Re:Theading with non standard Subject containing SV:

2001-05-25 Thread Bernhard Kohl

Hello,

  I'm not sure there is a solution using TB! on its own. There are
  some REGEXP to replace AW: with Re: in answering a mail.
 ^
  But what you are trying to do is replacing strings in incoming mail.
  And I was told some time ago that TB! isn't capable of doing that.

  What you can try is a german tool named Hamster with Korrnews
  http://home.knuut.de/tgl/own/hamtools.htm

  which will act as it's own mail and news server and will do the
  replacements.


Bernhard Kohl

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Re[3]: Using Threads

2001-05-25 Thread Serge Skorokhodov

Hello Sergey,

SS The problem may be caused by your POP server that attaches
SS different Message-IDs at different sessions or otherwise
SS modify In-Reply-To fields etc. Thus, the messages are not
SS from the same thread any more:(

SK Sorry for such a huge quantity of numbers.

quite impressive data skipped

SK One more thing to viewing messages in threads. Trying to find
SK the best way to do it I've noticed that when I check View By
SK Reference sometimes I get in the same thread messages with
SK different subjects, let alone those Message-ID's,
SK In-Reply-To's, References.

SK I'm thinking of a kind of bug. 

Guess you're right:( I've looked into my threads after your msg
and it seems a bit strange from time to time:(

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TB PGP 2.6.3i

2001-05-25 Thread Hanspeter Schaffner

Hello,

I have installed PGP v.2.6.3i according to the TB help file and the
PGP manual (I think) but for some reason that I do not know I can only
_sign_ a message (as you can see) but not encrypt it. The PGP files
are in the path and the key-files and randseed.bin is in the pgppaht
variable. TB repports an error but does not
tell me what kind of error. Any ideas?

TIA  Regards

Hanspeter Schaffner

Windowsplatform Windows 95
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Re[2]: suggesting words from the dictionary

2001-05-25 Thread John Phillips


Hello Nick
You wrote  On Wed, 23 May 2001, at 09:11:03 [GMT -0700] (02:11 Australian Eastern 
Time,Thursday):

 I have downloaded the dictionary but can't seem to get the spell checker
 to have a guess at a wrongly spelt word. Hitting the Suggest button
 does nothing. This makes the spell checker only marginally useful 

 Look under SpellChecker/Options/Suggestions in the Message Editor Toolbar,
 and see what you have checked? My SpellChecker works beautifully, so you
 must have a missing element of the SpellChecker. shrug


One major weakness of the Spell Checker - you cannot double click on a
suggestion to use it.  Hope the developers do something about this one
day!

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Re: suggesting words from the dictionary

2001-05-25 Thread A Curtis Martin

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On Fri, 25 May 2001 20:40:45 +1000, John graced us with these comments:

JP One major weakness of the Spell Checker - you cannot double click on a
JP suggestion to use it.  Hope the developers do something about this one
JP day!

Would you expand on that? I have no problem choosing which suggestion to
use and it requires one click only.

TB!'s spellchecker is one of its strong points .. when you have it
working. :-/

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Re[2]: suggesting words from the dictionary

2001-05-25 Thread John Phillips


Hello A
You wrote  On Fri, 25 May 2001, at 06:24:44 [GMT -0500] (21:24 Australian Eastern 
Time,Friday):

 Would you expand on that? I have no problem choosing which suggestion to
 use and it requires one click only.


TB spell checker comes up with suggestions.  If not the first
suggestion I have to select it then press Change.  M$  other spell
checkers (Agent, etc) allow you to double click the chosen word, and
it is used instead of the suspected badly spelt word.

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Re: suggesting words from the dictionary

2001-05-25 Thread A Curtis Martin

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On Fri, 25 May 2001 21:34:04 +1000, John contributed this to our
collective wisdom:

 Would you expand on that? I have no problem choosing which suggestion
 to use and it requires one click only.


JP TB spell checker comes up with suggestions.  If not the first
JP suggestion I have to select it then press Change.  M$  other spell
JP checkers (Agent, etc) allow you to double click the chosen word, and
JP it is used instead of the suspected badly spelt word.

