Re: Screen readers and TheBat
Hello Pranav, On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 14:30:31 +0530 GMT (25/09/2003, 16:00 +0700 GMT), Pranav Lal wrote: How do I disable the HTML viewer? Options / Preferences / Viewer/Editor. Ups, another dialog in which tabbing goes crisscrossing over the whole screen. Will add that to the list. But there are 4 drop-down boxes, those are the ones. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. What to not say to the nice policeman: I was going to be a cop, but I decided to finish high school instead. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Ok here's one for the pgp gooroos.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Bat! people, I'm trying to write an encrypted mail using TB 2.00.06 GnuPg v1.22 Nr2 Nullify using the builtin support for Gpg. When i try to encrypt to an unsigned key, the program tells me the program isn't sure whether the key really belongs to whom it claims to belong to, and this is write, however if you use Gpg without the plugin it lets me choose whether i want to go on encrypting anyway or just leave it be, a thing the bat!'s builtin support doesn't offer. In other words, the built-in support forces me to sign a key before i can use it. I understand the security thinking behind this but should i consider this a bug or a feature? I myself consider it a buglet which i hope will be fixed in future versions, since i want to avoid having to use gpgtray as much as possible when using TB!. TIA for any answers or help regarding this. - -- - -- /Krister mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This mail brought to you by The bat! V2.00.6, on Windows XP 5 1 build 2600 Pgp keys available here: Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-nr2 (Windows XP) iD8DBQE/c/g6ODlJeoMTOQsRAsEnAJ9CMm18dM2i1DDvOR20gjO1ngCdPwCfUuZ2 mfmS/uD5TbuscLkLXsZ5Qts= =zbH8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Screen readers and TheBat
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Thomas, In a message with mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 26 Sep 2003 10:37:19 (my local time 05:37:19), you typed: TF Also, if you [X] Add to Addressgroup, the Group Selector can only be TF reached with the mouse, and also only if you have labeled the graphic TF first. And then you have to hit tab 13 (!) times to reach the Items TF field. This is also true when making an auto-reply. Only the check box is visible and then you'll have to fiddle around with the mouse a bit to find the button for the template dialog. It's doable, but could get better. TF Message Depatcher: TF List boxes can still not be seen. Correction: the list boxes are perfectly navigable, but the check boxes for read, open, delete and fetch aren't recognized. This was trainable in Jaws by labeling the graphics for checked and unchecked. I've not examined the trainability options in Hal 5.21, (http://www.dolphinuk.co.uk) the screen reader i'm using, but i will and get back with a report on how this goes. It's interesting to see peoples different needs. It's so easy even for a blind person like myself to assume that *all* blind have almost the same needs, but that's not true. I fore one am not that interested in the html piece of things, while others apparently are. It would of course be nice to have access even to html, but i really don't think it's top priority, unless of course there's a way to add urls to IE or NS favourites, which i don't think there is. - -- - -- /Krister mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This mail brought to you by The bat! V2.00.6, on Windows XP 5 1 build 2600 Pgp keys available here: Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-nr2 (Windows XP) iD8DBQE/c/2WODlJeoMTOQsRAk6fAJwOwVCT6KHVXL/9DlPVH42HhTnY2gCffb+a G5TQ9QKQCawCtWEDlTDz14I= =zcxr -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: attachment details in the sent email printout
Hello MAU, thanks, it worked.. btw is icon (say word document icon) is possible in the print out Wednesday, September 24, 2003, 7:17:27 PM, you wrote: M Hello pradeep_minoo, can u pl. elaborate..how to do that.. using ver 2.00.6 thanks M On the main TB window menu select Message/Print Setup/Template and, for M example below %Text, include the macro %ATTACHMENTS. -- Best regards, pradeep_minoomailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Help with AddHeader, SetHeader ?
