Re: Still two browser windows opening

2002-04-14 Thread Clive Taylor

14 April 2002, 03:23, you wrote:

  MyIE is archived in about 400 KB. It starts in 4- seconds
 to me (IE in ~10), together with Proxomitron. Difference in speed of
 browsing is even greater. You can download it here and see yourself:
 http://ftp.te.fcu.edu.tw/cpatch/www/myie/source/myie32e.zip
 Size: 392KB, no setup, no messing with registry, no files in system.

This URL doesn't respond. Any others that do work?

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Re: Wrapp justify

2002-04-14 Thread Ian Petersen

Luc,

 I'm trying to use the WRAPJUSTIFY macro

Please don't. Trying to justify raw ASCII text is complete nonsense.
You will only make your messages harder to read for the recipients.

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Re: Still two browser windows opening

2002-04-14 Thread Clive Taylor

14 April 2002, 07:41, you wrote:

 This URL doesn't respond. Any others that do work?

Never mind. I've found the author's home page. It's at:
http://web.qx.net/nemesis2/cover.html and has a full list of features.

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Re: Still two browser windows opening

2002-04-14 Thread Mandara

On Sun, 14 Apr 2002, at 07:41:34  +0100 Clive wrote:

 http://ftp.te.fcu.edu.tw/cpatch/www/myie/source/myie32e.zip
 Size: 392KB, no setup, no messing with registry, no
 files in system.

CT This URL doesn't respond. Any others that do work?

You could try to get in the ftp directory first
http://ftp.te.fcu.edu.tw/cpatch/www/myie/source/, then pick up the
file. There is even smaller one, myie32de.zip 259 KB, without DLLs, for
modern Winblows.

Only other solution is to go at home page and take a challenge with
Chinese language, though it is only kanji (simplified sort of)
http://changyou.mainpage.net/ If you do that, pay attention on
infrequent English and check (by overmousing) the links on the left,
up. If you're speaking Chinese, no problem.

Mandara
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Re[2]: Still two browser windows opening

2002-04-14 Thread Dave Conroy

Hi Mandara,

Sunday, April 14, 2002, 3:23:46 AM, you wrote:

M I've been trying Opera too, for the same reasons, but if you can put
M in reasonable use something already nestled in HD - and even in a
M better way, isn't that a better solution?

I tried it out and found it didn't offer anything that I
personally need that Opera doesn't already do and in a nicer way.
Nevertheless, for those who don't like Opera I can see the
benefits over using straight IE.

With best wishes,

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Re: Backup TB! vs Synchronize

2002-04-14 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hello Greg,

 If you really don't use 2 copies of TB! can you simply copy all files
 in the x:\Program Files\The Bat! path to another drive for backup
 versus synchronizing TB!?

Yes, I do that every night. Actually, I only copy the Mail directory
and I copy it to my laptop. That way, I kill two birds with the same
shot, I have a backup and my laptop ready in case I need to use it.

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Re: Winmail.dat files question

2002-04-14 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hello Peter,

 Has anyone out there got it working with The Bat!? I can't find
 anywhere to enter fentun as a helper app in The Bat! Would greatly
 appreciate any help offered.

Yes. I have installed Fentun and then, on Windows Explorer
Options/File Types, I have defined *.dat files to be Opened with
Fentun. This way when I get a winmail.dat attachment I double click on
it and Fentun comes up and opens it.

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Re: PGP and Mailing Lists

2002-04-14 Thread Michael Disabato

Saturday, April 13, 2002, 11:03:59 PM, Nick scribbled:

NA Hello Michael Disabato,

 and then have it re-encrypted to the subscriber keys before sending it
 back out?

NA Not without intervention.

OK, that's what I thought. I'm struggling through the implementation
of GnuPG to support IDEA (RFC1991 compatibility with TB!). Once
that's done, I'll use GPGRelay as a front end for the thing.

Thanks for your reply!