I misunderstood you. I use the automatic checking, not the manual checker.

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X-MDaemon-Deliver-To

2001-05-25 Thread John Phillips

Hello fellow Bat! fans.

I notice the above in my Subject in all TB mailing list mail received
(in the RFC-822 headers).

Doe this mean that our good friends in Indonesia are using MDaemon to
resend the mail  handle the mailing list?


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Re[2]: Theading with non standard Subject containing SV:

2001-05-25 Thread Ottar Grimstad

Hello Bernhard,

Friday, May 25, 2001, 10:00:55 AM, you wrote:

BK  But what you are trying to do is replacing strings in incoming mail.
BK   And I was told some time ago that TB! isn't capable of doing that.

BK   What you can try is a german tool named Hamster with Korrnews
BK   http://home.knuut.de/tgl/own/hamtools.htm

BK   which will act as it's own mail and news server and will do the
BK   replacements.

  I am not sure that the problem is big enough to introduce another
  set of software running continuously on my computer. But if I install
  hamster it will make it possible to change from Agent to Xnews for
  news. So perhaps I shall consider it.

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Re: X-MDaemon-Deliver-To

2001-05-25 Thread Karin Spaink

On 25-05-2001 at 14:04, John Phillips kindly wrote:


 Doe this mean that our good friends in Indonesia are using MDaemon to
 resend the mail  handle the mailing list?

You'd think so:

Received: from mailin9.bigpond.com by dutaint.com
with SMTP (MDaemon.PRO.v4.0.1.R)


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Re: Theading with non standard Subject containing SV:

2001-05-25 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Hello Ottar!

On Friday, May 25, 2001 at 11:57:58 AM you wrote:

 But if I install hamster it will make it possible to change from
 Agent to Xnews for news. So perhaps I shall consider it.

That's quite funny; I first learned of Hamster some years ago from
Agent users trying to set up Agent for more than one news server to
specifically use Agent further. You are the first one I hear from who
does not want to use Agent (esp. with Hamster). ;-)



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Re: X-MDaemon-Deliver-To

2001-05-25 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi John,

On 25 May 2001 at  22:04:10 +1000(which was 13:04 where I live) John
Phillips wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points:

JP I notice the above in my Subject in all TB mailing list mail received
JP (in the RFC-822 headers).

JP Doe this mean that our good friends in Indonesia are using MDaemon
JP to resend the mail  handle the mailing list?

Yes :-). It was one of the influencing factors in moving the list to
Syafril's server in the first place - I use and understand MDaemon
very well myself, having used it and been a member of the BetaTeam
since 1996.

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Re: Theading with non standard Subject containing SV:

2001-05-25 Thread Ottar Grimstad

Hello Dierk,

Friday, May 25, 2001, 3:45:08 PM, you wrote:

DH That's quite funny; I first learned of Hamster some years ago from
DH Agent users trying to set up Agent for more than one news server
DH to specifically use Agent further. You are the first one I hear
DH from who does not want to use Agent (esp. with Hamster). ;-)

  After using The Bat! for mail I find Agent insufficient. Especially
  it lacks the ability to use different templates for newsgroups in
  different languages. I do not know if Xnews is better, but it has no
  off-line mode so I do not want to try it out without Hamster.

  But I guess Marck is going to chase this discussion over into TBOT
  real soon now.
  

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Pop up screen forces user to enter User Name, Password and Domain for EACH account

2001-05-25 Thread Miles Johnson

Dear friends ,

Well, we've been using The Bat for a few days and are still attempting
to tame the beast... We DO like the program but find it most regrettable
to have to put so much work into learning how to use even a little bit
of its obviously great potential (we found CNET's comments in their
otherwise fair and positive 5/23 review of the program to be vast
understatements of a reality that seems to have plagued countless users
for quite a long time, as the TBUL archive shows. CNET says: lacks
wizards for creating filters menu structure is bewildering There's no
wizard to walk you through the chore, just a multitabbed dialog that you
must decipher on your own Tricky to configure etc. Tricky to
configure? No kidding! g The review is at
http://www.cnet.com/software/0-3227888-8-6004206-2.html?tag=st.sw.3227888-8-6004206-1.arrow.3227888-8-6004206-2
for those who are curious.)