Hello Jim, Wednesday, September 24, 2003, 11:37:31 PM, you wrote: Try for example %SETHEADER(X-My-Header,BlaBla), but You must add X-My-Header field to Preferences | Message headers dialog first. JD Ahhh... now that worked! Thanks... s.. what's the difference JD between %SETHEADER and %ADDHEADER ??? X-My-Header=OValue then %SETHEADER(X-My-Header,BlaBla) X-My-Header=BlaBla but %ADDHEADER(X-My-Header,BlaBla) X-My-Header=OValueBlaBla -- Best regards, Mark mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TB! 2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: attachment details in the sent email printout
Hello pradeep_minoo, thanks, it worked. :-)) btw is icon (say word document icon) is possible in the print out I don't think it is possible. At least I don't know how. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.00.6 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: V2 Some observations
ON Wednesday, September 24, 2003, 1:19:57 PM, you wrote: 4) V2 seems slightly slower then the previous version on some actions. I regularly mark folder read with 80 msg. This is visibly slower in V2 M Don't quite understand what you mean. Go to a folder with a number of unread msg. Select Mark all read or use Ctrl-M. Notice the delay. 5) A file that is saved to the virtual folder my documents is save to the real folder AND PATH of the user on win2K. M That is not a TB issue, is the normal behaviour of My Documents in M Win2K. I forgot to mention that it was saved to a different user, and therefor didn¦t so up in the My Documents folder. I shuld explain that I installed TB! using an other User, but both have Admin rights. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Golfers who realize their potential generally cultivate the three D¦s--desire, determination and discipline; the three P¦s--persistence, patience and practice; and the three C¦s--confidence, concentration, and composure. Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
glyphs.bmp
Does anybody where there's a map to the functions of the icons in glyphs.bmp? Thanks! Steve . . . Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Why cant I copy and paste address to Bat?
I just tried copying an email and pasting it into a email I was composing in Bat It wont let me paste it! Yet I can paste it if composing an email in Agent/ Advice? Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: V2 Some observations
Hello Gerard, 4) V2 seems slightly slower then the previous version on some actions. I regularly mark folder read with 80 msg. This is visibly slower in V2 M Don't quite understand what you mean. Go to a folder with a number of unread msg. Select Mark all read or use Ctrl-M. Notice the delay. I use Ctrl+M some times and haven't notice anything. At least anything significant enough to catch my attention. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.00.6 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: V2 Some observations
ON Friday, September 26, 2003, 4:16:51 PM, you wrote: M I use Ctrl+M some times and haven't notice anything. At least anything M significant enough to catch my attention. Hi Miguel, It gets obvious if you do it with 20-30 or more. I do over a 100 sometimes and were 1.6 and lower was done when you looked at the keyboard it now takes close to a second with 100 msg¦s This is not a big problem but I hope this isn¦t the start of a slowdown in performance. The reason that TB! could handle large qty of mail was my main reason for buying it. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= YouÆre a golfaholicà if You think that some day you'll shoot your age, when a more realistic goal would be to shoot your weight! Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Why cant I copy and paste address to Bat?
E Don't know. I just did a right-click/select all/copy of E your post to the mailing list. I am now going to control/v E it into this message. I am *not* using HTML by choice. E Elaine Elaine I was trying to copy and address from a web page to the grayed out TO filed in Bat. Wouldn't let me do it. Also why is that field grayed out? I could do it in Agent however I was trying to create a one time use only email address using Mailnator see link for what Im talking abt http://www.mailinator.com/mailinator/Welcome.do Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Why cant I copy and paste address to Bat?
E John, E I pasted this in E [EMAIL PROTECTED] (suggested format) Elaine and others Im still not sure Ive expressed myself fully When you go to Mailnator it ail auto generate a one time use only address for you. Look right below where it says to check mail If you drag across that auto generated address and then copy it.. then start a new message in Bat and try and paste it into the to field. it win paste into it And again... why are these fields greyed out anyway? Just curious Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Address Book
Hello tbudl, I use the Palm desktop as my primary address book. I know, ugly compared to the TB address book, but I need them on the road. I export the Palm data to a .vcf file and then import into TB. After import, the Display Name as field is set to User defined. The result of this setting is that, for TB to find an entry when generating a new message, I must type the first name then last name to get a hit. If I change the Display Name as field to Last, first middle, then I can type the last name, comma, first name in a new message and get a hit, which is what I want to do. How can I globally change the Display Name as field to Last, first middle? Must I change each entry one at a time? Using TB 2.00.6 -- Best regards, Freddie mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMAP
Hi TBUDLers, I've not paid much attention to IMAP threads previously as I didn't have an IMAP capable account set up. But now I have an IMAP account and have been attempting to use it. Now obviously I'm an IMAP newbie and perhaps am not entirely understanding how IMAP is supposed to work, but some things just don't seem right. * 2 folders that were deleted days ago (and are no longer on the server) continue to appear in my account folder list. If I try to delete them, I am told they no longer exist. The only way to be rid of them was to delete the account altogether and readd it. This seems a cumbersome and impractical thing to have to do any time folders are deleted. Surely this isn't the way it's supposed to work? * I sometimes get access violation errors dealing with folders, particularly sub-folders. Is this a yet-to-be-addressed bug? * I seem to be unable to import messages into an IMAP folder. I would like to import locally stored messages from my POP account. I do Tools / Import / TBB and select the appropriate TBB. It says they are imported, but they apparently only display locally and have no persistance. After TB is closed and reopened, the imported messages are not there. Shouldn't imported messages write back to the server as part of synchronization? Or is this just the nature of the beast? Is there any way to do what I'm intending (aside from a redirect and losing date/time info)? -- Dave Using TB! 2.00.6 on Windows XP Pro Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: V2 Some observations
Hello Gerard, It gets obvious if you do it with 20-30 or more. Not here, sorry. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.00.6 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Why cant I copy and paste address to Bat?
