[Texascavers] Gorman Falls at Colorado Bend State Park

[Heather Tucek via Texascavers]

Since it only happens very occasionally, we figured we hike down to Gorman
Falls yesterday morning (1/2/18) while it was snowing, and check out the
frozen state of the waterfall. I know lots of y'all have attended the TSA's
Colorado Bend State Park survey project, so you have a special spot in your
heart for Gorman Falls. No pictures of caves, but a spectacular view of
what it looks like when it freezes over.

Note, at the end of the video, the camera isn't steady anymore.. we were
too cold to stand still!

https://www.facebook.com/nicholsoutdooradventures/videos/745146655680269/


/tucek


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Re: [Texascavers] A new children's book: A Dark, Dark Cave :

[Heather Tucek via Texascavers]

Aw man! Call spoilers before you tell us the whole book!



> On Jan 12, 2017, at 12:06 PM, Mixon Bill via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> I looked at the link to that book, and it turns out that the kids were just 
> imagining a cave while playing in a "cave" they made by draping cloth over 
> furniture in their living room. Still, I guess maybe it's cave-related. 
> Jerry's e-mail quotes the publisher's blurb.-- Mixon
> 
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[Texascavers] TSA Meeting Minutes now online!

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The hassle of bureocracy is over, and the long awaited meeting minutes from
the TSA meeting we held at TCR are finally online!

Meeting Minutes Link




And while you're at it, if you aren't a member, and want to be, check out
this page:

Join TSA Link 




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Re: [Texascavers] Cave Assistance number for Bexar County

[Heather Tucek via Texascavers]

The outdated-ness of this list was addressed at the meeting at TCR. I'm talking 
with a local caver/firefighter about being the safety chair, and updating that 
list. 
I do know that John Kreidler does not want to be a contact anymore, and that DJ 
Walker is indeed still the South Central Regional Coordinator for the NCRC. 

-h

> On Oct 28, 2016, at 1:50 PM, Geary Schindel via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> Folks,
> 
> I've check the TSA web page and the Texas Caver related to the call number to 
> request Caver Assistance.
> 
> I volunteered a number of years ago to have my cell phone listed for cave 
> assistance. I checked them today and here is what I found.
> 
> The number listed on the Texas Speleological Association web page is
> 
> 210.865.1576
> 
> Number from the Texas Caver is
> 
> 210.865.2061 Texas Caver
> 
> My actual number is:
> 210.326.1576 cell
> 
> It is close to the TSA number but probably won't get any help there.
> 
> I've called both the TSA and the Texas Caver numbers to see if there was a 
> caver associated with them and there was not.
> 
> I would recommend that these numbers be changed to 210.326.1576 (unless 
> someone else wants to do this).
> 
> I would also recommend that the names associated with each number be listed 
> on the web page and Texas Caver.
> 
> It would probably be worthwhile to check the numbers for the other counties 
> to see if they are up to date and figure out who they go to.
> 
> In addition, the NCRC names and numbers appear to be out of date.
> 
> Anmar Mirsz is still the NCRC National Coordinator and not John Punches (John 
> is the training officer)
> 
> Also, the NCRC web page has DJ Walker listed as the South Central Region 
> Coordinator.
> 
> I'm not sure if the Kreidler Funeral Home is still volunteering to be part of 
> the cave rescue system.
> 
> I think it's time to update this system.
> 
> Geary
> 
> 
> 
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> Chief Technical Officer/Director - Aquifer Science
> 
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> 
> 900 E. Quincy | San Antonio, TX 78215
> tel: 210-222-2204, ext. 346
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Re: [Texascavers] REI wild caving trip in Statesman

[Heather Tucek via Texascavers]

Nichols Outdoor Adventures doesn't offer a rappelling tour, since our insurance 
doesn't cover ropes. 

Also, it was our understanding that they were doing a one time trip with the 
previous superintendent. We had no clue that they were making this a recurring 
event, and it will be interesting to see how this works out, since we use that 
cave too. 

-Heather




> On Oct 24, 2016, at 3:24 PM, Diana Tomchick via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> Wow, $145 for a guided trip into Gorman Creek Cave, complete with the wrong 
> kind of rappelling device for a caver!
> 
> Nichols Outdoor Adventure should charge more than $50 for their trip.
> 
> Diana
> 
> **
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> diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
> (214) 645-6383 (phone)
> (214) 645-6353 (fax)
> 
>> On Oct 24, 2016, at 3:08 PM, texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
>> 
>> http://www.mystatesman.com/news/lifestyles/recreation/get-a-new-perspective-on-colorado-bend-state-park-/nssxs/
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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Caver Magazine Ready (for what...?)