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Re[2]: Still two browser windows opening

2002-04-14 Thread Ken Marilyn

Hello Mandara,

Here is anotherlocation,inEnglish,forMyIE.
http://www.webattack.com/get/myie.shtml

Best Regards,

KennyB
www.runnerduck.com

 On Sun, 14 Apr 2002, at 07:41:34 +0100 Clive wrote:

CT This URL doesn't respond. Any others that do work?



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TB and dual boot

2002-04-14 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hello all,

I normally use WinNT 4.0 on my desktop but yesterday, and as a trial
before upgrading, I installed Win200 Pro in a different partition so I
can now dual boot. One of the programs I want to be able to use under
W2K is TB. I know I have to reinstall it so it is registered in W2K,
and I plan to share the same message base (Mail directory) with the
two OS.

I assume and think there should be no problem on sharing the same
message base but, anyway, I'd like to know if any of you is using (or
has tried) a similar set up.

Thanks in advance.

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Re[2]: Palm Synch

2002-04-14 Thread Rick Reumann

On Friday, April 12, 2002, 6:11:02 PM, Stephen Thomas wrote:

ST Are you looking for address book sync. or email sync.?  I'd love
ST to have an address book sync. but have not found anything that
ST will  work, short of exporting all Palm addresses to a vcard and
ST importing  into TB.  TB has a great address book that  Iwould love
ST to sync., if anyone know how.

One of the ways that worked was a bit of a pain but it did work.
It's been a while since I did it so I might be a bit off here but
I was able to export the bat address book info as comma delimited
I believe. Then I used my yahoo account's import feature to import
the comma delimited file (you have to configure the mappings of
what goes where, but it didn't take that long). Next step was to
then use intellisynch (free also) to synch yahoo's address book
with the palm. Not one of those operations you'd want to do on a
nightly basis but it did work.

ST Steve

ST At Friday, 12 April 2002, you wrote:

Friday, April 12, 2002
  Hello All,
  I read someplace that you could synch TB to a palm. Am I right about
  this or am I crazy?

  Sincerely,
  Francis X. Mendez


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Re[4]: Palm Synch

2002-04-14 Thread Rick Reumann

On Saturday, April 13, 2002, 1:41:30 AM, Roberto Machorro wrote:

RM Still no response, I did offer to make it for free, I know it
RM would certainly boost TB among PalmOS users since there isn't a decent
RM conduit (i.e. that supports folders, etc.) available. Even Eudora for
RM Palm has troubles and can only sync one folder through MAPI.

Heck, I'd pay for the feature of a nice synch with my Palm. I
just posted my ugly way I have to synch now. (Going from the bat,
to a flat file, to yahoo, then from yahoo to the palm ). Even the
above way never worked that great and got ugly when trying to
actually 'synch'. Basically all the above worked for was an
initial population of palm entries from the Bat.

Yes, keep pestering ritlabs. I remember this was a complaint about
Pegasus mail also, and I believe they were working on a contact
manager that would synch with the Palm. Maybe you could set up a
web page petition thing where people could post their desire for
such a feature?

RM I think you are right, if enough people ask maybe it will happen. I'll
RM be happy if they just give me the file format for the folder/mail boxes and
RM for the Address Book, that's all I'm asking for.


RM Roberto


RM Friday, April 12, 2002, 8:47:52 PM, you wrote:
ST Who did you contact regarding the conduit?  Maybe if enough of us ask
ST them, they'll give you the info. you need to do it?  If anyone else is
ST interested, let's get a campaign going.


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Re: TB and dual boot

2002-04-14 Thread Jernej Simoni

Hello Miguel,

14. april 2002, 14:40:48, you wrote:

MAU I assume and think there should be no problem on sharing the same
MAU message base but, anyway, I'd like to know if any of you is using (or
MAU has tried) a similar set up.

I'm using a similar setup, except that it's with Win98SE and Linux
(under Wine). No problems.