Hi John, If you drag across that auto generated address and then copy it.. then start a new message in Bat and try and paste it into the to field. it win paste into it It works here. How are you copying and pasting the address, ctrl+C, ctrl+v? -- regards Clive Taylor Using TB 2.00.6 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Dave, Friday, September 26, 2003, 4:42:04 PM, you wrote: DG * I seem to be unable to import messages into an IMAP folder. I DG would like to import locally stored messages from my POP account. DG I do Tools / Import / TBB and select the appropriate TBB. It says DG they are imported, but they apparently only display locally and DG have no persistance. After TB is closed and reopened, the DG imported messages are not there. Shouldn't imported messages DG write back to the server as part of synchronization? Or is this DG just the nature of the beast? Is there any way to do what I'm DG intending (aside from a redirect and losing date/time info)? I had the same issue, and for some other reasons including this one and the fact that filters won't work in Imap, I am using pop3 for the moment. Andrew. - -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP3RjXBvTWk0UTIIuEQJ9ygCgjhZqsgfXt/pWW/WoqdcPpIClKP0An1ew +U43iPvI188/zWRPVyjf3ml5 =jHOo -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why cant I copy and paste address to Bat?
Hello John! On Friday, September 26, 2003, 10:22 AM, you wrote: J When you go to Mailnator it ail auto generate a J one time use only address for you. Look right below J where it says to check mail J If you drag across that auto generated address and then J copy it.. then start a new message in Bat and try J and paste it into the to field. it win paste J into it Try using the keys: CTRL-c (copy) and CTRL-v (paste). This often works for me when other methods won't. I've never failed to have it copy anything out of the Header fields to anywhere that I wanted to put it, including the To: field. Let me know if it works for you, please. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.06 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 The Bat! Email - Unofficial Support Board http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:IMAP
Hi Dave, Now obviously I'm an IMAP newbie and perhaps am not entirely understanding how IMAP is supposed to work, but some things just don't seem right IMAP is not well implemented in TB so far this version. I regard it as work in progress and have given up using it until the various issues, some of which you describe here, are resolved (which I'm sure they will be in due course). -- regards Clive Taylor Using TB 2.00.6 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Why cant I copy and paste address to Bat?
