it is moved a Junk Mails Folder. To determine a message as Junk or not in The Bat! you can use Mark As Junk and Mar as NOT Junk oprions from Specials sub-menu. In order to use Anti spam support firstly you have to install anti-spam plug-in with self learning facilities. To install a plug-in, open Preferences dialog from the Options | Preferences menu and in the preferences tree click at Anti-spam leaf. ...and so it goes on. -- Regards, Allister. Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Allister Jenks wrote: Having just taken the plunge and upgraded, I can give you the following text from the help topic About Spam... Does this mean the Help file has been revised? This is a badly needed improvement. Is it any good? -- Paul Richardson Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hi FJ, Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 9:29:05 PM, you wrote: FdB Thanks for this information, guess I will have to be patient for the FdB ritlabs site to come back online. It is up and operational, I have just been there and downloaded v.2. Regards Robyn This e-mail message and accompanying data may contain information that is confidential and subject to privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message or data is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately and delete all material pertaining to this e-mail. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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It seems that FJ de Bruin said ... F Thanks for this information, guess I will have to be patient for the F ritlabs site to come back online. It's back now. I gave the site my credit card information last night and this morning I'm fully registered. The 30-day-trial counter re-set itself to 30 days on 9/1 -- at least on my computer -- so I could have waited a bit. -- Bill Blinn Technology Editor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - 9/2/2003 at 7:40 AM Technology Editor, Newsradio 610 WTVN, Columbus, Ohio Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Featured speaker at PowerPoint Live - Tucson, Arizona October 12-15, 2003 - http://www.pptlive.com/ Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hi Allister, Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 5:49:23 PM, you wrote: AJ In order to use Anti spam support firstly you have to install AJ anti-spam plug-in with self learning facilities. To install a plug-in, AJ open Preferences dialog from the Options | Preferences menu and in the AJ preferences tree click at Anti-spam leaf. I have looked under Option | Preferences and clicked on Anti-spam but when I click Add there doesn't appear to be any Plug-In file available. Am I suppose to download an Anti-spam plug-in or does this refer to Third Party plug-ins? I have probably overlooked something VERY obvious and therefore I apologise in advance. Regards Robyn Winter Melbourne Australia This e-mail message and accompanying data may contain information that is confidential and subject to privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message or data is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately and delete all material pertaining to this e-mail. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello FJ, Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 2:04:14 AM, you wrote: FdB Can you (or someone else) confirm that Bayesian filtering made it into FdB the final 2.0 version? FdB I tried to look for this info on the ritlabs site but I could not find FdB any reference. Work continues on the Bayesian plug in. It is not included, though. You do have to go out and get it separately. Also the docs have not been improved yet. -- Best regards, MikeDmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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== Reply to your email of Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 10:37:33 PM == FdB Can you (or someone else) confirm that Bayesian filtering made it into FdB the final 2.0 version? Work continues on the Bayesian plug in. It is not included, though. You do have to go out and get it separately. Also the docs have not been improved yet. Hello MikeD, I use a beautiful little peice of software (for Bayesian Spam filtering) that works well with TB (or any mail client) its called K9. You can get it from www.keir.net/k9.html oh yeah... its free :-) The Sept-2003 Australian PCUser magazine compared 9 anti-spam software products. Of the ones that were not list-based, it scored mid-field with false-negatives at 17% (range was 15% - 20%) and it scored best of all on false-positives at 0.1% (range was 0.1% to 4.7%). Enjoy... ;-) -- kind regards, Sean _ Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello MikeD, Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 2:37:33 PM, you wrote: M3 Work continues on the Bayesian plug in. It is not included, though. M3 You do have to go out and get it separately. Could you give me a pointer to where to get this plug-in? I tried to google but everytime, I end up at programs like Spampal, K9, Popfile. While they do the trick, I would prefer a solution that does not need yet another active process on my machine. Frank -- Best regards, FJ de Bruin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Robert, Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 3:29:45 AM, you wrote: RG On Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 10:04:14 AM, FJ de Bruin wrote: FdB Can you (or someone else) confirm that Bayesian filtering made it into FdB the final 2.0 version? FdB I tried to look for this info on the ritlabs site but I could not find FdB any reference. http://klirik.narod.ru/arc/bayesit04c.zip -- Best regards, Dangermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 7:54:22 PM, you wrote: M3 Work continues on the Bayesian plug in. Could you give