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Re: Wrapp justify

2002-04-14 Thread Luc

 Good afternoon Marck,
  
It was foretold that on 14-4-2002 @ 04:00:00 GMT+0100 (which was
5:00:00 where I live) Marck D Pearlstone wrote and spread these wise
comments on Wrapp justify:
  
snipped a bit
MDP %WRAPJUSTIFY%WRAPPED=(text to wrap in justified manner)

MDP   like

MDP %WRAPJUSTIFY%WRAPPED=%CLIPBOARD

 Ah, this explains my confusion. I thought it could be used to wrap
 the text you type in a message.  (bloody help files lol)
 
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Re: TB and dual boot

2002-04-14 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hello Jernej,

 I'm using a similar setup, except that it's with Win98SE and Linux
 (under Wine). No problems.

Thanks so much :-)

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Re: TB and dual boot

2002-04-14 Thread Greg Strong

Hello Miguel,

Sunday, April 14, 2002, 7:40:48 AM, you wrote:

MAU I assume and think there should be no problem on sharing the same
MAU message base but, anyway, I'd like to know if any of you is using
MAU (or has tried) a similar set up.

See thread with subject of Multi-Boot PC started 4/2/02. I don't use
NT based system yet, but if recall correctly about this same
discussion with regard to VA I believe there is a potential problem
with how NT based OSs recognizes additional drives /or partitions.

I am using Win98 with communication software (i.e. TB!, VA, Agent)
installed in an extended partition. In Win98 the extended partition
always boots to the D drive, so the drive in the path statement is
of no concern.

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Re: TB and dual boot

2002-04-14 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hello Greg,

 See thread with subject of Multi-Boot PC started 4/2/02.

That wasn't that long ago. I don't have a very good memory, do I? My
few and tired neurons can't keep track of all the e-mail I receive and
send, and of all mail lists and newsgroups I monitor. :-(

Thanks

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Authenticating outgoing email

2002-04-14 Thread Nathalie Marlier Seigneuret

Hello,

I noticed that on at least four occasions recently, people sent email
from other computers, using my own email address as if I was the
sender. I want to secure the email I send to as to be able to say :
No, it wasn't me and prove it.

The certificates (PGP/Mime) feature seems very complicated to setup
and heavy to manage, unless someone gives me a step by step procedure
to follow.

My question is: Would SecureBat! do the trick with its hardware key?

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Re[2]: TB and dual boot

2002-04-14 Thread Greg Strong

Hello Miguel,

Sunday, April 14, 2002, 11:38:23 AM, you wrote:

MAU I don't have a very good memory, do I? My few and tired neurons
MAU can't keep track of all the e-mail I receive and send, and of all
MAU mail lists and newsgroups I monitor. :-(

I would NOT say that.  I will say that is why you belong to this mail
list, and used VA and now TB! for TRACKING your email.  :)

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PGP going nuts

2002-04-14 Thread Daniel Maier


 Every time I try to decrypt a message there's a message box saying
 The passphrase you entered does not match any of the usable listed
 keys. even though I haven't tapped a single key.
 It sounds as if you have checked the option to automatically decrypt
 PGP encrypted messages, and somehow I suspect the 'smart matching'
 feature of TB is unable to find the Private Key to use for decryption.
 Either that or the passphrase that is stored by TB is incorrect.

Hallo Nick,

I've checked that without resolve. Auto-detect and passphrase storing
disabled, but the message boxes keep popping up.

 I would try installing Imad's new TB/PGP Plugin with PGP 6.5.8ckt Build 07,
 and make sure auto decryption is not checked. Also, double check your
 passphrase in TB. Additionally, I would make sure there is no auto nothing
 in reference to PGP... use PGPTray to begin with to make sure PGP is
 functioning properly, then slowly begin using the Plugin until you run
 into a problem.

I ran through the procedure in quite the same way you advised. Even with
everything auto and easy and remember turned off the problem persists. I
decided to check out another PGP derivate because on top of the message
box problem I suppose that PGP is responsible for my XP hibernation
problems. Though I had version 6.5.8 it is known that version 6.0.x
interfered with hibernation.