E I am not certain what you are saying, John. It tells you at E the website to make up your own address on the spot. Why E would you want an auto-generated address when you are going E to be using this on the fly and can make up any address at E any time anywhere (provided you remember what it is so you E can retrieve a message from the website). E Where do you think it is auto-generating an address for you? E I don't see it. I do see what appears to be a format E address so you can check to see how it works when you have E created your own address and seek to obtain email sent to E it. E Elaine http://www.mailinator.com/mailinator/Welcome.do Actually you have the option of doing both. You can make up an email on the fly say you are out some where... or if you go to the web page it auto generates one for you to use Look right below where it says to chk your email. It says: Want an autogenerated email? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check that inbox HERE That email address above is auto generated everytime you visit the web page. My question is this when I am at my desk and need a throw away email. I will use the auto generated one. BUT. I can not seem to just copy it off the web page and then paste it into Bats email fields Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Screen readers and TheBat
Hello Krister, On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:49:15 +0200 GMT (26/09/2003, 15:49 +0700 GMT), Krister Ekstrom wrote: TF Also, if you [X] Add to Addressgroup, the Group Selector can only be TF reached with the mouse, and also only if you have labeled the graphic TF first. And then you have to hit tab 13 (!) times to reach the Items TF field. This is also true when making an auto-reply. Only the check box is visible and then you'll have to fiddle around with the mouse a bit to find the button for the template dialog. It's doable, but could get better. I will just put in the bug report that tab doesn't do what it should, and they should review all of the dialogs. Will that be OK? - I think they forgot this little detail when they rewrote most of the code... TF Message Depatcher: TF List boxes can still not be seen. Correction: the list boxes are perfectly navigable, but the check boxes for read, open, delete and fetch aren't recognized. This was trainable in Jaws by labeling the graphics for checked and unchecked. Hm. I have reports from Jaws users that the Mail Despatcher is pretty unusable for them. But I understand that there is a standard which doesn't require to train Jaws; so is it a bug or not? - Jaws doesn't run on my Chinese Windows, so I cannot test it myself. I've not examined the trainability options in Hal 5.21, (http://www.dolphinuk.co.uk) the screen reader i'm using, but i will and get back with a report on how this goes. I'm looking forward to your report. I will also check out whether Hal runs on my computer (if they offer a trial version, that is). -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. MegaHertz - a VERY large car rental company. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: glyphs.bmp
Hello Steve, On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 06:40:52 -0700 GMT (26/09/2003, 20:40 +0700 GMT), Steve Mary King wrote: Does anybody where there's a map to the functions of the icons in glyphs.bmp? It's a straight-forward bmp file, no functions included. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Once you've seen a shopping center, you've seen a mall. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Screen readers and TheBat
Hello Thomas, Friday, September 26, 2003, 5:29:55 PM, you wrote: [...] trainable in Jaws by labeling the graphics for checked and unchecked. TF Hm. I have reports from Jaws users that the Mail Despatcher is pretty TF unusable for them. But I understand that there is a standard which TF doesn't require to train Jaws; so is it a bug or not? - Jaws doesn't TF run on my Chinese Windows, so I cannot test it myself. Not just Jaws but any new windows screen reader. This is called MS Active Accessability (MSAA), and is how we generally read web pages. Hope this helps, Andrew. -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
why do i get emails, that are directed towards news@ritlabs.com???????
After your news-mail I get spam like the following mail, how can it happen? copy of spam: Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Flags: Delivered-To: GMX delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 31344 invoked by uid 65534); 26 Sep 2003 16:37:38 - Received: from host-212.56.203.146.mldnet.com (EHLO argus.ritlabs.com) (212.56.203.146) by mx0.gmx.net (mx023-rz3) with SMTP; 26 Sep 2003 18:37:38 +0200 Received: from host-212.56.203.146.mldnet.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by argus.ritlabs.com (8.12.8/VU) with ESMTP id h8QFuo1D031273; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:56:54 +0300 Received: from mail21b.london21-verio.com (mail21b.london21-verio.com [213.130.33.22]) by argus.ritlabs.com (8.12.8/VU) with SMTP id h8QFnK1C031028 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:49:22 +0300 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:49:20 +0300 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Auto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Loop-Detect: 1 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Spam-Status: No, hits=4.1 required=5.0 tests=MIME_BASE64_NO_NAME MIME_HEADER_CTYPE_ONLY,MSGID_FROM_MTA_SHORT,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.60-cvs-1.11_18.06.2003_ray X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60-cvs-1.11_18.06.2003_ray (1.191-2003-06-06-exp) Subject: [News] (no subject) X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: news.argus.ritlabs.com List-Unsubscribe: http://listserv.ritlabs.com/mailman/listinfo/news, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://argus.ritlabs.com/pipermail/news List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://listserv.ritlabs.com/mailman/listinfo/news, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary076038746424884618== Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-GMX-Antivirus: -1 (not scanned, may not use virus scanner) X-GMX-Antispam: 0 (Mail was not recognized as spam) Bonjour, l'email [EMAIL PROTECTED] tant spam c'est dire recevant un nombre invraisemblable de publicit, je l'ai ferm. Si vous devez m'crire faites le dsormais [EMAIL PROTECTED] Merci de votre comprhension. Cordialement. Brigitte BOGUCKI www.cyber-avocat.com ___ News mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://listserv.ritlabs.com/mailman/listinfo/news Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: glyphs.bmp