[Heather Tucek via Texascavers]

Wow Jerry.  Thanks for being yet another hateful caver "family member" who has 
nothing nice to say, yet can't keep their mouth shut, who never offers positive 
criticism or maybe an offer to help those who need assistance with something 
they are new at doing. Sorry that so many people worked their butts off aside 
from their normal jobs and families to get a publication out that people have 
been griping about not getting, but not helping to produce, just to make you 
focus on spelling errors and publication inconsistencies that most people don't 
know about (yet don't get help finding). 
 
Man, I'm so glad to be a part of this group. 


-sincerely, your pissed off former secretary. 



> On Oct 14, 2016, at 9:12 PM, Jerry via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> I am in awe.
> 
> Just a quick perusal of the cover says it all. I'll be waiting for Marvin to 
> return from his time machine trip to 2105. And for grins, I did find that 
> "Haule" is a village consisting of about 610 inhabitants in the municipality 
> of Ooststellingwerf in the east of Friesland in the Netherlands
> 
> I was astounded to find that I have been spelling "flow stone" incorrectly 
> all these years.  And who authored the "Forged in Fire" photo montage of some 
> unknown cave(s) somewhere in Hawaii at some unknown date. At least there were 
> photo captions identifying the people, if not the cave, unlike most of the 
> other articles.
> 
> I did enjoy the articles, and I appreciate the effort that the authors put 
> forward for the enjoyment of us all. I hope you continue to submit articles 
> in the future despite this issue.
> 
> Really, folks, I understand that you all wanted to get this issue out before 
> TCR and were probably rushed, but "Damn !"  If the polished trappings and 
> fancy layout are the reasons for the bargain basement editing, proofreading, 
> and publication delays, let's consider going back to xerox copies with corner 
> staples that are timely and actually appear to have been published by an 
> organization that gave a hoot.
> 
> Jerry Atkinson.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ellie Falgout 
> To: undisclosed-recipients:;
> Sent: Fri, Oct 14, 2016 12:14 pm
> Subject: Texas Caver Magazine Ready
> 
> TSA Members, 
> 
> The long awaited Texas Caver Magazine is printed and also available online in 
> the members area http://www.cavetexas.org/members/index.php. I am bringing 
> the printed magazines to TCR tonight and will have them at the Friday Wine 
> Tasting and from then on I will probably leave them at registration. The 
> magazines will finally be available at the TSA members meeting on Sunday, 
> October 16th at 9am. I will mail any magazines that remain after TCR.
> 
> Thanks to Jill for all your hard work on the magazine. Thanks to Linda Palit 
> and Niki Lake for helping get the magazine ready from the printer. 
> 
> Hope to see you at TCR! 
> 
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Re: [Texascavers] Rocksprings

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Sleaze-
Don't suppose you'd like to write a review about your experience at the 
Convention for the Texas Caver? ;)

Seriously. Not kidding..

-Heather Tucek
trog...@cavechat.org




> On Apr 30, 2016, at 1:54 PM, via Texascavers  
> wrote:
> 
> The Wandering Weazel is dismayed that there have been no reports on this list 
> of the fine time had by all in Rocksprings. I, for one, much enjoyed meeting 
> old friends and exploring the Edwards plateau. My only  complaint was a lack 
> of snakes at Kickapoo Cavern where I enjoyed a few days of rest and hiking. 
> The wildflowers were in full bloom everywhere. 
> 
> At present I am in the delightful town of Muzquiz, Coahuila. Who would have 
> thunk there would be enormous cypress trees in the desert? In search of 
> authenticity as always, last night I found a cantina of extraordinary 
> funktitude. In addition to the usual Sicaros and drunken cowboys, the decor 
> included various deer, cow, and horse skulls, sombreros, guns, whips, lassos, 
> rusted spurs, and a life sized Martian dressed like a vacquero and sprouting 
> an enormous erection. I doubled over in laughter then turned around to 
> discover that other giant penises were protruding from beneath the bar at 
> waist height. The bartender could wiggle them at will. That was when I headed 
> for the door. And you thought all the gay cowboys were in Dallas? Later on at 
> a different establishment I broke the heart of an antiquated lady of the 
> night who wept as I fled into the night. So far so good. The adventure 
> continues!
> 
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[Texascavers] TSA Winter meeting minutes now available online!

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Hi Everyone,

For those interested, the TSA winter business meeting minutes are now
available on the TSA webpage for your viewing pleasure.

http://www.cavetexas.org/TSA/meetingminutes.html



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[Texascavers] Winter TSA Meeting!

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We will be holding the TSA Winter Business Meeting on this coming Sunday,
January 10, 2016.

Since this weekend is also the fourth Colorado Bend State Park TSA project
weekend of the season (January 8-10), we will be setting up camp at the
CBSP Conference Center (house above the waterfall) instead of at Caver
Camp.
Will and Kris will be arriving at about 9:30pm Friday and adding the TSA
lock into the gate. If you arrive before the Project Weekend Coordinators
and do not already have access you will need to wait for someone who does
or email ahead of time to arrange something.