I'd very much like to use the built-in PGP feature, but with all
encyphered messages available (v 6/Win and v 5/OS2) it says Unknown
OpenPGP packet format when decrypting. Is this how it's supposed to be?

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Re: Still two browser windows opening

2002-04-14 Thread Mandara

On Sun, 14 Apr 2002, at 05:49:18  -0700 Ken wrote:

KM Here is another location, in English, for MyIE.

Thanks to all who sent alternative addresses! :)

Mandara
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Re: HTML

2002-04-14 Thread Adam


Is there a program I could find to convert this mail from HTML?







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Re: Authenticating outgoing email

2002-04-14 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hi Nathalie,

@14 April 2002, 18:48:26 +0200 (17:48 UK time) Nathalie Marlier
Seigneuret wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I noticed that on at least four occasions recently, people sent
 email from other computers, using my own email address as if I was
 the sender. I want to secure the email I send to as to be able to
 say : No, it wasn't me and prove it.

 The certificates (PGP/Mime) feature seems very complicated to setup
 and heavy to manage, unless someone gives me a step by step procedure
 to follow.

 My question is: Would SecureBat! do the trick with its hardware key?

No, it would not. SecureBat! would only secure your email client
system and protect your mail archives from prying using local
encryption techniques.

You need to look at signature support systems.

The first port of call is PGP. PGP signing is a simple, effective and
easily verifiable way of proving 1) identity and 2) that a message is
not tampered with.

Joint first is S/MIME. S/MIME provides similar authentication to that
provided by PGP. Using S/MIME can be more transparent, especially with
clients like TB, but it does involve a greater per-message overhead.

I personally prefer PGP. PGP keys are self generated and proliferated
through public access servers - a kind of peoples security.
Alternatively, S/MIME certificates are issued by certification
authorities.

PGP/MIME is something else again. Very few Windows clients support it
at all and, of those that do, fewer support it correctly. TB does not
support PGP/MIME at present.

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SB! v1.60d/iKey1000-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build 08b2
Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness

iQA/AwUBPLnD9jnkJKuSnc2gEQKNbwCgmxAQZUnyqJp63FyJPkonEtevoMcAoM+g
8vM2SBeSBmiRckqrNbfb22l3
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Re: PGP going nuts

2002-04-14 Thread Allie C Martin

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

@ 19:45:56 +0200 [ Sun, 14 Apr 2002], Daniel Maier [DM] wrote these
words of wisdom:
...
DM I'd very much like to use the built-in PGP feature, but with all
DM encyphered messages available (v 6/Win and v 5/OS2) it says
DM Unknown OpenPGP packet format when decrypting. Is this how it's
DM supposed to be?

Have you ever had any version of PGP working with a TB! plugin?

I wouldn't go the Imad plugin route if I were you since his plugin is
in development. I suggest using what's tried and proven to reasonably
work for a long time. PGP6.5.8ckt build 7 is sound and the Ritlabs
plug-in works with it in terms of carrying out basic functions. Imad's
plugin development was kindled because of a need for enhancement of
how the basic functions are carried out in terms of cosmetics and
presentation.

With regards to decrypting, do you get the same error if you attempt
decryptions using PGP Tray?

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Filter Question

2002-04-14 Thread Brien King

Ok,

Is there a way to tell if the message body is empty?  I have been getting SPAM
that just has a subject and nothing else in the body.  The Email has an HTML
attachment (Picture and Link).

  

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Re:Authenticating outgoing email

2002-04-14 Thread Nathalie Marlier Seigneuret

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Hello Marck,

Sunday, April 14, 2002, 8:01:25 PM, you wrote:

MDP I personally prefer PGP. PGP keys are self generated and proliferated
MDP through public access servers - a kind of peoples security.
MDP Alternatively, S/MIME certificates are issued by certification
MDP authorities.