Hi Thomas, TF Steve Mary King wrote: Does anybody where there's a map to the functions of the icons in glyphs.bmp? TF It's a straight-forward bmp file, no functions included. I think he means a description of what each icon is used for. Most are straightforward just by looking at them, but some are not. -- Best regards, Christopher Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.code-breaker.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Screen readers and TheBat
Hello Andrew, On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:46:30 +0100 GMT (27/09/2003, 00:46 +0700 GMT), Andrew Hodgson wrote: Not just Jaws but any new windows screen reader. This is called MS Active Accessability (MSAA), and is how we generally read web pages. I know this was posted before, but do you have the direct link to MSAA handy? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. My parents put us to sleep by tossing us up in the air. Of course, you have to have low ceilings for this method to work. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Temp Files
Hello TBUDL, Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed the massive amount of tempory files the bat now leaves hanging round in the tempory folder? I have over the past few days deleted thousands. -- Best regards, Michael ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Excuse me while I dance a little jig of despair. http://www.thompsonmike.co.uk/ PGP KeyID := 0xA9547E32 'To see a world in a grain of sand And heaven in a wild flower To hold infinity in the palm of your hand And eternity in an hour' Using TheBat! Version 2.00.6 Running On Windows XP (2600, Service Pack 1) Sent From OneAndOne pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Temp Files
Hello Michael, Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed the massive amount of tempory files the bat now leaves hanging round in the tempory folder? I don't know if it is just you, or not. But I can say that my TB doesn't leave a single temp file hanging around. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.00.6 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Temp Files
Hello Michael, Friday, September 26, 2003, 8:52:23 PM, you wrote: Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed the massive amount of tempory files the bat now leaves hanging round in the tempory folder? There are about 119 temp files from TB! for the last 3 days, still in my temp directory. -- Cheers, Edgar Communicating with TB! v2.00.6, Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: glyphs.bmp
Yes, that's what I mean. Some of the icons are easy to figure out, but some not. For example, I'd like the upload icon to change colors, say to red, when messages are waiting to upload. I know which icon starts the upload, but can I do the color change? A map of what each icon in glyphs.bmp stands for would really help. Steve . . . Christopher, Friday, September 26, 2003, 11:02:54 AM, you wrote:== Hi Thomas, TF Steve Mary King wrote: Does anybody where there's a map to the functions of the icons in glyphs.bmp? TF It's a straight-forward bmp file, no functions included. I think he means a description of what each icon is used for. Most are straightforward just by looking at them, but some are not. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Temp Files
At 4:30 PM on 9/26/2003, Edgar typed ... E There are about 119 temp files from TB! for the last 3 days, still in E my temp directory. Lots of files in my temp directory (thanks for the reminder to clean it out) but none of those files was a Bat file. I'm on XP (as are you) so apparently it's not an OS thing. -- Bill Blinn Technology Editor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - 9/26/2003 at 4:42 PM Technology Editor, Newsradio 610 WTVN, Columbus, Ohio Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Random thought: To start your cat collection, simply open a can of tuna. Featured speaker at PowerPoint Live - Tucson, Arizona October 12-15, 2003 - http://www.pptlive.com/ Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: glyphs.bmp
Hello Steve, Friday, September 26, 2003, 2:40:36 PM, you wrote: SMK Yes, that's what I mean. Some of the icons are easy to figure SMK out, but some not. For example, I'd like the upload icon to SMK change colors, say to red, when messages are waiting to upload. I SMK know which icon starts the upload, but can I do the color change? SMK A map of what each icon in glyphs.bmp stands for would really SMK help. moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Steve. This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting. Top posting, i.e., typing all your reply text at the top of your message and following it with all quoted text below, is not encouraged and we actually request that you not do so on this list because a) It makes it difficult to glean context from what you typed at the top of the message and b) It encourages excessive quoting. We would much prefer if you quote just that much of the message to which you're replying, so we know what it is you're referring to, and then below the quotation, type your response. If you're responding to more than one parts of the original, then quote each part separately and follow each part with your response. Now, I know that you may not personally prefer this format and that you may disagree with some of the reasoning here. We very much respect this. However, this is the format that most of the active members here prefer and all members are expected, and are being asked to use the format that will make most of the active membership here comfortable reading. You'll likely get a more responsive group when you post using a style that is comfortable for them to read and understand. Thank you. /moderator -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.00 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How to filter Worm (the Microsoft one)