The combo to this BLUE TSA lock is 2-2-8-7. Always leave gate locks EXACTLY
as you found them.
You may sleep inside on a bunk bed or bring a tent and camp on the lawn.
Bunks will be first come first serve, so if you plan to get in late, make
sure you prepare accordingly.

There will be group meals. It will be lots of fun. Give the project details
a read at http://www.cavetexas.org/projects/cbsp.html.

GROUP MEAL: email Kris at kapkanga...@gmail.com to be counted in. How many
people and what days and what you can't eat.


Here is a photo of Elizabeth Copelin climbing into a brand new find.
https://db.tt/4gDXVp4b



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Re: [Texascavers] map to Paradise Canyon TCR

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> On Oct 16, 2015, at 4:24 PM, Mixon Bill via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> At the last minute, I find that the map provided by the TSA to Paradise 
> Canyon is illegible and unprintable on my system. A much superior map is at
> http://paradisecanyon.com/map/
> --Mixon
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Re: [Texascavers] Trip help?

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If she is, keep Bennett away from her. He and birthdays are a bad combo. ;)

On 31 July 2015 at 10:40, Lyndon Tiu via Texascavers 
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

 Mal's bday is same as TCR. She better be there.

 On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 10:39 AM, via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

 Mallory: Have no fear, the caving community has far reaches throughout
 the world. Have fun, and will we see you at TCR?

 --Ernie G

  Original Message 
 Subject: [Texascavers] Trip help?
 From: Mallory via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com
 Date: Thu, July 30, 2015 2:27 pm
 To: CaveTex texascavers@texascavers.com

 Hello Cavers!

 I'm excited to give y'all a quick update, and ask for help from my caving
 community again.

 After finishing up some insurance drama, and getting confident
 underground again after my accident 2 years ago, I've move to Louisiana and
 will be starting a new job in just a couple of weeks!

 As a confidence building exercise (plus it's something I really want to
 do) i'll be traveling to costa Rica this Saturday, and returning next
 Friday. This will be my first time traveling solo internationally, and
 there's a little anxiety from the parental units and boyfriend.

 I am relishing the opportunity to travel alone and spread my wings a
 little bit, after everything that's going on in my life for over two years,
 but I do want to make everyone in my life feel a little more comfortable
 with this decision. My question is, are there any members of our caving
 community living in Costa Rica at the moment? I know there are quite a few
 Texas Cavers in Mexico. Again, everything has been thoroughly planned, but
 it would be nice to know there is someone local to reach out to, in event
 of an emergency.


 Thanks everyone!

 Mallory Mayeux
 mmay...@gmail.com

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[Texascavers] TSA Spring Meeting Minutes

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The TSA Spring Meeting Minutes from the Convention are now online!

Visit cavetexas.org  The link is on the first page under Announcements.



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Re: [Texascavers] Drone flying and caves

[Heather Tucek via Texascavers]

It's prohibited in Texas State Parks as well. 

-Tucek



 On Apr 28, 2015, at 11:32 PM, Frank Binney via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 Not that it’s much of an issue in Texas, but remember drone photography is 
 prohibited in National Parks. A guy in Hawaii forgot about this rule 
 yesterday and got tasered.
 
 http://www.sfgate.com/news/us/article/Ranger-uses-stun-gun-on-man-operating-drone-over-6229716.php#photo-7886918
 
 -Frank Binney
 
 
 On Apr 28, 2015, at 3:40 PM, Aimee Beveridge via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 I would not recommend flying the drone into Punkin Cave.  Its swallow 
 nesting season.  
 
 From: Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com
 To: Cavetex texascavers@texascavers.com 
 Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 12:34 PM
 Subject: [Texascavers] Drone flying and caves
 
 I had a couple of people approach me about drones and caving this
 weekend at the TSA convention.  I did not get names from people, and
 anytime there is alcohol involved, I'm not going to remember who.
 
 If you are interested in drone flying and more specifically if you
 have a trip or project that can benefit from me assisting with my
 drone, contact me off-list.  I'll gladly assist as I can for any
 projects.
 
 Where I can see the drone helping is with ridge walking, checking out
 high leads in caves (that have enough room for the drone to maneuver)
 and also checking out leads on cliff faces.  It can potentially be
 used to check out pits before dropping into one, depending on the
 size/nature of the pit.
 
 While it does pretty good in wind, that's a factor that has to be
 taken into account, as well as obstacles.  We'll also have to keep it
 away from any bats, since it's a bit noisy and we don't want to
 disturb them.  It might be useful in scaring off other varmits to move
 them away from an entrance (snakes, etc).
 
 Charles Goldsmith
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[Texascavers] TSA Spring Convention Registration!

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Greetings Cavers!

The TSA Spring Convention Registration will be run as follows:



*Fees will be $18.00 for single, $45.00 for family and $10 child ages
12-16. Children under 12 free. *This covers both camping and the Saturday
night catered meal.
No exceptions. No comp tickets.