Thanks. I finally chose PGP.
First the internal implementation. But I'm also downloading external
PGP 6.5.8. From what I saw on the list, it should work on XP...
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 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Translation Services since 1979

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Re: Fentun

2002-04-14 Thread Peter Ballantyne

I have installed Fentun, but every time I try to associate *.DAT files
with it they insist on associating with notepad instead. It just
refuses to accept the change. Ideas? And, if this starts a new thread
I apologise for that. I can't quuite figure how to add to an existing
thread via my email client?

Peter Ballantyne in New Zealand

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Threads (was: Re: Fentun)

2002-04-14 Thread Jernej Simoni

Hello Peter,

14. april 2002, 21:36:41, you wrote:

PB And, if this starts a new thread
PB I apologise for that. I can't quuite figure how to add to an existing
PB thread via my email client?

Just reply to the message, and it will be automatically threaded
(threading works through References and In-Reply-To headers, which are
automatically filled when you click Reply)

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Re: Fentun

2002-04-14 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Peter,

@14 April 2002, 07:36:41 +1200 (20:36 UK time) Peter Ballantyne wrote
in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I have installed Fentun, but every time I try to associate *.DAT
 files with it they insist on associating with notepad instead.

I didn't think that Fentun had a command line / DDE interface
(required for association) available. I thought it only accepted files
through drag/drop. Be that as it may, the OS isn't smart enough to
know that and you should be able to make that association, even though
it may not work.

- --
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Re: Authenticating outgoing email

2002-04-14 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Nathalie,

@14 April 2002, 21:26:37 +0200 (20:26 UK time) Nathalie Marlier
Seigneuret wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

MDP I personally prefer PGP. PGP keys are self generated and
MDP proliferated through public access servers - a kind of peoples
MDP security. Alternatively, S/MIME certificates are issued by
MDP certification authorities.

 Thanks. I finally chose PGP.
 First the internal implementation. But I'm also downloading external
 PGP 6.5.8. From what I saw on the list, it should work on XP...

1) Don't forget to publish your key somehow.

2) You'll need the TB PGP DLLs to go with that. You can download those
from the RITlabs FTP server (ftp://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat). Unzip
them into your TB program folder. If you will be using PGP ckt builds,
there is a new plug-in available, but that's only in beta. You'll have
to join the beta list here, download the TB beta release and also
download various beta bits from the ckt site.

- --
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Re: Threads (was: Re: Fentun)

2002-04-14 Thread Allie C Martin

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In a message dated, Sun, 14 Apr 2002 21:43:35 +0200, Jernej Simonèiè
[JS] wrote:
...
JS Just reply to the message, and it will be automatically threaded
JS (threading works through References and In-Reply-To headers, which
JS are automatically filled when you click Reply)

Not all e-mail clients will fill in the reference headers for replies.

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Re: Threads (was: Re: Fentun)

2002-04-14 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hello Allie,

 Not all e-mail clients will fill in the reference headers for replies.

But Peter is using TB. See the headers of his message :)

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A good killfile system for The Bat?

2002-04-14 Thread Jonathan E. Brickman

I'm looking for a good killfile system for The Bat. Optimally, I want
to be able to add just domains to a special address book or address
book group, and set up a filter to automatically delete any message
which comes in from those domains.  Anyone have something close?
Right now my Killfile filter is growing large with alternatives...

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Re: Fentun

2002-04-14 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hello Peter,

 I have installed Fentun, but every time I try to associate *.DAT files
 with it they insist on associating with notepad instead. It just
 refuses to accept the change. Ideas?

I don't know if there may be something peculiar with XP, I wouldn't
think so. If *.dat files are associated to Notepad, you may have to
first delete this association and then try associating to Fentun.

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PGP going nuts

2002-04-14 Thread Daniel Maier


DM I'd very much like to use the built-in PGP feature, but with all
DM encyphered messages available (v 6/Win and v 5/OS2) it says
DM Unknown OpenPGP packet format when decrypting. Is this how it's
DM supposed to be?
 Have you ever had any version of PGP working with a TB! plugin?