Anyhow, I'm writing because something really strange happened yesterday.
There was no computer crash or anything but suddenly The Bat started
asking popping up a small new screen each time we tried to retrieve
mail. Absolutely nothing was changed in the settings, aside from the
check mailbox at start-up feature which was was turned on for each
account (Properties, Options.) Now, unless the modem is already
online, The Bat pops up a screen that forces the user to enter User
Name, Password and Domain for EACH ONE of our many accounts. An
incredible pain! We did cold reboots and checked the Dial-Up settings,
to no mention every possible pull-down menu in The Bat!, to no avail.

What happened? Can we fix this? There seems to be some wonderful people
on this list. I sure hope you can help!

Best,

Miles Johnson
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Re: Pop up screen forces user to enter User Name, Password and Domain for EACH account

2001-05-25 Thread William Moore

Hello Miles,

Friday, May 25, 2001, 8:53:44 PM, you wrote:



MJ What happened? Can we fix this? There seems to be some wonderful people
MJ on this list. I sure hope you can help!

Glad you like TB! Stick with it and you won't regret it.
I've been using it for about a month and will not be
going back to Eudora et al.
I had a similar problem with Eudora (but not with TB!).
I too spent days tearing my hair out until I checked the
password entries on the SERVER. They had become corrupt.
I set them up again and all was fine after that.
Hope this helps. And you are right about the people
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Re[2]: X-MDaemon-Deliver-To

2001-05-25 Thread John Phillips


Hello Marck
You wrote  On Fri, 25 May 2001, at 15:05:25 [GMT +0100] (00:05 Australian Eastern 
Time,Saturday):

 Yes :-). It was one of the influencing factors in moving the list to
 Syafril's server in the first place - I use and understand MDaemon
 very well myself, having used it and been a member of the BetaTeam
 since 1996.

Mark, can you contact me off list re problem with MDaemon at work, if
you have the time?  Thanks.

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Re: Digest (05/24/2001 22:15) Special Issue (#2001-1122)

2001-05-25 Thread Sergey

Hello TBUDL,

Thank you for the reply.

S By the way, it seems that I can't change the subject with quick
S templates -
Of course you can. %SUBJ='New subject'.
Do you use %SUBJ='New subject' or %SUBJ=New subject -
none of them works in Thebat 1.51 in quicktemplates - did you
try it there or you are relying on the fact that it
works in normal templates ?  Or, may be , I am wrong
again.

Thank you,


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How to generate the list of e-mail addresses from the unformatted text file ?

2001-05-25 Thread Sergey

Hello,

Subj?
Task 1. , i.e. I have the list of e-mail addresses where
each address goes on a separate line - can I create a
mass mailing on its basis ?
Task 2.  If there are also some lines with text but
without the addresses - can I filter them out (other
than by old dos trick: find /v @ orig.txt  out.txt)?
Task 3. If there only the domain portion of the
addresses (e.g. yahoo.com) - can I automatically add
webmaster@ bit in front of these domains  to get
something like [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?

Thank you


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sending spam to the trash folder

2001-05-25 Thread Dwight A Corrin

what good does it do to send spam to the trash folder if you have to
visit it before the mail ticker goes away, or if you open a window for
all your new mail?

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How to change the incoming messages ?

2001-05-25 Thread Sergey

Hello,

Subj?  Some of them are too big and I waould like to
delete some bits.  By the way, so many messages in the
list contain pgp signatures - can I exclude them
somehow automatically if I use the digest mode ?  Can
the moderator forbit using them - this is a public list
and there is nothing to hide.

Thank you


Sergey

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Re: sending spam to the trash folder

2001-05-25 Thread Melissa

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DAC what good does it do to send spam to the trash folder if you have to
DAC visit it before the mail ticker goes away, or if you open a window
DAC for all your new mail?