*Hours for registration will be: **6:30p-9:00p Friday evening and
9:00am-12:00p on Saturday morning. *
This will cover both those arriving early, and those arriving as events
start.

*If you have not registered by the time we close at noon on Saturday, you
do not get to participate in the catered bbq dinner. * Registration is
staying open with more than ample time for everyone to show up and do the
responsible thing of paying their way to the convention.

If you are not planning to arrive on site until after noon on Saturday,
please contact me off list and arrange to come see me as soon as you get
in. Unless you arrange with me ahead of time, late registration will be
unavailable. But you'd better not let me see you hanging out at the keg if
it's before you tell me you'll be there.   ;)

If there are any issues with the set up this year, you are welcome to come
discuss it with me in person, at Registration, during office hours. :)



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Re: [Texascavers] [greater_houston_grotto] Re: Chris Lafferty's Hole

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Guess who made it to the Front Page of reddit.com today? ;)

Someone even reversed it so you make it out safely. :) 



 On Mar 15, 2015, at 4:13 PM, Chris Lafferty via Texascavers 
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 That doesn't make it sound any better, Lyndon...
 
 I had nothing to do with that upload. It's from a video Bennett Lee took on a 
 Deep Trip in August 2012. The video is somewhere on YouTube. The comments are 
 hilarious, though!
 
 
 Chris
 
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 I meant to say Chris Lafferty's Tight Hole Video but email sent before I 
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Re: [Texascavers] [greater_houston_grotto] Re: Chris Lafferty's Hole

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Guess who's on the Front Page of reddit.com today? ;)



 On Mar 15, 2015, at 4:13 PM, Chris Lafferty via Texascavers 
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 That doesn't make it sound any better, Lyndon...
 
 I had nothing to do with that upload. It's from a video Bennett Lee took on a 
 Deep Trip in August 2012. The video is somewhere on YouTube. The comments are 
 hilarious, though!
 
 
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 I meant to say Chris Lafferty's Tight Hole Video but email sent before I 
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[Texascavers] Cave finances

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I have received an email from someone who runs a show cave, asking me a
question I don't know:


Is there someone in Texas with a consulting firm or university who does
operational and/or financial consulting for cave tour businesses?  Thanks.


If you or someone you know falls under that category, please contact me
off-list!

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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Caver

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I mailed them both at the same time. I even had them put right next to each 
other in the stack. They both went out on Saturday morning. 




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 heather, is there some reason william got his copy and I didn’t get mine? We 
 both renewed at the same time . . . 
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 On Jan 20, 2015, at 5:12 PM, Heather Tucek via Texascavers 
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 And mailed copies went out Saturday morning!
 
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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Caver

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And mailed copies went out Saturday morning!

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Re: [Texascavers] Alcalde Article

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Here's the editor's most recent email to me:

Dear Heather,

I have made the changes you noted, and I have added a prominent note up top
regarding the salamanders. Allow me to please apologize for the mistakes in
this article, and let me thank you for bringing them to our attention. We
have brought these inaccuracies to the reporter's attention, and he will be
getting a stern talking-to about checking his facts carefully. We take this
very seriously, and I regret that we let these errors make it through our
process.

Would you be so good as to check my changes to make sure we are fully in
the clear? http://alcalde.texasexes.org/2014/12/notes-from-the-underground/

Thank you again for reaching out to me. I hope this corrects the mistakes
and avoids any kind of complication for you professionally. If there is any
way I can be helpful to you in the future, please let me know.

Apologetically yours,




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 The Editor-in-Chief wrote back to me saying how upset he was to hear about
 thus, and that he will be fixing it first thing in the morning.


 -Tucek



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 On Jan 18, 2015, at 6:18 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

 I wouldn't agree with that at all. They may get the dumbest thing you said
 so why say dumb things. Dumb things are what we like to see on TV or read
 about. Dumb is good. I love dumb movies and dumb stories. I thrive on dumb.
 People forget everything minutes later so it doesn't matter much unless you
 are running for emperor of aome such ad for gettng it right I always got it
 right.

 On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 10:49 AM, AC via Texascavers 
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 Heather,

 Don't worry about it. The rules for dealing with the media are:

 1. They never get it right.

 2. If they quote you, they always pick the stupidest thing you say (or
 didn't say).

 3. Most people forget the article as soon as they read it.

 Allan

 Sent from my iPhone with fat thumbs

 On Jan 18, 2015, at 10:27 AM, Heather Tucek via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

 Wow. So glad I took him caving. I mean, how else could I widely spread
 how ignorant I am about caves. Barton Springs salamanders in Whirlpool
 Cave? As if! Never did I even mention endangered anything!

 That's the last time I take a reporter caving. Like I need any help
 putting black marks on my name. Sheesh!