Hallo Allie,

no. After having so much trouble with a plugin, I'd like to start with
the built-in PGP feature. I've got a pair of keyrings from PGP 6.0.2
which are good. How can I use them? I tried to import them, but TB
doesn't seem to accept them (unlike PGP 6.5.8ckt Build 7, which accepts
them). By the way, am I supposed to import the keys themselves
separately? How would that go because I don't find an option to export
keys in PGP 6.5.8ckt Build 7?

 With regards to decrypting, do you get the same error if you attempt
 decryptions using PGP Tray?

No, that on runs perfectly.

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Re[2]: Fentun

2002-04-14 Thread Marek Mikus

Hello all,
Sunday, April 14, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

 I have installed Fentun, but every time I try to associate *.DAT
 files with it they insist on associating with notepad instead.

MDP I didn't think that Fentun had a command line / DDE interface
MDP (required for association) available. I thought it only accepted files
MDP through drag/drop. Be that as it may, the OS isn't smart enough to
MDP know that and you should be able to make that association, even though
MDP it may not work.

I created reg file for association DAT files with fentun. I attached
it. If You will change path to Fentun (default in reg file is C:\PROGRAM
FILES\FENTUN\FENTUN.EXE), please note - in *.REG files is needed
two backslashes instead one - C:\\PROGRAM FILES\\FENTUN\\FENTUN.EXE.

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Re[3]: Fentun

2002-04-14 Thread Marek Mikus

Hello all,
Sunday, April 14, 2002, Marek Mikus wrote:

MM I created reg file for association DAT files with fentun. I attached
MM it. If You will change path to Fentun (default in reg file is C:\PROGRAM
MM FILES\FENTUN\FENTUN.EXE), please note - in *.REG files is needed
MM two backslashes instead one - C:\\PROGRAM FILES\\FENTUN\\FENTUN.EXE.

Please note: this file was created on Windows 98 and I tested it on
Windows 95/98. I don't know, if will work on Windows 2000/NT.

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Weird characters

2002-04-14 Thread Shauna Scott

Hello All,

 I've  mentioned this before, but no one's come up with any
 suggestions, so I'll try again because this is really extremely
 annoying and seems to be getting worse.

 I frequently receive mail through various mailing lists that has,
 usually in the middle, a lot of weird characters. This makes the
 mail at best difficult to read. An example, complete with
 headers, is below. It happens with both Yahoo lists and lists
 that use Listserv software. I used to think it only happened with
 senders using Outlook/Outlook Express, but I noticed at least two
 messages today from people using other software that had the
 characters. The only thing I've found that the messages seem to
 have in common is wrapping - the message lines always fill the
 whole width of the screen before wrapping. I viewed a couple of
 the messages in list archives and they show up as a single long
 line. However, it doesn't happen with every message of this type.
 It appears that only people using TB! see these characters -
 people using other software see the message as it should be. So
 it seems to be that the problem lies with TB!. As I say, it's
 extremely annoying and some help in tracking down the problem so
 that it can be fixed would be appreciated.

 This is one of the messages I received today. It's interesting to
 note that the text intermingled with the strange characters does
 not appear in the copy of the message I viewed in the list
 archives (and appears to have no relation to the rest of the
 message in any case).

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Unfortunately most people who send HTML formatted email don't know any better. Some 
think that because it looks pretty on their system it will look pretty on 
everybody's. Others are too new to computing to have learned what is proper. And 
finally some are just too lazy to bother to learn enough about computers, email, and 
netiquette. All groups, however, should know that there are a significant number of 
people on the web, I being one of them, who will almost automatically delete HTML 
formatted email for a variety of reasons not least of which is the security hazard 
they inherently create.
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-please turn it off?

-Yesterday's digest contained a message with code that ended with hundreds
-of nbsp;s which, when converted to my Palm, turned it into a 1770 page
-document that ultimately repeated the first six messages to infinity and
-beyond and truncated the rest of the digest.