Hi all, For about a week now I get tons of email with this worm that pretends coming from Microsoft and being a security update (most of you will know the worm, I think it is called Swen). In the beginning I thought my internet provider would filter it after a day or it would just stop, but it's getting more and more. There are two emails, one appearing to be from Microsoft, another one telling me that a message couldn't be deliver. Both have this 106K attachment containing the worm. How do I filter this? The message text changes a little bit each time and I can't filter for an attachment length. Can anyone please just quickly post a working filter for this. Thanx, Carsten Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: collapsing a thread
9/25/2003, 11:41 PM: Thomas said in collapsing a thread TF Has it been added to the wishlist? I've now added it, #0001757 -- | Peace, Be well | Allen | http://jarday.com | http://theprawn.com | | Running The_Bat! version 2.00.6 | with Anti-Spam Plugin BayesIt! .4em | Windows XP Service Pack 1 build 2600 -- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to filter Worm (the Microsoft one)
Friday, September 26, 2003, 2:42:16 PM, you wrote: CGS How do I filter this? The message text changes a little bit each time and I CGS can't filter for an attachment length. CGS Can anyone please just quickly post a working filter for this. I am reg-ex challenged and I wish I had that kind of a solution for you. Use these two filter files in two selective download filters and that should get 90% of them. I've been getting 1 every minute or two. Check the text first so you don't miss anything you really need before you install them. Good luck. -- Neal Laugman Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: How to filter Worm (the Microsoft one)
NL I am reg-ex challenged and I wish I had that kind of a solution for NL you. Use these two filter files in two selective download filters and NL that should get 90% of them. I've been getting 1 every minute or two. NL Check the text first so you don't miss anything you really need before NL you install them. Good luck. Well, filter.zip that containt the two text files did not show up in the previous mail. Are attachments not allowed here? May I just post the text filters in the email? -- Regards, Neal Laugman Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Can't Delete Zombie Messages
Hello Batpeople, I upgraded to V2, and find that I am having a hard time (=impossible) deleting messages. I am using POP3 since IMAP is not yet working. Messages which are filtered and downloaded are removed from the server, which is what I want. There are others that I want to download by hand then delete from the server. I have tried everything: moving to trash, pressing delete (this gives an access violation), using the dispatcher (but they are not shown in the dispatcher window), and even deleting the files MESSAGES.TBI and MESSAGES.TBB from the account/inbox directory. Yet these 59 zombie messages are still shown in inbox folder in The Bat! I've run folder maintenance to no avail. Suggestions please! _ | Edward J. Krall | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | 10838 North 110 Place | (480) 614-0423 | | Scottsdale, AZ 85259 | | |___|_| Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Temp Files
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Edgar, On Sep 26, 2003, 22:30 +0200 (4:30 PM local time), Edgar [E] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: E are about 119 temp files from TB! for the last 3 days, still in my E temp directory. Save yourself some frustration and use this freeware utility Empty Temp Folders. You can empty the many directories of garbage windows creates with a simple mouse click. http://www.danish-shareware.dk/soft/emptemp/index.html - -- Kevin Coates Dewitt, NY USA Using TB! v2.00.6 under Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP1 (see kludges for my pgp key) . -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE/dN+2RbTFvUNHmLkRAkZpAJwJb0jzGgaFH3aLP6lwYF/+9iXQiQCfafCv NUJiV5qQQMyeQWmMILINCug= =41Lx -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Selective Download inconsistencies
I am concerned that my Selected Download filters aren't working right. Well, no one else seems to be responding so I will. I think part of my problem may be that I'm using filter strings with the 'Entire Header' option checked. Many of the strings I was using were really only appropriate filters for subject lines or from. I am going to create separate files for ignore_subject, ignore_from, kill_subject, kill_from, etc.. Is this what other people are doing? -- Ken Green Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Multiple Responses re. Selective Download Filter Syntax
Joseph N. wrote: * To Ken: You've probably already fixed your situation, but the signal string I was using for selective downloads is the one I posted with my initial query. Maybe I am misreading the Help system, but I thought that Selective Download did not allow TB's 'special syntax' - so I don't understand the prefixes you are using in your list (MainSet:) How does: MainSet: microsoft MainSet: Internet MainSet: critical Differ from: microsoft Internet critical ?? It was only about 65% effective, so I have switched strategies. I am now filtering at the ISP level for all messages over a certain size. Since I only use this address for newsgroups and mailing lists, it should work fine; at least, it has been working so far today Has that method been consistent? I tried this too, and it has worked for the Swen.A messages so far. I set my threshold at 90K. But for some reason, it still allowed a 110K message through. ?? -- Ken Green Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Selective Download inconsistencies
Ken, Friday, September 26, 2003, 6:16:56 PM, you wrote: kg Well, no one else seems to be responding so I will. Did you not get the off-list email I sent you within 10 minutes of your request of me? -- Neal Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[7]: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?