 -Tucek





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  This article appeared in the UT Alumni magazine, Alcalde.  ... Sam

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Re: [Texascavers] Alcalde Article

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The Editor-in-Chief wrote back to me saying how upset he was to hear about 
thus, and that he will be fixing it first thing in the morning. 


-Tucek



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 I wouldn't agree with that at all. They may get the dumbest thing you said so 
 why say dumb things. Dumb things are what we like to see on TV or read about. 
 Dumb is good. I love dumb movies and dumb stories. I thrive on dumb. People 
 forget everything minutes later so it doesn't matter much unless you are 
 running for emperor of aome such ad for gettng it right I always got it right.
 
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 Heather, 
 
 Don't worry about it. The rules for dealing with the media are:
 
 1. They never get it right. 
 
 2. If they quote you, they always pick the stupidest thing you say (or 
 didn't say). 
 
 3. Most people forget the article as soon as they read it. 
 
 Allan
 
 Sent from my iPhone with fat thumbs
 
 On Jan 18, 2015, at 10:27 AM, Heather Tucek via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 Wow. So glad I took him caving. I mean, how else could I widely spread how 
 ignorant I am about caves. Barton Springs salamanders in Whirlpool Cave? As 
 if! Never did I even mention endangered anything!
 
 That's the last time I take a reporter caving. Like I need any help putting 
 black marks on my name. Sheesh!
 
 
 
 -Tucek
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Texascavers] reporters

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Mixon, he was a student, not an idiot. 



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 I don't have a lot of sympathy for the sort of reporters who will write for 
 publication about things they know nothing about, which puts them beneath 
 contempt. But there are good reporters and bad ones. A good one will record 
 interviews and at least get the quotes right. My guess is that the guy who 
 wrote that article is an amateur doing freelance work for a not particularly 
 prestigious publication. A writer for a magazine should be held to higher 
 standards than a newspaper reporter, because he doesn't have as tight 
 deadlines. And at a decent magazine (of which there are very few), the staff 
 would have checked the facts in the article. The writer is obviously an 
 idiot, but the magazine is obviously worthless. Of course, one rather expects 
 that of an alumni magazine, the sole purpose of which is to arrive 
 periodically to remind the alumni, most of whom are probably illiterate and 
 don't read it, to be generous.
 
 One of my fantasies is to somehow become newsworthy and have the opportunity 
 to tell a reporter who is asking stupid or nosey (of course) questions to 
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Re: [Texascavers] Alcalde Article

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Wow. So glad I took him caving. I mean, how else could I widely spread how 
ignorant I am about caves. Barton Springs salamanders in Whirlpool Cave? As if! 
Never did I even mention endangered anything!

That's the last time I take a reporter caving. Like I need any help putting 
black marks on my name. Sheesh!



-Tucek





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Re: [Texascavers] Alcalde Article

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Printing inaccurate information, especially something glaring like that,
that an environmental employee for the government didn't say... could be
considered libel. He needs to fact check better.



On 18 January 2015 at 10:49, AC via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com
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 Heather,

 Don't worry about it. The rules for dealing with the media are:

 1. They never get it right.

 2. If they quote you, they always pick the stupidest thing you say (or
 didn't say).

 3. Most people forget the article as soon as they read it.

 Allan

 Sent from my iPhone with fat thumbs

 On Jan 18, 2015, at 10:27 AM, Heather Tucek via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

 Wow. So glad I took him caving. I mean, how else could I widely spread how
 ignorant I am about caves. Barton Springs salamanders in Whirlpool Cave? As
 if! Never did I even mention endangered anything!

 That's the last time I take a reporter caving. Like I need any help
 putting black marks on my name. Sheesh!



 -Tucek





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Re: [Texascavers] Alcalde Article

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Dumb is different than wildly inaccurate.

On 18 January 2015 at 18:18, Charles Loving via Texascavers 
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 I wouldn't agree with that at all. They may get the dumbest thing you said
 so why say dumb things. Dumb things are what we like to see on TV or read
 about. Dumb is good. I love dumb movies and dumb stories. I thrive on dumb.
 People forget everything minutes later so it doesn't matter much unless you
 are running for emperor of aome such ad for gettng it right I always got it
 right.

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 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

 Heather,

 Don't worry about it. The rules for dealing with the media are:

 1. They never get it right.

 2. If they quote you, they always pick the stupidest thing you say (or
 didn't say).

 3. Most people forget the article as soon as they read it.

 Allan

 Sent from my iPhone with fat thumbs

 On Jan 18, 2015, at 10:27 AM, Heather Tucek via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

 Wow. So glad I took him caving. I mean, how else could I widely spread
 how ignorant I am about caves. Barton Springs salamanders in Whirlpool
 Cave? As if! Never did I even mention endangered anything!

 That's the last time I take a reporter caving. Like I need any help
 putting black marks on my name. Sheesh!