-I, for one, would appreciate it. Thanks!

-Smokey Brandon, who was happy to pick up Charlaine Harris' LIVING DEAD
-IN DALLAS last night at Auntie's, but is unhappy about the store's
-recently combining used books with new ones







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Re: PGP going nuts

2002-04-14 Thread Allie C Martin

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Hash: SHA1

In a message dated, Sun, 14 Apr 2002 23:33:55 +0200, Daniel Maier [DM]
wrote:
...
DM no. After having so much trouble with a plugin, I'd like to start
DM with the built-in PGP feature. I've got a pair of keyrings from
DM PGP 6.0.2 which are good. How can I use them? I tried to import
DM them, but TB doesn't seem to accept them (unlike PGP 6.5.8ckt
DM Build 7, which accepts them). By the way, am I supposed to import
DM the keys themselves separately? How would that go because I don't
DM find an option to export keys in PGP 6.5.8ckt Build 7?

The internal PGP version isn't compatible with PGP 6.0.2 keys
if they're DH/DSS type.

DM No, that on runs perfectly.

You're probably trying to decrypt messages encrypted with your DH/DSS
key with the internal version. This will of course lead to errors.

You need to download the PGP plugin dlls from the ritlabs servers.

ftp://ftp.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/pgpdlls.zip

Unzip the dlls to your TB! installation directory after shutting down
TB!. Restart TB! and then go to Tools/OpenPGP/Choose OpenPGP version.
Choose version 6.0.x and you should be ready to go.

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Re: Weird characters

2002-04-14 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

SS  I've  mentioned this before, but no one's come up with any
SS  suggestions, so I'll try again because this is really extremely
SS  annoying and seems to be getting worse.

SS  I frequently receive mail through various mailing lists that has,
SS  usually in the middle, a lot of weird characters. This makes the
SS  mail at best difficult to read. An example, complete with
SS  headers, is below.


if I was you I would contact someone who sent you a broken mail and
ask him to send it to you again, in the same way if possible. If the
problem repeats, there's something special with the text in the email.
If it doesn't, then it's probably a transmission problem, or a bug in
the server software of your mail provider.

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KNOWN Filter

2002-04-14 Thread Carsten Guthardt-Schulz

Hi,

Why is an email with the follwing header not moved to my INBOX-KNOWN
(Filter is active), though the email address thomaslundy@...com  is in my
address book?



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Subject: Re: ciao
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hallo Carsten,


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Re: Authenticating outgoing email

2002-04-14 Thread Joseph N.

 Nathalie Marlier Seigneuret wrote on Sunday, April 14, 2002:

 Hello,

 I noticed that on at least four occasions recently, people sent email
 from other computers, using my own email address as if I was the
 sender. I want to secure the email I send to as to be able to say :
 No, it wasn't me and prove it.

 The certificates (PGP/Mime) feature seems very complicated to setup
 and heavy to manage, unless someone gives me a step by step procedure
 to follow.

 My question is: Would SecureBat! do the trick with its hardware key?

No.  SecureBat! will only protect the email functions of your
account(s) at your computer.  It will not guard against someone's
setting up a different account or email program at your computer
(although a properly configured firewall could secure against that
risk), nor would it guard against someone else at another computer
falsely adopting your name.

You have at least two remedies against your problem, which should be
used together. One is to notify the appropriate legal authorities,
because in most Western jurisdictions of which I'm aware there are
laws against usurping someone else's identity; there may also be
private legal actions based on invasion of privacy, but that is more
uncertain. Second is to learn how to use digital signatures, whether
PGP, S/MIME, or GnuPG.  Yes, there is a day or two of learning
involved, but, if your objectives are simple, e.g., digital
signatures, then you only have a limited amount to learn.  They are
not at all difficult to manage after the initial learning.

If there are other remedies, I'll be glad to read the suggestions.

-- 
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