Hello Dwight,

I'm sending Spam to the trash only temporarily - just to be sure that my
new Spam filter isn't trashing mail I actually might want.  After I get
the filter ironed out a bit, I'll set it to delete instead of sending it
to the trash.  I don't use the ticker much, so it's not necessary for me
to visit the trash to make it go away.

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How to view when the message was sent ?

2001-05-25 Thread Sergey

Hello,

Subj?

Thank you


Sergey



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Re: How to view when the message was sent ?

2001-05-25 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello Sergey,

Historians believe that Sat, 26 May 2001 at 07:37 GMT +0400 was when,
Sergey [S] typed the following:

S How to view when the message was sent?

You can BCC it to yourself.  Unfortunately, TB doesn't store the sent
time, only the time that the message was placed in the outbox.
 

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Re: How to generate the list of e-mail addresses from the unformatted text file ?

2001-05-25 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello Sergey,

Historians believe that Fri, 25 May 2001 at 22:59 GMT +0400 was when,
Sergey [S] typed the following:

S Task 1. , i.e. I have the list of e-mail addresses where
S each address goes on a separate line - can I create a
S mass mailing on its basis ?

You can create a new address book or a group and import the list.
Once that's done, you have a couple of options.  What exactly do you
mean by a mass mailing?  By TB's definition, a mass mailing is really
a mail merge, ie, every person gets an individual copy and never sees
the list.

The other meaning could be that you just want a huge list in the To:
or BCC: fields.  The answer to your question is yes in both cases, but
the implementation is slightly different.

Could you please elaborate?

S Task 2.  If there are also some lines with text but
S without the addresses - can I filter them out (other
S than by old dos trick: find /v @ orig.txt  out.txt)?

I don't think anything will be as efficient as the DOS method,
especially since you know the command already.  But have you tried
using the Address Book Import feature?

 Tools - Address Book - File - Import From

S Task 3. If there only the domain portion of the
S addresses (e.g. yahoo.com) - can I automatically add
S webmaster@ bit in front of these domains  to get
S something like [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?

Again, you'd probably want to try playing with a DOS script.  I'm not
sure how to do If statements in DOS.  If you have access to a
UNIX-like interface (e.g. CYGWin), e-mail me off-list and we
can try to set up an appropriate script.

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Re: sending spam to the trash folder

2001-05-25 Thread Thomas

Hello Dwight,

On Fri, 25 May 2001 21:24:36 -0500 GMT (26/05/2001, 10:24 +0800 GMT),
Dwight A Corrin wrote:

DAC what good does it do to send spam to the trash folder if you have to
DAC visit it before the mail ticker goes away, or if you open a window for
DAC all your new mail?

Send it to trash and mark as read at the same time.

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Filter question

2001-05-25 Thread Brandt

Hello tbUDL,

  I have a set of three filters...
 first one sets a colour group to msgs with a specific sender
 2nd moves and copys certain messages to two other folders.
 3rd moves all the rest to a specific folder.

Problem is the last one, my sweep filter isn't working. Filters 1
and 2 both have continue processing set. I end up with the messages
coloured in my main inbox, but not swept into the final folder by the
last filter.

3rd has a blank rule set, and the colour group of choice selected
under the advanced tab

I realize their may be another way to set this up, FWIW i would like to
figure this out to learn from it.

I have a suspicion that I need SOMETHING in the rule set otherwise
I don't know.

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Filter Question

2001-05-25 Thread Brandt

Hello TBUDL,

  One other bit of info on the problem. When I refilter the inbox, all
  the messages end up getting swept into the correct folder

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Re: Filter question

2001-05-25 Thread Thomas

Hello Brandt,

On Fri, 25 May 2001 22:17:27 -0700 GMT (26/05/2001, 13:17 +0800 GMT),
Brandt wrote:

B 3rd has a blank rule set, and the colour group of choice selected
B under the advanced tab

[...]
B I have a suspicion that I need SOMETHING in the rule set otherwise
B I don't know.

Try the following:

String:   @
Location: Kludges
Presence: Yes

This is a catch-all, as I still have to the the email without the @
character somehweere in the header.

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