 -Tucek





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Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2015 Survey

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I like the third weekend. PC is my favourite spot. At least on the
registration side of things, we have a fantastic little hutch that we can
lock papers etc. right at the entrance, and wouldn't have to station
outside a bathroom like we did last year.
The issue that I see with moving it to the 2nd weekend (like last year), is
that the second weekend has always been the Colorado Bend State Park work
project. We keep it consistent with them, and although they are amazingly
accommodating at the park, we don't want to piss off the rangers by being a
hassle to have there...

On 7 January 2015 at 11:41, Frank Binney via Texascavers 
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  Hey Don--
 Thanks again for all the hard work you do to make TCR a success. (And
 thanks also to Allan, Andy, Gill and other past organizers).
 I love Paradise Canyon--with or without water-- even though it will be
 more difficult to land the helicopter there. 2nd choice would be Flat
 Creek, followed by last year's site. But any spot, preferably with water
 and privacy west of the Balcones Fault, with enough cavers in attendance
 will be just fine.
 Cheers,
 Frank Binney


 On 1/7/15 10:47 AM, Texas Cavers Texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

 I like Paradise Canyon.  Water would be nice, but I don't spend any time
 boating or fishing so it is not a deal killer for me. My two cents worth.

 Sheryl Rieck
 sheryl.ri...@gmail.com


 On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Don Arburn via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

 Ok, Cavers, I'm starting to think about this upcoming TCR, locations and
 dates. Paradise Canyon called me yesterday, and asked me to ask around and
 spread the word that if we have any need for a meeting site, he'd be happy
 to help. We all like PC, but they still have no water. It's not a deal
 killer. It's an option for TSA, TCMA and TCR.
 How do y'all feel about this site?

 Next is the date. There have been several traditional weekends and many
 suggestions etc. I've penciled in the weekend of October 15-18 as a target
 date.
 How do y'all feel about that?


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Re: [Texascavers] doing sinful things in caves

[Heather Tucek via Texascavers]

Some people actually have allergies to the smoke and/or asthma that can be 
agitated by it. Not a good recipe to smoke in a cave when your caving buddy 
could have serious health problems because of it. 

-Heather





 On Dec 23, 2014, at 1:20 PM, Bill Bentley via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 Mike Warton passed gas on some of the trips in Wizard's Well Cave back in 
 the early 1980's... 
 He had eaten boiled eggs and drank beer the night before... 
 Corroded the terminals on my Wheat Lamp Battery...
 
 A what memories...
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Re: [Texascavers] locklear

[Heather Tucek via Texascavers]

I'm confused Julie, David said he knew nothing about Cave X. His comment about 
the city in the original email was accurate. 
Maybe it's the poor grammar and spelling in your email, but I'm lost as to why 
you replied so harshly at him. 


-

Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 20, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Julie Jenkins via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 I gotta say this- lockear, most of the time u don't know what the hell yur 
 talking about!!
 All u posts r crap U sir know nothing clearly factual about any Austin 
 caves and I doubt what ever in may accidentally read that u post. So I don't 
 have to put up with seeing yur BS and complete crap. I've chosen to block yur 
 name from any type of contact, FB , or anything else!
 David, shut the F---k Up! And quit posting
 
 Jules 
 
 
 
 On Dec 20, 2014, at 3:09 PM, via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com 
 wrote:
 
 Cave x.is owned t regents private school. The cave passage goes directly 
 under there very nice green football field. Ive heard The school does not 
 want anyone to enter the cave in fear if finding out that all those 
 fertilizers are effecting the cave. 
 
 Galen P. Falgout 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Dec 19, 2014, at 11:12 PM, David via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 The original post about the cave in Austin mentioned something about the 
 city acquiring land. 
 
 The storm sewer lies in a highfalutin neighborhood.  It does not seem 
 practical to buy a land preserve there.
 
 The cost of ripping out the storm-sewer and doing a gov't authorized dig 
 would be a million dollars.
 
 A more worthwhile project would be something at Cave X,  which I would 
 guess is controlled by the Balcones Escarpment District, which I know 
 nothing about.
 
 David Locklear
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[Texascavers] Austin Caverns

[Heather Tucek via Texascavers]

The City of Austin - Watershed Cave Team is trying to put together a report
about Austin Caverns, and we'd like some input from cavers who've actually
been in there! Big questions are: Is the north part horizontal, how high
are the ceilings, etc.. Also are there cavers interested in an effort to
preserve the cave if lots to the entrance were acquired? Is this cave worth
messing with or is it too unstable?
But really, any information we can get from people who've actually been in
the cave, would be super helpful. If we can get the report sent in on time,
we have a good shot at getting permission to work on the cave, which means
volunteer opportunities for you, yes YOU! to come and be instrumental in
getting Austin Caverns back open!

Please contact me off-list if you have been to the cave and can lend some
insight!
trog...@cavechat.org

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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Caver issue

[Heather Tucek via Texascavers]

Mimi,

I got the box of printed copies on Thursday afternoon while I was on my way
out to TCR. I had the box with me there, and passed a few out where I
could, but the rest will be sent in the mail tomorrow after I get off of
work.