me a pointer to where to get this plug-in? I tried to google but everytime, I end up at programs like Spampal, K9, Popfile. The Bayesian plugin for TB! can be found at http://klirik.narod.ru/arc/bayesit04c.zip Note that this zip does not include docs. You should find Alexey's explanations in the archive of the tbbeta mailing list. I have not tried his plugin as up to now spampal has served my needs sufficiently. -- cheers, Peter Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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On Monday, September 1, 2003, 8:33:44 PM, Avenarius wrote: A After reading all the sceptical opinions about v2 betas on the TBBETA A list, I doubted whether it would be necessary for me to upgrade. The A big improvement in v2 is supposed to be full working IMAP, which I A don't use. Same here. I've played with v2 a bit now, as you say, there are some nice features. I was expecting the html editor to be useful, because I do occasionally want to send html mail, but tbh I'm disappointed with it. If you highlight text in order to change, for example, the font size, you have to highlight it twice - because as soon as you change one thing, you lose the highlight. And it doesn't appear to be possible to paste html into the editor - I get an error message when I try that. I suspect Ritlabs introduced the html editor in order to appeal to a wider audience, but I don't think this one's going to do it. On the bright side, the installation, as you say, was a dream - fast simple. But while I appreciate that other features are to be added as time goes on, at the minute I'm probably going to stick with the old version, because I can't justify paying for new features I don't need our household income is zero :-/ -- Deborah Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: so is version 2 here yet .... :-)
On Tuesday, 2 September 2003, at 9:13:04 p.m., Paul Richardson wrote: Does this mean the Help file has been revised? This is a badly needed improvement. Is it any good? Um. See topic Anti Spam... Enter topic text here. So, there are still patches to worry about. As for the rest, I actually don't remember much about the old stuff except that I could never easily find what I wanted. Someone else who is more familiar may have to comment... -- Regards, Allister. Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
so is version 2 here yet .... :-)
Hello TBUDL, Hey I'm just impatitent ;) Anytime over the next couple of weeks will be fine... -- kind regards, Sean _ Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 _ Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: so is version 2 here yet .... :-)
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/the_bat.exe It's in the beta dir, but it's the final. Hello TBUDL, Hey I'm just impatitent ;) Anytime over the next couple of weeks will be fine... Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: so is version 2 here yet .... :-)
On Monday, September 1, 2003, 23:02:03, Piet Bossuyt wrote: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/the_bat.exe It's in the beta dir, but it's the final. Note that you'll need a new registration code. -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ http://deepthought.ena.si/ A welfare state is one that assumes responsibility for the health, happiness, and general well being of all its citizens except the taxpayers. -- Boyle's Observation Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: so is version 2 here yet .... :-)
Bonjour Jernej, Le lundi 1 septembre 2003 23:18:19, vous criviez : JS On Monday, September 1, 2003, 23:02:03, Piet Bossuyt wrote: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/the_bat.exe It's in the beta dir, but it's the final. JS Note that you'll need a new registration code. Yeah we need this new registration key, but how to obtain it ? -- Cordialement, ArchYmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: so is version 2 here yet .... :-)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello ArchY, Monday, September 1, 2003, 10:20:50 PM, you wrote: A Yeah we need this new registration key, but how to obtain it ? https://www.cifnet.com/cgi-bin/ritlabs/thebat.html?reg=dGltPTEwNjIyNjQ2OTg M - -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP1O9d1v+PP8p0/caEQIf3ACggmhAafG5W7qqJ+yds6i8GbHU24wAoKFt g98Hi2noZDZ1YAQpleJdrDSE =EaOG -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: so is version 2 here yet .... :-)
On Tuesday, 2 September 2003, at 9:43:12 a.m., Martin Webster wrote: https://www.cifnet.com/cgi-bin/ritlabs/thebat.html?reg=dGltPTEwNjIyNjQ2OTg Excellent! However, some questions. 1) Is it ready for prime time? ie. stable? 2) If I install it, is my wife going to have trouble using it, after being used to 1.xx, and not being technically minded? 3) Is the upgrade straightforward? -- Regards, Allister. Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: so is version 2 here yet .... :-)
On Monday, September 1, 2003, 5:02:03 PM, Piet Bossuyt wrote: PB http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/the_bat.exe PB It's in the beta dir, but it's the final. Questions: What is the price on v2? Student price? Has there been any clarification on the eligibility for the 50% price-break for current users? If I download install v2 decide to go back to 1.62r, can I? Or will I need to re-install 1.62 from scratch? What are the highlights of v2? -- Deborah Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: so is version 2 here yet .... :-)
On Tuesday, 2 September 2003, at 10:38:47 a.m., Deborah W wrote: What is the price on v2? Student price? Has there been any clarification on the eligibility for the 50% price-break for current users? Go look at the registration page mentioned elsewhere in this thread! -- Regards, Allister. Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