Hi Günter Monday, September 22, 2003, 6:27:38 PM, you wrote: GM By negative selection :-) I see :) I don't have that many filters set up so I can't do that. But I've restricted the ticker to just one folder too so it shouldn't be too intrusive. Finding a screen position that doesn't interfere with my other apps is another matter, but I can get by. Cheers, -Vishal Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: why do i get emails, that are directed towards news@ritlabs.com???????
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, September 26, 2003, altitona wrote... After your news-mail I get spam like the following mail, how can it happen? This almost looks like somebody didn't set the list to moderators posting only... You really should speak to RitLabs, as the people on this list have little control over their lists. TBUDL is run and maintained by The Bat! users. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) He does the work of 3 men Larry Moe Curly. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBP3UZeCuD6BT4/R9zEQIzLQCgnGortaMHK/lZSokTpi0AQmIBPmQAn0cx bjkhuCyoK3UQ6LYhRxYVOfuF =GDoD -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange and very annoying: I now often get prompted for username/pwd - what can I do? (TB! 1.62)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, September 24, 2003, gd_news wrote... I'm using The Bat! 1.62, there are multiple mail accounts set up. These accounts use different providers. The PC is connected to a LAN all the time. Now, sometimes when the automatic mailbox check is done or when I press check mail for all, I get prompted with a window to confirm username and password and a checkbox named Update account's data. This shouldn't happen - the accounts have not changed in any way. When I press OK, The Bat! reports an error... (mostly: connection to host broken). When I then press get new mail for this mailaccount, it works without error - so the settings were still correct! Have you checked the error messages in the log? I see this from time to time when a connection gets killed for whatever reason, and you attempt to connect before the lock file on the server is removed. The server returns an error message about not being able to log in because of the lock file, but TB sometimes prompts for the user/pass combination again. As they are valid, by the time you click OK, the lock has been removed because they tend to have an expire time. Outlook is terrible for doing that, I noticed it a lot on networks with WinGate as a proxy server. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Yes, you're right. Unfortunately, I don't really care. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBP3ThUCuD6BT4/R9zEQInzwCghFGqsTWKEE/qs+JSD7QS44XK0uYAoJ3A DnjyZJp9PaEUGoXcwFymPmKA =wymn -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Temp Files
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, September 26, 2003, Michael Thompson wrote... Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed the massive amount of tempory files the bat now leaves hanging round in the tempory folder? Are you running a virus scanner such as Norton, or the likes? If Norton has a lock on the file (which it can do while it is scanning it), TB cannot delete it, and as such shall leave it. Remember most scanners do virus scans on opening a file, and writing a file. To do a virus scan safely, it has to get in front of the application that is trying to open it, and as such, will perform an OS level lock it until the file is finished with. Larger emails are likely to be more likely to be subject to longer waiting periods for the files to be released. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Stick em up! BANG Okay DON'T stick em' up! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBP3Ub3yuD6BT4/R9zEQJelACghhUHKFOeSq94CixCIlgDhyJmwQIAn2+y An1sgId+P+LKBsF1yHIInIr9 =zi8W -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why cant I copy and paste address to Bat?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, September 26, 2003, John wrote... E Don't know. I just did a right-click/select all/copy of your post E to the mailing list. I am now going to control/v it into this E message. I am *not* using HTML by choice. I was trying to copy and address from a web page to the grayed out TO filed in Bat. Wouldn't let me do it. Also why is that field grayed out? Interesting... I copied the autogenerated email just fine... are you sure that was all you got, and didn't get some extra data like a break character? The To field is gray, but still selectable... that's the design of the form... you are using the right side of the | in the To box, and not the left? I could do it in Agent however Maybe Agent is ignoring certain characters? What editor are you using? HTML? Plain Text? Can you paste the text into Notepad, and check to ensure you didn't pick up extra characters? - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Did you expect mere proof to sway my opinion? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBP3UXpyuD6BT4/R9zEQKGUACgpZqqftz9adkpW7Uk83AmLBJhsxwAoKJ3 CgCVi5zqvscCh4v8cGfcpBS8 =Dm7A -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