-Heather


On 10 October 2014 08:47, mark gee via Texascavers 
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:


 Believe it when I see it, Im giving up.
 
 On Thu, 10/9/14, Jim Kennedy via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com
 wrote:

  Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Texas Caver issue
  To: texascavers@texascavers.com texascavers@texascavers.com
  Date: Thursday, October 9, 2014, 9:33 PM

  That's
  only during Spring Convention.  Sorry, Fritz.

  Mobile email from my
  iPhone
  On Oct 9,
  2014, at 9:16 PM, Fritz Holt via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com
 
  wrote:

  Jim,Is there
  actually going to be an auction at TCR this year such as is
  held at the convention?Fritz holtfritz...@gmail.com
  Sent from my iPhone
  On Oct 9, 2014, at 6:26 PM, Jim Kennedy via
  Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com
  wrote:

  Not
  polite to ask him about his dental problems.

  Mobile email from my
  iPhone
  On Oct 9, 2014, at 6:14
  PM, Geary Schindel via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com
  wrote:



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  How did the cave trip go. I saw your pictures on
  facebook but we need a short trip repot.



  Also, how is the plaque coming along.



  Geary






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  The Texas Caver online
  issue is up.

  And now there is also an
  eBook  version!  However since neither I or the TSA
  webmaster own a Nook or tablet, and I haven’t gotten
  around to downloading a digital book ap, I’m depending on
  readers
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Re: [Texascavers] TCR is almost here!!!

[Heather Tucek via Texascavers]

Wait.. so if we want to be in the quiet zone, that means we have to be
closer to the nudity?

Something doesn't seem right.

On 10 September 2014 20:19, David Ochel via Texascavers 
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

 Heya,

 On 9/10/14 5:38 PM, Ellie Watson via Texascavers wrote:

  All the fun will be there...Speleolympics, Hot Tub, Big Feed,
  Swimming, Awards, carousing, fun and of course-friends.

 ...and the survey contest, of course! Better start polishing up your
 survey skills! :-)

 Cheers,
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Re: [Texascavers] TCR is almost here!!!

[Heather Tucek via Texascavers]

No Stef, I want to be quiet and in a PG rated area...

On 11 September 2014 10:06, Stefan Creaser via Texascavers 
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

  You want to be a loud nude do you, Heather?!



 -Stefan



 stefan.crea...@arm.com





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 Wait.. so if we want to be in the quiet zone, that means we have to be
 closer to the nudity?

 Something doesn't seem right.



 On 10 September 2014 20:19, David Ochel via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

 Heya,

 On 9/10/14 5:38 PM, Ellie Watson via Texascavers wrote:

  All the fun will be there...Speleolympics, Hot Tub, Big Feed,
  Swimming, Awards, carousing, fun and of course-friends.

 ...and the survey contest, of course! Better start polishing up your
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Re: [Texascavers] The Texas Caver

[Heather Tucek via Texascavers]

We can't print without people's permission. The problem is, people will put
quips on Facebook or whatever, and then when we ask to print it, they say
Oh, I'll send you a better one for the Caver, and then they never do.

If we want an editor that swims around all the forums and emails and mucks
through all the internet banality just to find that tiny little trip report
in amongst all the crap, we need to pay them a living wage. It takes a lot
of time to go through all the postings everywhere, and when you are a
volunteer, there's just no time for that.


On 30 July 2014 23:47, Katherine Arens via Texascavers 
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

  What is being suggested through some of this thread is not bad, == and
 it’s what happens for “Mexico News” in AMCS:  take what’s posted on other
 media (printed in other places), and use as short notes, with the editor
 filling them out.

  And then use spell check  . . .

  TSA and the Caver have always cycled;  not gone under.  Sometimes people
 write, and other times cave.  Pay attention and devote some time to the
 other side of the fence.  IF it went digital it could collect the now LARGE
 numbers of videos on people’s phones, ask for voice-over narratives.

  new media; new opportunities.



  On Jul 30, 2014, at 11:38 PM, Stefan Creaser via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

 Tsk tsk...

 It's HEB and WalMart, seems the oldies can't keep up with the modern ways
 too ;-)

 -Stefan
 

 Jerry.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 30, 2014, at 5:31 PM, Jill Orr via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.commailto:texascavers@texascavers.com
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

 Hi Bill,
 I don’t usually respond to this kind of email, but this was one that needs
 attention.

 Thank you for your critique on the Caver being a fairly decent effort at
 a picture magazine.  As a graphic designer and marketing communications
 professional with 20 years of experience, I am always open to at least
 listening to the opinions of others. After all, everyone has one. I should
 listen to yours...   That said, there is always room for improvement in any
 endeavor.  I certainly don’t think the caver is perfect so I'll have to
 increase my fairly decent effort to something greater.
  . . . .



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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Caver

[Heather Tucek via Texascavers]

And the TSA website has a whopping 66!


On 31 July 2014 10:48, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote:

  Thanks, Heather and Charles, for the info and for all of your hard work
 for the caving community, of which you are paid so handsomely!  J



 Oh, and since we’re talking numbers and since I’m one of the
 Administrators for the TSA Facebook page, it has 682 members (!), FWIW.





 Mark







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 *To:* Heather Tucek; Cavetex
 *Cc:* Alman, Mark @ ESG - WSS - IRP

 *Subject:* Re: [Texascavers] Texas Caver



 As a comparison, the mailing list has 481 members.  We do have a lot of
 out of state members on the mailing list.



 On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Heather Tucek via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:





 Mark, the TSA has 180 current members.





 On 31 July 2014 06:23, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote:



 My main query yesterday was not just how the TC was doing, but how is the
 TSA doing, as in membership numbers and trends.



 Organized clubs are struggling, including many grottos and the NSS. How
 does the TSA look?





 Mark








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[Texascavers] Texas Caver

[Heather Tucek via Texascavers]

As per request from a caver unnamed, I'm posting this here too. You know,
just in case I haven't already royally pissed you off yet. But you know
what? Worth it.



The Texas Caver has just been sent off to the printer. This is the May
issue of the Texas Caver. Why is it almost August and the May issue is only
finally being printed? Why, it's because no Texas Cavers actually send in
trip reports to be published! We can't make a newsletter/magazine if
there's nothing to put in it.

I know LOTS of you have gone on a number of Texas caving trips in the past
couple of months. I know LOTS of you went on plenty of AMAZING TAG trips
this month. Why is no one sending in articles? Jill spends an exorbitant
amount of her personal volunteer time making the layout, editing, adding
photos, etc. All the things needed to make the Texas Caver a great
publication. We won one award at the Publication Salon at the NSS
Convention. ONE. How many did other organizations win? You know why?
Because they actually have stuff to publish

There's an article about Texas Caving in the most recent NSS News. Why? Why
isn't that article in the Texas Caver? Just because it goes in the national
magazine doesn't mean it can't also go in the local magazine. If you're
going to put one together for NSS, go ahead and copy Jill on your email!
(I've seen this a number of times, not just this month).

Bottom line is, if you want to see your Texas Caver magazine in the mail
anymore, you need to man up, be a part of the answer instead of the
problem, and start sending in your trip reports and photos. If you don't
want to publish something because you think you can't write, have someone
copyedit it for you first. I'll be happy to go through and fix spelling and
grammatical errors, as long as you SEND SOMETHING IN!!




TL;DR
Start sending articles and photos to the Texas Caver or I will camp on your
front doorstep until you write something down. I know who you are.

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Re: [Texascavers] The Printed Word

[Heather Tucek via Texascavers]

Please send all articles to Jill Orr! She'll be thrilled!

Jill:  edi...@cavetexas.org


On 30 July 2014 07:52, Charles Loving lovingi...@gmail.com wrote:

 OK good. Where do you want the Adventures of Karst Walker?


 On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 7:36 AM, Heather Tucek via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

 Facebook claims all rights to everything posted on their site. Photos.
 Articles. Everything. We don't want to put the TC on Facebook, unless we
 want to give up all rights to everything contained in it.


 On 30 July 2014 06:48, Lyndon Tiu via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

 Personally, I'm worried about a long and slow death of the TSA, mainly
 due to ... and *social networking*.

 Maybe we can move the Texas Caver magazine to Facebook ... just saying
 ;-)


 On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 6:41 AM, via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

  Should read “NSS members”.



 It’s awfully early.  ;)





 Mark







 *From:* Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] *On
 Behalf Of *via Texascavers
 *Sent:* Wednesday, July 30, 2014 6:38 AM
 *To:* mjca...@gmail.com; texascavers@texascavers.com

 *Subject:* Re: [Texascavers] The Printed Word



 Agreed, Mimi.





 When I was the Editor, I was dismayed (and somewhat confused) by the
 fact that folks didn't realize that their article could be printed in BOTH
 publications.



 Not all TSA members are NNS members and vice versa.





 Since these are the dog days of summer and caving in the state, this
 may be a good time to talk about the state of the TC and the TSA.



 Personally, I'm worried about a long and slow death of the TSA, mainly
 due to apathy and social networking.





 Hopefully, I'm wrong.



 Y'all's thoughts?





 Mark











 -Original Message-
 From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com
 texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Mimi Jasek via
 Texascavers
 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 11:58 PM
 To: TexasCavers
 Subject: [Texascavers] The Printed Word



 How utterly sad - and totally disheartening - to finally see something
 on paper about caving in Texas this year in the NSS News, rather than in a
 Texas Caver. Something very wrong somewhere.



 Mimi Jasek



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